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500Lawdragon Q & A with:Ethan KlingsbergbY Xenia KobYlarzAs an aspiring ultra-marathon runner, ClearyGottlieb partner Ethan Klingsberg has a taste for speed.But when it comes <strong>to</strong> his M&A practice he longs for <strong>the</strong>days when people would sit down and negotiate deals in<strong>the</strong> same room, or at least <strong>the</strong> same time zone.“I’ve done a half-dozen deals with some firms andnever met a single lawyer from <strong>the</strong>se firms in person,”Klingsberg said. “I try <strong>to</strong> encourage boards <strong>to</strong> meet inperson as much as possible. But, due <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong> speed ofdeals and <strong>the</strong> ability <strong>to</strong> connect virtually, even keyboard meetings are not always in person. This trendputs a lot of pressure on counsel <strong>to</strong> communicate welland build trust.” Klingsberg, however, appears <strong>to</strong> beimpervious <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong> deal-making pressure as he managed<strong>to</strong> execute about two dozen deals in 2011 and early2012, including Google’s $12.5 billion acquisition ofmobile-device maker Mo<strong>to</strong>rola Mobility Holdings.LAWDRAGon: Last year, your firm had a role in two of<strong>the</strong> largest deals in <strong>the</strong> technology industry. Are wegoing <strong>to</strong> be seeing more such deals?ETHAn KLInGSBERG: We’re also handling SonY’s buyou<strong>to</strong>f Ericsson’s mobile handset business. We’re hoping<strong>the</strong> big tech deals will keep coming. Large techcompanies are generally cash-rich and have inves<strong>to</strong>rsand boards that are more interested in seeing thiscash used <strong>to</strong> grow <strong>the</strong> company’s prospects, asopposed <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong> dull and depressing alternative of specialdividends and share buybacks. The o<strong>the</strong>r driver is<strong>the</strong> value attributed <strong>to</strong> speed and being <strong>the</strong> first moverin this sec<strong>to</strong>r. Many of <strong>the</strong> products and operationsthat are being bought in tech could be developed inhouseover time, but it’s not necessarily worth waitingand <strong>the</strong> first entrants in a space can have a benefitthat organically developed alternatives may have troublecompeting against. Take <strong>the</strong>se fac<strong>to</strong>rs, <strong>to</strong>ge<strong>the</strong>rwith a very healthy dose of desire <strong>to</strong> be <strong>the</strong> best, andyou end up with a hot M&A market.LD: Even with <strong>the</strong> bad economy (or maybe because ofit), many companies are sitting on piles of cash. Whatimpact does this have on your practice, if any?EK: We spend a lot of time working with boards ofdirec<strong>to</strong>rs on this issue. For example, <strong>the</strong> excellent conditionof <strong>the</strong> balance sheet at our client, Family DollarS<strong>to</strong>res, was a primary reason that <strong>the</strong> hedge fund,Trian Partners, came in attacking <strong>the</strong> board andannouncing an unsolicited takeover offer. A commonmisconception is that hedge fund insurgents targe<strong>to</strong>nly underperforming or distressed companies. In fact,<strong>the</strong> boards and managements that are most frequentlyattacked by activists are those overseeing companiescharacterized by steady cash flows and healthy balancesheets. In <strong>the</strong> mid 2000s, healthy balance sheetsoften signaled likelihood for being an LBO target. Nowthis state tends <strong>to</strong> signal a need <strong>to</strong> prepare for a hedgefund insurgency.Generally, we counsel that boards should explore, andpush outside advisors and management <strong>to</strong> help <strong>the</strong>munderstand, whe<strong>the</strong>r more aggressive uses of excesscash may be appropriate and communicate <strong>the</strong>ir conclusionsand reasoning <strong>to</strong> inves<strong>to</strong>rs. This effort can domore than traditional anti-takeover mechanics <strong>to</strong> protecta company from interference by an activist whopurports <strong>to</strong> know more than <strong>the</strong> incumbent direc<strong>to</strong>rsand management about what <strong>to</strong> do with <strong>the</strong> excess cashand who, in <strong>the</strong> face of a seemingly passive board,could generate enough momentum <strong>to</strong> steer <strong>the</strong> companyin radical directions that are not prudent.LD: What do you consider is <strong>the</strong> most interesting dealyou’ve handled in your career?EK: In 1998, I spent months in South Korea working on<strong>the</strong> first foreign investment in its banking system — aseminal transaction by Goldman Sachs. The governmentwas giving us a hard time, <strong>the</strong> target, KookminBank, was giving us a hard time, and <strong>the</strong>re were lots ofcultural rules that we were expected <strong>to</strong> follow. We hada great team <strong>the</strong>re from Cleary and Goldman, lots ofcamaraderie. In <strong>the</strong> end, we broke some of <strong>the</strong> culturalrules, but that was <strong>the</strong> right thing <strong>to</strong> do <strong>to</strong> get <strong>the</strong> dealdone. There’s a time <strong>to</strong> play along and <strong>the</strong>re’s a time<strong>to</strong> disrupt in <strong>the</strong> deal-making business.LD: For an M&A lawyer, you actually have a highlydiversified practice.EK: Client relationships are a great way <strong>to</strong> becomeaware of industries, business lines and organizations.You’ve got <strong>to</strong> start with <strong>the</strong> premise that you are advisingpeople and, once you have that awareness, you canexpand in<strong>to</strong> multiple sec<strong>to</strong>rs if you have <strong>the</strong> patience<strong>to</strong> do your homework.LD: What do you do for fun?EK: Mostly, my kids and I try <strong>to</strong> figure out ways <strong>to</strong> goon adventures <strong>to</strong>ge<strong>the</strong>r. In addition, I’ve got <strong>the</strong> runningbug. I ran <strong>the</strong> NYC Marathon, NYC Half Marathonand two 10Ks (not <strong>the</strong> Exchange Act form) races in <strong>the</strong>last six months. I aspire <strong>to</strong> ultra-marathons over <strong>the</strong>next decade <strong>to</strong> affirm that life really is absurd.See <strong>the</strong> full Q&A at www.lawdragon.com/lawyer-limelights/ethan-klingsberg.L A W D R A G O N 72 I s s u e 13 Pho<strong>to</strong> by: jennifer pot<strong>the</strong>iser

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