16 RICHARD SEYMOURIf you build it, they will comeProduct designer Richard Seymour is one half <strong>of</strong> the redoubtable London design duo Seymour Powell, anda man at the top <strong>of</strong> his game. He came to Dubl<strong>in</strong> at the <strong>in</strong>vitation <strong>of</strong> <strong>IDI</strong> to talk about ‘optimistic futurism’,a phrase picked up from Steve Jobs, and to encourage product designers towards a k<strong>in</strong>d <strong>of</strong> tough love.Marion Hancock reports.If there is such a th<strong>in</strong>g as a celebrity productdesigner, Richard Seymour is one – look at thesexy portfolio, the media pr<strong>of</strong>ile, and thecharismatic man himself, a k<strong>in</strong>d <strong>of</strong> rock’n’rollhairy biker meets Orson Welles. At the momenthe’s work<strong>in</strong>g on Virg<strong>in</strong>’s ‘unspeakablyaudacious’ privateer spaceship which will hurlpeople <strong>in</strong>to space for 4 m<strong>in</strong>utes at a ticketprice <strong>of</strong> £100,000 a pop, on tra<strong>in</strong>s that will goat 400 mph (and will, quite likely, make a lot<strong>of</strong> air travel redundant), and on the world’sfirst hydrogen-fuelled motorbikes. This is thestuff boys’ dreams are made <strong>of</strong>, and SeymourPowell, the consultancy Seymour co-pilots <strong>in</strong>London with Dick Powell, has always had morethan its share <strong>of</strong> ‘deep futures’ Aust<strong>in</strong> Powersprojects.Then there’s the saucy stuff. He’s designeda new k<strong>in</strong>d <strong>of</strong> bra – the research requir<strong>in</strong>gclose contact with breasts <strong>of</strong> every volume.And sex toys for sale <strong>in</strong> high street chemists:picture the <strong>in</strong>vestigations that led to the DurexLittle Gem. And self-clean<strong>in</strong>g, user-friendlytoilets (‘if you’d seen as much simulatedultraviolet backsplash as I have…’). OK,maybe the last one’s not so glamorous, butstill. As Seymour says, ‘Don’t you wish you hadmy job?’These projects do sound like huge fun, and<strong>of</strong> course not everyone gets to hobnob withRichard Branson and Steve Jobs (the latter‘like spend<strong>in</strong>g two hours too close to avolcano’). But lately, uneasy lies the head thatwears these serious creative laurels. It’s beenbother<strong>in</strong>g Seymour that designers have a k<strong>in</strong>d<strong>of</strong> carte blanche when it comes to stack<strong>in</strong>g upproblems for the future. ‘I woke up one nightto the horrible truth that because everyth<strong>in</strong>g Idid took a long time to reach the market –even a kettle takes years – each onerepresented a little corner <strong>of</strong> the future. In thefuture, there’s nobody there to stop you do<strong>in</strong>gth<strong>in</strong>gs. So if I know what a tra<strong>in</strong> <strong>of</strong> 2013 lookslike, or a plane <strong>of</strong> 2050 – and I do – there’s aresponsibility that comes with that: am I do<strong>in</strong>gsometh<strong>in</strong>g terrible?’A case <strong>in</strong> po<strong>in</strong>t – the ‘24/7’ sweet dispenserhe designed. This did well on the market,sell<strong>in</strong>g far and wide and becom<strong>in</strong>g a commonsight on petrol forecourts. ‘Then one day I gotan email from somebody <strong>in</strong> Australia with thesubject l<strong>in</strong>e: You bastard. That got myattention. This email basically said, Iunderstand you’re the guy that designed that24/7 mach<strong>in</strong>e. I’m a backpacker and whereverI go <strong>in</strong> the outback, I f<strong>in</strong>d your fuck<strong>in</strong>gdispenser <strong>in</strong> the sand’.This gave Seymour pause, s<strong>in</strong>ce like mostdesigners he wants to ‘make th<strong>in</strong>gs better forpeople, either physically or emotionally orboth’. S<strong>in</strong>ce then he’s been th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g a lotabout the m<strong>in</strong>dset <strong>of</strong> the future-fac<strong>in</strong>g productdesigner. To make th<strong>in</strong>gs better, he says,what’s needed is to look back with honesty (‘t<strong>of</strong>ix the s<strong>in</strong>s’) and to look forward with a blend<strong>of</strong> conscious responsibility and perky<strong>in</strong>ventiveness, even when the signs aren’tauspicious. ‘I switched on the news recentlyand the head <strong>of</strong> MI5 <strong>in</strong> London was say<strong>in</strong>gthey’re look<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>to 60 different terror plots,some <strong>of</strong> which may <strong>in</strong>volve nuclear materials’,he says. ‘Now I can clutch my head and saywhat’s the po<strong>in</strong>t <strong>in</strong> gett<strong>in</strong>g out <strong>of</strong> bed, it’s allterrible...but if I wake up pissed <strong>of</strong>f andapproach my design<strong>in</strong>g table overburdenedwith negativity, then at least a bit <strong>of</strong> the futureis go<strong>in</strong>g to be shit.’Dream<strong>in</strong>g up a positive future should also<strong>in</strong>volve seek<strong>in</strong>g the mundane and replac<strong>in</strong>g itwith ‘m<strong>in</strong>or magic,’ such as the sleep light onthe Mac; the way a car’s <strong>in</strong>terior light fadesslowly not abruptly. It’s all about the designerus<strong>in</strong>g his or her own m<strong>in</strong>d and senses toexam<strong>in</strong>e what’s worked and what hasn’t, andto forge a positive way ahead – forget focusgroups. ‘I never do them’, says Seymour. ‘Theamount <strong>of</strong> crap that comes out <strong>of</strong> them, andthe money wasted on them, is unbelievable.’What he does <strong>in</strong>stead is ‘video anthropology,’video<strong>in</strong>g people and then watch<strong>in</strong>g the footagewith the sound turned <strong>of</strong>f, the better to see‘what the animal does’. When he wants towatch a physical task be<strong>in</strong>g performed, he maythrow <strong>in</strong> some diversionary questions, thebetter to see the animal <strong>in</strong> action. ‘It’s not thatpeople lie. It’s that they don’t know what they
RICHARDSEYMOUR17do’. To demonstrate he shows a clip <strong>of</strong> an olderman hopelessly fumbl<strong>in</strong>g with the stairlift he’dclaimed a moment ago was ‘brilliant’. Theanimal <strong>in</strong> us does one th<strong>in</strong>g, the m<strong>in</strong>d another.This attentive scrut<strong>in</strong>y has paid <strong>of</strong>f <strong>in</strong> many<strong>of</strong> Seymour Powell’s most successful projects.Take the Baby G watch. Ten years ago a group<strong>of</strong> Japanese executives from Casio came to seethe consultants, say<strong>in</strong>g they couldn’t sell theirwatches to women, and didn’t know why.Seymour Powell set forth with a camera tophotograph young women out and about <strong>in</strong>clubs and bars. What they found was youngwomen wear<strong>in</strong>g big, fat, male watches. Theysuggested Casio make big fat watches <strong>in</strong> nicecolours, but take the technology out <strong>of</strong> them -too geeky - and remove the Casio brand<strong>in</strong>g,s<strong>in</strong>ce brand values were at a low ebb. Theseideas naturally gave Casio the vapours, but theconsultants prevailed and the rest is history.Today, nearly a third <strong>of</strong> young Japanese peopleown at least one Baby G. Seymour still workson watches – the next ones will be sold <strong>in</strong>pairs: one for yourself, one for your beloved:stroke the face <strong>of</strong> your own watch, and theother watch, wherever it is <strong>in</strong> the world, willreact. (Expla<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g this, Seymour mimes roll<strong>in</strong>gup his sleeve and strok<strong>in</strong>g the ten watchesdown his arm – ‘Morn<strong>in</strong>g ladies’. )Unst<strong>in</strong>t<strong>in</strong>g powers <strong>of</strong> observation aga<strong>in</strong>came <strong>in</strong>to play when Seymour Powell wasasked to look at the design <strong>of</strong> toilets, a subjectSeymour tackles fearlessly. ‘When address<strong>in</strong>gthe porcela<strong>in</strong>, 82 per cent <strong>of</strong> men aim at theback <strong>of</strong> the bowl just above the water level.Why?’ - puts on wh<strong>in</strong>y child voice - ‘Because itmakes a noise if we don’t, and mummy told usnot to. And what happens when a stream <strong>of</strong>liquid hits a surface at that angle? It comesout aga<strong>in</strong>. Up to 25% <strong>of</strong> it comes out aga<strong>in</strong>.The reason toilets don’t develop is that nobodyhas that embarrass<strong>in</strong>g conversation, they justfart about at the edges’. He <strong>of</strong>fers similarexactitude about why you get ‘streaks downthe back <strong>of</strong> the bowl – oh yes, we are go<strong>in</strong>g togo there…’His observations formed the basis <strong>of</strong> aproposed new k<strong>in</strong>d <strong>of</strong> toilet, featur<strong>in</strong>g a ‘targetarea’ three times the typical size (anddifferently angled), plus a photocatalytic selfclean<strong>in</strong>gcoat<strong>in</strong>g. Yet despite its be<strong>in</strong>g cheaperto make than standard models, the clientcompany backed <strong>of</strong>f, its market<strong>in</strong>g directormysteriously alleg<strong>in</strong>g that ‘nobody will paymore for a toilet that cleans itself’. Turned outthe company saw it as such a departure fromthe norm that it didn’t want to be first <strong>in</strong>to themarket – though happy enough to followsomeone else’s lead, and ‘knock it <strong>of</strong>f for5 per cent less’: not <strong>in</strong> itself a bad bus<strong>in</strong>essmodel, but not one that f<strong>in</strong>ds much sympathyamong product designers, and certa<strong>in</strong>lynot with Seymour, who smoulders withreform<strong>in</strong>g energy.His summation <strong>of</strong> the product designer’s jobis blunt. ‘What I really do is, I look at stuff andgo, “it’s shit”. Why don’t bras fit? Why areATMs rubbish? Why do men miss when they goto the toilet - and you too, ladies, by the way?Why are arthritis pills <strong>in</strong> childpro<strong>of</strong> bottles?’These rubbishy designs have come about, hereckons, because people don’t have the fulland frank discussions they ought (‘nobodyaddresses the truth’), they put too much faith<strong>in</strong> focus groups, and they wait around forothers to take risks. People just faff about.Meanwhile he’s furious, he says, that some <strong>of</strong>the great names <strong>in</strong> design spend their timeredesign<strong>in</strong>g salt and pepper pots.The bold critiqu<strong>in</strong>g role <strong>of</strong> the productdesigner is one th<strong>in</strong>g; pilot<strong>in</strong>g a forwardth<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>gdesign to completion is another.Seymour deploys a full arsenal <strong>of</strong> techniques<strong>in</strong> edg<strong>in</strong>g his clients along the right path. He’lltake them out to the pub to tease out the realreasons for any resistance, he’ll ‘humiliatethem <strong>in</strong> public’ if necessary, and he advocates‘poison<strong>in</strong>g the waterhole’ – if a client putsfaith <strong>in</strong> the F<strong>in</strong>ancial Times, wangle apersuasive article <strong>in</strong>to that paper. ‘I’ve bulliedsome <strong>of</strong> the iron-arses <strong>of</strong> the boardroom’, heconcedes. ‘It’s all about couch<strong>in</strong>g theargument <strong>in</strong> terms they understand.’The buccaneer<strong>in</strong>g attitude may be hard fornovices to emulate, but Seymour is adamantthat where a good solution is star<strong>in</strong>g everyone<strong>in</strong> the face, then ‘I don’t give a toss whetherthe client asked for it or not, it is yourresponsibility as designers to push it through.You are the tip <strong>of</strong> the spear. You may be theonly person bright enough to make sure theydo it the right way’.This, then, is optimistic futurism – stepp<strong>in</strong>g<strong>in</strong>to the future with a positive frame <strong>of</strong> m<strong>in</strong>d,stand<strong>in</strong>g on that po<strong>in</strong>t, turn<strong>in</strong>g around andlook<strong>in</strong>g back at the stepp<strong>in</strong>g stones. As far astechnology goes, a lot is predictable, such asprocessor speed and the size <strong>of</strong> components –an upcom<strong>in</strong>g Nokia phone for <strong>in</strong>stance will<strong>in</strong>corporate elements designed us<strong>in</strong>g ‘<strong>in</strong>pr<strong>in</strong>ciple’ assumptions made by SeymourPowell n<strong>in</strong>e years ago. And the future ‘sort <strong>of</strong>forms itself’ if you work out what competitorsare do<strong>in</strong>g and how you can contribute.Seymour was sound<strong>in</strong>g a little Zen at thispo<strong>in</strong>t. But there’s no argu<strong>in</strong>g with the success<strong>of</strong> his approach. ‘If you build it they willcome’, he asserts. ‘They really will.’Marion Hancock was editor <strong>of</strong> Design magaz<strong>in</strong>e andauthor <strong>of</strong> How to Buy Design, both published by theDesign Council <strong>in</strong> Brita<strong>in</strong>. She is now a freelancewriter/editor based <strong>in</strong> Dubl<strong>in</strong>, writ<strong>in</strong>g about designand work<strong>in</strong>g with designers on brand<strong>in</strong>g projects.Susta<strong>in</strong>able Innovation through Design –An Unprecedented OpportunityBy Adam De Eyto“The problems <strong>of</strong> the world cannot besolved by sceptics or cynics whosehorizons are limited by the obviousrealities. We need people who candream <strong>of</strong> th<strong>in</strong>gs that never were”John F. KennedyDesign has always attempted to merge thepracticalities <strong>of</strong> eng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g technology andbus<strong>in</strong>ess with the subtle elements <strong>of</strong><strong>in</strong>terface, social concerns and aestheticdesire. This is currently achievable <strong>in</strong> mostproducts, but without susta<strong>in</strong>able th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>gand practice at its core, neither design noreng<strong>in</strong>eer<strong>in</strong>g nor technology have the abilityto do much more than cont<strong>in</strong>ue to add tothe sociological and environmental difficulties<strong>of</strong> the 21st century. The current and nextgeneration <strong>of</strong> designers and bus<strong>in</strong>ess decisionmakers need to develop a range <strong>of</strong> skills tohelp them deal with the broad and variedissues around susta<strong>in</strong>able development,materials and energy usage, environmentalconcerns and social responsibility. They musttake on the mantle <strong>of</strong> decid<strong>in</strong>g what keydecisions to make regard<strong>in</strong>g the susta<strong>in</strong>ablemanufacture and design <strong>of</strong> consumer productsthat the world cont<strong>in</strong>ues to use.The SME (Small & Medium Enterprise)sector makes up the bulk <strong>of</strong> <strong>in</strong>dustry with<strong>in</strong>the EU vary<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> some countries from80-95% <strong>of</strong> the total numbers <strong>of</strong> companies.These <strong>in</strong>dustries by their nature f<strong>in</strong>d itdifficult to dedicate expertise solely tosusta<strong>in</strong>able development issues and sodesigners <strong>in</strong> their capacity as consultants havea unique opportunity to <strong>in</strong>fluence and changethe th<strong>in</strong>k<strong>in</strong>g at an SME level and to capitalizeon this expertieze. At a mult<strong>in</strong>ational level it isapparent that many <strong>of</strong> the big global and localbrands are look<strong>in</strong>g at susta<strong>in</strong>ability as both arisk and as a bus<strong>in</strong>ess opportunity today and<strong>in</strong>to the future.In terms <strong>of</strong> local brands, <strong>Ireland</strong> is <strong>in</strong> aunique position as we have a strong economythat is look<strong>in</strong>g to <strong>in</strong>novation as a tool forcompetitive advantage to allow us to cont<strong>in</strong>ueour recent economic success. However, we area small economy <strong>in</strong> the global sense andtherefore we should also have the abilityto change our design and bus<strong>in</strong>ess practicesrapidly.It would appear from recent research <strong>in</strong> thefield <strong>of</strong> susta<strong>in</strong>able design that there is anunprecedented appetite and desire fromconsumers, manufacturers and legislators,both locally and globally, for susta<strong>in</strong>ablesystems and products that at very leastconsider environmental impact. At a deeperlevel there are signs that “Green Wash<strong>in</strong>g” isnot sufficient <strong>in</strong> terms <strong>of</strong> its effectiveness orits ability to change consumer habbits.<strong>Designers</strong> need to consider vary<strong>in</strong>g theirstrategies to <strong>in</strong>clude Product Life CycleAnalysis, Design for Disposability (not justobsolescence), Upgradeability / Servic<strong>in</strong>g,Extended Product Life, Design for End <strong>of</strong> Life andDesign for Local Manufacture and Distribution.Cont<strong>in</strong>ued overleaf >