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August 1st, 2012 and November 20th, 2012, you were of the belief that<br />

there’s nothing really else for men to ask for by the way of rights?<br />

A. Well, here’s the thing. Men are constrained in a lot of ways, but they’re<br />

not constrained by feminism, they’re constrained by<br />

patriarchy. And the problem with the men’s rights movement is that<br />

it designates feminism as the reason that men are suffering. When really<br />

the problem is patriarchy. So, yeah, I do think men’s rights is kind of a<br />

crock. 81<br />

89. Regarding how Ms. Guthrie perceived Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong>’s political views, the following<br />

exchange occurred:<br />

Q. My question, Ms. Guthrie, was that when Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong> makes what may<br />

appear to some people valid social criticism, you took his criticism each<br />

and every time to be a crock, during the relative period of, agree?<br />

A. Absolutely.<br />

Q. Right. Nothing Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong> said had any value to you, agree?<br />

A. Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong>’s political views are ones that I feel are spurious.<br />

A. Yes.<br />

Q. Right. Because primarily it doesn’t correspond at all with what you<br />

believe?<br />

A. Or with reality.<br />

Q. With reality, right. Exactly. From your perspective, Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong> wasn’t<br />

operating in reality because he didn’t adopt (a), the public shaming of<br />

Bendilin Spurr, right?<br />

A. Sorry, what are you ... what are you asking exactly?<br />

Q. Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong>’s opposition to your public shaming of Bendilin Spurr<br />

was devoid of any sort of meaningful social content?<br />

A. I felt that it was invalid, yeah. 82<br />

90. It is submitted that Ms. Guthrie’s testimony (which is confirmed by many of the<br />

tweets in evidence) establishes that, generally, Ms. Guthrie holds a bold, nonnuanced<br />

position regarding men’s rights: there are no rights left for men to fight<br />

for. Of course, Ms. Guthrie is entitled to her deeply held belief that Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong>’s<br />

political views are spurious, but it is submitted that she should also appreciate the<br />

distinction between valid political commentary and threatening, harassing<br />

conduct. As will be discussed, infra, a politician (Ms. Guthrie) who transmits her<br />

political opinions to the world on Twitter cannot reasonably be fearful when<br />

another politically-engaged Twitter user (Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong>) comments on her politics on<br />

the same social media platform.<br />

91. In any event, it is submitted that Mr. <strong>Elliott</strong>’s August 3, 2012 tweets referencing<br />

the Toronto Star newspaper article were certainly valid political commentary and<br />

81 Stephanie Guthrie: July 23, 2014, p. 67, line 26 to p. 69, line <strong>15</strong>. <br />

82 Stephanie Guthrie: July 23, 2014, p. 68, line 28 to p. 69, line 25. <br />

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