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Monday, 27 February 2017 Senate Page 35<br />

Mr Stefanic: There is no finalised conservation management plan or design principles. There was a project to<br />

complete those documents. The first draft of those arrived on my desk shortly after I commenced with DPS in<br />

December 2015. As part of a normal process which I instituted with the assistance of Dr Heriot, as a regular<br />

practice we consult with the moral rights holders for advice. The feedback we received on those draft documents<br />

was quite disconcerting. It would appear that in developing the brief my department had not consulted with Mr<br />

Giurgola or the moral rights holders, and consequently the documents that were prepared had some significant<br />

factual inaccuracies in them and required a substantial amount of work to repair. I wrote to the consultants<br />

seeking their advice about making changes to the documents. One of the consultants obliged and made relevant<br />

changes to the document. The consultants to the conservation management plan disagreed with a lot of the<br />

feedback and refused to make those changes. I felt that we were at an impasse and, given the resources that would<br />

be required to complete those documents, by mutual agreement I decided to terminate the contracts for both the<br />

CMP and the design principles.<br />

In its place, in July last year I engaged Ms Pamille Berg, who was the original author of the central reference<br />

document which was discontinued some years ago. I re-engaged her for the completion of that document, which<br />

was to be the single source of authority on the design intent of Parliament House. That project has now started. As<br />

we complete various chapters we intend to prepare what you might call a management plan. This will eventually<br />

become the management plan for the parliament. I am sorry, that was a really long answer to your question, but it<br />

was important for you to understand the context.<br />

Senator LUDLAM: Is that the document that will end up being tabled once it has been completed?<br />

Mr Stefanic: The current version of the central reference document is on the intranet. As the document is<br />

updated, the intranet will be updated similarly.<br />

Senator LUDLAM: That is available to staff and MPs, so it is not a secret—<br />

Mr Stefanic: No, anyone with an APH email address should be able to access it.<br />

Senator LUDLAM: When I first came to work here, we did not have guys with automatic weapons out the<br />

front of the building, we did not have the fences on the rooftop and the ministerial wing was not fortified to the<br />

extent that it is now. There were discussions for a while about a moat around the building. The security around<br />

this building only ever appears to go in one direction. Perhaps that is a reflection of the changing international<br />

security environment, but it appears that security is trumping the original design principles of this building again<br />

and again—not all at once, but incrementally. Where do we draw the line? Are we going to end up in a building<br />

surrounded by razor wire?<br />

Mr Stefanic: You quite rightly pointed out that the original brief for the construction of Parliament House was<br />

developed in the late 1970s. Those times were certainly different from now. Changes have been made<br />

progressively over time, as you have observed. Without going into detail, the changes that are proposed are<br />

intended to be scalable. It is my hope—I obviously cannot speak for the long-distant future—that we would not<br />

have to be creating more invasive measures in future. What we are putting in place now should serve us even if<br />

there were an escalation in the threat level.<br />

Senator BERNARDI: Ms Croke mentioned a merit selection process in a previous answer, and it tweaked my<br />

memory, so I went through my folder. There was a question about the recruitment and merit selection policy of<br />

2016. What were the substantive changes from the previous policy?<br />

Ms Croke: I will need to take that on notice. I have not reviewed the previous policy for some time.<br />

Senator BERNARDI: I will be more specific. In 2011-12, this committee had an inquiry into DPS—they<br />

seem to be rather regular, as you are probably aware. There were certain recommendations made about improving<br />

the merit selection process. These included, in regard to recruitment, that conflicts of interest had to be declared<br />

and managed externally to the recruitment panel and that each panel had to include an independent member—<br />

someone from outside of DPS. Are those two policies still in place for the 2016 recruitment and merit selection<br />

policy?<br />

Ms Croke: The conflict of interest arrangement is pretty much the same, so panel members are required to fill<br />

out a conflict of interest. That is required to go to the recruitment section before the interviews take place and<br />

people are required to declare any perceived or known conflict of interest. In terms of panel members, we have<br />

relaxed that a little. We can now have panel members within the department, but we generally require, or we do<br />

require, one to be outside of the division where the vacancy is.<br />

Senator BERNARDI: The information that I have—I will just get attachment B up here—in announcing this<br />

says, 'The updated policy aims to provide clearer guidance for panels and delegates conducting recruitment in<br />

DPS, including in relation to options to consider before filling a vacancy in DPS.' This one is an important one<br />

FINANCE AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION LEGISLATION COMMITTEE

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