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Credit Management June 2018

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INTERVIEW<br />

AUTHOR – SEAN FEAST<br />

attracted by the international challenge<br />

and bringing the business together.”<br />

It was a similar intrigue that ultimately<br />

led to his joining Hoist Finance: “I had<br />

met Jorgen (the previous CEO) on several<br />

occasions and it was clear that we shared<br />

similar thoughts on the importance of<br />

culture, values, ethics, compliance and<br />

regulation. He was very visionary and entrepreneurial.<br />

My challenge now is continuing<br />

to grow the business and ensure<br />

we have the processes and structure to accommodate<br />

future growth without losing<br />

momentum. Growth is our number one<br />

ambition, so we need to focus on operational<br />

excellence and ensure our strategies<br />

are aligned throughout the business.”<br />

Klaus-Anders has been quick to put<br />

his personal stamp on the business,<br />

explaining his vision to the team across<br />

Europe in a series of ‘town hall’ meetings<br />

and canteen lunches. His views on credit<br />

are refreshing: “What we do is important,”<br />

he explains. “Without credit, growth stops<br />

and transactions don’t take place. If credit<br />

defaults and creditors are not paid, then<br />

trust in the system breaks down, so while<br />

our clients are important, the relationship<br />

with our customers is perhaps even more<br />

so.”<br />

PAN-EUROPEAN COMPARISONS<br />

Being pan-European, Klaus-Anders is able<br />

to compare and contrast the experiences<br />

of different consumer types and their<br />

attitudes towards credit: “Whether you<br />

are talking to a consumer in Duisburg<br />

or Milton Keynes, most people want<br />

to repay their debts and honour their<br />

commitments. Our role is to help them<br />

and motivate them to achieve that and<br />

return to financial health.”<br />

In terms of how he intends to deliver<br />

on his vision, the new CEO tells me of a<br />

story recently published in the Guardian<br />

newspaper about the success of the<br />

Norwegian Alpine Skiing team and its<br />

‘no jerks’ policy: “One reason they are<br />

so successful is that although it is an<br />

individual sport, they help each other, and<br />

try and learn from each other, working<br />

as a team. They won’t tolerate jerks, and<br />

that’s why they win!”<br />

Klaus-Anders is keen to see the same<br />

concept of ‘sharing’ knowledge and<br />

experience throughout the group as a<br />

key ingredient to success. A good idea in<br />

Germany, he believes, will be a good idea<br />

in the UK or Spain. “The challenge is in<br />

knowing what we know,” he explains, “and<br />

then documenting it so that everyone can<br />

benefit.”<br />

His views on the pan-European market<br />

for debt sale and purchase are especially<br />

interesting. While the UK is a mature<br />

market, he sees this as an advantage: “The<br />

UK is mature, professional, sophisticated<br />

and highly regulated, and I expect the<br />

other markets to follow which will be<br />

a good thing,” he explains. “I welcome<br />

regulation as a friend; it raises the bar and<br />

means that the thresholds for entering the<br />

market are higher.<br />

“I like mature markets,” he continues.<br />

“They are rational and competitive, and<br />

the risk/reward is positive. We are also<br />

looking at new and less mature markets<br />

like Italy (Intrum recently completed a<br />

large deal in Italy), Spain and Greece.<br />

In Spain, the unemployment numbers<br />

are coming down, but at 16 percent,<br />

Spain is still a laggard. At the peak of<br />

the crisis, 40 percent of those under 30<br />

were unemployed. Although things are<br />

improving, the crisis is not resolved. In<br />

Greece, too, they are enjoying a recovery<br />

and we are early to the market through a<br />

partnership and now our own platform,<br />

so that too is exciting.”<br />

In terms of portfolio types, Klaus-<br />

Anders quashes previous discussions that<br />

may have been aired about diversifying<br />

into different markets. “Our core strength<br />

is the banks and being a bank ourselves<br />

we have a better understanding of how<br />

the banks’ agendas can move, and what<br />

we need to do to add value. A specialist<br />

will beat a generalist every time; focus is<br />

good. Focusing on a few markets and one<br />

customer group is our mission – to have<br />

wider products and deeper penetration.”<br />

ASSET CLASSES<br />

While Klaus-Anders rules out acquiring<br />

non-banking portfolios, he does not rule<br />

out extending the asset-classes of interest.<br />

Whereas traditionally Hoist Finance<br />

has focused on non-performing loans,<br />

it recently acquired its first portfolio of<br />

commercial mortgage loans and is looking<br />

at what he describes as ‘adjacent’ asset<br />

classes such as SMEs, secured loans and<br />

other paying/performing assets. Servicing<br />

also remains key: “We like our business<br />

model,” he laughs, “and have access to<br />

very efficient funding. It is good to be<br />

regulated to the same level as the banks<br />

and investors are happy with our healthy<br />

balance sheet.”<br />

The new CEO is perhaps conscious that<br />

previous roles have not lasted as long as<br />

he originally envisaged. It is with some<br />

hesitation, therefore, that I ask him where<br />

he sees the business in three years’ time<br />

and what success will look like: “Success<br />

will be when we are one of the big five and<br />

have a reputation as a reliable, innovative<br />

partner with a culture, values and beliefs<br />

that stand out. Success will also come by<br />

being a leader in the digital space, not just<br />

in how we interact with our customers,<br />

but also in how we use data.<br />

“All of us talk about the volume of data<br />

we hold, but actually what is important is<br />

using that data to gain knowledge, from<br />

knowledge we gain insight, and from<br />

insight we deliver action.”<br />

Given his naval background, it is<br />

perhaps unsurprising that he owns a boat<br />

and a second home on the coast which he<br />

shares with his spouse Maria – when they<br />

are together: “She is the CEO of DEA AG,<br />

an oil and gas major based in Hamburg,<br />

so we FaceTime during the week and see<br />

each other at weekends,” he says.<br />

As well as four grown-up children<br />

between them, they also have joint<br />

custody of a 14-year old Norwegian Forest<br />

Cat called Nemi. “Everybody asks about<br />

the cat,” he laughs. “It is very much part<br />

of the family.”<br />

The Recognised Standard / www.cicm.com / <strong>June</strong> <strong>2018</strong> / PAGE 15

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