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08 <strong>Summer</strong> <strong>2018</strong> COVER STORY<br />
Q: To that point, as a media member, what’s<br />
your take on the current landscape where<br />
brands and media are using metrics such as<br />
views, likes, and clicks to measure success?<br />
JF: We are in this crazy moment where we are<br />
judging ourselves by the vast reach we can<br />
have, but these numbers defy reality. When you<br />
put a video on Facebook and it gets 30 million<br />
views—show me a person who will really sit down<br />
and honestly say that 30 million people watched<br />
it. <strong>The</strong>y didn’t. One second played while they<br />
Every story has an<br />
audience and the trick<br />
is making the story<br />
reach that audience.<br />
scrolled down their Facebook feed, and everybody<br />
knows it. Let’s acknowledge that and move on<br />
from there. When I think of the world of marketing,<br />
I think of the phrase useful fiction. Everybody in<br />
marketing has agreed on the same useful fiction—<br />
doing these things in these ways and judging by<br />
these numbers what is an accomplishment. And I<br />
guess it works because at every stage of that chain,<br />
everyone benefits from this useful fiction. Everyone<br />
along the line gets paid—the production crew,<br />
the creator, and the marketers. So, quite possibly<br />
the only people getting ripped off are the brands<br />
who paid for it in the first place. Even the people<br />
inside the brand know it’s useful fiction, but they<br />
are tasked to get the numbers they can then show<br />
their boss. Someone is being victimized, but I’m<br />
not sure who it is!<br />
Q: How do you feel about advertorials and<br />
sponsored content?<br />
JF: We do it, but it’s important to keep in mind<br />
that the most important thing to any media<br />
organization—or brand that wants to act like a<br />
media organization—is the trust of the readers. You<br />
need to develop that trust and then respect that<br />
trust and not violate it. If we run branded content, it<br />
needs to be well marked, and the audience needs to<br />
be made aware of it. If someone feels like they are<br />
being tricked, you will almost never win them back.<br />
Q: How do you create buzz around articles?<br />
JF: To be honest, we could be better at it. We<br />
are good at producing, but we spend less time<br />
promoting. I was on a panel years ago with<br />
someone who was then at BuzzFeed, and this<br />
person said every story has an audience and the<br />
trick is making the story reach that audience.<br />
So when we produce a story, I will spend time<br />
reaching out to people who seem influential<br />
inside the audience that I think the story is for. I<br />
will also drop them a line telling them that I think<br />
they will really like the story, but I am always upfront<br />
in acknowledging in my message that what<br />
I’m doing is promoting our work and hoping they<br />
will share it. I also find groups on Facebook, then<br />
track down the moderator and share the story in<br />
hopes that he or she shares it with the group.<br />
Q: Do you have plans to use technologies<br />
such as augmented reality or virtual reality in<br />
the future?<br />
JF: I have yet to see AR or VR that has generally<br />
excited me. I think what we have seen thus far<br />
are solutions in search of problems. For example,<br />
I have experienced live sports through VR,<br />
but it didn’t solve problems—it created them.<br />
What solves a problem is the two-dimensional<br />
experience of my TV. If I am far away from the<br />
game, sitting in the stands, the TV experience<br />
moves me closer to it. VR plops me into one fixed<br />
location in the stadium, and it seems like I’m really<br />
there, except I’m not, so that’s not very exciting.<br />
Plus, I don’t have the good visual experience. So,<br />
will these things be improved upon? I’m sure. Will<br />
they find their place? I’m sure. But I don’t know<br />
what it will be yet.<br />
Q: What other new technologies excite you<br />
as they relate to your work?<br />
JF: It’s not new, but I’m really excited about the<br />
continued growth of podcasts. That space will only<br />
get better and better, particularly as we continue<br />
to have devices that speak to us and as audio and<br />
voice continue to evolve as important mediums.<br />
I’m excited to get past this wave of people starting<br />
podcasts and interviewing everyone they can. <strong>The</strong>n<br />
we will get to the place where people are getting<br />
really inventive with audio storytelling. Finding<br />
a better way to search and find podcasts will<br />
correspond with a culling of podcasting.<br />
Q: Do you know anyone who is doing a<br />
branded podcast exceptionally well?<br />
JF: A great example of branded content done<br />
right is a podcast called Twenty Thousand<br />
Hertz. <strong>The</strong> host and executive producer, Dallas<br />
Taylor, tells the stories behind the world’s most<br />
STRAIGHT<br />
TALK<br />
from Jason<br />
Jason Feifer offers candid<br />
insight into what makes<br />
a good story and what<br />
you can learn by looking<br />
at media outlets such<br />
as Entrepreneur.<br />
Find Jason on Twitter and<br />
Instagram: @heyfeifer<br />
Image Credit: Nigel Parry