into gold as an actress - and I hated it. It would be great to combine good stuff with a big budget, but where in the world can you find it? India maybe? Gloria: Let’s go to Bollywood! That’s also a part of the problem, it’s your beginning as a director. It was your debut and you simply need to earn your acclaim. Did you like the investigating part of it? Ben: The reason I thought about porn in an investigative way was down to a book called “Porn in Germany - A journey through an unknown country“ by Philip Siegel. Frauke (the Creative Producer) and I also visited a lecture about him and everything we learned was so interesting. I then found a lot of documentaries about it and read a lot of stuff, we visited the “Venus“ in Berlin and went to the Porn Film Festival. Gloria: I heard it’s pretty good? Ben: It is. Very interesting and cool people. And there we met Sadie Lune who also plays in our movie. Sadie is a dominatrix, sex worker and a porn actress. She attended us on two very exhausting days of the shoot. It got difficult with one of the supernumeraries, didn’t it? Gloria: Sadie protected me. It was important to have her, because porn’s not porn. I think mainstream porn is criticisable, but Sadie’s different. Her work is feministic art, that’s not inhuman. Ben: We were asked a lot about our attitude to porn. You need one if you’re shooting a movie about it, but I really didn’t understand why everyone asked about it! I always thought that anyone who wants to do porn should do porn and who doesn’t want to shouldn’t. And there are people who are forced to do it and that’s prostitution, it’s not okay. But on the other hand there are a lot of people forced to do other jobs they don’t like. My conclusion is if someone wants to do porn he or she should do porn and if not not, it’s like every job. I guess a world without porn wouldn’t be good Ben: Yes, but the porn is just the background for our story, in the end it’s still just a story about a girl searching her father. She finds out that she was fathered on a porn shooting and that her mother lied to her for 17 years. It’s more about her roots, about Lucy questioning, “Will I become like my parents? Am I like my parents? Am I like this because it was put into my cradle? Am I kind of dirty now?” And on the other hand there’s Udo, the old ex porn star, who completely lost his identity. They meet and that’s exciting, well, it wouldn’t be that interesting if the mother would’ve been a baker and Lucy needs to search numerous bakeries! Gloria: The porn story makes it higher stakes. Ben: It’s catchy for the people because it’s associated with anxiety for them. Yes, I guess in the end it doesn’t matter if she’s a porn actress. Maybe it would be worse if she’s just promiscuous Gloria: Yeah, that’s how Lucy sees it. She’s not judging about her mother that she did porn, except the day she’s at the gang bang shot and gets traumatised, she’s angry that her mother lied about her origin. Everyone wants to know where they come from. It’s a human need. Was it easy for you to do the gang bang shoot? Gloria: No, it was pretty hard for me. Ben called me if everything’s fine and I didn’t sleep that night. It was a moment where I was completely congruent with Lucy. There wasn’t any real sex or penetration, but the face with the smeary mascara and the sperm everywhere… it’s kind of a symbol that we know from porn that despises women! I felt so sick and hyperventilated. I will never forget this image. Ben: We have a lot of different porn and sex scenes in this movies, but this one was extreme. Gloria: It’s been the only one that shocked me. All the others were like “Hihi! We’re doing porn!“, but I really wanted to escape this one! It’s been too close to the industry. But it was good for my part. Was it a real porn set? Ben: No, but we imitated it really good. It’s no fake, it’s based on investigation. I saw a short documentary about this kind of porn and I was so surprised on set of how similar we were able to create the atmosphere of a real porn set. It’s a really intense atmosphere. Gloria: Yes, I saw that short documentary afterwards because Ben didn’t want me to watch it before. He had already sent all the documentaries and films to the other members of the team but I didn’t want to deal with it myself. I don’t have any reference to this world and I wanted to conquer it with Lucy. In the end it worked. I just thought, “Ooh my God, is this real with all the golden showers and fuckers?“ It really kind of traumatised me, because all those naked guys with these balaclavas… They’ve entered my comfort zone and I saw all those dicks! Yes, I was acting, but in the end I saw so many real dicks, more than I ever saw or will and that was wow… Ben: We had a special handling with it because we had a lot of nude extras and Lo Rivera, the actress that played Stella the porn star, also had never done something like this. So we treated everyone, no matter if extra, actor or porn star, the same, so that we could handle everything in a very respectful way. I heard stories about sets where all these people were treated different or as second class and I don’t want that in my work. It’s terrible! I guess it’s a steamy atmosphere with all those nude people and the mood would have been bad if you don’t respect everyone Ben: They’re all people and there’s no need in despising. An extra showing his blank ass shows as much as a porn actor. Gloria: It’s also been important for Lo and Jasmin Tabatabai to not see them as a pack of nudes. In the end they all were pretty nice guys. Ben: Let’s call it, we didn’t have that many fails especially if we talk about the extras. Gloria: Yeah, except the one. [Ben’s laughing out loud.] One was special. Ben: Yes, he was, but I want to keep this story for chatting at parties. Thank you, guys. It was a pleasure! Filmography Benjamin Teske 2009: Try a little tenderness (script, director) 2010: Rummel (script, director) 2011: Nachtbus (director) 2012: Stillstand (AT: Die goldene Stunde) (director) 2012: Die Essenz des Guten (actor) 2013: Fliehkraft (director)
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