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Thursday <strong>February</strong> <strong>18</strong> <strong>2021</strong> <strong>The</strong> <strong>Star</strong><br />

spent a lifetime as an optician<br />

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You have spent considerable<br />

time overseas helping<br />

communities in Cambodia<br />

and the Cook Islands. Were<br />

you inspired by a Kiwi who<br />

focused on restoring eyesight<br />

in Australia and many other<br />

countries, Fred Hollows?<br />

No, I was always interested in<br />

other stuff. I never met Fred. He<br />

died too soon (in 1993, at 63 of<br />

cancer in Sydney). I know a lot<br />

of the guys in the Fred Hollows<br />

Foundation. Fred made his mark<br />

in Australia, great guy.<br />

A meeting with Christchurch<br />

physician Dr William Grut<br />

led to your involvement with<br />

Rose Charities and a heartwarming<br />

association with<br />

Cambodia didn’t it?<br />

We started a clinic in Phnom<br />

Penh from scratch 20 years ago<br />

and now it’s the biggest eye clinic<br />

in Cambodia. We took up old<br />

gear to get them started. We went<br />

up once or twice a year, raised<br />

money for them and now they’re<br />

completely self-supporting. It<br />

was a real buzz to see the thing<br />

growing.<br />

Dr Grut reached out because<br />

he knew you had already worked<br />

overseas in disadvantaged<br />

communities hadn’t you?<br />

In 1982 or ‘83 I went to Tonga<br />

and then I went to the Cook<br />

Islands in 1986. I’ve been going to<br />

the Cook Islands ever since then.<br />

NZ Aid (New Zealand Agency<br />

for International Development)<br />

has an eye team, there’s about<br />

eight of us. I go to the outer<br />

islands, gather the pathology<br />

and bring it to Rarotonga. <strong>The</strong>y<br />

do a big diabetic screening<br />

programme up there. <strong>The</strong>re’s also<br />

an orthopaedic team, a dental<br />

team, a psych team. <strong>The</strong>y go up<br />

for two or three weeks because<br />

Cook Islanders have got a New<br />

Zealand passport and what do<br />

they do? We used to send lovely<br />

mama down to Auckland, give<br />

her an appointment to go to<br />

the hospital. She’d go down to<br />

the family and family is more<br />

important than her eyes and<br />

she’d spend all her time looking<br />

after all the kids and everything<br />

and always missed the<br />

appointments. <strong>The</strong>n we decided<br />

we were going up there.<br />

On one of your trips to<br />

Rarotonga in 2019 you had your<br />

own eye issue didn’t you?<br />

I got on the plane and I thought<br />

something’s wrong, my sight was<br />

blurred and I knew I was having<br />

a detached retina. <strong>The</strong> retina just<br />

peeled off and I was trapped on a<br />

four-hour flight. When I looked<br />

out the window with my good<br />

(right) eye covered I could see<br />

things but there was a distinct<br />

black edge with an orange border<br />

in that nasal quadrant.<br />

You made it home to<br />

Christchurch and soon realised<br />

what it was like to be a patient<br />

rather than a practitioner didn’t<br />

you?<br />

Jim Borthwick spent two hours<br />

reattaching my retina, he saved<br />

my sight. But you have to lie on<br />

your side for 10 days while it sort<br />

of sealed itself. I was the worst<br />

patient in the world. You could<br />

only get up for five minutes to get<br />

a cup of tea, a sandwich or to go<br />

to the loo.<br />

Still, it could have been worse.<br />

<strong>The</strong> procedure to remedy a<br />

detached retina is certainly<br />

more user-friendly these days<br />

isn’t it?<br />

<strong>The</strong> surgery has improved out<br />

of this world. In the old days<br />

they used to squeeze your eyeball<br />

and they’d put a piece of string<br />

around it and tighten it down.<br />

Is there still a future for<br />

independent optometrists since<br />

the advent of Specsavers and<br />

OPSM?<br />

Very definitely but we’ve<br />

certainly lost a huge chunk of<br />

the market. <strong>The</strong>y can bring<br />

10,000 frames in from China,<br />

we can’t compete on price. But<br />

independent optometrists are still<br />

going very well in Christchurch<br />

because – and I don’t want to be<br />

disparaging – they (retail chain<br />

optometrists) employ young<br />

optometrists who are just out<br />

of university. I get two or three<br />

people a week who say ‘I’m not<br />

going on there again’. <strong>The</strong>y’re<br />

all good people and they’re very<br />

well-trained but they don’t have<br />

the rapport with people who are<br />

50, 60, 70, 80 or 90. For the last<br />

couple of years I’ve been told:<br />

‘Don’t you dare retire John. My<br />

doctor’s retired and my dentist’s<br />

retired.’ But the time has come.<br />

You tried to find a buyer for<br />

Shirley Optometrists, though<br />

without success . . .<br />

<strong>The</strong>re are two or three practices<br />

run by older people like me<br />

who’ve managed to get someone<br />

to take over. I’ve rung everybody,<br />

they just don’t want it. <strong>The</strong> gear is<br />

going into a container tomorrow<br />

(Friday). Some of it will go Trade<br />

Me. I’ll probably take the frames<br />

up to the islands.<br />

Would you recommend the<br />

profession to a prospective<br />

optometrist today?<br />

It’s been a great profession but<br />

the trouble is the young ones,<br />

INSIGHT: John Veale assessing the vision of an inhabitant<br />

on Palmerston Island, a tiny coral atoll in the Cook Islands,<br />

in 2011.<br />

and I don’t want to sound like<br />

I’m griping about them, but they<br />

don’t want to do the hard stuff.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y want to go and work for<br />

Specsavers and make a hundred<br />

grand. <strong>The</strong>y won’t do home visits.<br />

That’s what I’m probably going to<br />

do when I’m out of here. If Mrs<br />

Smith is bedridden I’ll go and<br />

test her eyes at home. <strong>The</strong> young<br />

ones are not allowed to do it.<br />

Specsavers says there’s no money<br />

in that, we can see three people<br />

in the time it takes you to drive to<br />

Halswell to see Mrs Smith.<br />

What other plans do you have<br />

for your retirement?<br />

I’ll be doing two clinics<br />

a month at the Low Vision<br />

Clinic at Burwood Hospital<br />

and Southern Eye Specialists. I<br />

started the (low vision) service<br />

there in 1986. Low vision is when<br />

you’ve done everything but you’re<br />

not seeing as sharp as you’d like<br />

to see. Low vision has really been<br />

neglected in the country and I’m<br />

still pushing away.<br />

To that end you’re trying to<br />

get a mobile service set up aren’t<br />

you?<br />

<strong>The</strong> aim is to start a mobile<br />

service. It would screen people<br />

for diabetic retinopathy. Diabetes<br />

is going like this (he points<br />

upwards). Why would you<br />

want to go to hospital to get a<br />

photograph taken of the back of<br />

the eye which takes five minutes?<br />

You could put the machine<br />

in a van, you take it to the<br />

supermarket and it’s done.<br />

You’ve struck some obstacles<br />

with this project haven’t you?<br />

When I wanted to do the<br />

mobile clinic I went up to see<br />

them (Ministry of Health<br />

officials) about four or five years<br />

ago. <strong>The</strong>y’re shockers. I sent<br />

email, after email after email<br />

with ideas to save them money.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y never replied to any of my<br />

emails. I finally got up there,<br />

I gave them my business plan<br />

and they came back to me two<br />

weeks later and told me ‘We’ve<br />

got no money’. I wanted about<br />

$300,000 for the mobile clinics,<br />

to save thousands. <strong>The</strong>se guys<br />

are on $250,000 a year, sitting<br />

on their bums having cups of tea<br />

and coffee and going to meetings.<br />

<strong>The</strong>y’re bastards in Wellington. It<br />

doesn’t change from government<br />

to government does it?<br />

So the Government could<br />

clearly do more?<br />

In England you get a free<br />

examination on the National<br />

Health Service every two years.<br />

It’s the same in Australia. <strong>The</strong><br />

association (New Zealand<br />

Association of Optometrists) has<br />

tried to get the Government to<br />

do that but no. So that leads to<br />

problems. People leave it too late<br />

and they’ve got an eye condition<br />

which is harder to fix.<br />

How is your eyesight faring<br />

these days?<br />

My right eye is still perfect,<br />

my left is a little bit sticky. I’ve<br />

had three surgeries on it for<br />

two detached retinas and<br />

cataracts.<br />

I see the screensaver on your<br />

mobile phone is of Aoraki Mt<br />

Cook. Why did you choose that<br />

image?<br />

In 1980 a mate of mine (Phil<br />

James) came back from his OE<br />

and we started tramping. We<br />

decided to tramp all the possible<br />

passes from east to west (on<br />

the South Island). We did the<br />

Graham Saddle (in the Aoraki/<br />

Mt Cook National Park and then<br />

we thought ‘We better climb<br />

Mt Cook hadn’t we?’ So we did.<br />

We went to <strong>The</strong> Hermitage, had<br />

a beer and we did a GT (grand<br />

traverse) up the south-west face,<br />

and back down again.<br />

Your passion for mountain<br />

climbing and trekking didn’t<br />

peak at that point did it?<br />

I’ve climbed more than 10<br />

mountains in New Zealand more<br />

than 3000m feet. I’ve also done<br />

Kilimanjaro (Tanzania) and the<br />

highest mountain in Europe:<br />

Mt Elbrus (5642m) in Russia.<br />

We also went to base camp<br />

on the Nepalese side. I didn’t<br />

want to climb Mt Everest so we<br />

climbed Kala Patthar, right up<br />

the Khumbu at the ice fall. We<br />

walked the Queen Charlotte<br />

Track the other day and I limped<br />

away. I need a new hip. I’m doing<br />

a tramp in the Wairarapa in<br />

April. I’ll just take a lot of pills, I<br />

don’t think I’ll have the hip fixed<br />

by then.<br />

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