The Star: February 18, 2021
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Thursday <strong>February</strong> <strong>18</strong> <strong>2021</strong> <strong>The</strong> <strong>Star</strong><br />
spent a lifetime as an optician<br />
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You have spent considerable<br />
time overseas helping<br />
communities in Cambodia<br />
and the Cook Islands. Were<br />
you inspired by a Kiwi who<br />
focused on restoring eyesight<br />
in Australia and many other<br />
countries, Fred Hollows?<br />
No, I was always interested in<br />
other stuff. I never met Fred. He<br />
died too soon (in 1993, at 63 of<br />
cancer in Sydney). I know a lot<br />
of the guys in the Fred Hollows<br />
Foundation. Fred made his mark<br />
in Australia, great guy.<br />
A meeting with Christchurch<br />
physician Dr William Grut<br />
led to your involvement with<br />
Rose Charities and a heartwarming<br />
association with<br />
Cambodia didn’t it?<br />
We started a clinic in Phnom<br />
Penh from scratch 20 years ago<br />
and now it’s the biggest eye clinic<br />
in Cambodia. We took up old<br />
gear to get them started. We went<br />
up once or twice a year, raised<br />
money for them and now they’re<br />
completely self-supporting. It<br />
was a real buzz to see the thing<br />
growing.<br />
Dr Grut reached out because<br />
he knew you had already worked<br />
overseas in disadvantaged<br />
communities hadn’t you?<br />
In 1982 or ‘83 I went to Tonga<br />
and then I went to the Cook<br />
Islands in 1986. I’ve been going to<br />
the Cook Islands ever since then.<br />
NZ Aid (New Zealand Agency<br />
for International Development)<br />
has an eye team, there’s about<br />
eight of us. I go to the outer<br />
islands, gather the pathology<br />
and bring it to Rarotonga. <strong>The</strong>y<br />
do a big diabetic screening<br />
programme up there. <strong>The</strong>re’s also<br />
an orthopaedic team, a dental<br />
team, a psych team. <strong>The</strong>y go up<br />
for two or three weeks because<br />
Cook Islanders have got a New<br />
Zealand passport and what do<br />
they do? We used to send lovely<br />
mama down to Auckland, give<br />
her an appointment to go to<br />
the hospital. She’d go down to<br />
the family and family is more<br />
important than her eyes and<br />
she’d spend all her time looking<br />
after all the kids and everything<br />
and always missed the<br />
appointments. <strong>The</strong>n we decided<br />
we were going up there.<br />
On one of your trips to<br />
Rarotonga in 2019 you had your<br />
own eye issue didn’t you?<br />
I got on the plane and I thought<br />
something’s wrong, my sight was<br />
blurred and I knew I was having<br />
a detached retina. <strong>The</strong> retina just<br />
peeled off and I was trapped on a<br />
four-hour flight. When I looked<br />
out the window with my good<br />
(right) eye covered I could see<br />
things but there was a distinct<br />
black edge with an orange border<br />
in that nasal quadrant.<br />
You made it home to<br />
Christchurch and soon realised<br />
what it was like to be a patient<br />
rather than a practitioner didn’t<br />
you?<br />
Jim Borthwick spent two hours<br />
reattaching my retina, he saved<br />
my sight. But you have to lie on<br />
your side for 10 days while it sort<br />
of sealed itself. I was the worst<br />
patient in the world. You could<br />
only get up for five minutes to get<br />
a cup of tea, a sandwich or to go<br />
to the loo.<br />
Still, it could have been worse.<br />
<strong>The</strong> procedure to remedy a<br />
detached retina is certainly<br />
more user-friendly these days<br />
isn’t it?<br />
<strong>The</strong> surgery has improved out<br />
of this world. In the old days<br />
they used to squeeze your eyeball<br />
and they’d put a piece of string<br />
around it and tighten it down.<br />
Is there still a future for<br />
independent optometrists since<br />
the advent of Specsavers and<br />
OPSM?<br />
Very definitely but we’ve<br />
certainly lost a huge chunk of<br />
the market. <strong>The</strong>y can bring<br />
10,000 frames in from China,<br />
we can’t compete on price. But<br />
independent optometrists are still<br />
going very well in Christchurch<br />
because – and I don’t want to be<br />
disparaging – they (retail chain<br />
optometrists) employ young<br />
optometrists who are just out<br />
of university. I get two or three<br />
people a week who say ‘I’m not<br />
going on there again’. <strong>The</strong>y’re<br />
all good people and they’re very<br />
well-trained but they don’t have<br />
the rapport with people who are<br />
50, 60, 70, 80 or 90. For the last<br />
couple of years I’ve been told:<br />
‘Don’t you dare retire John. My<br />
doctor’s retired and my dentist’s<br />
retired.’ But the time has come.<br />
You tried to find a buyer for<br />
Shirley Optometrists, though<br />
without success . . .<br />
<strong>The</strong>re are two or three practices<br />
run by older people like me<br />
who’ve managed to get someone<br />
to take over. I’ve rung everybody,<br />
they just don’t want it. <strong>The</strong> gear is<br />
going into a container tomorrow<br />
(Friday). Some of it will go Trade<br />
Me. I’ll probably take the frames<br />
up to the islands.<br />
Would you recommend the<br />
profession to a prospective<br />
optometrist today?<br />
It’s been a great profession but<br />
the trouble is the young ones,<br />
INSIGHT: John Veale assessing the vision of an inhabitant<br />
on Palmerston Island, a tiny coral atoll in the Cook Islands,<br />
in 2011.<br />
and I don’t want to sound like<br />
I’m griping about them, but they<br />
don’t want to do the hard stuff.<br />
<strong>The</strong>y want to go and work for<br />
Specsavers and make a hundred<br />
grand. <strong>The</strong>y won’t do home visits.<br />
That’s what I’m probably going to<br />
do when I’m out of here. If Mrs<br />
Smith is bedridden I’ll go and<br />
test her eyes at home. <strong>The</strong> young<br />
ones are not allowed to do it.<br />
Specsavers says there’s no money<br />
in that, we can see three people<br />
in the time it takes you to drive to<br />
Halswell to see Mrs Smith.<br />
What other plans do you have<br />
for your retirement?<br />
I’ll be doing two clinics<br />
a month at the Low Vision<br />
Clinic at Burwood Hospital<br />
and Southern Eye Specialists. I<br />
started the (low vision) service<br />
there in 1986. Low vision is when<br />
you’ve done everything but you’re<br />
not seeing as sharp as you’d like<br />
to see. Low vision has really been<br />
neglected in the country and I’m<br />
still pushing away.<br />
To that end you’re trying to<br />
get a mobile service set up aren’t<br />
you?<br />
<strong>The</strong> aim is to start a mobile<br />
service. It would screen people<br />
for diabetic retinopathy. Diabetes<br />
is going like this (he points<br />
upwards). Why would you<br />
want to go to hospital to get a<br />
photograph taken of the back of<br />
the eye which takes five minutes?<br />
You could put the machine<br />
in a van, you take it to the<br />
supermarket and it’s done.<br />
You’ve struck some obstacles<br />
with this project haven’t you?<br />
When I wanted to do the<br />
mobile clinic I went up to see<br />
them (Ministry of Health<br />
officials) about four or five years<br />
ago. <strong>The</strong>y’re shockers. I sent<br />
email, after email after email<br />
with ideas to save them money.<br />
<strong>The</strong>y never replied to any of my<br />
emails. I finally got up there,<br />
I gave them my business plan<br />
and they came back to me two<br />
weeks later and told me ‘We’ve<br />
got no money’. I wanted about<br />
$300,000 for the mobile clinics,<br />
to save thousands. <strong>The</strong>se guys<br />
are on $250,000 a year, sitting<br />
on their bums having cups of tea<br />
and coffee and going to meetings.<br />
<strong>The</strong>y’re bastards in Wellington. It<br />
doesn’t change from government<br />
to government does it?<br />
So the Government could<br />
clearly do more?<br />
In England you get a free<br />
examination on the National<br />
Health Service every two years.<br />
It’s the same in Australia. <strong>The</strong><br />
association (New Zealand<br />
Association of Optometrists) has<br />
tried to get the Government to<br />
do that but no. So that leads to<br />
problems. People leave it too late<br />
and they’ve got an eye condition<br />
which is harder to fix.<br />
How is your eyesight faring<br />
these days?<br />
My right eye is still perfect,<br />
my left is a little bit sticky. I’ve<br />
had three surgeries on it for<br />
two detached retinas and<br />
cataracts.<br />
I see the screensaver on your<br />
mobile phone is of Aoraki Mt<br />
Cook. Why did you choose that<br />
image?<br />
In 1980 a mate of mine (Phil<br />
James) came back from his OE<br />
and we started tramping. We<br />
decided to tramp all the possible<br />
passes from east to west (on<br />
the South Island). We did the<br />
Graham Saddle (in the Aoraki/<br />
Mt Cook National Park and then<br />
we thought ‘We better climb<br />
Mt Cook hadn’t we?’ So we did.<br />
We went to <strong>The</strong> Hermitage, had<br />
a beer and we did a GT (grand<br />
traverse) up the south-west face,<br />
and back down again.<br />
Your passion for mountain<br />
climbing and trekking didn’t<br />
peak at that point did it?<br />
I’ve climbed more than 10<br />
mountains in New Zealand more<br />
than 3000m feet. I’ve also done<br />
Kilimanjaro (Tanzania) and the<br />
highest mountain in Europe:<br />
Mt Elbrus (5642m) in Russia.<br />
We also went to base camp<br />
on the Nepalese side. I didn’t<br />
want to climb Mt Everest so we<br />
climbed Kala Patthar, right up<br />
the Khumbu at the ice fall. We<br />
walked the Queen Charlotte<br />
Track the other day and I limped<br />
away. I need a new hip. I’m doing<br />
a tramp in the Wairarapa in<br />
April. I’ll just take a lot of pills, I<br />
don’t think I’ll have the hip fixed<br />
by then.<br />
Put yourself in a corner.<br />
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