Victor De Grazia Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield
Victor De Grazia Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield
Victor De Grazia Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield
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I want to get back to the organizing thing because <strong>of</strong> one important, I<br />
think, phenomenon. In the beginning <strong>of</strong> the campaign I asked a friend <strong>of</strong><br />
mine who was a sociologist to dig up for me everything he could find on<br />
voting habits <strong>of</strong> the suburbanites. And he was at Columbia at the time<br />
and I remember we met in New York and he gave me some articles and he<br />
said, "There's one thing I can tell you. People who move from the city<br />
to the suburbs do not change their parties." I said, "What!" He said,<br />
"They do not change their party unless they change their class. If they<br />
change their social class, they may change their party." Well, when I<br />
started realizing the implications <strong>of</strong> that, the organizing strategy<br />
started developing for the campaign. We organized those suburbs<br />
fantastically. I mean we just had volunteers everywhere.<br />
One <strong>of</strong> the funny things is, a <strong>De</strong>mocrat from Chicago moves out to Lake<br />
County or moves out to southern Cook County; now he's always had a<br />
precinct captain who's come around, knocked on the door, and he'd vote.<br />
He moves out there, he stops voting or he votes only when he's really<br />
excited. So people say, "Oh well, as soon as they leave Chicago, they're<br />
no more <strong>De</strong>mocrats." They're still <strong>De</strong>mocrats, they just don't vote.<br />
In DuPage County just before the election, Bill Redmond, whom I love, and<br />
I were talking about that and he was for Paul Simon and I said to him,<br />
'I Bill, how many votes are we going to have in the <strong>De</strong>mocratic primary?"<br />
And he said, "Oh, I would guess the usual. Around ten thousand." I<br />
said, "Bill, you're wrong .I1 He said, "No, I think around ten thousand."<br />
Well, he was right. He got out his ten thousand and we got out thirty<br />
thousand other ones. And he was astonished. "Where did you find all<br />
those people?" So, he said, "Oh, they're all Republicans." Baloney.<br />
They weren't Republicans, they're <strong>De</strong>mocrats. They're still out there.<br />
And you look and you see what happens when Alan Dixon ran or Stevenson<br />
ran in DuPage County. They pour out like crazy to vote for them. But<br />
they're not going to vote for . . . well, Redmond is a good Irish<br />
Catholic and he and I would fight about the Catholic control, Irish<br />
Catholic control, <strong>of</strong> the <strong>De</strong>mocratic party. I believe it should be<br />
Italian. (laughter) But the candidates they run . . . they run Irish<br />
Catholic candidates in DuPage County. Well, that's not going to, you<br />
know, those candidates aren't going to win. So that's what I was doing.<br />
Working on organizing, fundraising wherever I could. Cajoling, pleading,<br />
doing whatever I could.<br />
Q: The last months <strong>of</strong> the campaign--February, March--how were you<br />
feeling about it? Did you believe you were going to win?<br />
A: We did a poll in January that showed Simon winning. But his<br />
weaknesses were so apparent in that poll that we knew we could win. And<br />
the last month <strong>of</strong> the campaign nobody knows nothin'. You just are going<br />
on adrenalin and instinct and, you know, you say what you have to say to<br />
people. People say, "HOW does it look?" You want to throttle people<br />
because everybody says that, Well, they're so nervous and they think<br />
you're on the inside and you know everything that's going on, you know,<br />
and so you say, "Oh, it looks great,'' and "He's going to win,'' just<br />
'cause that's the best thing to say to keep people's morale up. But you<br />
really don't know. You can do sophisticated polling at the end and get a<br />
pretty good idea, but if it's close there's no idea.