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<strong>lado</strong> <strong>papava</strong>: <strong>saakaSvili</strong> <strong>aris</strong> <strong>Tanamedrove</strong> <strong>qarTveli</strong><br />
<strong>nikita</strong> <strong>xruSCovi</strong>, <strong>saakaSvili</strong>s mTavroba wminda rusuli<br />
neobolSevikuri proeqtia!<br />
gazeTi “asaval-dasavali” – 18-24 ivnisi, # 25, 2012.<br />
aSS-s saxelmwifo mdivnis hilari klintonis vizitis Semdeg<br />
xelisuflebam biZina ivaniSvils ufro meti agresiiT Seutia – “global-<br />
tivis” mier mosaxleobisaTvis 10-wliani ganvadebiT damontaJebuli<br />
antenebis gamo 150 milioniT daajarimes. saapelacio sasamarTlom jarima<br />
gaanaxevra, Tumca advokatebi acxadeben, rom ivaniSvili arafris<br />
gadaxdas ar apirebs. rogor SeiZleba ganviTardes movlenebi? amis<br />
Sesaxeb ekonomikur mecnierebaTa doqtori, profesori <strong>lado</strong> <strong>papava</strong><br />
gvesaubreba.<br />
_ batono <strong>lado</strong>, saapelacio sasamarTlom gaanaxevra biZina<br />
ivaniSvilisTvis dakisrebuli 150 milioniani jarima, Tumca biZina<br />
ivaniSvili arc mis gadaxdas apirebs. rogor SeafasebT sasamarTlos<br />
gadawyvetilebas da rogor gesaxebaT movlenebis ganviTareba?<br />
_ upirveles yovlisa, mainteresebs, ratom <strong>aris</strong> es amomrCevlis<br />
mosyidva? roca `global-tivi~ gaZlevs am antenas, SegiZlia, uyuro<br />
nebismier arxs. Tundac mxolod `me-9 arxs~ da `maestros~ uyurebde,<br />
gamagebineT, akrZalulia es arxebi?Llicenzia xom aqvT miRebuli da<br />
oficialurad mauwyebloben. es niSania imisa, rom xelisuflebas eSinia<br />
da SiSis gamo iRebs absurdul gadawyvetilebebs.<br />
CemTvis, rogorc ekonomistisTvis, mTavari isaa, rom am jarimis<br />
dasabuTebis dros kontrolis palatam uxeSi ekonomikuri Secdoma<br />
dauSva. mogexsenebaT, `global tivi~-m daariga antenebi Sesabamisi<br />
xelSekrulebebiT, romelSic weria, rom es <strong>aris</strong> 10 wliani ganvadeba.<br />
pirvel wels momxarebeli arafers ixdis, meore wlidan ki,<br />
yovelTviurad 4 lari unda gadaixados. jamSi es <strong>aris</strong> 432 lari.<br />
kontrolis palatam iangariSa, es antena rom ar eyida firmas da fuli<br />
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Seetana bankSi, ra Tanxas miiRebda is aTi wlis Semdeg, magram gaTvlis<br />
dros dauSva TvalSisacemi Secdoma _ erTi mxriv, aiRo Tviuri<br />
gadasaxdeli 4 lari da meore mxriv, wliuri saprocento ganakveTi 13,7%.<br />
es aSkara Secdomaa, radganac erTmaneTs Seadares Tviuri da wliuri<br />
sidideebi; orive sidide erTdroulad an wlir an Tviur ganzomilebaSi<br />
unda aeRoT. aseTi Secdoma pirveli kursis studentsac ar epatieba. amiT<br />
iangariSes, rom es proeqti wamgebiania da amomrCevlis mosyidvas isaxavs<br />
miznad, sinamdvileSi ki proeqti ar <strong>aris</strong> wamgebiani. gangeb dauSva<br />
kontrolis palatam es Secdoma, Tu uneburad, ra mniSvneloba aqvs?<br />
faqti erTia, Secdomaze dayrdnobiT sasamarTlomac brmad miiRo<br />
gadawyvetileba.<br />
ivaniSvilis gundi ambobs, rom am fuls ar gadaixdian, mTavroba<br />
ambobs, rom imoqmedebs kanonis Sesabamisad, Tumca, mTavrobisTvis<br />
aranairi mniSvneloba ara aqvs, kanonSi ra weria. es jarima gamoitanes<br />
ekonomikur absurdze dayrdnobiT, ra dauSliT, rom xval adgnen da<br />
ivaniSvilis banki daayadaRon? am agresuli mTavrobidan, romelic<br />
xelisuflebaSi dasarCenad nebismieri formebiT da meTodebiT ibrZvis,<br />
yvelaferia mosalodneli.<br />
amitom is, rom ivaniSvilis gundi apirebs brZolis gagrZelebas,<br />
sworia, magram ra formiT? ivaniSvils gunds ufro frTxili da moqnili<br />
moqmedeba sWirdeba. marTalia, isini moqmedeben kanonis Sesabamisad,<br />
magram ar unda daaviwydeT, rom saqme aqvT ara kanonmorCil, aramed<br />
agresiul xelisuflebasTan. veWvob, rom ivaniSvilis gundis wevrebs<br />
bolomde hqondeT gaTvlili is safrTxeebi, rac am arasamarTlian<br />
brZolaSi <strong>aris</strong> mosalodneli.<br />
_ es yvelaferi moxda aSS-s saxelmwifo mdivnis hilari klintonis<br />
vizitis Semdeg, arada, xalxi eloda, rom am vizitis Semdeg xelisufleba<br />
terors Searbilebda mainc...<br />
_ xalxi tyuilad elodeba, rom amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi<br />
dadgeba demokratiis mxares Tu Tavad qarTvel ers Tavad ar surs<br />
demokratia. arsad msoflioSi amerikas demokratiis dasacavad Tavi ar<br />
Seuwuxebia, Tu Tavad xalxi ar dgas demokratiis mxares. gavixsenoT,<br />
rogori mxardaWera hqonda aSS-sgan egviptis prezidents mubaraqs.<br />
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maSinac ki, roca xalxma daiwyo gamosvla mubaraqis winaaRdeg, TeTri<br />
saxli da saxelmwifo departamenti Riad uWerda mas mxars. amerikelebi<br />
mxolod maSin dadgnen demokratiis mxares, roca naxes, rom xalxis<br />
saprotesto muxtis SeCereba mTavrobas aRar SeeZlo. putini<br />
prezidentobidan gaxda premier-ministri. vinmem Sewyvita masTan<br />
urTierToba? premierobidan isev gaxda prezidenti, vinmem boikoti<br />
gamoucxada? ase rom, Tu Cven saakaSvils mivcemT SesaZleblobas, rom<br />
gaxdes premieri, is gaxdeba premieri, amerika gamoTqvams kritikul<br />
mosazrebebs, magram yvelaferi dasruldeba amiT. Tu xalxs moundeba<br />
demokratia, amerika dadgeba xalxis mxares, magram Tu xalxi waiknavlebs<br />
demokratia mindao, maSin is gaakritikebs saakaSvils, magram sabolood<br />
mxars mas dauWers.<br />
_BbiZina ivaniSvilis SefasebiT, hilari klintonma Riad uTxra<br />
saakaSvils, rom unda wavides. meores mxriv, Cven movismineT qalbatoni<br />
klintonis sityvebi iusticiis saxlis daTvalierebisas, roca xalxs<br />
aseT rames uSeneb, rogor SeiZleba man xma ar mogceso.<br />
_ me maqvs Sexvedrebi sakmaod seriozul amerikel eqspertebTan,<br />
romelTagan vici aSS-s xelmZRvanelobis pozicia, rom <strong>saakaSvili</strong> maRal<br />
politikur Tanadebobaze aRar unda darCes. es <strong>aris</strong> amerikis<br />
erTmniSvnelovani pozicia.<br />
rac Seexeba mSeneblobebs, amerikelebi xedaven, rom Sendeba da amas<br />
miesalmebian, Tumca, maT ar ician, rogor Sendeba. engurze rom xidi<br />
gades, adidebilma engurma waiRo. Tbilisis aeroports qarma saxuravi<br />
axada da wvima Camovida, baTumis axalgaxsnil operaSi koncertze wvimis<br />
dros WurWeli edgaT, rom wyals iataki ar gaefuWebina. parlametis<br />
mSenebare SenobaSi sxdoma Caatares da erTi kviris mere am mSeneblobas<br />
adamiani emsxverpla. samwuxarod, es ar <strong>aris</strong> erTaderTi msxverpli.<br />
pirveli msxverpli iyo TabukaSvilis quCaze, roca saxlis ngrevas muSa<br />
emsxverpla. quTaisSi memorialis afeTqebam ki deda-Svili Seiwira.<br />
_ batono <strong>lado</strong>, rogor fiqrobT, riT <strong>aris</strong> gamowveuli <strong>saakaSvili</strong>s<br />
akviateba, rom yvelaferi Cqara unda aSendes da mniSvneloba ara aqvs<br />
x<strong>aris</strong>xs?<br />
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_ me im asakis adamiani var, romelac sabWoTa kavSirSi icxovra.<br />
SesaniSnavad maxsovs, rom maSin iyo ori TariRi _ 7 noemberi da 1 maisi,<br />
paranoiamde iyo dasuli yvelafris Cabareba am TariRebisTvis. zustad<br />
igive xdeba dRevandel saqarTveloSi. Tveebic ki daemTxva _ komunistebis<br />
dros Tu 7 noemberi iyo, axla gvaqvs 23 noemberi, Tu maSin 1 maisi iyo,<br />
axla gvaqvs 26 maisi. marTalia, es sxva dReebia, magram zustad<br />
bolSevikuri stilis mmarTvelobaa. zustad is xdeba dRes saqarTveloSi,<br />
rac xdeboda <strong>nikita</strong> <strong>xruSCovi</strong>s dros. mmarTvalobis stili – subieqtiuri<br />
volintarizmi – igivea!<br />
erTxel <strong>xruSCovi</strong> unda Camosuliyo TbilisSi. xidze, romelic ar<br />
iyo dasrulebuli, <strong>xruSCovi</strong>s manqanas unda gaevlo, amitom daayenes<br />
xalxi, romelTac erTi xeliT moajiri eWiraT, meoreTi xels uqnevdnen<br />
xruSCovs. <strong>saakaSvili</strong> <strong>aris</strong> <strong>Tanamedrove</strong> <strong>qarTveli</strong> <strong>nikita</strong> <strong>xruSCovi</strong>.<br />
<strong>saakaSvili</strong>s mTavroba wminda rusuli neobolSevikuri proeqtia.<br />
gaixseneT, ra iyo <strong>xruSCovi</strong>s idea? misi idea iyo, rom mTels sabWoTa<br />
kavSirs puris nacvlad simindi eWama. naxeT, amaSic rogori msgavsebaa?<br />
sxvaTaSoris, simindis programa xruSCovsac Cauvarda. stalini<br />
diqtatori iyo, magram mas hqonda gaTvlebi. <strong>xruSCovi</strong> diqtatoris<br />
parodia iyo. zustad es situaciaa dRes saqarTveloSi.<br />
_ raki mSeneblobi vaxseneT, lazikazec visaubroT, ris Sesaxebac<br />
konstituciaSi Sesworebebi Seitanes.<br />
_ amiT kidev erTxel “gaaupatiures” konstitucia. Tanac ra,<br />
pirvelad “gaaupatiures”? Cveni konstitucia nacionalebis xelSi “meZavi<br />
dedakaciviT” <strong>aris</strong>. Tundac is Sesworebebi, rac viTomda ivaniSvilisTvis<br />
gaakeTes, konstituciis pativiscemaa? an ra unda konstituciaSi lazikas,<br />
qalaqs, romelic jer ar aSenebula da gindac aSenebuli iyos? jer<br />
kidev im parlamentma, romlis wevric me gaxldiT, miiRo kanoni<br />
specialuri industriuli zonebis Sesaxeb. am kanoniT Seiqmna ramdenime<br />
zona, maT Soris, foTsa da quTaisSi. raime eSvela am qalaqebs?<br />
sagadasaxado SeRavaTebis micema ekonomikuri ganviTarebisTvis sulac ar<br />
<strong>aris</strong> sakm<strong>aris</strong>i. Tu am SeRavaTebma ukve arsebul industriul qalaq<br />
quTaiss ver uSvela, ukve arsebul saporto qalaq foTs ver uSvela, ra<br />
unda uSvelos im adgils, sadac jer mxolod bayayebiTa da koRoebiT<br />
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savse Waobia? rac mTavaria, viszea es yvelaferi gaTvlili? romeli<br />
naxevari milioni Cveni Tanamoqalaqe unda Casaxldes iq? iqneb, sityva<br />
`Cven~ SecdomiT gamoviyene da viRac gadamTielebis Camosaxlebazea<br />
saubari? aranairi fobia ar mWirs, magram ar minda, specialurad vakeToT<br />
is proeqtebi, rom viRac aq CamovasaxloT. amdeni gaWirvebuli adamiania,<br />
amdeni gaWirvebuli qalaqi da dasaxlebaa, sadac cxovreba ver agviwyvia<br />
da WaobSi unda aSendes raRaca? ra TanxebiT unda aSendes? lazikac<br />
wminda <strong>xruSCovi</strong>seuli stilis proeqtia.<br />
_ batono <strong>lado</strong>, yovelive amis Semdeg rogoria Tqveni molodini<br />
oqtombris arCevnebisTvis?<br />
_ miSa rom arCevnebs gaayalbebs, amaSi ori azri ar arsebobs.<br />
arCevnebisGgayalbeba da qveynis premier-ministroba ori<br />
urTierTgadajaWvuli cnebebia. diax, nacionalebi gayalbebaze wavlen,<br />
magram Cven unda davicvaT Cveni xma, Tumca, am etapze mTavari <strong>aris</strong> ara<br />
xmis dacvis mowodeba, aramed arCevnebze misvlisa da xmis micemisaken<br />
mowodeba. xalxi ar unda gaCerdes saxlSi, unda misces xma da Semdeg es<br />
xma daicvas. Tu Cven es ver movaxerxeT, maSin is gveqneba, risi Rirsic<br />
varT!<br />
esaubra Tea asaTiani<br />
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