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20 saerTo gazeTi #38 (222), 5-11.IX, 2012 w.<br />
`mesim waikiTxa burTis<br />
mosalodneli mimarTuleba<br />
da iq gaCnda, sadac<br />
mas aravin eloda~.<br />
(ferburTis rigiTi<br />
tele-reportaJidan)<br />
`kiTxvis Sesaxeb~ _ marsel<br />
prustis araCveulebrivi piesa<br />
saxelwodebiT, rac XX saukunis<br />
dasawyisSi daiwera. mas<br />
aqeT mTelma saukunem gaiara,<br />
kiTxvis (wignis) problema ki<br />
ufro gafarTovda, meti masStabi<br />
SeiZina, anu, ufro metad<br />
davSordiT wigns. ufro metad<br />
daSordnen erTmaneTs mwerali<br />
da mkiTxveli. dro midis, XXI-<br />
Si gadmovabijeT. axla wignis<br />
anotaciasac ar kiTxuloben.<br />
`Seni leqsebi vnaxe~, `Seni<br />
moTxroba vnaxe~, `Seni romani<br />
vnaxe~ da misTanani da misTanani.<br />
ki ar wavikiTxe, aramed vnaxe,<br />
naxa, magram ar waikiTxa. fasadis<br />
dro Camodga. Senobebis<br />
mopirkeTebis dro. Tvalis axvevis<br />
dro.<br />
anotacia_lamazi yelsabamia,<br />
lamazi kaba, lamazi fasadi, mopirkeTebuli,<br />
galamazebuli<br />
rusTavelisa da aRmaSeneblis<br />
gamziri. am Senobebis miRma ki<br />
mTeli cxovrebaa.. Tavisi aviTa<br />
da kargiT, metad-aviT am Senobebis<br />
wiaRSi cxovroben adamianebi,<br />
romelTa SinamoSi ixedeba<br />
Cveni Tanamedrove musikiTve da<br />
sada, sayovelTao eniT aRwers<br />
da gadmogvcems maT sulier<br />
mdgomareobas. qalaqis eniT, ra<br />
enazedac saubroben qalaqelebi.<br />
guram fanjikiZis<br />
qalaqi, poetis sayovelTao<br />
mosmenili fraza<br />
rom moviSvelioT,<br />
kargad daviwyebuli<br />
sofelia.<br />
sofelSi _ mindvris yvavilebia.<br />
_ qalaqSi _ qoTnis yvavilebi.<br />
qaRaldis yvavilebi.<br />
`mxolod qaRaldis yvavilebs<br />
ar sWirdeba movla-patronoba~,<br />
_ wers xuan ramon ximenesi,<br />
ra gamonaTqvamia, azrs<br />
kargavs. im mkiTxvelisTvis, visac<br />
guram fanjikiZis romanebs<br />
waikiTxavs da CauRrmavdeba.<br />
sofeli _ Tavisufali<br />
Citia.<br />
qalaqi _ galiis Citi.<br />
`ginaxavT axaldaWerili da<br />
damfrTxali Citi galiaSi rogor<br />
awydeba kedlebs Cemi guli<br />
mkerdSi im CitiviT farTxalebda,<br />
neknebs saSineli ZaliT<br />
exeTqeboda, Tavis daRwevas da<br />
Sors gafrenas lamobda, aseTi<br />
gancda dameufla, TiTqos sxeulSi<br />
gulis garda sxva araferi<br />
mqonda~.<br />
guls gardao.<br />
qarTvelebi guls vambobT.<br />
rusebi, metwilad, samagali-<br />
Tod vambob, suls axseneben.<br />
`xeliT <br />
es SeiZleba ase gadmoiTargmnos:<br />
`guli mtkiva~.<br />
gulma Seiwira kidevac Cveni<br />
gulTamxilavi da gulis aRmwereli<br />
mesityve.<br />
`haeris ukmarisobisgan<br />
adgilze davbarbarcdi~<br />
sofeli _ haeria.<br />
qalaqi _ uhaeroba. ormagi.<br />
mTeli sigrZe-siganiT icnobs<br />
qalaqs guram fanjikiZe.<br />
qalaqs da qalaqelebs. qalaqis<br />
Wir-varams da qalaqis enas.<br />
kiTxvis Sesaxeb, anu Sesavali<br />
wignisaTvis: `Cemi rCeuli Tanamedroveni~<br />
(guram fanjikiZe)<br />
`axla wignis anotaciebis kiTxvis droa~.<br />
guram fanjikiZe<br />
gaugonari ubraloeba menatrebao,<br />
werda pasternaki.<br />
gaugonari ubraloebis magaliTia<br />
guram fanjikiZis Semoqmedeba.<br />
`dedam sabani amomikeca,<br />
Sublze makoca da<br />
oTaxidan gavida~.<br />
aseTia Cveni ena. sayovel-<br />
Tao, saxalxo da sasaqarTvelo.<br />
yovelgvari zizil-pipiloebisa<br />
da Selamazeba _ ferumarilis<br />
gareSe.<br />
aseTia _ `Tvali patiosanis~<br />
avtoris ena.<br />
sityvam moitana da Tvalma<br />
gamaxsena:<br />
erTxelac cxonebuli guram<br />
fanjikiZe da jandacvis ministri<br />
SeekamaTnen erTmaneTs. ministrma<br />
mwerals uTakila, jandacvaSi<br />
araferi gekiTxebao, razedac<br />
me im xanebSi patara replika<br />
gamovaqveyne, riTac baton<br />
ministrs Sevaxsene_mwerali is<br />
Tvalia, <strong>romelic</strong> eqimsac da mis<br />
pacientsac akvirdeba-meTqi, rac<br />
gansakuTrebiT iTqmis iseTi yaidis<br />
mweralze (rogoric iyo<br />
(aris) guram fanjikiZe.<br />
guram fanjikiZe, anu Tvali<br />
patiosani Cveni Tanamedroveobis<br />
JamTa-aRmwereli da majis Sematyobari.<br />
Tvali, Tvalis Cini. gulis<br />
Tvali. gonebis Tvali. sulis<br />
Tvali.<br />
`ai, me vagonSi var,<br />
fanjridan vicqirebi,<br />
gamcileblebi dabla<br />
arian. saTqmeli ukve<br />
miTxres. gamomeSvidobnen<br />
kidec, zogierTma<br />
gulmxurvaled, zogerTmac<br />
zrdilobisaTvis<br />
gadamkocnes.<br />
axla ki SevCerebivarT<br />
erTmaneTs da ar viciT,<br />
ra movimoqmedoT.<br />
matareblis gasvlamde<br />
wuTebiRa darCa,<br />
magram grZeli, uxerxulobis<br />
grZnobiT da-<br />
Zabuli da gawelili<br />
wuTebi... erTi suli<br />
gvaqvs, rodis daiZreba<br />
matarebeli, bolos<br />
mainc dgeba sanatrelad<br />
qceulic wuTic~...<br />
romeli didi mwerali ar<br />
moawerda am pasaJs xels<br />
es suraTi, rogorc vxedavT,<br />
marto Tvalis CiniT rodia danaxuli.<br />
aq gulis Tvalic monawileobs,<br />
gonebis Tvalic da<br />
sulis Tvalic.<br />
msgavs viTarebaSi vin ar yofila,<br />
magram mxolod mweralma<br />
gviTxra is, rac bundovnad gagvifiqrebia,<br />
gnebavT, dagvimalavs,<br />
gulisa Tu gonebis Tvali<br />
agviridebia, mweralma ki<br />
aRnusxa, gaaanaliza da gamoaCina<br />
Cveni faruli da uTqmeli<br />
SegrZnebani, cxadliv, uSiSrad<br />
da daufaravad.<br />
Sinaur mRvdels Sendoba ara<br />
aqvso.<br />
vuTxariT Tu ara<br />
guram fanjikiZies Rirsi<br />
sityva<br />
ara mgonia.<br />
arc mweralTan gamoTxovebis<br />
Semdeg gviTqvams<br />
saTanado sityva<br />
mis Semoqmedebaze,<br />
miviviwyeT, ase vTqvaT,<br />
Tumca, miviwyebac<br />
imis dasturia, rom<br />
arsebobs is, risi miviwyebac<br />
SeiZleba. ararsebuls<br />
ver miviviwyebT,<br />
guram fanjikiZis<br />
miviwyeba, Cemi gagebiT,<br />
Cvenive Tavis miviwyebis<br />
tolfasia.<br />
Cveni arsebobis uaryofa. sinamdvilis,<br />
realobis uaryofa,<br />
Tanamedroveobis uaryofa, rasac<br />
Rirsebis uqonlobad miiCnevs<br />
erTi Zveli Cineli literatori.<br />
sxvaTa Soris, Cinelebma<br />
ician, sad cxovrobda, rogor<br />
cxovrobda da riTi iyo<br />
gatacebuli TavianTi IV saukuneli<br />
poeti _ tao iuan mini,<br />
ufro Sors rom wavideT, sad<br />
esaxla tao, ekiTxeba patara bi-<br />
Ws taos mTargmneli, akademikosi<br />
lev eidlini da biWi pasuxobs:<br />
`ageraa, batono, or nabijze,<br />
taos saxli~. Cven ar viciT,<br />
Cveni rusTaveli, saiT wavida<br />
da ra iqna, firosmani davkargeT<br />
duqnis karebTan maCabeli<br />
_ saxlis karebTan, graneli<br />
gavagiJeT, paolo iaSvils Tavi<br />
movakvlevineT, javaxiSvili _<br />
davxvriteT, tician tabiZe _<br />
gzaSi davkargeT, galaktioni _<br />
gadmovafrineT. Wabua amirejibs<br />
xelisguli avafareT, viTom ar<br />
aris. am uaxloes wlebSi ramdenime<br />
Cvenma Tanamedrove mweralma<br />
moikla Tavi. ra ioli<br />
saTqmelia, ramdenime mweralma!<br />
aseTia dReis-dRe da dReis qar-<br />
Tvelebi, dReis mTavroba-xelisufleba.<br />
mweralTa kavSiri davarbieT.<br />
TavianTi saxlidan<br />
mwerlebi gamovdevneT. aRmaSeneblis<br />
Zegli gadavadgileT jariskacTa<br />
saxsovari monumenti<br />
_ avafeTqeT. ra CamoTvlis!<br />
ase mgonia, cxonebuli<br />
guram fanjikiZe<br />
didad gulnatkeni wavida<br />
Cvengan. igi mTeli<br />
Cveni cxovrebis maraqaSi<br />
eria. Jurnalisti<br />
iyo, publicisti iyo,<br />
mwerali iyo, gazeTis<br />
redaqtori iyo. wignis<br />
gamomcemeli iyo,<br />
mweralTa kavSiris<br />
mesveuri iyo. yvelaferi<br />
daviviwyeT. gulnakluli<br />
wavida da iqac<br />
ki, ase mgonia, iqac ki<br />
gulnaklulia.<br />
erTi nugeSi imaSia, rom<br />
mwerali sul ar kvdeba. midis,<br />
magram ar midis. wavida. magram<br />
isev brundeba. vinc ver wava,<br />
verc dabrundeba.<br />
da me vesaubrebi, vkiTxulob<br />
guram fanjikiZes, man es ar<br />
icis, magram `asea es!~ wigns vesaubrebi,<br />
kaci iyo da wigni<br />
gaxda. `wigns gitoveb~, daibara<br />
simon Ciqovanma. wigni xelis axlos<br />
midevs. gunebisamebr gadav-<br />
Sli da vkiTxulob. roca minda,<br />
maSin gadavSli da maSin<br />
vkiTxulob. es arc kompiuteria<br />
da arc interneti. wignis denis<br />
gaTiSva SeuZlebelia. wigni melaparakeba.<br />
ese igi mwerali aq<br />
aris. igi Cveni Zma da megobaria...<br />
Cveni morali Tanamedrove<br />
anu: Tvali patiosani.<br />
am sami aTeuli wlis winaT<br />
vTargmne da gamoveci ivan buninis<br />
leqsebis krebuli. guramma<br />
wigni xelSi daiWira da mkiTxa:<br />
`bunini Tu Cexovi~ ratom mekiTxebi-meTqi<br />
da aseTi magali-<br />
Ti moiyvana: `erTxelac, bunini<br />
da Cexovi qalaqgareT gaemarTnen.<br />
Sevidnen erT-erT funduk-<br />
Si, dasxdnen da miaCerdnen, vidres<br />
sufras gauwyobdnen, garemo<br />
suraTebs, meetle icdis. buninma,<br />
sxvaTa Soris, ikiTxa, anton<br />
pavloviC, SegiZliaT Tu<br />
ara _ miTxraT, me axla raze<br />
vfiqrobo. Cexovma dauyovnebliv<br />
upasuxa, ra didi mixvedra unda,<br />
Sen axla ivan aleqseeviC,<br />
imaze fiqrob, meetles fuls<br />
vin gadauxdiso~.<br />
guramma is magaliTi imitom<br />
moitana, raTa erTmaneTisTvis<br />
Seedarebina bunebisa da gunebis<br />
mwerali.<br />
`Tqven, eZebT damna-<br />
Saves me veZeb mtrebs~<br />
(guram fanjikiZe).<br />
gurami, rogorc wesi, bunebis<br />
suraTebs naklebad aRwers.<br />
Tabaxis manZilze meti Reri<br />
sityvac araa naxsenebi garemos<br />
suraTebi. gurams ainteresebs,<br />
Tu ras fiqrobs adamiani da ara<br />
is, Tu ras ambobs... ainteresebs<br />
adamianis fsiqika, misi Sinamobuneba-guneba-anTropologia.<br />
`arCil gordeli.<br />
es saxeli<br />
da gvari, realuris<br />
sapirispirod,<br />
vfiqrob,<br />
gacilebiT kargad<br />
gamoxatavs<br />
mis pretenziulobasac~...<br />
ranairi codna gamosWvivis<br />
am gamonaTqvamSi:<br />
an kidev:<br />
`xSirad, intonacia<br />
ufro<br />
met qveteqsts<br />
Seicavs, vidre,<br />
Tundac, dawvrilebiT<br />
da sainteresod<br />
moyolili<br />
ambavi~.<br />
an kidev:<br />
`vin icis, Tavis mokvlis<br />
win mec rom gavexsenebina,<br />
iqneb momsvloda<br />
kidec ubedurebis<br />
signali!~<br />
ase ambobs Tanamedrove, qar-<br />
Tuli fsiqologiuri romanis<br />
ostati, rasac Cven, Zvirfaso<br />
mkiTxvelo, an gavigebT, an ara<br />
_ (an-an), magram mwerliseuli<br />
sxva mravali gamonaTqvami da<br />
dakvirvebani ara Tu Cven, mkiTxvelebs,<br />
Tavad avtorsac aRemateba<br />
da aqedan gamomdinare, gaqroba<br />
ar uweria.<br />
murman jguburia
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