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ierTobebi? raSi gvexmareba? ra<br />

axali praqtika da programebi<br />

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SemiZlia dagisaxeloT ombudsmenTa<br />

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ganmavlobaSi ganaxorciela.<br />

zogadad, ombudsmenis institutebs<br />

garkveul klasifikacias ani-<br />

Weben, statusebs aZleven da Cven<br />

umaRlesi statusi gvaqvs. es niSnavs<br />

profesionalizms, damoukideblobas,<br />

rom realurad organizacia<br />

srulyofilad asrulebs<br />

im valdebulebebs da rac mTavaria,<br />

es statusi wlebia, gvaqvs, rac<br />

gvexmareba, Tavi warmovadginoT<br />

bevr saerTaSroiso forumze, konferenciaze<br />

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mobT?<br />

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romelic saqarTvelos xelisuflebas<br />

ar aRusrulebia. magali-<br />

Tad, kompensacia aris gacemuli,<br />

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mdgomareobasTan dakavSirebiT<br />

ramdenjerme komunikacia<br />

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aRdgenis Sansi meqneba.<br />

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rom realurad organizacia<br />

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ar gvaqvs adgili.<br />

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Senobis avariulobis faqtoria.<br />

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gexmarebian da saxalxo damcvels<br />

dRes sakuTari Senoba ar gaaCnia.<br />

_ zogierTi struqtura mzad<br />

aris, dagvexmaros da CvenTan aqtiurad<br />

iTanamSromlos, magram<br />

aris ramdenime uwyeba, romelic<br />

imis gamo, rom Cveni kritika maT-<br />

Tvis miuRebelia, ukve TanamSromlobis<br />

formazec aisaxeba. mokled,<br />

samarTaldamcveli uwyebebi<br />

ar „gvwyaloben”.<br />

_ Zneli warmosadgeni ar aris,<br />

romeli uwyebebic igulisxmeba _<br />

savaraudod, samarTaldamcveli<br />

_ Sss da prokuratura. batono<br />

uCa, Tqvengan didi vaJkacobaa am-<br />

is Tqma.<br />

_ me var uflebadamcveli. kanonis<br />

winaSe yvela Tanasworia, adamianis<br />

uflebebi ki _ uzenaesi.<br />

_ es xels xom ar SegiSliT mo-<br />

mavali ombudsmenis arCevnebSi?<br />

samomavlo gegmebze gekiTxebiT...<br />

_ kanoniT yvela saparlamento<br />

fraqcias SeuZlia waradginos kandidati.<br />

oficialurad amaze saubari<br />

jer ar dawyebula da Cemi uflebamosilebis<br />

vada 7 dekembramdea.<br />

_ anu samomavlo gegmebze jer<br />

ver gvetyviT?<br />

_ jer ar vici, sad rogor viqnebi.<br />

yovel SemTxvevaSi, adamianis<br />

uflebebis sferoSi kidev Zalian<br />

bevri ram aris gasakeTebeli. mere<br />

ra, rom bevrs ar movwonvarT imitom,<br />

rom principulebi da obieqturebi<br />

viyaviT, gansakuTrebiT im<br />

saxelmwifo organoebis mimarT,<br />

sadac sistemuri problemebia.<br />

gancxadebebic imitom modis, ZiriTadad,<br />

iqidan: prokuraturidan,<br />

Sinagan saqmeTa saministrodan, sasamarTlodan<br />

da a. S. gasul wels<br />

CvenTan saCivris 8 800 gancxadeba<br />

Semovida, rac imas niSnavs, rom wina<br />

wlebTan SedarebiT dinamika izrdeba.<br />

_ batono uCa, Cven, albaT, bev-<br />

ri gveqneba amis garSemo sasaub-<br />

ro, magram amjerad minda, saqa-<br />

rTveloSi mcxovrebi eTnikuri<br />

umciresobebis sakiTxs Sevexo.<br />

kerZod,<br />

im eTnikur jgufebs, ro-<br />

mlebic sazogadoebis yuradReb-<br />

is centrSi SedarebiT naklebad<br />

eqcevian. boSebiT daviwyoT...<br />

_ ki batono. aq mTeli rigi problemebia,<br />

romelsac boSebi yoveldRiur<br />

cxovrebaSi awydebian.<br />

pirvel rigSi, piradobis mowmobebis<br />

arqona. marTalia, es problema<br />

nawilobriv mogvarda da Cveni<br />

rekomendaciebis safuZvelze,<br />

bolo wlebSi, ramdenime aTeuli<br />

boSa daregistrirda da maT piradoba<br />

miiRes. es pozitiuri faqtia,<br />

magram miuxedavad amisa, problema<br />

sanaxevrodac ar aris gadawyvetili.<br />

_ boSebi TviTon ar mimarTavd-<br />

nen saregistracio organoebs,<br />

Tu mimarTavdnen da ar aZlevd-<br />

nen?<br />

_ aq cota rTulad aris saqme.<br />

iciT, TviTon ar sWirdebodaT da,<br />

Sesabamisad, mcdelobac ar yofila,<br />

rom miemarTaT. bolo period-<br />

Si iusticiis saministros proaqtiuri<br />

mcdeloba hqonda maTi daregistrirebis,<br />

romelic, cnobisTvis,<br />

isev gavimeoreb, Cveni rekomendacia<br />

gaxldaT wlebis ganmavlobaSi.<br />

Tumca problema mainc<br />

problemad rCeba. Tavad am eTnikuri<br />

jgufis mentalobidan da cxovrebis<br />

wesidan gamomdinare, piradobis<br />

mowmobis aRebis saWiroe-<br />

4 N37 (214) 7.11-13.11.2017 w.

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