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#24 (208), 23-29.V, 2012 w.<br />
vesaubrebiT eqqsperts kavkasiis<br />
sakiTxebSi mamuka areSiZes<br />
_ ratom wamoiwia daviT garejis<br />
problematikam dRes? rogor xedavT<br />
procesis ganviTarebas, maSin, rodesac<br />
sagareo saqmeTa da kulturis<br />
saministros gancxadebebi garejs<br />
azerbaijanul teriatorias miakuTvnebs,<br />
”winaaRmdegobis moZraobam” ki<br />
permanentuli saprotesto aqciebis<br />
Sesaxeb iniciativa gaaJRera?<br />
_ aseTi azri mec momivida da<br />
`kavkasiis” eTeriT visaubre mgonia,<br />
rom stabiluri protestis forma<br />
aucilebelia, miT ufro, rodesac<br />
qarTuli sazogadoebis axalgazrdobis<br />
garkveulma nawilma miiRo<br />
agresiuli forma. CemTvis es araa<br />
rigiTi faqti, es erTgvari testirebaa<br />
qarTuli sazogadoebisaTvis,<br />
Tu ramdenad gaimeorebs 90-iani<br />
wlebis anti-afxazur da anti-osur<br />
aqtivobebs, rasac sayofacxovrebo<br />
doneze eTnikuri dapirispireba mohyva.<br />
am movleniT unda gadafaron is<br />
sxva mniSvnelovani procesi, romlis<br />
monawilec qarTuli sazogadoebaa.<br />
aRsaniSnavia, rom 30 maisis<br />
daviT-garejis xsenebis dRea, Sesabamisad,<br />
movlenaTa ganviTarebis piki<br />
unda yofiliyo 30 maiss, rogorc<br />
amas mavani varaudobs.<br />
_ aris varaudebi, rom xelisuflebam<br />
garejis mimdebare teritoria<br />
raRacis sanacvlod dasTmo,<br />
sxva versiiT - gayida...<br />
_ am mosazrebaSi eWvi mepareba,<br />
radgan azerbaijani ar damalavda<br />
xelmoweril dokuments, ityoda<br />
amis Sesaxeb. sul mcire, SeiZleba,<br />
raRac winaSeTanxmebismagvari iyos<br />
xelmowerili. rac Seexeba xmebSi<br />
gacvlas, ar meCveneba absolutur<br />
Temad. azerbaijanis mosaxleoba naklebad<br />
fiqrobs am Temaze. saqarTvelos<br />
azerbaijanelebi ki asruleben<br />
miTiTebebs baqodan, magram dRes es<br />
naklebad savaraudoa, radgan bevri<br />
maTgani ganawyenebulia oficialuri<br />
baqos politikiT, radgan bevri<br />
azerbaijaneli saqarTvelos moqalaqe<br />
gamouSves mSeneblobebidan, im<br />
motiviT, rom sakuTari moqalaqeebi<br />
hyavT dausaqmeblebi.<br />
_ ramdenad emuqreba ori qveynis<br />
keTilmezoblur urTierTobas seriozuli<br />
safrTxe?<br />
_ zustad es aris gamiznuli.procesis<br />
ganviTareba damokidebulia<br />
imaze, Tu rogor gauZlebs<br />
qarTuli sazogadoeba am gamowvevas.<br />
yvelaferi gakeTda opoziciisa<br />
da sazogadoebis mxridan,<br />
rom es xifaTi Tavidan aviciloT,<br />
rom dapirispireba movlenaSi ar<br />
gadaizardos. mTavari damnaSave am<br />
situaciaSi xelisuflebaa, rogorc<br />
axlandeli, ise wina welic,<br />
da ara mxolod azerbaijani, radgan<br />
upatrono eklesias eSmakebi<br />
epatronebiano. azerbaijani<br />
sakuTari qveynis interesebs<br />
icavs. Cven _ Cvenis mxriv,<br />
rac gasakicxia, unda gavkicxoT,<br />
magaliTad efemeruli<br />
albanuri Tema. magram,<br />
mTavari isaa, rom es yvelaferi<br />
specialurad dagegmili<br />
procesia.<br />
_ Tu xedavT kavSiris rabaTisa<br />
da azizies meCeTis<br />
mSeneblobebTan?<br />
_ rabaTis mSeneblobisas,<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom erT<br />
konteqstSi ganixileba azizies me-<br />
CeTTan, Turquli gavlena ar aris<br />
dominanturi. aWaraSi sxva mdgomareobaa.TurqeTi<br />
mas Tavis teritoriad<br />
Tvlis, baTumis aeroporti<br />
Sida aeroportad iTvleba. garejis<br />
faqtiT sxva faqtebi gadaifara, amasobaSi<br />
baTumSi simbolur erT larad<br />
gayidul iunkerebis saflavze<br />
Turquli kompania mSeneblobas<br />
iwyebs. qarTulma sazogadoebam ver<br />
moaswro am faqtze reagireba. bunebrivia,<br />
Cndeba kiTxva, risTvis<br />
sWirdebaT dapirispireba arCevnebamde?<br />
ori variantia, an sxva Zala arsebobs<br />
_ CrdiloeTiT an samxreTiT<br />
da saqarTvelos xelisufleba azrze<br />
ar aris, an meore _ saqarTvelos<br />
xelisuflebas awyobs, mar-<br />
Tavdes qaouri situaciis Seqmnas,<br />
faruli dapirispirebiT SeiZleba<br />
sazogadoebrivi azris marTva. fiarteqnologiebSi<br />
stresul mdgomareobaSi<br />
sazogadoebis marTva aprobirebulia<br />
bevr qveyanaSi. SesaZlebelia<br />
bevri sxva sakiTxi gadaifaros,<br />
stresis mizezi Caaqro.., sazogadoebam<br />
agvistos omi ”Wama”, garejsac<br />
gadaatanineben.<br />
_ rusuli mediiT gavrcelda<br />
informacia somxeTis mier saqarTvelos<br />
rkinigzis SeZenis Sesaxeb. ras<br />
moutans es Cvens qveyanas?<br />
_ rkinigzasTan dakavSirebiT xelisufleba<br />
ambobs, rom 25 % s<br />
hyidis da es ver iqneba sakontrolo<br />
paketi. erTi SexedviT, es gancxadeba<br />
logikuria. saqarTvelosrkinigzis<br />
SemadgenlobaSia afxaze-<br />
Tis rkinigza, romelsac ruseTi<br />
akontrolebs.ruseTis mTavari amocanaa<br />
samxreT kavkasiis kontrolisaTvis<br />
am rkinigzis aRdgena uaxloes<br />
perspeqtivaSi. somxeTma saku-<br />
Tari rkinigza ruseTis sarkinigzo<br />
sistemis Svilobil kompanias mihyida.<br />
savaraudod, 2015 wlisaTvis,<br />
rkinigza SeiZleba evropaSi ganTavsebuli<br />
wvrili rusuli firmebis<br />
mier iqnas SeZenili.<br />
_ ruseTis prezidenti mesamed<br />
mosvlisTanave afxazeTis da cxinvalis<br />
de-faqto prezidentebs Sexvda.<br />
_ amaSi gansakuTrebuls arafers<br />
vxedav, ruseTis federaciis<br />
axali prezidenti gagvaocebs momavali<br />
saprezidento vadis sakvanZo<br />
momentebis prezentaciebiT. es aris<br />
ruseTis gavlenis gazrda samxreT<br />
kavkasiaSi, orive respublikas Tavisi<br />
adgili aqvs evraziis kavSiris<br />
proeqtSi. es Sexvedra dasavleTisaTvis<br />
gamiznuli mesiji iyo maSin,<br />
rodesac kavkasiis regionze damokles<br />
maxviliviT hkidia iranis omis<br />
safrTxe, sazRvrebis cvlilebebis<br />
safrTxe realuria. dRes samxreT<br />
kavkasiaze ramdenime mxare acxadebs<br />
pretenzias, TurqeTs Tavisi, damo-<br />
mamuka areSiZe:<br />
daviTgarejis Temis<br />
wamoweva specialurad<br />
dagegmili procesia<br />
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />
internetSi<br />
www.saertogazeti.ge<br />
SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />
ukidebeli politika aqvs, mas ar<br />
aRelvebs, ras fiqrobs dasavleTi<br />
an ruseTi. aRsaniSnavia, rom agvistos<br />
omis periodSi pirvelad Seejaxa<br />
ruseTis da TurqeTis interesebi<br />
kavkasiaSi, miuxedavad 40 milioniani<br />
tvirTbrunvisa. politika<br />
sxva ramea. daswrebazea, msxvili<br />
moTamaSeebi rogor gamoiyeneben situacias.<br />
Cven ki dakavebuli varT<br />
Sida politikuri garCevebiT. nazarbaevma<br />
imdeni qna, rom yazaxeTi<br />
nel-nela CineTis gavlenis qveS eqceva,<br />
rac danarCen moTamaSeebs ar<br />
awyobT. brZola midis Sua aziisa<br />
da kavkasiisaTvis. mTavaria azerbaijanis<br />
gaCereba, is rom iyos damjeri,<br />
unda gadavuketoT energo - matareblebis<br />
gavrcelebis areali...<br />
_ maSin xom Cvenc davzaraldebiT?<br />
_ Cveni teritoriis gavliT unda<br />
gadavuketoT, Cveni meSveobiT<br />
unda moxdes es. azerbaijans 25 miliardiani<br />
sarezervo fondi aqvs.<br />
Tuki damjeri iqneba, maSin energoresursebis<br />
gasaRebi iqneba ruse-<br />
Tis, TurqeTis an dasavleTis kontrolis<br />
qveS.<br />
_ rogorc Cans, qveynis momavali<br />
da Seqmnili mdgomareoba mxolod<br />
saqarTvelos xelisuflebaze<br />
ar yofila damokidebuli...<br />
_ samwuxarod, xelisuflebam<br />
iseT mdgomareobaSi Caigdo Tavi,<br />
rom arc regionul politikaSi da<br />
arc geopolitikaSi, aRar eTqmis<br />
araferi.<br />
_ batono mamuka, ras niSnavs<br />
qveynisTvis wlevandeli 27 maisi?<br />
_ es dRe xalxis konsolidaciis<br />
TvalsazrisiT mniSvnelovani TariRia.<br />
warmodigineT, ra moxdeboda<br />
am dRisaTvis qarTul-azerbaijanuli<br />
dapirispirebis Canafiqri rom<br />
ganxorcielebuliyo. mTavaria, rom<br />
am dRes unda gaJRerdes erovnulsaxelmwifoebrivi<br />
ideologiis mesijebi<br />
saqarTvelos yvela moqalaqisadmi.<br />
nino fircxalava<br />
saerTo gazeTi<br />
2011 wlis<br />
tragikuli<br />
26 maisi<br />
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