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21Com. Charles Maranga: Thank you Swa Mak’Aduol. I want to correct that. Thanks alot. I know she has some questions,but let me start with the last one here, Cannabis Sativa. You know that this is a very intoxicating plant and it has destroyedmany people, because it does not put you in the right state <strong>of</strong> mind. You want that kind <strong>of</strong> product, which has actually not evenbeen made into a medicinal form. You want to grow that kind <strong>of</strong> crop?Odhiambo Mak’Adoul: Thank you Commissioner, that is the only question you have?Com. Charles Maranga: No, I have another one, and the other point you said you said we lelagize busaaa. Why do youthink it is right to legalize busaaa?Odhiambo Mak’Adoul: Yah, I will start with Sativa. You’ve said it destroys people. It is people who go for it, not that plantgoing for the people. So if people use it to the extent that a person gets destroyed, somehow, I don’t know to what extent, butI know briefly. It is that person who is wrong. The other point is this, Sativa, culturally, that seed alone, there is this beliefsuperstition, that we have ghosts around. The Waisilamu and and the Christians use what we call ubani ku-burn to destroy.Yes. Sativa seeds well burnt in a house <strong>of</strong> such a suspicion, it will act like that whatever.Interjection: Com. Maranga: Which custom is that?Odhiambo Mak’Adoul: That is our African belief. (laughter)Com. Charles Maranga: She is asking you another question.Odhiambo Mak’Adoul: The other point is.Com. Charles Maranga: It is alright you will answer it later, ask the questions first.Com. Abida Ali-Aroni: I want to ask you a clarification on your point about ‘locas standi’ You have recommended CivilSociety, to be recognized to when they take cases on behalf <strong>of</strong> people. Would you wish to extend it further and say that if anindividual sees another one suffering, that the law should allow that individual to go to Court on behalf <strong>of</strong> the other, other thanCivil Society alone? It happens elsewhere like in Uganda.Odhiambo Mak’Adoul: Thank you Madam Commissioner. Infact, you have just mentioned the point. I hope you got it.You’ve just mentioned the point, so there is no need to add, that if I see you for instance, being aggrieved somewhere, and Ihave the capability or finance or I have the knowledge, you don’t have in other ways also. Let the Constitution allow me totake your mother to Court purporting that I am you, because we are all human beings and I will be allowed to be heard on your

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