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wavlob, es ki TandaTan saSualebas<br />
maZlevs, ukeTesi gavxde. TviTganviTarebaze<br />
var orientirebuli,<br />
_ saxaliso azartuli Tama-<br />
SiviTaa, ajobo sakuTar Tavs.<br />
_ vin genatreba yvelaze met-<br />
ad?<br />
_ mama, swored is iyo Cemi mTavari<br />
mrCeveli, mesaidumle, motivatori<br />
da Zalian maklia misi Seqeba,<br />
mxardaWera. xandaxan mgonia,<br />
rom Zalian ususuri var, radgan<br />
misi emociuri, upirobo mxardaWera<br />
maklia. gulis siRrmeSi mainc<br />
vcdilob, ise moviqce, rogorc mas<br />
gauxardeboda da iamayebda CemiT.<br />
Zalian miWirs amaze mSvidad saubari,<br />
usazRvrod miyvars, menatreba<br />
da ver vexutebi, ver velaparakebi.<br />
_ Seni azriT, Tavisufali xar?<br />
_ diax, radgan fufuneba maqvs,<br />
viyo iseTi, rogoric var da viyo<br />
sruliad gulwrfeli yvelasTan.<br />
me me var, aravis vbaZav, yovelTvis<br />
ubralo da uSualo var.<br />
_ cxovrebis ra etapze xar ax-<br />
la?<br />
_ mgonia, rom mxolod axla „viqoqebi”<br />
da ufro saintereso da<br />
mniSvnelovani gamowvevebi, siaxleebi<br />
melodeba win.<br />
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_ ki, xandaxan vkargav xolme,<br />
mere veZeb, vpoulob, vaumjobeseb...<br />
da isev veZeb.<br />
_ rogor ggonia, adamianebs<br />
TavianTi misia aqvT?<br />
_ vfiqrob, Tu adamiani saku-<br />
Tar TavSi imden Zalasa da energias<br />
poulobs, rom globalur<br />
Temebze imsjelos, guli Sestkiodes<br />
sxvaze da reformatoruli<br />
ideebi uCndebodes, man aucileblad<br />
unda ipovos sakuTari mimarTuleba<br />
sazogadoebis sakeTildReod.<br />
Cven yvelas Segvwevs unari,<br />
garkveuli sargebeli movutanoT<br />
Tanamedroveobas Tu kacobriobas...<br />
gansakuTrebul Zalas maSin<br />
vgrZnob, rodesac adamianebs vexmarebi.<br />
SeiZleba, Tavad orjer<br />
meti problema mqondes, an depresias<br />
vebrZode, magram rodesac<br />
sxvas uWirs, rodesac SemiZlia,<br />
raRaciT daxmareba, moraluri<br />
mxardaWera, rCevis micema, depresiidan<br />
gamoyvana, am SesaZleblobas<br />
xelidan ar vuSveb. araferia<br />
imaze sasiamovno, roca SegiZlia,<br />
sxvebi gaabedniero.<br />
ai, maSin vgrZnob uzarmazar,<br />
miZinebul Zalas sakuTar TavSi da<br />
mgonia, rom raRac ufro didi misia<br />
maqvs, vidre warmomidgenia,<br />
magram jer bolomde ver vxvdebi.<br />
_ gaqvs Tu ara warmatebis miR-<br />
wevis Sansi dRevandel saqarTv-<br />
eloSi?<br />
_ bavSvobidan iseTi qar-cecxli<br />
gamoviare, rom rTulia, rame<br />
saxis problemiT gamakvirvo, an<br />
SemaSino, mainc vipovi gamosavals,<br />
mainc vnaxav gzas. vinc eZebs, is poulobs,<br />
me veZeb, e. i. unda vipovo!<br />
_ gaqvs iseTi principi, rasac<br />
arasdros uRalateb?<br />
_ ar vuRalateb megobarsa da<br />
sayvarel adamians! usamarTlod<br />
veravis gavwirav! aravis ndobas ar<br />
gamoviyeneb borotad da zurgSi<br />
danas aravis Cavartyam! fulis<br />
gamo yvelafers ar vikadreb! sam-<br />
Soblos ver vuRalateb! yovel-<br />
Tvis ubralo viqnebi!<br />
_ sayvareli gamonaTqvami, ra-<br />
sac yvelaze xSirad iyeneb xolme.<br />
_ „nu elodebiT saocrebas, Tavad<br />
gaxdiT saocreba!” _ nik vuiCi-<br />
Cis frazaa, adamianis, romelic<br />
kidurebis gareSe daibada da sxva<br />
avadmyofebs werilebs swers<br />
fsiqologiuri daxmarebis gasawevad.<br />
igi msoflio oratori da<br />
sulieri siZlieris magaliTia.<br />
_ ra iqneba Seni gzavnili sa-<br />
zogadoebisTvis?<br />
_ cxovreba Zalian xanmoklea<br />
imisTvis, rom mowyenilebma da<br />
dabRverilebma viaroT da ZaliT<br />
gavarTuloT viTareba. gaviRimoT,<br />
davexmaroT erTmaneTs, viyoT<br />
keTilebi, SevumsubuqoT gverdiT<br />
myofebs sicocxle! TiToeul<br />
Cvengans SeuZlia, uamravi adamiani<br />
gaabednieros!<br />
scadeT, yoveldRe erTi adamiani<br />
gaamxiaruloT, gaaxaroT da<br />
tkbili sityva uTxraT! mere Cveva-<br />
Si gadagivaT da Tqvenve gagikvirdebaT,<br />
ramxela dadebiTi muxti<br />
daisadgurebs TqvenSi! Cven<br />
yovelTvis ufro meti SegviZlia,<br />
vidre gvgonia, es unda gvaxsovdes<br />
da, pirvel rigSi, sakuTari Tavis<br />
siyvaruli viswavloT... aseve viswavloT<br />
sxvisi sixaruliT, warmatebiT<br />
gaxareba! bedniereba<br />
wvrilmanebSia, bedniereba Cven-<br />
Sia!<br />
qarTul politikur cxovrebas politbeladebi klaven, anu<br />
damarcxdi? - wadi!..<br />
`Tanamedrove qarTuli<br />
saxelmwifos istoriaSi TiTqmis<br />
ar moiZebneba faqti, rodesac<br />
SegviZlia apelireba movaxdinoT<br />
politikosTa pasuxismgeblobis<br />
magaliTze, garda erTi<br />
SemTxvevisa - 2007 wlis 7<br />
noembris movlenebis Semdeg<br />
saqarTvelos prezidenti, mixeil<br />
saakaSvili, Tanamdebobidan<br />
gadadga. sxva analogiuri saxis<br />
pasuxismgebliani aqti qarTul<br />
politikaSi araTu<br />
prezidentebis, aramed<br />
politikuri Tanamdebobis<br />
pirebis mxridan Zneli<br />
warmosadgenia~<br />
28-e gverdidan<br />
swored Sidapartiuli avtoritarizmi,<br />
liderTa enaze _ maTi<br />
maRali avtoriteti da, Turme,<br />
Sidapartiuli, ukidegano reitingi,<br />
romelic am lider-beladebs<br />
sakuTar postebze abetonebs,<br />
klavs politikur cxovrebas.<br />
kidev erTi magaliTi ganvixiloT:<br />
mexuTe arCevnebia, „erTiani<br />
nacionaluri moZraoba” saarCevno<br />
bataliebidan damarcxebuli gamodis.<br />
partia, romlis liderebi acxadeben,<br />
rom isini qarTul politikaSi<br />
civilizebul, dasavlur<br />
standartebs amkvidreben _ srul<br />
stagnaciaSia. dRes imaze saubari,<br />
rom arCevnebi gaayalbes, maSin,<br />
rodesac arCevnebis win partia „imuqreboda”,<br />
aravis miscemda gayalbebis<br />
uflebas da saubari iyo qmediT<br />
RonisZiebebze, Cxubis Semdeg<br />
xelebis qnevas ufro hgavs da liderTa<br />
TviTgamarTlebis mcdelobas,<br />
vidre pasuxismgeblobis mqone<br />
politikuri partiis adekvatur<br />
qmedebas. ara, aravin daobs imaze,<br />
rom opoziciam samarTlebrivad<br />
da, zogadad, yvela meTodiT unda<br />
ibrZolos gamarjvebisTvis. aq saubaria<br />
pasuxismgeblobaze _ dasaxuli<br />
miznis miuRwevlobisa da Tundac,<br />
miznebis gansaxorcieleblad<br />
aucilebeli taqtikuri gadawyvetilebebis<br />
simcdareze, Secdomebze.<br />
damarcxebis Semdeg ki tradiciul<br />
N38 (215) 14.11-20.11.2017 w.<br />
gadabralebis politikaze.<br />
da mainc, Tu „nacionalur mo-<br />
Zraobas” ganvixilavT, rogorc pasuxismgeblian<br />
politikur Zalas,<br />
maSin mis mimarTac arsebobs kiTxva,<br />
_ sad Cans liderebis pasuxismgebloba<br />
sakuTari Tanagundelebisa<br />
da mxardamWerebis winaSe? samarTlebliv<br />
brZolas sulac ar<br />
sWirdeba konkretuli lideris<br />
postze yofna _ partias Sesabamisi<br />
struqturebi aqvs. aq kiTxvaa mTavari,<br />
_ liderebi ratom ar iReben<br />
sakuTar Tavze pasuxismgeblobas?<br />
ratom ar ambobs batoni melia, rom<br />
man ver gaamarTla partiis ndoba<br />
da ar akeTebs gancxadebas gadadgomis<br />
Sesaxeb? masTan erTad, ratom<br />
arian gamagrebulni partiul<br />
postebze is adamianebi, romlebic<br />
gegmavdnen da warmarTvdnen arCevnebs?<br />
mavani ikiTxavs, _ ratom movaxdine<br />
yuradRebis koncentracia<br />
„erTian nacionalur moZraobaze?”...<br />
mizezi Zalian martivia _<br />
partiis reitingi dRiTi dRe ecema<br />
da is verafers axals ver sTavazobs<br />
mosaxleobas, amomrCevels. is,<br />
rom odesme viRac situaciiT isargeblebs<br />
da SesaZloa, 2030 wels xelisufleba<br />
Seicvalos, sulac ar<br />
niSnavs imas, rom, maincdamainc, melia<br />
iqneba am cvlilebis generatori<br />
da qveynis momavali premieri.<br />
politikurad ki, rodesac<br />
opozicia gamudmebiT ukiJinebs<br />
xelisuflebas calkeuli gadawyvetilebebis<br />
Sesaxeb pasuxismgeblobaze,<br />
swored mas unda esmodes,<br />
pirvel rigSi, am pasuxismgeblobis<br />
arsi da dgamdes pasuxismgeblobiT<br />
aRsavse nabijebs.<br />
da bolos, politikosebs unda<br />
esmodeT, rom maTi reitingebis<br />
mzomavi xalxia da ara romelime mediasaSualeba,<br />
sadac mas iwveven, an<br />
saerTaSoriso organizaciis warmomadgeneli,<br />
romelic maT xvdeba.<br />
marTalia, xalxi naklebad fiqrobs<br />
partiebisa da maTi liderebis<br />
pasuxismgeblobaze, magram uneburad<br />
aTviTcnobierebs, rom<br />
„dalpa raRac daniis samefoSi”. es<br />
mmarTvel partiasac exeba da opoziciasac,<br />
romelmac sworad unda<br />
gaiazros, Tu ratom zis saxlSi<br />
imaze meti amomrCeveli, vidre ir-<br />
Cevs?<br />
da Tu am qveyanas winsvla uweria,<br />
is mainc pasuxismgeblobam<br />
unda gansazRvros, unda dasruldes<br />
opoziciuri lider-beladebis<br />
xana da yoveli arCevnebis Semdeg<br />
warumateblebi saxlebSi wavidnen.<br />
es aris procesis gajansaRebis<br />
martivi gasaRebi. swored am SemTxvevaSi<br />
aris SesaZlebeli ideebis<br />
daaxloeba, partiebis gamsxvileba<br />
da axali gaerTianebebis Seqmna.<br />
swored pasuxismgeblobiT aris<br />
SesaZlebeli, gnebavT, saerTo saxalxo-moZraobis<br />
Camoyalibebac,<br />
romelsac win ver aRudgeba xmis<br />
momparavi da gamyalbebeli saar-<br />
Cevno komisiis ugunuri wevri. es<br />
procesi sWirdeba saqarTvelos _<br />
xelisuflebas gasaRviZeblad da<br />
opozicias _ gamarjvebis misaRwevad.<br />
sxva SemTxvevaSi Cven, isev da<br />
isev, im wreze unda viaroT, sadac<br />
patara beladebi did beladebad<br />
gaxdomas lamoben, xolo qveyana da<br />
Cemi, Tqveni _ xalxis keTildReoba<br />
da warmateba aravis ainteresebs.<br />
diax, mec sruli pasuxismgeblobiT<br />
vacxadeb, rom politbeladebi<br />
klaven qarTul politikur cxovrebas<br />
da droa, maT pasuxismgeblobis<br />
standartebis dacva movTxovoT!<br />
`1995 wlidan dRemde, mxolod, 2012 wels<br />
gaimarjva arCevnebSi opoziciam. erTi<br />
gamonaklisic - 2002 wels TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
arCevnebSi opozicia damarcxda, Tumca<br />
Tbilisis sakrebuloSi umravlesoba<br />
leiboristebma moipoves. albaT, gaxsovT, maSin<br />
Salva naTelaSvilma, faqtobrivad, gaSlili<br />
sufra dauTmo mixeil saakaSvils~<br />
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