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Tsu neli moqmedebis<br />
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axiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis<br />
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saxelmwifo universitetSi mim-<br />
dinare movlenebis gaSuqebas,<br />
romelic amjerad ara studentobis protestisa da daumor-<br />
Cileblobis aqciebs, aramed bevrad Rrma problemas exeba.<br />
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zis, romelic rodis gaskdeba, aravin icis.<br />
„qronika+~-Tan saubrobs ivane<br />
javaxiSvilis saxelobis univer-<br />
sitetis profesori, kavkasi-<br />
ologiis institutis direqtori<br />
_ cira baramiZe:<br />
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da vakuums ver iguebs. me<br />
ar var arastabilurobis momxre,<br />
magram verc stagnaciis momxre viqnebi.<br />
mTavaria, universitetis<br />
momavlisTvis imis gaanalizeba,<br />
rogor movediT aqamde. Tu Cven<br />
universitetis wesdebebis dinamikas<br />
gadavxedavT, moyolebuli<br />
1918 wlidan dRemde, logikuri<br />
daskvna imgvari iqneba, rom dRes<br />
gansaxilveli wesdeba, iseve rogorc<br />
gzaSi myofi kanonproeqti<br />
umaRlesi ganaTlebis Sesaxeb,<br />
retrogradulia.<br />
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mobT?<br />
_ imas vgulisxmob, rom es aris<br />
ukusvla. Cven, universitetis mar-<br />
Tvis organoebi, xom arc wesdebisa<br />
da arc kanonproeqtis Seqmnis<br />
procesSi, Cvenive uniaTobiT,<br />
monawileobas ver viRebT. Cven mxolod<br />
daTanxmeba gvevaleba.<br />
_ ratom ver iRebT monawile-<br />
obas?<br />
_ universiteti 1918 wels Seiqmna,<br />
rogorc samoqalaqo institucia.<br />
magram sabWoTa wyobis damyarebisTanave<br />
mas damoukidebloba<br />
waarTves da ra mouvida im axalgazrda<br />
saxelmwifos, akvnidanac<br />
rom ver gadmodga fexi, es istoriis<br />
gakveTilebidanac gvaxsovs. mxolod<br />
2011 wels SevZeliT, Tu SegvaZlebines,<br />
damoukideblobis nawilobrivi<br />
ganxorcieleba da imedi<br />
gaCnda imisa, rom saboloo avtonomiurobasac<br />
veRirsebodiT<br />
sabWoTa kavSiris dangrevidan 23<br />
wlis Semdeg.<br />
_ sxvaTa Soris, yvelas gaukvirda<br />
mixeil saakaSvilis es gada-<br />
wyvetileba, universitetisTvis<br />
avtonomia daebrunebina.<br />
_ samagierod, sabWoTa „maxina”<br />
Cvens cnobierebaSi ar dangreula<br />
da wiTel zonas ver gavcdiT. 2011<br />
wlis wesdebaSi xarvezi iyo,<br />
romelsac me maSinve vaprotesdebdi,<br />
magram uSedegod. am uSedegobam<br />
uaryofiTi Sedegi gamoiRo<br />
_ isev ssip-s vubrundebiT. xelisuflebam<br />
erTi xeliT Tavisufleba<br />
mogvca, _ warmomadgenlobiTi<br />
sabWo, meoriT ki lagami amogvdo<br />
regentTa sabWos saxiT. Tumca<br />
iqve, imave muxlis me-6 punqtSi<br />
Cado SesaZlebloba _ sakuTari<br />
Tavis patronebi gavmxdariyaviT<br />
da namdvili sauniversiteto idea<br />
gangvexorcielebina, gangvekarga<br />
Cveni mwiri biujeti da Rataki<br />
qoneba universitetis ganviTarebis<br />
fondis SeqmniT. Cven es Sansic<br />
ver gamoviyeneT da metic: wesdebaSi<br />
70-e muxli davtoveT, romlis<br />
mixedviTac ganvsazRvreT, vis<br />
vaniWebdiT Cveni reorganizaciisa<br />
da likvidaciis uflebas.<br />
_ da vis aqvs, magaliTad, unive-<br />
rsitetis likvidaciis ufleba?<br />
cira baramiZe<br />
_ kanonmdebloba a(a)ipis Sesaxeb<br />
moiTxovs, rom dawesebulebis<br />
wesdebaSi Caiweros, Tu rogor<br />
unda moaxdino reorganizacia da<br />
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ise davtoveT. es yovelive<br />
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gaCumebuli. ai, Seiqmna a(a)ipi da<br />
sxva raRa gvindoda? sinamdvile-<br />
Si, es muxli saxelmwifosTvis politikuri<br />
xasiaTis berketi iyo,<br />
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dro ewureboda. Sesabamisad, saakaSvilis<br />
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mogvca saprezidento vadis amowurvamde<br />
2 wliT adre cxrawliani<br />
mmarTvelobidan.<br />
_ da ratom 2011 wels? manamde<br />
ratom ver gamoimeta?!<br />
_ adre imitom ver gamoimeta,<br />
rom universiteti Tavis politikur<br />
berketad unda daelagebina.<br />
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gauqra, rom universiteti<br />
a(a)ipis SemTxvevaSic aRar iqneboda<br />
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arc maSin yofila iniciativa qvemodan,<br />
es iyo wyaloba zemodan.<br />
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iyo _ sruli Tu ara, nawilo-<br />
brivi avtonomia TiTqmis 100<br />
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_ TiTqos iyo progresi, magram<br />
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swored 70-e muxlis meSveobiT. es<br />
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xelisuflebas saWiroebisamebr<br />
unda aemuSavebina. es rezervic<br />
saTavisod hqonda miCneuli, magram<br />
ver gaTvala, rom politikuri<br />
Zala Seucvleli ar iyo, ar<br />
moeloda, magram moxda is, rac<br />
oqtomberSi moxda, _ „qarTuli<br />
ocneba” movida. Tumca manamde<br />
ukve gazrdili iyo mTavrobisa da<br />
premieris uflebebi. axal xelisufals<br />
gamzadebuli daxvda samarTlebrivi<br />
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iseT axal relsebze gadasayvanad,<br />
romelic misTvis misaRebia<br />
universitetSi axali wesrigis<br />
dasamyareblad.<br />
_ msoflio axali wesrigi gagvigia.<br />
„javaxiSvilSi” axali wes-<br />
rigi ras niSnavs?<br />
_ 2012 wlis oqtombris<br />
arCevnebis Sedegad mosuli axali<br />
xelisuflebisTvis universiteti<br />
arsebuli organizaciul-samarTlebrivi<br />
formiT sando ar iyo,<br />
skandaluri faqtebi<br />
da profesuris<br />
werili ganaTlebis<br />
axal ministrs<br />
`universiteti daarsda rogorc samoqalaqo institucia da arsebobda aseTad, vidre 1925 wels ar mouSTo sabWoTa<br />
saxelmwifom avtonomia. ivane javaxiSvili mTavrobis dadgenilebis winaaRmdeg gamovida da amitomac 1926 wels<br />
gadaayenes reqtorobidan da Semdgom gauSves kidec universitetidan. universiteti mecenatebma daaarses, magram<br />
Cveni avbedobis gamo sabWoTa saxelmwifo Zaladobda masze (vfiqrob, istoriis detalebi gvaxsovs). es grZeldeba<br />
dResac da, erTi mxriv, TiTqos saamayo unda iyos, mas rom saxelmwifo universiteti hqvia, gvinda saxelmwifo<br />
mzrunvelis rolSi warmovidginoT, magram realoba sxvaa~<br />
iqidan gamomdinare, rom maTganve<br />
inicirebulma sakanonmdeblo cvlilebebma<br />
dRis wesrigSi daayena<br />
reqtoris vadamdeli arCevnebi.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom arCevnebSi<br />
winaswar iyo yvelaferi gaTvlili<br />
da, erTi mxriv, TiTqos safrTxe<br />
aRar arsebobda, xelisufalma<br />
Tavis dazRvevis mizniT gamosca<br />
motivaciisa da iniciativis gareSe<br />
retrograduli normatiuli<br />
aqti _ 187-e dadgenileba. axla<br />
agixsniT, ras niSnavda es dadgenileba:<br />
Tu universitetis reqtori<br />
ar gaxdeboda xelisuflebisTvis<br />
misaRebi piri, is mainc unda<br />
damdgariyo reorganizaciis faqtis<br />
winaSe. Sedegad, situacia samarTlebriv<br />
CixSi Sevida. 2013<br />
wels universitets CamoarTves<br />
saakaSvilis mier boZebuli avtonomia<br />
da gviwyalobes ssipi. Tumca<br />
ufals madloba unda vuTxraT,<br />
rom xelisuflebam imave 70-e muxliT<br />
likvidaciis uflebac rom ar<br />
gamoiyena. darwmunebuli var, Cven<br />
masac udrtvinvelad miviRebdiT.<br />
_ es yvelaferi ras niSnavs, rom<br />
xelisuflebis mier gamocemul<br />
dadgenilebaSi arsebobs muxli,<br />
riTac universitetis likvida-<br />
ciac aris SesaZlebeli?<br />
_ universitetSi ar aris Tavisufali<br />
akademiuri sazogadoeba,<br />
amitom protesti arc iyo mosalodneli.<br />
universitetSi studentobac<br />
politikuradaa polarizebuli.<br />
esec momakvdinebelia,<br />
radgan ewinaaRmdegeba sauniversiteto<br />
ideas, samoqalaqo institucias,<br />
progress. universiteti<br />
nebismieri xelisuflisTvis<br />
politikuri instrumentia da<br />
meti araferi. Cven TiTqos gaviareT<br />
arasruli metamorfozi da<br />
srul metamorfozSi gadavediT.<br />
oRond axla Wupris, anu mosvenebis<br />
gansakuTrebuli Sualeduri<br />
stadiis formaSi varT. ar vici,<br />
rodemde, Znelia prognozi. Cemsa<br />
da ufros Taobas qveynis momavalze<br />
pasuxismgebloba rom uWirs,<br />
faqtia. Cven sabWoTa cnobierebis<br />
tyveobidan ver gamovalT. erTaderTi<br />
imedi xsnisa axalgazrdobaa<br />
da amas axla maTTvis vambob,<br />
yurad iRon, raTa uari uTxran<br />
politikur polarizebas, Secvalon<br />
momavali _ Seqmnan, moipovon<br />
universitetis WeSmariti da ara<br />
falsificirebuli avtonomia. es<br />
iqneba Cvens qveyanaSi namdvili samoqalaqo<br />
sazogadoebis mSeneblobis<br />
qvakuTxedi. es sityva da<br />
yvelaferi, razec gesaubreT, 2013<br />
wlis seqtembris warmomadgenlobiTi<br />
sabWos sxdomaze warmovTqvi.<br />
axla ki Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT<br />
pirvelad mivmarTavT ganaTlebis<br />
axal ministrs. Cems werilSi<br />
bevri skandaluri faqtia<br />
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