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da kacobriobis istoriaSi sityvis<br />
saTqmelad.<br />
_ Tu gyavs filmis an wignis<br />
gmiri, romelsac ggonia, rom<br />
hgavxar.<br />
_ Cems cxovrebas Tan dahyveba<br />
Cemi Zlieri gancdebi da emociebi.<br />
zogjer yvavilis danaxvam,<br />
balaxis rxevam, an, ubralod, wvimis<br />
wveTis moZraobam SeiZleba<br />
imxela emociebi da gancdebi dabados<br />
CemSi, rom Tavi sxva sulier<br />
ganzomilebaSi vigrZno, vigrZno<br />
raRac aRmatebuli da Rv-<br />
Taebrivi. Cems cxovrebas es gancdebi<br />
gansazRvravs da rodesac<br />
riunoske akutagavas moTxrobebs,<br />
verner haizenbergis biografias,<br />
an antuan de-sent egziuperis „adamianTa<br />
miwas” vkiTxulob, maT<br />
adgilas mgonia, rom me var, Ti-<br />
Tqos, maTi cxovrebisuli gancdebi<br />
mec gancdili maqvs. am adamianebis<br />
siaxloves vgrZnob da am<br />
mxriv mgonia, rom maT vgavar.<br />
_ vin aris misabaZi magaliTi<br />
SenTvis da ratom?<br />
_ CemTvis misabaZi magaliTi<br />
aris yvela didi qarTvelis da<br />
ucxoeli sazogado moRvawis cxovreba,<br />
romlebic cdilobdnen,<br />
adamianTa sulier, fizikur, an<br />
gonebriv winsvlaSi wvlili SeetanaT.<br />
_ dRes ra problemas xedav im<br />
sferoSi, sadac moRvaweob da,<br />
zogadad, saqarTveloSi?<br />
_ saqarTveloSi fizikis sferoSi,<br />
dResdReobiT, samwuxarod,<br />
bevri seriozuli problemaa. aq<br />
miRebuli ganaTleba sakmarisi ar<br />
aris imisTvis, rom karg specialistad<br />
Camoyalibde, sazRvargareT<br />
miRebuli ganaTlebiT ki aq muSaoba<br />
rTulia, radgan ar gvaqvs kargi<br />
kvleviTi centrebi da laboratoriebi.<br />
zogadad ki saqarTvelo-<br />
Si imdeni problemaa, rom CamoTvla<br />
SeuZlebelia.<br />
_ rogor SeiZleba am proble-<br />
mis mogvareba?<br />
_ amaze bevri ar maqvs nafiqri,<br />
bevri rame ar vici da aseT sakiTxebze<br />
yoveldRe mecvleba da<br />
mexveweba azri, magram dRevandeli<br />
codniT am problemis mogvarebis<br />
or gzas vxedav: I) qarTveli<br />
xalxi, rogorRac, gamofxizldes<br />
da sazogadoebam daiwyos swori<br />
azrovneba; II) saxelmwifos saTaveSi<br />
movides Zalian seriozuli,<br />
diplomati da samSobloze mofiqrali<br />
politikuri elita.<br />
_ rodis isveneb xolme da<br />
rogor?<br />
_ visveneb xolme Rame ZiliT,<br />
sxva dros sul vmecadineob, an<br />
vfiqrob. garToba ar miyvars.<br />
_ vin genatreba yvelaze<br />
metad?<br />
_ miuxedavad imisa, rom arasdros<br />
minaxavs, ratomRac, zogjer<br />
menatreba ori adamiani: isaak niutoni<br />
da ilia WavWavaZe... ubednieresi<br />
viqnebodi, rom axla cocxlebi<br />
iyvnen da maTTan laparakis<br />
SesaZlebloba mqondes.<br />
_ Seni azriT, Tavisufali xar?<br />
_ ara, ar var Tavisufali, radgan<br />
inglisuri ar vici kargad da<br />
bevri mecadineoba miwevs, Cemi<br />
survilisda miuxedavad. es Zalian<br />
mboWavs da ar maZlevs Tavisuflebas.<br />
_ ra aris Tavisufleba<br />
SenTvis?<br />
_ Tavisufleba aris mxolod im<br />
saqmis keTeba, mxolod im garemo-<br />
Si da mxolod im adamianebTan<br />
yofna, romlebic giyvars.<br />
_ cxovrebis ra etapze xar<br />
axla?<br />
_ axla var cxovrebis yvelaze<br />
rTul etapze, radgan mTeli dRe<br />
miwevs inglisuris mecadineoba.<br />
_ sakuTari Tavi napovni gaqvs?<br />
_ ki, sakuTari Tavi namdvilad<br />
napovni maqvs, radgan vici, ra minda.<br />
_ rogor ggonia, adamianebs<br />
TavianTi misia aqvT (Tu ki, ra<br />
aris Seni misia, rogor ggonia?<br />
Tu ara, _ ratom)?<br />
_ adamians ramdenime misia aqvs,<br />
erT-erTi aris biologiuri misia,<br />
anu gamravleba da Tavisi rasis<br />
romelic mudmivad fiqrobs!<br />
gadarCena. amis garda, adamians evaleba<br />
ipovos Tavisi Tavi cxovrebaSi,<br />
Tavisi niWi, Tavisi mizani da<br />
Seasrulos is. dabolos... adamiani<br />
unda zrunavdes sulier winsvlaze,<br />
unda uyvardes adamianebi<br />
da mTlianad samyaro, romelsac<br />
moevlina.<br />
_ risTvisac ibrZvi?<br />
_ vibrZvi miznis misaRwevad.<br />
xalxis ukuRmarT azrovnebas Sevcvlidi<br />
da danarCeni problemebi<br />
TavisTavad gamoswordeboda.<br />
_ Seni neba rom iyos, ras Secvlidi,<br />
an gamoasworebdi Sens cx-<br />
ovrebaSi, an qveyanaSi, zogadad?<br />
_ Cems cxovrebaSi mecxre klasis<br />
zamTarSi kompiuteris TamaSis<br />
magivrad bevrs vimecadinebdi.<br />
_ cxovrebis azri ra aris<br />
SenTvis?<br />
_ cxovrebas azri SeiZleba arc<br />
aqvs. SeiZleba Cemi mecnieroba da<br />
samSobloze fiqri sasacilod ar<br />
eyos drois did masStabebs. xuT<br />
miliard weliwadSi mze afeTqdeba<br />
da mTel mzis sistemas wamSi<br />
gaaqrobs, gaaqrobs yvelanair kacobriobis<br />
monapovars, gaaqrobs<br />
„vefxistyaosans” da gaaqrobs<br />
CineTis did kedels, Cveni mogoneba<br />
aRar iqneba, magram bednierebi<br />
unda viyoT imiT, rom dRes varsebobT,<br />
rom mogveca saSualeba, gvenaxa<br />
es gaugebari, usazRvro da<br />
gasaocari samyaro. unda gviyvardes<br />
es gaugebari silamaze, unda<br />
gavufrTxildeT sicocxles da<br />
gviyvardes erTmaneTi.<br />
_ rogor fiqrob, gaqvs Tu ara<br />
warmatebis miRwevis Sansi dRevan-<br />
del saqarTveloSi?<br />
_ dRevandel saqarTveloSi Cem<br />
sferoSi vfiqrob, rom ar maqvs<br />
warmatebis miRwevis Sansi.<br />
_ gaqvs iseTi principi, rasac<br />
arasdros uRalateb?<br />
_ Cemi principi Cemi mizania da<br />
mas arasdros vuRalateb.<br />
_ rom ara is, vinc axla xar,<br />
vin iqnebodi?<br />
_ bavSvobaSi Zalian zarmaci<br />
viyavi, skolaSi ar vswavlobdi da<br />
mTel dRes ezoSi fexburTis<br />
TamaSsa da garTobaSi vatarebdi.<br />
meeqvse klasSi dedam Wadrakze Semiyvana.<br />
maswavlebels Zalian moswonda<br />
Cemi TamaSi. ori kviris Semdeg<br />
gadawyvita, Sejibrze gaveyvane...<br />
Zalian gamixarda amis gagoneba.<br />
Sejibri SabaTs tardeboda, me<br />
ki paraskevs saltos gakeTebisas<br />
marcxena wvivi Suaze gadamtyda da<br />
mTeli wvivi spiralurad gaibzara<br />
terfidan muxlamde. fexi rom ar<br />
momtexoda, dRes, albaT, moWadrake<br />
viqnebodi, an erTi ubralo,<br />
zarmaci fexburTeli.<br />
_ da mainc, vin aris gela pata-<br />
Suri?<br />
_ gela pataSuri aris gaugebroba,<br />
romelic SeiZleba arsebobs<br />
da SeiZleba arc arsebobs.<br />
_ ra aris Seni samomavlo geg-<br />
ma?<br />
_ mecnieroba<br />
_ raze fiqrob xolme yvelaze<br />
xSirad?<br />
_ yvelaze xSirad vfiqrob am<br />
gaugebar samyarosa da RmerTze,<br />
zogjer ramdenime saaTs, an dRes.<br />
_ visi imedi gaqvs cxovreba-<br />
Si?<br />
_ cxovrebaSi mxolod Cemi imedi<br />
maqvs da Tu RmerTi arsebobs,<br />
misic.<br />
_ ras moaqvs yvelaze didi<br />
simSvide SenTvis da rogor<br />
ggonia, sad aris xsna adamianebi-<br />
sTvis?<br />
_ simSvide CemTvis moaqvs miznis<br />
miRwevas da RmerTsa da samyaroze<br />
fiqrs, radgan am dros<br />
yvelaferi maviwydeba. aseve, simSvide<br />
moaqvs ganmartoebiT buneba-<br />
Si yofnas.<br />
_ Sansi rom gqondes, romel<br />
qveyanasa da epoqaSi daibadebodi?<br />
_ mizidavs da mainteresebs antikuri<br />
samyaro. mgonia, rom maSin<br />
adamianebs ufro meti kavSiri<br />
hqondaT bunebasTan, vidre dRes<br />
aqvT.<br />
Sansi rom mqondes, davibadebodi<br />
amerikaSi indielebis epoqaSi,<br />
maTTan erTad vinadirebdi, maT-<br />
Tan erTad davakvirdebodi bunebas,<br />
maTTan erTad vumRerebdi<br />
varskvlavebsa da bunebas, maTTan<br />
erTad avidodi mzis Casvlisas<br />
did mwvervalze, gavxedavdi horizonts<br />
da davukravdi maT sakravze,<br />
sadac Cavaqsovdi Cems gulistkivils<br />
da aRtacebas, bolos<br />
maTTan erTad mTeli emociiT<br />
Cavebmebodi saritualo cekvebSi<br />
cecxlis garSemo da mivecemodi<br />
Tavdaviwyebas yovlisSemZle Rv-<br />
Taebisa da zebunebriv Zalebze<br />
fiqrSi.<br />
_ ra iqneba Seni gzavnili sa-<br />
zogadoebisTvis?<br />
_ ifiqreT ara mxolod materialurze,<br />
aramed sulierze da<br />
samyaroseulze, dasviT bevri<br />
kiTxva, eZebeT Tqveni Tavi, eZebeT<br />
adamianisa da samyaros arsi. ifiqreT<br />
siyvarulze, ifiqreT sam-<br />
Sobloze, ifiqreT kacobriobis<br />
bedze. daisaxeT didi miznebi da<br />
ibrZoleT maT misaRwevad.<br />
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