Mark Heyman Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield

A: No. Idi.dnvt~lWhOthey~wllsnIf~gukthere. N w
came araurd atd told yau this is what it is, byt they're seniors. It
didn't mean -, I mean, arrythirrg special. They were there a
1 9 time arrd they had respmsibilities ard they -It all equal or
they weren't all the s2tm; kind of peaple.
A: Thgymtherealwtbandthsy-CQPlPnittadtoTaLiesh.
It didn't look like thsy m leavm. Nw, one left I was
there. That's artis Beahger ard he was there abaut ten yeam or
mre, Ivmnat sure. So, me senior apprentice left whan I was there.
He had ccaae to Taliesin fran the University of Kansas -1 of
Architectme. I think he was an.- faculty or had just been a
graduate. He was there ten or raom years z d in rq semrd year, I
think, he wmt back to Kansas as a faculty mmhr and hels still
there. Inthe five years UEI, I m saw amher senior leave. And
as a matter of fact, there was a prwious senior who canu3 back a m
Mr. Wright died, John Hill. The reascffl he left was that he hame the
edibr or the hilaing editor of Hause mutiful. He
had a skill in writing. He did a lut of interior work at Taliesin. I
mean, he did furniture ad mior details and draw-. He ms very
good. He was with House Beautiful for a raanber of years ami then
afterm. Wright died, he retuned. NQW, I kmwhimbecause of
visits. He came occasionally and, of cxnuse, when sambxly had
been an apprentice for a lcag time cam bade, yau knaw hels an "old
boy.I1 You hmw, he werything and weqbdy. Nm, he didn't
laawwho I was or any of the newer apprenti-. And, also, House
EIeautiful was doing a bunch of articles m Mr. Wright. Thq" very
close when I was w. Elizabeth Gordm was the editor and they did
~issuesmhim*
Q: Well, aside frm their presuraably indefinite dtmerrt: to
Taliesin, what else dist u@shed--and
' the lm$h of their
-t else distbquhhed
-
these senior fell-? Access to
Wright?
A: Yes, ht only in tha nature of #eir resprmsibilities. No more
mial or arrything else. We all w c e s . We mre all a part
of the cammi*. wit rn their responsibilities, you lmav, and their
rqmsibilities were llOt f M. Fbr exrmp31e, senior Ken Lack&& was
very good at plumbing just as a sideline. So, wtxe rmyh sane
other younger people who hew abut plw&irYg, but the
mqxmsibility for plmbing, nm this ~s not a big thhq, lxrt there's
a lot of p1ud.q at bath places, was his. Nw, this is not his major
thhg, hrt I1rn just say* that each per- had a carbination of
skills ard Ilrrterests.
Q: What about living a-tions?
A: Well, most of thm [the seniors] were married ard therefore, they
basicdlly in Arizona didn't live in tents, they lived in this
ccarrpcKlrd, which is the original apprmtim -. It wasn't
very ~UXUX:~CXZS. It was just maw. Zhey had mmnmd lavatories in
bathrocsns and so m. I gusss, they had a closet so they muld keep