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Mark Heyman Memoir - University of Illinois Springfield

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A: Wes carte frcan an affluent fdly ard the way he spent money, it<br />

was clearly nut f m Mr. Wrightls pocket. Jack did nut. He came out<br />

<strong>of</strong> high -1 and johd the Taliesh. He canvt frrnn Evanston High<br />

School. I assume he ms paid -. I dmlt think it was much.<br />

At one time, Mr. might haqht cars for senior apprerrtices. They<br />

bught a ~ 1- Minx, painted red and black. Arrl they were there<br />

vhen I got there in 1954 and they were pretty well worn, but sme<br />

seniors have them. So he gave thean cars. I1m quite sure Jack and<br />

the Etecretary. He did seaetarial work, tdephme. papers, bills,<br />

letters, and all that kind <strong>of</strong> [tkixrg] , tyPm and mt not. Wtt he<br />

was an accmpliahed hterior designer and he did a lot <strong>of</strong> mrals for<br />

Mr. Wright for 1- Mldings like the Price in Arizma and for<br />

laxgehames. He~vexrypesrsanableaswell. Hemilddealwith<br />

clients m the telephone, and in m.<br />

Q: Can ym give me a pr<strong>of</strong>ile <strong>of</strong> the -ices, that is to say, the<br />

charamistics in general -?<br />

A: No, thatls very difficult. I1d say there were tw kinds,<br />

Amricam and ncm-Amaericans. I mean, I'm trying to break it dam.<br />

The non-Arrrericans were different because they am^ fmm a long<br />

diEttarzceardmst<strong>of</strong>~~~~teamhi~,maybe~o<br />

t w o y e a r s a u t o f ~ ~ WhenIwasth@m,wehadtwo<br />

~ l .<br />

fram Ida. Orre f- Japan was the sml <strong>of</strong> an ~~ mo mrwd<br />

with Mr. Wright on the IsJrperial Hotel. We had thm fmm Italy, South<br />

Arrrerica, a qle <strong>of</strong> amtries.<br />

-<br />

Ard they also generally, at least<br />

whenfwa~there~cmrreforcmyear. TheyhadaCanrmi-, itwasa<br />

big expense, a big thing in their lives, and then they wmt back. we<br />

hadaSwisscmplethatareforaytar,welltwoywm. 'Iherewas<br />

b h a I was at Wiesin £ran China * had been there a nuher<br />

<strong>of</strong>-, SOtherewaswnreexOeprtimto [theoneyear]. But,<br />

basically, the foreign archi- were mre hmqmms in their age,<br />

their baclqmund, and their camdtment.<br />

Q: So, their assocation was more like a pstqmkate fellamhip<br />

Y=?<br />

A: Yes.<br />

Q: They m pr<strong>of</strong>essid architacts already anl . . .<br />

A: Yes. I dmlt knm hrrw Mr. Wright se1ed.d then or, ym kmw,<br />

through recrcarplrerdatims. There w@re enaqh people all wer .the world<br />

wfio knewm. Wright or. . . So, he toak tha on faith. He didn't<br />

usually interview them. Nw, the ones fmn the united States d&<br />

m the great el mybe 80 percent, are mu21 mre wmems. WhenIwasthere, therewas~fellcrwwhohadjust~ted-had<br />

been there six mwrths before I was-he graduated frrarn a high &ool in<br />

Wisconsin, not far frm Taliesin in a mall Wiscrmsin tcrwn. His<br />

fa- was a fanner. Although, I lacrw that he was rather<br />

sophisticated because this fellow just m a t e d fmn a rural hi*<br />

schoolwas~<strong>of</strong>thefewwhoread'&leNewYorkerevery~.<br />

(laughter) Again, this apprenkia I mrrticmed last th you to

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