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Bertil Högberg: In agreement with <strong>the</strong> ANC?<br />
<str<strong>on</strong>g>Axel</str<strong>on</strong>g>-<str<strong>on</strong>g>Ivar</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Berglund</str<strong>on</strong>g>: Yes.<br />
Bertil Högberg: But <strong>the</strong>n it took a different path?<br />
<str<strong>on</strong>g>Axel</str<strong>on</strong>g>-<str<strong>on</strong>g>Ivar</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Berglund</str<strong>on</strong>g>: Yes, it took its own way.<br />
Bertil Högberg: What was <strong>the</strong> reacti<strong>on</strong> in Uppsala at CSM? How did <strong>the</strong>y deal<br />
with it, because <strong>the</strong> Inkatha thing cuts through <strong>the</strong> church completely.<br />
<str<strong>on</strong>g>Axel</str<strong>on</strong>g>-<str<strong>on</strong>g>Ivar</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Berglund</str<strong>on</strong>g>: Yes, very much indeed. I really d<strong>on</strong>’t know how <strong>the</strong> CSM<br />
folk in Uppsala interpreted this gradual process that was taking place.<br />
Sometimes I w<strong>on</strong>der whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong>y were really aware of it. Certainly <strong>the</strong><br />
indicati<strong>on</strong>s were such that <strong>on</strong>e thought that <strong>the</strong>y regarded him as an individual<br />
and not as a representative of <strong>the</strong> nati<strong>on</strong>, a fact that was very bad. One<br />
occasi<strong>on</strong> when <strong>the</strong> whole thing became pointed was during <strong>the</strong> extensi<strong>on</strong> of<br />
<strong>the</strong> Ceza hospital to <strong>the</strong> Ngal<strong>on</strong>de area, where <strong>on</strong>e built a TB hospital and<br />
named it Thulasizwe Hospital. Gatsha was <strong>the</strong>re and played a very<br />
dominating role. Then it became very clear that it was no l<strong>on</strong>ger a cultural<br />
issue <strong>on</strong>ly, it was <strong>on</strong> <strong>the</strong> way to become a str<strong>on</strong>g political movement. I d<strong>on</strong>’t<br />
know whe<strong>the</strong>r <strong>the</strong> ANC was represented <strong>the</strong>re, but certainly <strong>the</strong> Inkatha<br />
people were <strong>the</strong>re in great numbers. I think that <strong>the</strong>re were no fewer than 3 or<br />
4 cattle slaughtered <strong>on</strong> that particular day.<br />
Bertil Högberg: What time was that, <strong>the</strong> end of <strong>the</strong> 1970s?<br />
<str<strong>on</strong>g>Axel</str<strong>on</strong>g>-<str<strong>on</strong>g>Ivar</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>Berglund</str<strong>on</strong>g>: Mid-1970s. Anna Berndtss<strong>on</strong> and Märta Adolfss<strong>on</strong> say<br />
something about this in <strong>the</strong>ir book.<br />
Bertil Högberg: CSM c<strong>on</strong>centrated its missi<strong>on</strong> in Kwa-Zulu Natal, but <strong>the</strong>n that<br />
church was joined toge<strong>the</strong>r with <strong>the</strong> churches built up by o<strong>the</strong>r missi<strong>on</strong>s to<br />
create <strong>the</strong> Evangelical Lu<strong>the</strong>ran Church of South Africa.<br />
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