Axel-Ivar Berglund - Nordic Documentation on the Liberation ...

<strong>Axel</strong>-<strong>Ivar</strong> <strong>Berglund</strong>: By the South African big brother, yes.
Bertil Högberg: How significant was the support from the Church of Sweden
Mission to the Lutheran church and to SACC? Was it a very important?
<strong>Axel</strong>-<strong>Ivar</strong> <strong>Berglund</strong>: Very important indeed. CSM was looked upon as a most
reliable counterpart in Europe. Not all the others were of the same calibre as
CSM.
Bertil Högberg: What type of cooperation was there between CSM and other
organizations in Sweden and in Europe?
<strong>Axel</strong>-<strong>Ivar</strong> <strong>Berglund</strong>: I think that the donor agencies would meet, not regularly,
to share information and discuss how to increase their support and how to go
about it. I do know that CSM met with donor agencies in Germany, in Holland,
and occasionally perhaps in England also. England was normally very well
informed.
Bertil Högberg: What relations did CSM have with the Lutheran World
Federation and with the World Council of Churches?
<strong>Axel</strong>-<strong>Ivar</strong> <strong>Berglund</strong>: On and off depending on who was at the head of the
Lutheran World Federation, which is very flexible. The Lutheran World
Federation in South Africa is today headed by Ishmael Noko, he is a nice
man. [According to the website, the Presiding Bishop is Joe RAMASHAPA]
Bertil Högberg: And a product of the Swedish Mission to Zimbabwe?
<strong>Axel</strong>-<strong>Ivar</strong> <strong>Berglund</strong>: Yes. He grew up at Manama and we had him at
Umphumulo, I know Ishmael Noko inside and out. In fact, I officiated at his
marriage.
The World Council of Churches would seek to operate through SACC rather
than the Lutheran missions. The Lutheran missions were taken care of by
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