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the forest, and the people there put up maumahara on the trees; they were made out of tin and all sorts<br />

of materials. And so, up at Murray‟s, a tutor at NorthTech, I would practice in [that] ngahere and the<br />

one up the back there too, …putting on the trees the names of tupuna, writ[ing] them up and put[ting]<br />

them up...<br />

Originally it was for nga whare kua ngaro, you know kua ngaro. …We have in Ngati Hau, in here, we<br />

have lines that are extinct. And so part of that is to really acknowledge those lines that are no longer<br />

with us.<br />

On the other side are the tupuna names from 1865 to 1920… That‟s the time period. …The tupuna<br />

names that I‟ve put on there [are] just the tupuna names from 1865 to 1920. So they only go up to our<br />

grandparents‟ time. They don‟t go to our parents and maybe at another time they can go up.<br />

…The whole whenua was ours and… wherever we went everybody knew the boundaries, the rivers of<br />

their whenua and so I‟ve put tupuna names up randomly... to broaden, to widen or extend the hapu<br />

base.<br />

I made other things with clay and again to evoke memory of loss I made clay pieces of mokomokai,<br />

waka tupapaku, of waka koiwi, tiki wananga and I used kokowai too on some of my work until I found<br />

out that it was a tapu and so I stopped from using it. And that again is a loss that we have and the clay<br />

pieces really were more personalized because they evoked for me things I could best be able to<br />

express.<br />

…At some stage if the whanau want me to exhibit my clay pieces that‟s fine. …The reason that I<br />

didn‟t [is] because some whanau, and some kaumatua kuia, they don‟t like looking at those things . So<br />

out of respect for everyone, that‟s why I haven‟t, unless the people want to. I don‟t want to spring any<br />

surprises; that‟s not the intention of my work.<br />

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