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ehind Communism. So, I opened the door for Joe, and it blew his mind to find out what was really going on. Martin: Was he grateful? Mullins: Oh, very much so, oh yes. He paid me well, during that time. He paid me from his private bank account, from Baker’s National Bank. Martin: Now, at what point did you spin-off and write Rape Of Justice and Murder By Injection and some of the other books? Mullins: For the first 20 years, I was only interested in the Federal Reserve system, and I had no interest in any of these other things. Philanthropy and the medical profession and law were things—I began to have some legal experiences because people plagiarized my book and robbed me and various things, injuring me. I was the only person ever fired from the staff of the Library of Congress for political reasons, in 1952. So, that was one of my first lawsuits, against the Library of Congress. Martin: And what happened? Mullins: It was dismissed without a hearing. That’s been true of all of my lawsuits. I’ve always been denied jury trial, which is guaranteed by the Constitution. I represented myself, which is also a Constitutional right. But, what I didn’t know was, when you represented yourself, the lawyers and judges would all unite against you because you are the threat to their profession and income. [Laughter] And they would do anything to destroy you, once you came into court to represent yourself. Martin: Was it during the Joe McCarthy relationship that J. Edgar Hoover became so interested in you? Mullins: J. Edgar Hoover had me A Writ For Martyrs by Eustace Mullins $15.00 (+S/H) This is a fully documented exposé of the atrocities which federal agents regularly commit against American citizens. This book reproduces 121 pages from Eustace Mullins’ FBI file, which he obtained only by the personal intervention of a college classmate, Senator John Warner, Rep. Of Virginia. The FBI refused for two years to send Eustace his files through FOI (Freedom of Information Act) inquiries. And when Eustace found it, he discovered a plot by the FBI, with 60 pages of memos, in which J. Edgar Hoover personally ordered that Eustace be committed to a under surveillance at that time, which I didn’t know because the Feds are very discrete, for the first few years. It only became intense when I moved to Chicago in 1958, and that’s when they had around-the-clock surveillance, with three car-loads of FBI agents parked outside. I had become very well known, by that time, with my writings. They considered me a prime target. Martin: It took you how long to get your FBI file? Mullins: I was told for years that I should get my FBI file. And I said “What file? I’ve never [laughter] been arrested in my life; never talked to an FBI agent, or anything.” So, I figured there was no file. And then, I finally wrote to them in 1980. And they said: “Yes, we have 800 pages.” I was quite surprised. And then, of course, I ordered it, at 10¢ a page. They accepted my request, but then I heard nothing from them. It dragged on for two years. Finally, I sent off a note to a college classmate, Senator John Warner of Virginia, who married two of the richest women in the world. He married Constance Mellon, the heiress to the Mellon fortune. She divorced him, later on. They had some children. He made a nice settlement on it of $7 million. So, he bought a big estate at Middleburg, outside of Washington, and has been a mainstay of Washington society ever since. And then, an opening appeared in the Republican Party, Dick Oppenchain, who was a political leader in Virginia, was killed in a mysterious plane crash. Warner moved up then, as the frontrunner. And so, Elizabeth Taylor came flying in from Hollywood. She heard he mental institution for life. On the basis of these revelations, Eustace obtained two “Default Judgments” against the FBI in Federal Court. As these were “Default Judgments”, they were duly recorded. One judgment was for $50 million, and one for $35 million, which remain on the books today as “Default Judgments” against the FBI. This book also documents atrocities committed against Eustace’s handicapped sister, his ailing mother, and his invalid father, who all died of heart attacks after daily harassments by the FBI terrorists. Mullins was one of the principal victims of the notorious FBI counter-intelligence program called COINTEL, a program set up by Alex Rosen, one of five FBI assistant directors. This entire COINTEL program was actually organized by the Anti- Defamation League of B’nai B’rith and the Mossad intelligence agency. This entire book is based on official reproductions of government documents which Mullins obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. SEE NEXT-TO-LAST PAGE FOR ORDERING OR CALL TOLL-FREE: 1-877-280-2866. was going to be the next president, and so she married him. [Laughter] But then, neither one of them counted on Ronald Reagan, who popped-up about that time. Once he was on the scene, Warner had none of Reagan’s charisma, or public appeal, or even public notoriety. Warner, later on, then became a senator, but he never made the presidential run, at all. So, when he didn’t get the presidential nomination, Elizabeth flew back to Hollywood and has never been seen in Virginia since. Martin: [Laughter] Mullins: She wasn’t a girl who wanted to waste her time. So anyway, I sent Warner a note that the FBI had been stalling me for two years on my file. About three days later, someone runs up on my porch at night, after dark, and hands me a package, and runs off. They double-parked out front, ran up, with the lights on and everything. I opened it up, and it was 500 pages of my FBI file, which contained about 60 pages of a plot by J. Edgar Hoover to have me put into a mental institution. Martin: You filed a lawsuit on that, didn’t you? Mullins: I filed a lawsuit on that, and the FBI refused to appear; they defaulted. So, I filed a Default Judgment for a $30 million default. You don’t have to have a court hearing or anything on that; it’s automatic. If they don’t file a response within the 21 days, then you file a Default Judgment. And then, as I read the file and developed the charges against them, I filed a second lawsuit for $50 million, and again they defaulted; they didn’t appear. I didn’t know it, but that’s an accepted legal procedure. Alan Dershowitz is one of the great exponents of that. If someone sues you, just let them win the judgement through default, because there’s no way you can collect it under American law. You have to have a judge’s execution, which sounds better than it is. [Laughter] All it means is that a judge has to issue an executive order to collect the money, which the judges won’t do; although they’re legally bound to do it, they won’t do it. Martin: Now, didn’t Hoover classify you as “the most dangerous man in America” at one point? [ R.M. Note: For those of you wanting to know much more about Eustace’s lifetime harassment by the FBI and ADL, including excerpts from his FBI file, this is all very clearly documented in his book A Writ For Martyrs.] PAGE 42 www.TheSpectrumNews.org Toll-free: 1-877-280-2866 Outside U.S.: 1-661-823-9696 SEPTEMBER 2002
Mullins: Yes, he did. And that was because, during my years at the Institute of Contemporary Art, I was with a very bohemian crowd. Two of the people I knew were an alcoholic couple. The wife was an aspiring writer herself. They were from an old Maryland family. She mentioned to me, one day, about J. Edgar Hoover, that she had nursed his mother through her final illness. She told me that she was appalled by one thing that occurred, and that was when, on her deathbed, she said: “Edgar, I just want you to promise me one thing.” And he said: “Anything, mother, anything.” Then she said: “I want you to give up Clive.” “Well, of course, mother, I agree to do that.” Then she died, and he never gave up Clive at all. In fact, Clive became the chief beneficiary of his will. He cut-out all of his many blood relatives in the Washington area; he had about fifty there—nieces, nephews, and so forth. They received not one penny from the Hoover estate. It all was left to Clive Tolson, and a few other buddies at the FBI. Martin: And what happened to Clive and his heirs? Mullins: He died of a heart attack, about 4 years later. And all of Hoover’s fortune—he had built-up an enormous fortune through gifts from Jewish millionaires in New York, like Marx, of the Marx Toy Company. See, through government intervention, Marx got all the German patents for toys, as part of the war loot. So that made him very wealthy, because the German toys were the world’s best. Marx was one of Hoover’s principal benefactors. There are a number of others: Rubenstein, the Jewish owner of Schenley Distillery, which was the rival to Bronfman’s Seagrams. Rosensteil was one of Hoover’s big contributors. But all of these people showered gifts on Hoover, constantly, because, you see, Hoover did all the work for the ADL. The whole FBI was nothing more than a police force for the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith. They rewarded Hoover, very liberally. They gave him rare jade porcelain statues from Japan, worth $15,000-$20,000 apiece, and solid gold cuff-links. Hoover’s home was simply a treasure-chest of all these millions of dollars worth of gifts. After he died, or was murdered, it was all reported to be worth about $30,000. [Laughter] Martin: [Laughter] Mullins: Including 150 books, each SEPTEMBER 2002 autographed by the writer, including Dwight Eisenhower, LBJ, JFK, and others, and all of these autographed books were listed, by the executors, at a value of $1.00 each. Martin: [Laughter] Mullins: [Laughter] And Hoover’s personal FBI badge, a gold one, which he carried in his wallet, was listed as being worth $10. Martin: Was there foul play with Hoover? Mullins: Oh, yes. He became a victim of the Watergate episode, because he had some photographs. The FBI had people stationed at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico and they got a picture of Howard Hunt, and some of the other people involved in the JFK thing; pictures of them in Mexico, at the U.S. Embassy, with no reason for them to be there, just before the assassination. Hoover was threatening to expose these pictures, give them to the press. And so, they gave him a Washington heart attack. Martin: Right. Mullins: You see, with the chauffeur, when he came down to get into the underground garage at the Justice Building, to go home, to be driven home, they smothered him right in the back seat of the car; then they took him home and stretched him out on the bed for his maid to find in the morning. They called it a “heart seizure” or something. But no, they got rid of him. He, actually, was in pretty good health. Because he had a very easy life. He was a bureaucrat. He and Clive Tolson used to lunch, every day, at Harvey’s, the most fashionable and expensive restaurant on Connecticut Avenue in Washington. He never paid—it was owned by a Jew—he never got a bill for his dinners. [Laughter] Martin: [Laughter] Did the FBI ever back-off , or do they still surveil you? Mullins: Hoover, of course, knew that I knew Verna, and knew the story about his mother. That’s why he intensified the attacks on me, and on members of my family. So, I wrote a letter to a newspaper one day, stating that Hoover had covered-up for a Soviet mole in the FBI office in New York City, which was quite well know as a matter of fact; it had been printed before. And he refused to get rid of the mole because he feared the bad publicity. So, he just let the guy stay on. [Laughter] Martin: [Laughter] Mullins: They figured that was the best thing to do. When I wrote to this editor, I told him about the Soviet mole. He, of course, called-up Hoover immediately. Hoover told him to ignore the letter. He said: “I’m sure you know that Eustace Mullins is the most dangerous man in America.” And, of course, the editor didn’t know that, but he was quite impressed. [Laughter] Martin: [Laughter] Mullins: And so, ever since then, I was referred to as “the most dangerous man in America” according to the FBI. Martin: That is so funny. Mullins: Well, it is. And here I am, a person who has never even gotten a parking ticket in my life. If I was that dangerous, somebody wasn’t doing their job. We found that out at 9/11, that nobody was doing their job. In fact, they were all involved in it. Of course, the Washington bureaucracy was built on turf. You never interfere on somebody else’s turf. And so, all of the intelligence agencies never share any information with anybody else; the FBI, the CIA pretend the other one doesn’t exist. And the National Security Agency only functions for the benefit of government. In other words, it’s material is never released to the public in any way. It’s just for the bureaucrats. Most Americans don’t know that the National Security Agency exists. [Laughter] Martin: It’s how much larger than the CIA? Mullins: Oh, much larger. It has a budget about 100 times the budget of the CIA. The CIA has been like the FBI, it’s been a public agency, known to the public. But the NSA has never been. Henry Kissinger was hired by Nixon; he not only became Secretary of State, but also head of the National Security Agency, which are two of the biggest plums in Washington. He had two jobs at one time. Martin: Let’s talk about H. L. Hunt, a little bit. How did you become acquainted with H. L. Hunt? Mullins: I had encountered H. L. Hunt several times in New York. He would come there regularly. I had lunch with him, and one other fellow, one day. He was very quiet, very, very reserved, and very well mannered. And, of course, he knew about my work, my book and so- “No one is so cut off from learning as a student at an American university.” — Eustace Mullins (in his biography of Ezra Pound) www.TheSpectrumNews.org Toll-free: 1-877-280-2866 Outside U.S.: 1-661-823-9696 PAGE 43
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