Soldier Of Truth In A Lifelong Battle With Lies - Four Winds 10

Mullins: Yes, he did. And that was
because, during my years at the Institute
of Contemporary Art, I was with a very
bohemian crowd. Two of the people I
knew were an alcoholic couple. The wife
was an aspiring writer herself. They were
from an old Maryland family. She
mentioned to me, one day, about J. Edgar
Hoover, that she had nursed his mother
through her final illness.
She told me that she was appalled by
one thing that occurred, and that was
when, on her deathbed, she said: “Edgar,
I just want you to promise me one thing.”
And he said: “Anything, mother,
anything.”
Then she said: “I want you to give up
Clive.”
“Well, of course, mother, I agree to do
that.”
Then she died, and he never gave up
Clive at all. In fact, Clive became the
chief beneficiary of his will. He cut-out
all of his many blood relatives in the
Washington area; he had about fifty
there—nieces, nephews, and so forth.
They received not one penny from the
Hoover estate. It all was left to Clive
Tolson, and a few other buddies at the
FBI.
Martin: And what happened to Clive
and his heirs?
Mullins: He died of a heart attack,
about 4 years later.
And all of Hoover’s fortune—he had
built-up an enormous fortune through
gifts from Jewish millionaires in New
York, like Marx, of the Marx Toy
Company. See, through government
intervention, Marx got all the German
patents for toys, as part of the war loot.
So that made him very wealthy, because
the German toys were the world’s best.
Marx was one of Hoover’s principal
benefactors.
There are a number of others:
Rubenstein, the Jewish owner of
Schenley Distillery, which was the rival
to Bronfman’s Seagrams. Rosensteil was
one of Hoover’s big contributors. But all
of these people showered gifts on Hoover,
constantly, because, you see, Hoover did
all the work for the ADL. The whole FBI
was nothing more than a police force for
the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai
B’rith. They rewarded Hoover, very
liberally. They gave him rare jade
porcelain statues from Japan, worth
$15,000-$20,000 apiece, and solid gold
cuff-links. Hoover’s home was simply a
treasure-chest of all these millions of
dollars worth of gifts. After he died, or
was murdered, it was all reported to be
worth about $30,000. [Laughter]
Martin: [Laughter]
Mullins: Including 150 books, each
SEPTEMBER 2002
autographed by the writer, including
Dwight Eisenhower, LBJ, JFK, and others,
and all of these autographed books were
listed, by the executors, at a value of
$1.00 each.
Martin: [Laughter]
Mullins: [Laughter] And Hoover’s
personal FBI badge, a gold one, which he
carried in his wallet, was listed as being
worth $10.
Martin: Was there foul play with
Hoover?
Mullins: Oh, yes. He became a victim
of the Watergate episode, because he had
some photographs. The FBI had people
stationed at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico
and they got a picture of Howard Hunt,
and some of the other people involved in
the JFK thing; pictures of them in
Mexico, at the U.S. Embassy, with no
reason for them to be there, just before
the assassination. Hoover was
threatening to expose these pictures,
give them to the press. And so, they gave
him a Washington heart attack.
Martin: Right.
Mullins: You see, with the chauffeur,
when he came down to get into the
underground garage at the Justice
Building, to go home, to be driven home,
they smothered him right in the back seat
of the car; then they took him home and
stretched him out on the bed for his maid
to find in the morning. They called it a
“heart seizure” or something.
But no, they got rid of him. He,
actually, was in pretty good health.
Because he had a very easy life. He was
a bureaucrat. He and Clive Tolson used
to lunch, every day, at Harvey’s, the most
fashionable and expensive restaurant on
Connecticut Avenue in Washington. He
never paid—it was owned by a Jew—he
never got a bill for his dinners.
[Laughter]
Martin: [Laughter] Did the FBI ever
back-off , or do they still surveil you?
Mullins: Hoover, of course, knew that
I knew Verna, and knew the story about
his mother. That’s why he intensified the
attacks on me, and on members of my
family.
So, I wrote a letter to a newspaper one
day, stating that Hoover had covered-up
for a Soviet mole in the FBI office in
New York City, which was quite well
know as a matter of fact; it had been
printed before. And he refused to get rid
of the mole because he feared the bad
publicity. So, he just let the guy stay on.
[Laughter]
Martin: [Laughter]
Mullins: They figured that was the
best thing to do. When I wrote to this
editor, I told him about the Soviet mole.
He, of course, called-up Hoover
immediately. Hoover told him to ignore
the letter. He said: “I’m sure you know
that Eustace Mullins is the most
dangerous man in America.”
And, of course, the editor didn’t know
that, but he was quite impressed.
[Laughter]
Martin: [Laughter]
Mullins: And so, ever since then, I was
referred to as “the most dangerous man in
America” according to the FBI.
Martin: That is so funny.
Mullins: Well, it is. And here I am, a
person who has never even gotten a
parking ticket in my life. If I was that
dangerous, somebody wasn’t doing their
job. We found that out at 9/11, that
nobody was doing their job. In fact, they
were all involved in it.
Of course, the Washington bureaucracy
was built on turf. You never interfere on
somebody else’s turf.
And so, all of the intelligence agencies
never share any information with
anybody else; the FBI, the CIA pretend
the other one doesn’t exist.
And the National Security Agency
only functions for the benefit of
government. In other words, it’s material
is never released to the public in any
way. It’s just for the bureaucrats. Most
Americans don’t know that the National
Security Agency exists. [Laughter]
Martin: It’s how much larger than the
CIA?
Mullins: Oh, much larger. It has a
budget about 100 times the budget of the
CIA. The CIA has been like the FBI, it’s
been a public agency, known to the
public. But the NSA has never been.
Henry Kissinger was hired by Nixon; he
not only became Secretary of State, but
also head of the National Security
Agency, which are two of the biggest
plums in Washington. He had two jobs at
one time.
Martin: Let’s talk about H. L. Hunt, a
little bit. How did you become
acquainted with H. L. Hunt?
Mullins: I had encountered H. L. Hunt
several times in New York. He would
come there regularly. I had lunch with
him, and one other fellow, one day. He
was very quiet, very, very reserved, and
very well mannered. And, of course, he
knew about my work, my book and so-
“No one is so cut off
from learning as a
student at an American
university.”
— Eustace Mullins (in his
biography of Ezra Pound)
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