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2005 Proceedings - Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War

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National Counselor James B. Pahl<br />

In this section <strong>the</strong> proposed version has deleted <strong>the</strong> <strong>of</strong>fice <strong>of</strong> Guide and I would move to amend<br />

<strong>the</strong> proposed version to add in <strong>the</strong> Guide in appropriate alphabetical placement.<br />

Commander-in-Chief Stephen Michaels<br />

As a friendly amendment Sir?<br />

National Counselor James B. Pahl<br />

Yes.<br />

Commander-in-Chief Stephen Michaels<br />

Thank you. And Bro<strong>the</strong>r Darby will you?<br />

Senior Vice Commander-in-Chief Donald Darby<br />

Yes I will.<br />

Commander-in-Chief Stephen Michaels<br />

Second that amendment as well. Thank you. Any fur<strong>the</strong>r discussions. All those in favor?<br />

Encampment<br />

Aye.<br />

Commander-in-Chief Stephen Michaels<br />

Opposed? Motion carries. Next down on <strong>the</strong> page Chapter 2, Article 4 Officers. Bro<strong>the</strong>r Grim.<br />

National Committee on Constitution and Regulations Chairman Robert E. Grim<br />

It is <strong>the</strong> same thing as <strong>the</strong> Department level arranges <strong>the</strong> appointed <strong>of</strong>ficers in alphabetical order.<br />

Commander-in-Chief, Stephen Michaels<br />

And have we left anybody <strong>of</strong>f <strong>the</strong>re?<br />

National Committee on Constitution and Regulations Chairman Robert E. Grim<br />

I would move that we accept <strong>the</strong> report as presented.<br />

David V. Medert, Department <strong>of</strong> Ohio<br />

Second.<br />

Commander-in-Chief, Stephen Michaels<br />

Thank you. Any fur<strong>the</strong>r discussion? All those in favor?<br />

Encampment<br />

Aye.<br />

Commander-in-Chief Stephen Michaels<br />

Opposed? Motion carries. Page 39 at <strong>the</strong> top Section, Chapter 3, Article 4 Officers.<br />

National Committee on Constitution and Regulations Chairman Robert E. Grim<br />

Okay this does <strong>the</strong> same thing with <strong>the</strong> National Officers. It arranges <strong>the</strong>m in alphabetical order<br />

with <strong>the</strong> appointed ones. And I would move that we accept <strong>the</strong> report as presented.<br />

Dale Theetge, Department <strong>of</strong> New York<br />

Second.<br />

Commander-in-Chief Stephen Michaels<br />

Okay. Discussion?<br />

Paul Ellis-Graham, Department <strong>of</strong> New York<br />

I would ask in that list <strong>of</strong> Officers at <strong>the</strong> National level that we include <strong>the</strong> Legislative Chair, in<br />

that list <strong>of</strong> titles because <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> significance <strong>of</strong> that <strong>of</strong>fice I think it has and will have for <strong>the</strong> future <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

<strong>Sons</strong>.<br />

National Counselor James B. Pahl<br />

Commander-in-Chief, what <strong>the</strong> Bro<strong>the</strong>r is proposing is basically creation <strong>of</strong> a new National<br />

Office so we need a job description, etc., etc. To promote a Committee Chairman to a National Officer<br />

status in effect that is what <strong>the</strong> proposal is. So that would require some work for a job description from<br />

<strong>the</strong> Program and Policy Committee….and tomorrow I may object to that.<br />

Paul Ellis-Graham, Department <strong>of</strong> New York<br />

So maybe we could do that in later business.<br />

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