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The 2009 General Conference was historic.<br />
Can you discuss the changes that were made and<br />
how they affected the IPHC?<br />
carpenter: The 2009 General Conference<br />
was historic, and up to this point, it will go<br />
down in history as the most visionary, changeoriented<br />
conference we have ever experienced.<br />
It gave us new wineskins of procedure and<br />
structure to pour our new wine in. We were in<br />
the 21st century, we were doing ministry, but<br />
we were just doing [the same] things we’d been<br />
doing. The 2009 General Conference helped<br />
make us more efficient at what we were doing<br />
and more effective in the process.<br />
The IPHC celebrated its centennial in<br />
January 2011, under your leadership. How do<br />
historic events like this one impact the church?<br />
carpenter: I think events such as the<br />
Centennial are important, period. I think for<br />
the IPHC that event was uniquely important. It<br />
helped give us a balance as we go into the 21st<br />
century and become more aggressive with our<br />
futuristic approach to ministry. We needed that<br />
anchor, like Joshua 4 when God told him to<br />
place the stones on the bank. That Centennial<br />
was our stones on the bank. Now we’ll go and<br />
conquer the land as they did in the book of<br />
Joshua, but we had our time of rejoicing over<br />
what God has done for us, and that builds faith<br />
that He can help us do whatever needs to be<br />
done in the future.<br />
I think there’s a balance between our<br />
intense focus of the last 20 years in looking to<br />
the future, and then coming to an event like<br />
the Centennial that reminds us of where we<br />
came from. It reminds us of our DNA as an<br />
organization, of our doctrinal heritage, of the<br />
sacrifices that others made to help us get where<br />
we are, of our need to be grateful when we see<br />
the growth and progress that has taken place<br />
over the last 100 years because of the favor of<br />
God upon the church.<br />
What are the greatest challenges the church<br />
faces in the 21st century?<br />
carpenter: I’ve had many conversations<br />
with other denominational leaders, and we all<br />
share the same dilemmas and challenges. But<br />
the one thing that I think the church must<br />
address successfully, or nothing else matters, is<br />
the fact that we are living in a pagan society.<br />
In America, so many people in the church<br />
are still under the perception that society is<br />
Christendom, that it is oriented on Judeo-<br />
Christian ethics. This is a post-Christian society.<br />
Our society is becoming more pagan, and as it<br />
does, it not only becomes more godless, but<br />
it becomes more antichurch.<br />
Our challenge is the same challenge<br />
of the first-century church. They met their<br />
challenge. The question is, will we meet<br />
ours as successfully as they did theirs? We<br />
have to learn to build bridges to a pagan<br />
society because they’re not going to build<br />
bridges to us. The command is to “go into<br />
all the world,” not to wait for the world to<br />
come [to us].<br />
We have to reorient our thinking<br />
in the church and learn how to build<br />
bridges to our neighbors who may be<br />
Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, etc. We<br />
have to be relative to our society without<br />
compromising our doctrine and our<br />
position. We have to learn how to connect,<br />
and then communicate in a meaningful<br />
way the gospel of Jesus to a pagan society.<br />
If we don’t learn how to do that, everything<br />
else we do is to no avail.<br />
What must the IPHC do to become a<br />
leader in the 21st century?<br />
carpenter: I see a great future for the<br />
IPHC. I believe with all of my heart that<br />
God has laid his hand on the IPHC to be<br />
a leader in the church world—not just the<br />
<strong>Pentecostal</strong> world, but the church world of<br />
the 21st century.<br />
I think in order for that to be<br />
accomplished, we have to go back to our<br />
three words—relevant, dynamic, and<br />
demonstrative. That’s what gets us there.<br />
Those were the three words God gave<br />
me at General Conference, and I believe<br />
those are God-breathed words. It’s God’s<br />
formula for being the kind of organization<br />
that He wants to be a leader in the church<br />
world. Relevant in that we know how to<br />
connect and communicate; dynamic in that<br />
we are a church that makes an impact in<br />
our communities; and demonstrative in<br />
that we do all that within our <strong>Pentecostal</strong><br />
heritage. With those things intact, I believe<br />
God has a great future for the IPHC.<br />
Recently, you made the difficult decision<br />
to step down as general superintendent. Why<br />
did you choose to step down when you did?<br />
carpenter: It was a difficult decision—<br />
the most difficult decision I’ve ever made.<br />
But it was the right decision, and I’ve<br />
become more convinced of that every day.<br />
It was right for me, for my family, for my<br />
church.<br />
I have had a 20-year battle with<br />
melanoma four times. My most recent<br />
bout involved two different medications.<br />
The first I tolerated well. But last<br />
November, my doctor put me on the<br />
second, more powerful medication.<br />
Although it worked well, I began to feel<br />
the side effects after two months. I had 10<br />
of the 12 side effects attack me all at once,<br />
intensely. It absolutely incapacitated me,<br />
and I was unable to work for about five<br />
weeks.<br />
I did not come here for this<br />
denomination to carry me as an invalid.<br />
I came here to be a leader and carry the<br />
church. And when I felt I could no longer<br />
do that, then my integrity would not allow<br />
me to retain a position the responsibilities<br />
of which I could not carry out.<br />
I want to say the church has been<br />
gracious and kind in responding to my<br />
decision. People have overwhelmed me<br />
with phone calls, voice mails, emails, texts,<br />
cards … There’s no way I can answer them<br />
all.<br />
I ask the church to pray for us. My<br />
family and I are together in this decision. I<br />
have the support of not only my immediate<br />
family, but also my wonderful church<br />
family. And I appreciate the support so<br />
much.<br />
You’ve stated that although you are<br />
resigning, you are not leaving the ministry.<br />
What are your plans for the future?<br />
carpenter: I’m not leaving the<br />
ministry; I’m just resigning from the office<br />
of general superintendent. My wife and I<br />
have always viewed our time in Oklahoma<br />
as an assignment from God. When the<br />
assignment is over, we’re going back home<br />
and will continue to do ministry in another<br />
way. It’ll give me an opportunity to focus<br />
on my health and allow my body to do<br />
what I have not allowed it to do for the last<br />
three years, which is focus on fighting this<br />
disease.<br />
I have felt for some time that I had one<br />
significant season of ministry left in my<br />
life. I didn’t know what it would be. Several<br />
conference superintendents have already<br />
contacted me about hosting seminars<br />
for their pastors. I spent the early part of<br />
my life in Christian education at several<br />
colleges, and I would very much enjoy<br />
teaching—not on a regular basis, but in<br />
special settings.<br />
There are many kinds of ministry that<br />
I can foresee for the future. But I will say<br />
this: my primary ministry is going to be<br />
14 August 2012 | iphc.org/experience