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The 2009 General Conference was historic.<br />

Can you discuss the changes that were made and<br />

how they affected the IPHC?<br />

carpenter: The 2009 General Conference<br />

was historic, and up to this point, it will go<br />

down in history as the most visionary, changeoriented<br />

conference we have ever experienced.<br />

It gave us new wineskins of procedure and<br />

structure to pour our new wine in. We were in<br />

the 21st century, we were doing ministry, but<br />

we were just doing [the same] things we’d been<br />

doing. The 2009 General Conference helped<br />

make us more efficient at what we were doing<br />

and more effective in the process.<br />

The IPHC celebrated its centennial in<br />

January 2011, under your leadership. How do<br />

historic events like this one impact the church?<br />

carpenter: I think events such as the<br />

Centennial are important, period. I think for<br />

the IPHC that event was uniquely important. It<br />

helped give us a balance as we go into the 21st<br />

century and become more aggressive with our<br />

futuristic approach to ministry. We needed that<br />

anchor, like Joshua 4 when God told him to<br />

place the stones on the bank. That Centennial<br />

was our stones on the bank. Now we’ll go and<br />

conquer the land as they did in the book of<br />

Joshua, but we had our time of rejoicing over<br />

what God has done for us, and that builds faith<br />

that He can help us do whatever needs to be<br />

done in the future.<br />

I think there’s a balance between our<br />

intense focus of the last 20 years in looking to<br />

the future, and then coming to an event like<br />

the Centennial that reminds us of where we<br />

came from. It reminds us of our DNA as an<br />

organization, of our doctrinal heritage, of the<br />

sacrifices that others made to help us get where<br />

we are, of our need to be grateful when we see<br />

the growth and progress that has taken place<br />

over the last 100 years because of the favor of<br />

God upon the church.<br />

What are the greatest challenges the church<br />

faces in the 21st century?<br />

carpenter: I’ve had many conversations<br />

with other denominational leaders, and we all<br />

share the same dilemmas and challenges. But<br />

the one thing that I think the church must<br />

address successfully, or nothing else matters, is<br />

the fact that we are living in a pagan society.<br />

In America, so many people in the church<br />

are still under the perception that society is<br />

Christendom, that it is oriented on Judeo-<br />

Christian ethics. This is a post-Christian society.<br />

Our society is becoming more pagan, and as it<br />

does, it not only becomes more godless, but<br />

it becomes more antichurch.<br />

Our challenge is the same challenge<br />

of the first-century church. They met their<br />

challenge. The question is, will we meet<br />

ours as successfully as they did theirs? We<br />

have to learn to build bridges to a pagan<br />

society because they’re not going to build<br />

bridges to us. The command is to “go into<br />

all the world,” not to wait for the world to<br />

come [to us].<br />

We have to reorient our thinking<br />

in the church and learn how to build<br />

bridges to our neighbors who may be<br />

Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, etc. We<br />

have to be relative to our society without<br />

compromising our doctrine and our<br />

position. We have to learn how to connect,<br />

and then communicate in a meaningful<br />

way the gospel of Jesus to a pagan society.<br />

If we don’t learn how to do that, everything<br />

else we do is to no avail.<br />

What must the IPHC do to become a<br />

leader in the 21st century?<br />

carpenter: I see a great future for the<br />

IPHC. I believe with all of my heart that<br />

God has laid his hand on the IPHC to be<br />

a leader in the church world—not just the<br />

<strong>Pentecostal</strong> world, but the church world of<br />

the 21st century.<br />

I think in order for that to be<br />

accomplished, we have to go back to our<br />

three words—relevant, dynamic, and<br />

demonstrative. That’s what gets us there.<br />

Those were the three words God gave<br />

me at General Conference, and I believe<br />

those are God-breathed words. It’s God’s<br />

formula for being the kind of organization<br />

that He wants to be a leader in the church<br />

world. Relevant in that we know how to<br />

connect and communicate; dynamic in that<br />

we are a church that makes an impact in<br />

our communities; and demonstrative in<br />

that we do all that within our <strong>Pentecostal</strong><br />

heritage. With those things intact, I believe<br />

God has a great future for the IPHC.<br />

Recently, you made the difficult decision<br />

to step down as general superintendent. Why<br />

did you choose to step down when you did?<br />

carpenter: It was a difficult decision—<br />

the most difficult decision I’ve ever made.<br />

But it was the right decision, and I’ve<br />

become more convinced of that every day.<br />

It was right for me, for my family, for my<br />

church.<br />

I have had a 20-year battle with<br />

melanoma four times. My most recent<br />

bout involved two different medications.<br />

The first I tolerated well. But last<br />

November, my doctor put me on the<br />

second, more powerful medication.<br />

Although it worked well, I began to feel<br />

the side effects after two months. I had 10<br />

of the 12 side effects attack me all at once,<br />

intensely. It absolutely incapacitated me,<br />

and I was unable to work for about five<br />

weeks.<br />

I did not come here for this<br />

denomination to carry me as an invalid.<br />

I came here to be a leader and carry the<br />

church. And when I felt I could no longer<br />

do that, then my integrity would not allow<br />

me to retain a position the responsibilities<br />

of which I could not carry out.<br />

I want to say the church has been<br />

gracious and kind in responding to my<br />

decision. People have overwhelmed me<br />

with phone calls, voice mails, emails, texts,<br />

cards … There’s no way I can answer them<br />

all.<br />

I ask the church to pray for us. My<br />

family and I are together in this decision. I<br />

have the support of not only my immediate<br />

family, but also my wonderful church<br />

family. And I appreciate the support so<br />

much.<br />

You’ve stated that although you are<br />

resigning, you are not leaving the ministry.<br />

What are your plans for the future?<br />

carpenter: I’m not leaving the<br />

ministry; I’m just resigning from the office<br />

of general superintendent. My wife and I<br />

have always viewed our time in Oklahoma<br />

as an assignment from God. When the<br />

assignment is over, we’re going back home<br />

and will continue to do ministry in another<br />

way. It’ll give me an opportunity to focus<br />

on my health and allow my body to do<br />

what I have not allowed it to do for the last<br />

three years, which is focus on fighting this<br />

disease.<br />

I have felt for some time that I had one<br />

significant season of ministry left in my<br />

life. I didn’t know what it would be. Several<br />

conference superintendents have already<br />

contacted me about hosting seminars<br />

for their pastors. I spent the early part of<br />

my life in Christian education at several<br />

colleges, and I would very much enjoy<br />

teaching—not on a regular basis, but in<br />

special settings.<br />

There are many kinds of ministry that<br />

I can foresee for the future. But I will say<br />

this: my primary ministry is going to be<br />

14 August 2012 | iphc.org/experience

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