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UNDRIP Report - English FINAL - International Forum on Globalization

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could [potentially] generate $50 billi<strong>on</strong> or so of<br />

revenue,” Waskow said. “A lot is dependent of<br />

course <strong>on</strong> the price of carb<strong>on</strong>, but there is an<br />

opportunity through these set-asides to generate<br />

massive amounts of revenue,” he added.<br />

Oxfam is also going to be supporting proposals to<br />

generate revenue in the internati<strong>on</strong>al aviati<strong>on</strong> and<br />

maritime sectors, particularly through the aucti<strong>on</strong>ing<br />

of allowances in those sectors. Right now,<br />

internati<strong>on</strong>al flights and shipping do not fall within<br />

any internati<strong>on</strong>al emissi<strong>on</strong>s system, but by pulling<br />

them into an emissi<strong>on</strong> system and aucti<strong>on</strong>ing off<br />

those allowances, Oxfam estimates they can generate<br />

another $20 billi<strong>on</strong> or so of revenue.<br />

On the delivery side, Waskow believes that <strong>on</strong>e of<br />

the critical questi<strong>on</strong>s is how to design an instituti<strong>on</strong>al<br />

structure that is going to be resp<strong>on</strong>sive to<br />

communities <strong>on</strong> the ground. “Right now, even with<br />

the adaptati<strong>on</strong> fund, which is a fairly new body,<br />

where there is a majority representative of<br />

developing countries <strong>on</strong> the board, even there,<br />

questi<strong>on</strong>s of community participati<strong>on</strong>, indigenous<br />

peoples’ participati<strong>on</strong>, have not really been <strong>on</strong> the<br />

agenda,” he said. “I think <strong>on</strong>e of the tasks we have in<br />

fr<strong>on</strong>t of us, even in the scenario where the overall<br />

nati<strong>on</strong>-state balance is more appropriate that has<br />

been the case in all other multilateral governance<br />

structures, we still have to figure out how to inject<br />

these questi<strong>on</strong>s of participatory governance into the<br />

mix,” Waskow c<strong>on</strong>cluded.<br />

Jake Schmidt, <str<strong>on</strong>g>Internati<strong>on</strong>al</str<strong>on</strong>g> Climate Policy director<br />

at Natural Resources Defense Council, began his<br />

presentati<strong>on</strong> by saying that we made some<br />

fundamental breakthroughs in the Bali Agreement,<br />

laying the foundati<strong>on</strong>. One of these that he believes<br />

to be really crucial is the idea that we need to scale<br />

up the investments, resources, and opportunities<br />

flowing from North to South. “We have had this<br />

promise in lots of internati<strong>on</strong>al agreements for a<br />

l<strong>on</strong>g, l<strong>on</strong>g time, and, quite frankly, there has been a<br />

very little amount of m<strong>on</strong>ey that has actually flowed<br />

there,” he said. “[However],” Schmidt c<strong>on</strong>tinued, “I<br />

think that there is a growing sense that we need a<br />

scaled up set of resources that need to flow from<br />

developed to developing countries to assist in the<br />

transiti<strong>on</strong> for sustainable development, such as clean<br />

energy. The good news is that it is there. It is <strong>on</strong> the<br />

table.”<br />

Although the Bali Road Map has the specific<br />

language that NGOs agree is essential for financing<br />

climate change, that does not mean the mechanisms<br />

are there to deliver <strong>on</strong> it, Schmidt warned. “As we all<br />

know, an internati<strong>on</strong>al agreement is <strong>on</strong>ly as str<strong>on</strong>g as<br />

the mechanisms that people put forward in their<br />

nati<strong>on</strong>al governments and in the internati<strong>on</strong>al forum<br />

to deliver up<strong>on</strong> it. Words themselves have no<br />

meaning unless there is substance behind them,”<br />

Schmidt said. He thinks that it is really crucial over<br />

the next year and a half to put forward the<br />

mechanisms to actually deliver <strong>on</strong> the proposals.<br />

Schmidt said <strong>on</strong>e thing to always keep in mind as<br />

you are thinking about the framework of these<br />

approaches is that “for better or worse, the climate<br />

agreements are government-to-government<br />

agreements. We, as NGOs,try to shape those<br />

governments’ perspectives, and you indigenous<br />

peoples should also try to shape governments’<br />

perspectives. But if you were to ask me what my<br />

ideal soluti<strong>on</strong> would be to climate change, I would<br />

say that it would not come out of Copenhagen.” He<br />

said that we are nowhere near to what is ideal.<br />

Schmidt said we have to work within the mechanism<br />

we have, and the mechanism we have right now is<br />

government. “It doesn’t mean that you can’t<br />

influence it,” he said. “I think that you can influence<br />

it in two very important ways.” One is through your<br />

nati<strong>on</strong>al government. Governments sometimes come<br />

to these negotiati<strong>on</strong>s with a mandate and sometimes<br />

without <strong>on</strong>e. “There is a way to shape that mandate<br />

so that when governments go to the negotiati<strong>on</strong>s,<br />

their mandate is reflecting your views as indigenous<br />

peoples,” Schmidt claimed. The other thing Schmidt<br />

menti<strong>on</strong>ed is to shed light at the internati<strong>on</strong>al level.<br />

“There is always the opportunity to provide<br />

interventi<strong>on</strong>s <strong>on</strong> behalf of the rights of indigenous<br />

peoples <strong>on</strong> some of these key mechanisms, and that<br />

is really crucial, but I would warn that as we go into<br />

Copenhagen, we are a bit bey<strong>on</strong>d the ideas,” he said.<br />

Schmidt also highlighted the need to bring specific<br />

bullet points of ideas, to get language fleshed out,<br />

because, he believes, starting to come out of the<br />

agreement in Poznan will start to come detailed text.<br />

The agreement is going to begin to take shape. “So if<br />

you have input <strong>on</strong> what pieces you want, time is not<br />

<strong>on</strong> our side to develop that language,” he said.<br />

Schmidt then laid out the way that he thinks the<br />

agreement is being fleshed out:<br />

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