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Do you expect to see not just India and China brought into universal institutions, but do
you expect to see any sort of institutions directly and specifically engaging them, as
individual countries, in a way that we brought Japan into something like the Trilateral
Commission
DREZNER: Well, I mean, the Trilateral Commission's a nongovernmental body,
which -- it raises an interesting question, which is whether you're going to see –
ROSE: Reflecting the sort of elite views of this kind of notion that Japan was now a
partner.
DREZNER: Yeah. I mean, I think you're seeing it already. I mean, you saw it in the
Davos forum this year, where the theme was, you know, developing countries and the
sort of diffusion of power, where I think India, you know, had a, you know, large
representation at the Davos Economic Forum.
So yeah, I think you're going to see moves at the elite level, and that would actually make
a fair amount of sense.
ROSE: And things like the Strategic Economic Dialogue and so forth and –
DREZNER: And bilaterally, I mean, the U.S. has launched ambitious dialogues with
both China and India.
The interesting question in the future, I think, is going to be whether there's continued
political support for doing that at -- let's say after 2008, after the 2008 election. My
suspicion is, regardless of who's elected president, eventually they're going to come to the
same conclusion, but there might be some stumbling around in the first six months.
ROSE: Okay. Go forward. Where do you see this all trending in the next 10 to 20
years
DREZNER: In the next 10 to 20 years, it's going to be interesting. I think the
fundamental question is going to be whether, you know, the sort of shift that the Bush
administration has started and presumably will be continued by whoever wins in 2008 is
going to be successful both in bringing China and India into these institutions and also,
you know, roughly speaking, getting them to want the same things that we want.
I mean, the big $64,000 question is China's regime and, as you said, whether or not
China's regime maintains the current outlook -- the current regime type that it's got or
whether there's going to be some instability.
That said, I think the biggest problem you're going to have is trying to get countries on
the wane -- namely, the European Union -- to agree to arrangements that give these
countries greater -- you know, give these rising states greater power.