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Boston Eagles<br />

John Wieners, Lee Harwood,<br />

Lewis Warsh, William Corbett<br />

interviews by Kevin Ring<br />

With the help of writer Iain Sinclair I was able<br />

to contact English poet Lee Harwood who lives on<br />

England’s South Coast. I wanted to ask Lee about a<br />

photograph I’d seen in The Lewis Warsh issue of the<br />

American small press magazine Mimeo/Mimeo,<br />

published by James Birmingham and Kyle Schlesinger.<br />

The photo dates from 1972 and features Lee<br />

Harwood, Lewis Warsh, Bill Corbett and the late John<br />

Wieners. As you can see, it captures Wieners in a<br />

seemingly positive frame of mind. The picture is<br />

taken at Walden Pond. It is a winter’s day, I’m led to<br />

believe. Intrigued, I asked Lee Harwood about his<br />

recollections of the day the picture was taken by<br />

Judith Walker. (Lee Harwood’s second wife). But, let<br />

Lee Harwood relate his recollections, “It was in the<br />

winter of 1972/73. From left to right it’s John<br />

Wieners, me, Lewis Warsh and William Corbett.<br />

We’re standing by a frozen Walden Pond, Massachusetts.<br />

I remember John W had a gold lame jacket. At<br />

that time Warsh, Corbett and I edited a “little mag”<br />

called THE BOSTON EAGLE and included quite a<br />

bit of John Wieners’ poetry in it. We were all living in<br />

Boston then.<br />

Lewis and I used to go round and visit John at<br />

his apartment at 44 Joy Street, Boston. He served us<br />

with champagne and chocolate peppermint cremes on<br />

one occasion! He was a very dear and gentle man, but<br />

also subject to bouts of distressing mental illness.<br />

When he came out of hospital he was fine, but then<br />

he used to slowly go downhill. He organised some<br />

really good things, such as a sort of free open university<br />

at the Stone Soup Gallery where various people,<br />

mainly poets, such as Warsh and me, gave talks and<br />

readings of poets like O’Hara, Ashbery, etc. I think<br />

John W talked about Olson. He also co-edited, with<br />

Jack Powers, in 1973 an anthology/magazine titled<br />

Stone Soup Poetry. The gallery was what you might now<br />

call “left wing,” though at that time there was a lot of<br />

radical thinking and demonstrations going on in the<br />

USA.<br />

That early (Wieners) book, The Hotel Wentley<br />

Poems, just bowled me over when I first read it and<br />

still does. The power and emotion and tenderness of<br />

those poems is, for me, quite exceptional when<br />

compared with a lot of the Beat poets.”<br />

Talking to Lee Harwood let me to both<br />

William Corbett and Lewis Warsh. Both remembered<br />

the time well and gave me a few of their memories.<br />

Bill Corbett: Here’s the photo I have on my<br />

wall. There is at least one other with John resting his<br />

arm against a tree and me in the background.<br />

Were the photo in color you would see that the light<br />

patches on John’s jacket are gold lame. There must be<br />

an accent there! I don’t remember why we settled on<br />

Walden Pond except that it’s such an obvious literary<br />

landmark. It was an unremarkable afternoon but for<br />

the photo.<br />

I asked Bill Corbett why were all four of you<br />

together that day by the pond?<br />

Bill Corbett: Lee, Lewis and I had started the mimeo<br />

magazine The Boston Eagle. One of our reasons was to<br />

feature John’s work. We wanted a photo of the editors<br />

and John for the back cover thus the trip to Walden<br />

Pond. The magazine was the first, and one of a very<br />

few, mimeo mags published in Boston. Lewis, who<br />

had come from NYC to live in Cambridge, came up<br />

with the idea. The magazine lasted three issues. I<br />

doubt that I have a single copy.<br />

From Bill Corbett, I spoke to Lewis Warsh,<br />

with whom I’ve had fleeting contact with in the past.<br />

He features on the front cover of Beat Scene 51 with<br />

Anne Waldman. I asked him - Lee Harwood talks of<br />

you and he going to Joy Street. Peppermint cremes<br />

and champagne. Stone Soup Gallery, The Boston<br />

Eagle, etc. What can you recall of the photo?<br />

Lewis Warsh: Lee Harwood and I first met in<br />

the mid-1960s in New York, and Angel Hair Books,<br />

which I was co-editing with Anne Waldman, published<br />

his book The Man With Blue Eyes in 1967. In<br />

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