Todd: Explain the whole anti-drug thing.Nate: Well, basically, the government got abunch of money to do a campaign to deterkids from drugs and they call it the antidrug.They had ideas such as tennis. If youplay tennis, you won’t smoke crack. I tried.I played tennis for awhile and I still wantedto do drugs. It didn’t work.Zach: Particularly crack.Nate: Crack especially. So, I smoked crack,I played tennis, and my tennis game waspretty off. It didn’t work.Todd: So, how does a band, collectively,go to Dubuque, Iowa, and find a drinkinggoat?Nate: It was great.Zach: That was a complete accident.Brad: We didn’t even have a show inDubuque.Zach: That was supposed to be the end ofthe tour. Then we played with Hot Carl,who are from there. We played with them inIowa City and they asked, “Would you guysbe interested in playing a show tomorrownight in our hometown?” “Isthere a show?” They’re like,“No. But we can set one up.”We’re like, “Why the hell not?”So we show up. It was incredible.We played in this shittygarage on this farm and therewas a beer-drinking goat. Therewas a crazy fuckin’ dude in aSpider Man costume dancingeverywhere. It was a great showon an hour’s notice. He calledeveryone he knew and there were a hundredkids packed in this tiny garage. It was great.Brad: And the guy who he got the goatfrom, he won it in a bet. He had to streak infront of a thousand people and he won agoat and sixteen dollars. It was somethingridiculous like that. The goat got attackedby a dog a day before we were there, so partof its head was bloody and messed up. Butthe goat wouldn’t drink anything else. Youcould go up to it and give it water or coffee.It would shy away. But beer, it would guzzlea can in a couple seconds and try to eatthe can.Zach: You’ve got to make the goat eat thecan. That’s a rule.Brad: He would eat cigarettes and spit outthe filter.Paddy: Let me get this straight. This isSpider Man’s goat?Brad: Yeah. I don’t remember his realname.Paddy: Who could ever think that Iowacould be so cosmopolitan?Zach: That was a great goat.Brad: He came to a kind of tragic end. Thelast time we were in Dubuque, we werelike, “Where’s Sammy the Goat?” “Well, Idon’t know. He died. He got killed andwe’re not sure if it was from the drinking orthe fact that somebody spray painted him.”They’re thinking, I want a pink goat. Orsomething. The guy had three new goats,apparently, so I don’t know what statethey’re in right now. They’re probablybuilding up their tolerance right now.Paddy: Suddenly, I want to tour Iowa.Todd: Is today the worst day of your life?Brad: Actually, no. I haven’t had a job inmonths.Zach: I didn’t go to work today and I alsodidn’t show up on Friday when I was supposedto. It’s a shitty fucking pizza parlor inMinneapolis and I don’t recommend it.Paddy: Is the drummer from Onward ToMayhem still your manager?Zach: He’s not my manager.Todd: So, what was the worst day of yourlife?Brad: Probably the first day I got a job. Itwas at Toys R Us.Zach: Your first job was at Toys R Us?Brad: I delivered newspapers and shitbefore that, which was also terrible. In themiddle of winter, I’d get chased around bydogs and stuff. The Toys R Us job was horrible.It was during the Christmas season, soall these people came in asking for specifictoys. I quit during the Christmas seasonbecause some lady came up and began askingabout Power Wheels. I was like, “Fuckthis. I don’t know anything about PowerWheels. I can’t fake it anymore. I don’tknow.” You had to wear this ridiculoussmock.Paddy: I’m actually very curious to knowwhat was Nate Gangelhoff’s worst day ofhis life.Nate: Hmm. It was probably a job. I wasprobably working at a blowgun factory. Oh,yeah, shit.Paddy: I don’t even know if you should tellthe anecdote that goes along with that. Thatshould just be in big letters as the quote.Was this when you were living in Bolivia?Nate: It the western suburbs ofMinneapolis, in Long Lake. I needed a job.I was in high school. I needed some quickmoney and I heard about the blowgun factory.Why not? The thing they said was youget paid per blowgun. The people workingthere were like cyborgs. They could makeblowguns really fast. Six hundred bucks aweek. I said, “Okay, that’s good money.” Imake them pretty slow. I’m making tenbucks a week and it wasn’t as good. Thefirst day I realize I’m making blowguns fora dollar an hour.Zach: How many blowguns could youprobably turn out in an hour?Nate: I’d say two. You have a piece of thepipe and another piece of the pipe and youput them together and you put a baggie ofthe dart things in a big bag. I’d do it, butman, I’d think, “This sucks. I’m making nomoney. I’m making blowguns.”Paddy: Where the fuck do you buy a blowgun?Is there that big of a market? Where isthere a Tribesmen R Us? “Hey man, deerhunting season’s starting on Friday. Betterget to the blowgun shop.”Zach: Were they real blowguns or toyblowguns?Nate: They’re real blowguns. It was, like,Blowguns Are We or something. The dudewho owned the company, his license platesaid “BLOWGUN.” I said, “Man, fuck you,man. You’re getting rich off me.” So, thelast day of work, I took a blowgun, walkedoutside, boom, boom, boom, boom, shot histires out. “Fuck you. I’m making sevencents an hour.” So that was the worst day ofmy life, ever, to date.Paddy: Let’s just cut to the chase. What’sthe importance of the movie Office Spaceand why does everybody have to see it?Zach: Holy shit, dude. That moviesums us up as a band… except wedon’t work in offices and that’skind of what the movie’s about.So, hell yeah.Paddy: I’ve always told all of myfriends from out of town, I’vebeen like, “It’s not just a sampleon their record. For these guys,it’s their religion.”Todd: Nate, you tried to breakinto a shopping mall once?Nate: I was fourteen. I went to a mall andwe were hanging out, trying to steal shit. Irealized we saw that the grate, door thing forthe mall was opened slightly, so we thought,“We’ll come back tonight, break in, andsteal some” – it was a hobby store – “modelplanes and sell them to kids or something.”Paddy: “Hey man, wanna buy a plane? Icould hook you up with a Jeep, man.”Nate: There’s an audience somewhere. Idon’t know. But we figured we’d come backthat night because it’s too obvious in themiddle of the day. We came back in themiddle of the night and came back there andit turned out that it actually was locked, sowe started going at it with a stick we foundin the driveway. We actually broke in. Weran in. My friend was a little too excited andhe threw open the door. The alarm went off.We had to run out and we were hiding in thegolf course next door. Basically, we ranhome the whole way from the suburbancops and we got nothing out of it. That wasmy experience with robbing a mall. I guessI’d recommend it, but we fell short.Paddy: You’ve got to keep trying.Nate: I’ll try again soon.Todd: Who left your merch box under thevan?Nate: That was Nick, our old guitar player.We were kind of drinking. I don’t knowwhat happened. Basically, we were drivingand we heard a crunching noise. “What thefuck is that? Dude, stop the car right now.
Don’t move.” We stop and look out and therecords were kinda crushed, but the thingwas we still sold them. They were still sellable.Little do the people know – tire trackson their record.Paddy: “Screen printed, man.”Brad: “We fuckin’ ran over every one ofthem individually.”Todd: So, what’s been the big holdup withreleasing stuff? You’ve been a band forthree and a half years, is that correct?Nate: We take our time, man.Todd: You have seven songs on vinyl – onetrack on the No Hold Back, All Attack comp.So that’s, on average, roughly one songevery six months.Zach: That’s a lot better than we do in reallife. We’re slow with the writing process.I’m pretty picky about what we even playlive.Brad: It’s got a lot to do with different peoplebeing out of town at different times. I’mnot in Minneapolis that much. I’m here, onaverage, seven months out of theyear.Paddy: Even when you’re here,you’re not really here. I’ve seen youmore than enough times with a beerbottle in you hand and you don’teven know who I am.Todd: Name an influence you can’tdeny that is in your music.Zach: Screeching Weasel.Nate: Pinhead Gunpowder… Dee-Lite.Zach: Shit, I don’t know, man.Simple Plan.Nate: Bowling For Soup. It’s kind ofsad that it’s come to the point whereit’s third generation Blink 182,where they’re ripping off NewFound Glory. They’re ripping off asong – their hit single is this song fora community college in Minneapolis.Zach: That National AmericanUniversity tune. “One day, one night.Saturday’s all right. My mom’s justfine.”Nate: And their hit single is that song.Zach: And they don’t live here. Whatthe fuck?Paddy: Actually, it’s funny becauseyou bring up what I always find interestingwith you guys. If I put youguys in anything, the first thing Iwould bring up would beCrimpshrine, Screeching Weasel, butI’ve realized in the last couple yearsthat it’s a hard time bringing that up.It conjures up different connotationsbecause for the better part of the ‘90s,there were shitty bands who werelumped with that but they didn’t actuallysound like that.Zach: It’s really shitty when someonesays your band sounds like ScreechingWeasel and The Queers. Even if youdo, it’s a shitty thing to say.Paddy: What do you think you guyspicked up from that that was so rightthat literally thousands of bands throughthe ‘90s somehow picked up on but somehowpicked up all the wrong aspects?Zach: You can’t base your band around asong like “Totally.” It’s a good song, butfuckin’-a, dude. There’s so much more topop punk, and particularly ScreechingWeasel.Brad: For me growing up, I loved all thatpop punk shit. I’d go through MRR andread their reviews and stuff would say“Screeching Weasel, Queers,” and generally,back then, I would buy it. Then I’d belike, “What the fuck is this? This soundslike the Parasites.” Lyrically, especially. Itseemed like people were associatingScreeching Weasel with a sound morethan something other than that. For me, Iwas always more into The Vindictives andScreeching Weasel than The Queers. Iliked The Queers musically and I grew upliking them, but Screeching Weasel andThe Vindictives, actually did somethingfor me. Their lyrics are good.Nate: Bowling For Soup, the result is sobad.Zach: “I want to be sedated. All I wantedwas to see her naked.”Brad: I’ll fuckin’ belt fight them any fuckin’day.Nate: But that’s what they take out of it. I’massuming that they grew up on ScreechingWeasel and The Queers, the same bands wedid, and the result that pop culture gets isthese hit singles that are bad and generic.Todd: So, what did you guys pull out of itthat other people are unable to? I’ll admit,the first time I listened to your 7”, I was like,“Ah, that’s pretty good.” But sitting downand listening to it over and over again, it gotaddictive.Nate: Screeching Weasel, at least lyrically,take “It’s All in My Head” vs. “Totally.”There’s a certain dark, cool side to theirsongs.Brad: I’ve always liked songsthat somehow, in a way, documenta certain thing in a periodof time where the person writingit lives in. That’s why I loveWoody Guthrie. That’s why I likefolk music. That’s what I thinkpunk rock should be. Even hardcorebands, they’ll write aboutpolitical things in some othercountry that really doesn’t relateto them and that’s fine and goodand some bands pull it off, but Ireally like stuff that’s very specificto their place and time. I thinkMinneapolis is really fortunatewith a lot of bands that pull thatoff. I didn’t like hardcore at allwhen I heard Man Afraid andthey, along with Born Against,made me realize that there’s actuallysomething to a lot of thesehardcore bands. It’s not somethingI was into originally, musically,but then I got really into it. I thinka lot of people bought the BornAgainst/Screeching Weasel splitand they either liked BornAgainst or they liked ScreechingWeasel, but, for me, it was a brilliantidea. I like both bands. Itmade sense.Todd: What is “Never Three ona Match”?Brad: The song title is just adumb thing that comes from anold navy, sailor thing. Whenthey’re on a ship, you could lighta match to light a cigarette. Youcould light two cigarettes with it,but if you light three, you werein danger of being seen from theflame.Paddy: I actually grew up withthat, too. I remember when I wasa kid, that was bad luck.45