from the scene. Not too much, but everyone’strying to do their own thing. Thebands are getting better, though.Jim: Yeah, everyone’s really helpful witheach other. They really look out for eachother. I agree with Robert. In my mind,scenes go in cycles and this a really goodpart of the cycle. All the bands are young,they look out for each other, and it’s reallyexciting because everyone’s in it together.But sometimes, as bands record, it drawsthem away.Robert: At first we were all playing together,then they started getting offered stuffand being more selective about their shows.Jim: There gets to be a little bit of a competitionfor shows.necessarily how much we can get paid,‘cause we don’t make shit.Robert: It’s also important that differentpeople see us as much as possible.Jim: Yeah. In that case, we could’ve stayedin Buffalo and played to the same 200 peopleat every show.Robert: You want us to name bands?Jim: Well, I don’t want to forget anyone.Petite: Fuck it. If there’s good bands, namethem so people can get a head’s up.I’d at least like to know.Jim: My favorite Chicago band is theFunctional Blackouts. They’re really good,like the Pagans meet the Germs but realcatchy. We play with them a lot. By far,pursue that. We want to play to other peopleand we want to play to kids who are active.I’d rather play to a kid in a basement who’sgoing to be excited about seeing somethingnew than to someone in their late twentieswho’s just going to drink a beer and theshow’s just something that’s going on.Robert: Yeah, like they don’t care that it’sTexas Terri who’s just playing bad covers.Jim: We definitely pursue those kinds ofoptions. When some says, “Hey you guysare cool. I do this or that.” I think, “Wow,that sounds fun.” There’s a definite goodscene in Chicago in this area called Pilsen.It’s mostly Mexican and they have all thesecrazy hardcore shows and we get invited toplay them.Petite: Is that something you guys stayaway from? Not being picky or pretentious?Jim: I guess. We’re picky, but at the sametime we’ll play a party in someone’s basementif we think it’s the fun thing to do. Wejust played a mustache party in a guy’sbasement.Petite: What’s that?Jim: Everyone had to have a mustache tobe at the party.Robert: And we’ll play basement shows‘cause it’s a good thing for us to do.Jim: We’re picky, in a way, of what we dobut not based on whether it’s a career moveor how much we’re going to get paid.Picky, as in we’re only going to play once amonth so people don’t get sick of us. Wewant it to be the best time we can have, notthough, there’s a lot of really good Chicagobands. Our scene encompasses a lot of differentsounds. A lot of people in our sceneare older, like twenty-five and up. ThePonys are really good; they’re going to beon In The Red. The Hot Machines, a bandcalled VD that are good, a band called theDirges who’ve got a Baseball Fury in theband and Ross from the Brides, the Worst,and an all-girl band called the Manhandlers.Robert: There’s a lot of bands and everyonewill hear them.Jim: For some reason, hardcore kids like usas well and we get invited to play a lot ofhardcore shows, which those other bands inour scene don’t get asked to play.Petite: Why do you think that happens?Jim: I think the other bands are a little toogaragey and more of “a thing.” Also, weRobert: They have these weird spacesthey find where they do shows.Jim: And the kids are really cool and veryactive.Robert: We played with a cool Mexicanhardcore band.Jim: There’s a lot of scenes and we’relucky we’ve branched out to a couple ofthem. It’s nice playing to people you don’tknow. I always think it’s kind of weirdwhen I see someone with a Tyrades pinwho I don’t know. I almost want to belike, “Who are you? Let’s be friends,” Orlike, “What’s wrong with you? Is that myfriend’s jacket? Did you steal that?”Frank: “What mistakes have you made inlife?”Petite: How’s the transition been for you,Frank, moving from Atlanta to Chicago?
Frank: Chicago’s fun. Atlanta’s great andthere’s a great scene down there. There’s alot of great bands, but Chicago’s great, too.The weather in Chicago is god-awful! Icould never ever get used to that shit!There’s so much snow. It’s like Sweden!It’s ridiculous.Jim: It’s not that bad!Robert: I don’t even know how Sweden is,though.Frank: It’s probably not half as bad asChicago.Petite: Well, it doesn’t snow in the south,right?Frank: It snows like once a year.Jim: They close everything and peoplehave panic attacks for, like, an inch ofsnow.Frank: Well,since it doesn’tJim: Oh, you were there?Petite: Do you remember the guys rollingaround on the floor and the girl who set thetrash can on fire?Robert: That’s the only thing I ever mentionabout that show. There were only fivepeople there and for no reason this girl setsa trash can on fire!Petite: I was standing next to you guyswhile she’s pulling the trashcan out andthen she got these little bags with a candleand threw them in there. You guys werelaughing and I looked over at you andshrugged my shoulders. They wanted tofight Greg Lowery afterwards (the ZodiacKillers played that show too). If youremember, my friend grabbed the mic fromGreg and he got mad and stopped the song.Jim: Well, I’d think we’re more arty thannew wave. I’ve seen reviews that say we’renew wave. We’re not a new wave band atall. We’re trying to make a twist on somethingthat is more arty than new wave.There’s little weird parts that aren’t by-thenumberspunk rock.Jenna: It’s different listening to the recordand seeing a live show.Robert: The record’s a little more straightforward.Jim: The record’s in tune!Petite: I have a confession to make! Ireviewed your “Detonation” single.Robert: You’re the one who talked shitabout it!Petite: Yeah. No, no I didn’t! I didn’t talkshit. I actually really, really liked it, but Ihappen often,the city and thestate don’t knowhow to deal with it well, so schools getclosed if there’s a quarter-inch of snow onthe ground. Whereas in Chicago, there’s afoot of snow on the ground and you have topretend that it’s not there. You have to drivearound, walk to the store, and do all this shitand act like it’s not there.Robert: Basically, Frankie loves it.Jim: He’s really happy about the move.Frank: Thrilled.Petite: So you guys just came out with analbum.Robert: We’re not on tour because of it.We needed to tour and the record came outback in September. It helps to have therecord with us on tour, money-wise. Wehave an LP, three singles, and some compilationstuff, with more singles coming out.Jim: The record’s on Broken Rekids out ofSan Francisco.Petite: What’s it like?Robert: The record? It’s like orange orblue.Petite: I mean, what does it sound like?Jim: It’s like, paa-ur-paa-urm-crap-crap.Frank: It’s like 1-2-3-4-SUCK! At 45 revolutionsper minute, or wait, 33.Jim: Well, at 45 it’s like [read fast] 1-2-3-4-SUCK!Petite: Like the Chipmunks?Jim: Yeah, but not that good. Not with thatmuch talent.Robert: Kind of if like the chubbyChipmunk, Theodore, had a solo project.Yeah, well, the record is out and it’s notselling as well as we’d hoped. But hey,what the heck.Petite: You guys said you sucked tonightbut I’m sorry, you didn’t suck. I blame thecrowd.Robert: It wasn’t great.Petite: I’ve seen you guys once before. Doyou guys remember the last time you playedhere in LA at Johnny Fox’s?I met Greg a couple months later and toldhim it was my friend. I was laughing aboutit and he was not amused.Robert: It was funny… I mean, that trashcan.That was definitely fucking around andbeing stupid.Jim: I didn’t even understand it. I justthought, “I can’t believe this is my life.What’s happened to me?” The Orphans arefrom here and there still wasn’t anyonethere. They got kicked out of the bar,though.Robert: Well, they came back in. They hadto just to bring the bar capacity to twelve.LA has been an interesting place for us. Weeither play to twelve people or with twelvebands.Petite: You guys really don’t sound likeanything I can definitively put my finger on.Why do you that is?Jim: I think we all kind of like similarthings but we all have our own tastes, too.Robert: We have different backgrounds interms of stuff but it works out.Jim: A lot of the stuff I try to write is punkrock but I want it to be interesting at thesame point. I would almost like to be in anart rock band but like I can’t do that ‘cause Idon’t have enough talent and I don’t reallyunderstand what they’re doing. I don’t thinkpeople in art rock bands do either, for thatmatter. So it’s kind of like my attempt atwriting art rock songs, which I can’t do, soit just comes out as punk rock songs withthese stupid parts that are just kind of different,I guess.Robert: We use the punk idea ‘cause we’reall sort of retarded and we’ll always havethat element. But then we try to make itmore than we really are and that’s when wecome out with what we have. It alwaysstays simple, though.Petite: I wouldn’t think of you as arty. Doyou guys think that?mentioned something about Jenna’s vocals.I was thinking about this about six monthsafter I wrote it and I haven’t written anotherrecord review ‘cause I was so disappointedthat I said it without really thinking.Robert: What’d you say?Petite: I said that her vocals sounded likeshe was trying to sound like she had aBritish accent.Jim: Oh, yeah, yeah.Jenna: Oh yeah, I remember that.Petite: Then one day I was listening to it inthe car and I was like, “What the fuck was Ithinking? Now I have to interview them in acouple weeks and I’m going to feel likesuch a dickwad. I hope they don’t put twoand two together.”Jim: I read that review.Robert: I did, too.Jim: I was like, “That person’s a fuckingjerk! If I ever see them, I’m gonna kill’em.”Petite: I did the same thing with anExploding Hearts single.Robert: You should see our record reviews.Jim: Yeah, they’re pretty bad.Petite: You guys review?Robert: Yeah. Jim, Frank, and me.Jim: I’m horrible. I say the word “great”three times in every review. I’m like: “Thisrecord’s great. The record cover’s great.The drumming’s great.”Robert: I actually don’t even talk about therecord. Like, if they have a shitty name, I’lltalk about that and branch out off of that.Frank always has a cool catchphrase at theend of each oneJim: Like, “I didn’t do it.”Robert: Or “Check, please.”Jim: Yeah, Frank, after we sucked tonight,you should’ve been like, “Check,please!”Frank: Class dismissed.55