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1011:02:501 I discovered, and the first date in that is November 1984 and there is another2 19 <strong>of</strong> those and they are every shred <strong>of</strong> tax information I have discovered. Now3 why was <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin not given a similar order? And can somebody explain A4 was he given an order and B did he comply with the order?11:03:1456 CHAIRMAN: Well as I said yesterday that matter will be dealt with by the7 <strong>Tribunal</strong>, and if we deem it appropriate to the make an order we'll do so.8 Because this is only the early stages <strong>of</strong> the module there is plenty <strong>of</strong> time to9 deal with any discovered information that comes <strong>into</strong> the <strong>Tribunal</strong> in the weeks11:03:3510 or months ahead. So -- wait now, <strong>Mr</strong>. Lawlor, these are matters that can be11 dealt with, they don't have to be dealt with today. We are keen that, because12 we only have until lunchtime today and then again tomorrow, for you to conclude13 your cross-examination. Any matters that arise, any documentation that comes14 to the <strong>Tribunal</strong> in the weeks or months ahead and which are relevant to11:04:0215 <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin's evidence will be dealt with, <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin will be recalled if16 necessary in the future, even <strong>before</strong> phase two, to deal with matters that17 arise, and you will be given an opportunity to cross examine him in relation to18 any such documentation that comes to the <strong>Tribunal</strong>.1911:04:2020 MR. LAWLOR: I aye appreciate your flexibility in this matter <strong>Chairman</strong> but it's21 more fundamental than that. <strong>The</strong> Sole Member didn't adopt the same flexible22 attitude by any stretch <strong>of</strong> the imagination and the order that I got I would23 have thought <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin should have got. And that whatever tax records he24 has should long have been discovered to the <strong>Tribunal</strong>. And I therefore asking11:04:4525 the chair and your two learned colleagues, did <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin get a defective26 order or order that didn't embrace cheque stubs and tax returns which is an27 order I got and others got. It is not acceptable <strong>Mr</strong>. Gilmartin either didn't28 get an order or got a defective order. But there is something awry here when29 <strong>Mr</strong>. Gallagher has to start going <strong>of</strong>f checking his orders. He has issued so11:05:1130 many orders he should be able to talk about them in his sleep. But yetPremier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 474

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