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810:59:121 Mr. Gallagher's opening statement and questioning of Mr. Gilmartin?23 Mr. Gallagher and Mr. Hanratty are investigating this matter for the last five4 or six years and now Mr. Gallagher is trying to tell us, as far as Arlington is10:59:275 concerned, at the end of the process Mr. Gilmartin has confirmed that there was6 no political interference in the failure of the project, there was never a7 planning application made, so therefore under A5 of your Terms of Reference8 nobody could have sought inducement for interfering in the planning process.910:59:4610 CHAIRMAN: Mr. Lawlor at this stage we are not going to listen to submissions11 as to whether or not we are properly investigating this particular module. We12 are satisfied that the matters which have come to public hearing are matters13 which should properly be investigated by us. You can certainly make14 submissions at the end of the module as to views you might have as to the11:00:1715 relevancy of the evidence and so on, to the Terms of Reference. But a decision16 has been taken for some time that under the Terms of Reference we have to17 investigate the matters that are now being investigated and if it transpires,18 if it transpires at the end of the day, that the evidence does not support the19 case being made by Mr. Gilmartin, then so be it. And that would be part of our11:00:4020 report.2122 The fact that we are examining these matters doesn't necessarily mean that we23 are going to find fault with them.2411:00:4725 MR. LAWLOR: Well the only point is Mr. Gilmartin is on evidence in this module26 that I never received a penny regarding his Liffey Valley/Westpark project so27 that's one point I will make.2829 But in response to Mr. Gallagher who has been investigating the matter --11:01:0430 sorry, just that Mr. Gallagher is labouring on and trying to suggest that thePremier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 474