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3011:43:151 clear how he sees himself, the Tribunal is well able to decide what in fact he2 might have been or what cloak he operated under when he was concerned with3 Quarryvale.411:43:265 MR. LAWLOR: Well you see the problem I have Chairman is that elected members6 such as myself and council officials were having to decide whether we put our7 faith and trust in a gentleman to develop a town centre for us. That's what I8 am trying to establish, is how viable and why should I vote for it or switch9 the zoning from Balgaddy to Quarryvale which is a momentous planning decision11:43:4810 to change a 20 year plan, we were confronted with the choice and had to make a11 choice and eventually did make a choice.1213 So I will move on Chairman.14 Q. 79 I just want if go on Mr. Gilmartin and I won't be very long, the land11:44:0115 valuations associated with your various transactions. You said in evidence16 that you recognised maybe in a fit of pique that the Balgaddy lands were only17 worth 10,000 pounds an acre. Now would you concur with that or withdraw that?18 A. I wasn't referring to the Balgaddy lands.19 Q. 80 What lands were you referring to?11:44:2020 A. Lands in that area.21 Q. 81 Okay.22 A. I wasn't, if you are referring to the Neilstown site I was not referring to23 that.24 Q. 82 Okay. You would agree with me because it's in the documents Mr. Gilmartin that11:44:3325 Mr. Gubay's contract put the value at 90,900 when he successfully put a26 proposal to the Corporation, wouldn't that be right?27 A. He didn't successfully, he withdrew and didn't go ahead because it wasn't28 viable.29 Q. 83 No the question is the price paid to the Corporation was 90,900 per acre in the11:44:5530 documents let's not get bogged down with the rights and wrongs. There isPremier Captioning & Realtime Limitedwww.pcr.ie Day 474