Notes - Ealing Council

Neighbourhood GovernanceNote of Hobbayne Ward Forum Meeting______________________________________________________________________________________Hobbayne Ward Forum meeting – held on Tuesday 16 th September 2008 at 7.00pm at Brentside High School W7.Present: Councillors Costello (chair), Greenhead, PophamAttendees: over 70 people attended with 60 people signing the attendance sheet.Note taker: Evelyn Gloyn (EG) - Neighbourhood Co-ordinator South1/2NoteAction Point/InformationThere was an informal welcome from 7pm with people being offered light refreshments and the meeting was called to order at7:20 pm in the Assembly Hall, in Brentside High School. The room was set out with 8 chairs around each of 10 tables. Peoplecould choose where to sit.Cllr Costello (chair) opened the meeting with introductions, an explanation of the role of the ward forums, gave a brief updateon current issues, opened the forum to enable the attendees to raise concerns related to current issues and then gave residentstime to come up with suggestions on how to spend £40,000 in the ward.Papers available at the meeting were an agenda with a table of current projects, a map of the ward on each table indicatingcurrent projects, and Traffic calming consultation forms.1

Note3 Current Issuesa) Hanwell Town Centre Regeneration (£1million)Action Point/InformationRefurbishment of the Hanwell Clock Tower and setting up of Traders associations.Light columns for Church Road to Hanwell Bridge are to be mock-heritage style lights.Discussions held with St Mellitus church regarding finishing their works and St Joseph’s church is also looking to make visualimprovements to the outside of the church.There will be shop front improvement schemes to encourage traders and visual merchandising training to help traders learn topresent goods and improve.There is a programme of street improvements and improvements to signage.b) Hanwell Community CentreThis has £2 million upgrade to its structure and to make it watertight. In the process of appointing professional designconsultants, getting quotes and timescales together, for 2 options:Minimal time that the centre is totally closedPhased works over timeConsultation has gone out to 11,700 homes and 1,083 responses were received, users of the centre were also consulted viafocus groupsc) Brent Park Action PlanReplace the litter bins (12 identified £8,400) and new metal benches (8 identified £8,800). Metal benches are better at resistingvandals and fire. Refurbishment of the shrub beds (£25 per square metre) near the Brent Lodge animal Centre.The millennium maze-interpretation sign needs replacement (£3, 000).Refurbishment of the kissing gates (costing £4,000).Nicola Masters will match fund any benches or bins ‘supplied’ by the ward and has confirmed that the timber benches will bekept until they are not serviceable-then they have to be replaced with metal ones.2

Noted) City Car Club4 new city car club spaces in the ward, possible for residents to hire for 1 hour, hasnegotiated a deal to reduce the joining fee to £75. If you travel less than 50 miles youdon’t pay any petrol or insurance.Dryden AvenueTennyson RoadCampbell Road, outside Hanwell train stationListed on Hanwell Village Green Residents Association and Lawns Residents Associationwebsites.Action Point/InformationCity Car ClubContact0845 3301234www.citycarclub.co.ukor WhizzgoContact08444 779966www.whizzgo.co.ukhttp://www.mazefind.co.uk/cgibin/cms/ohra.pl?content_id=1033734932&session_id=http://www.lawnshanwell.co.uk/e) High Lane Hut£13,000 for refurbishment and hoping to proceed soon. It has recently sustained fire damage inside but is structurally sound.f) Road & footpath resurfacing/lightsThere is £8.5 million this year and streets are allocated through a rating system. Roads are re-rated annually.Programme of street lighting replacement in ongoing.And there are proposals to put in 2 stop and shop bays on Bordars Road.g) Traffic Calming consultationIntroduced the review being conducted by scrutiny and invited residents to fill in their comments and return them to the council.3

NoteIssues raised from the floor1. Concern about replanting of trees by November and the cast iron lampposts inChurchfields.Action Point/InformationThe Chair confirmed these wouldbe planted by November but thecast iron lampposts issue was lesseasy to resolve.2. What is happening about the Church Road/Uxbridge Road crossing? Still waiting for a response fromTfL.3. A governor from Hobbayne Primary School) said cllrs had supported improvements inaccess to the school.Work has started on road markingsigns in Dryden Avenue and afeasibility study will be done for apelican crossing on Greenford Aveoutside the school (not a zebracrossing).Cllr Costello directed all that the money is to be used for things, but not those done normally, but it can bring forward jobs so youdon’t have to wait as long.4. Concern about lampposts being black and need to be careful of gaps when doingdropped kerbs -both adversely affect people with disabilities.5. The consultation documents for the Hanwell Community Centre were only in English;suggest they should be in other languages too.6. What lights will be put across Church fields? - Those left over from the Heritagezone?EG to look into black lamppostsfurther, other concerns should bereported to the council on 020 88256000, or emailcustomers@ealing.gov.ukConsultation was done inaccordance with current councilpolicyIf we are going to have the cast ironcolumns we will have to wait untilthe Heritage Zone is completed.7. Concerns about safety in Brent Park at midday and afternoons. Concern to be forwarded to wardsergeant8. Disappointment with Bunny Park opening hours, only open for 1.5 hours-no good ifyou travel far, also no rabbits any more.Comment noted4

NoteAction Point/Information9. The feeling that some people do not want metal benches in the park. Some residents Comment noted but advised thatrequested wooden benches for Brent River Park; but despite those residents being the council’s current policy for parkasked what they wanted, they felt they were being ignored.benches is to be replaced withmetal benches as these are moreresilient to vandalism, graffiti etc.10. Concern raised over use of CCTV cameras-it was unwelcome. Comment noted4 Suggestions from the floor on how to spend the £40k budget are in the following table. They also include suggestions receivedfrom ‘mywardmatters’ email, tel requests to the neighbourhood co-ordinator and directly from Cllrs.The meeting concluded at 8.55pmHANWELL TOWN CENTRENo. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation1 Festival decorations and lights Elthorne ward2 Pedestrian phasing on lights – Uxbridge road Elthorne ward3 Heritage lights on Uxbridge Road (Shirley Gdns to Church Road) Elthorne ward4 Keep granite kerb stones Elthorne ward5 Area outside Lidl’s – benches, public toilets and notice board Elthorne wardHANWELL COMMUNITY CENTRE/ PARKNo. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation1 Museum, Art Gallery Input to HCC consultation2 Activity centre for teenagers Input to HCC consultation3 Diseased trees in Cuckoo park Have Advised parks4 Rest garden in Cuckoo park One there already5 Hedge around community centre needs cutting back Have Advised parks6 Regenerate park; football pitches; bowling green Try to get MUGA updated7 Support for community centre Input to HCC consultation8 Separate area for dogs in C. P Not feasible9 Facilities for disabled/special need and general teenagers adventure park (similar to Logcabin)Input to HCC consultation5

No. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation10 HCC needs softening with wisteria/Virginia creeper Input to HCC consultation11 Dog-poo bins in park Investigate possibilities12 Pathway in Cuckoo park Cuckoo Park needs to belooked at holisticallyCUCKOO ESTATENo. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation1 Dog-poo bins around the Avenue & Kennedy path/Harp Rd) Investigate possibilities2 Restore railing around the estate Investigate possibilities3 Notice board in Bordars Rd Ask officers for quote4 Support Hanwell carnival Will pay for half the traffic order5 Door knocking campaign to increase take up of food waste recycling scheme and other Investigate possibilitiesrecycleables6 Garden at EASEBRENT PARKNo. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation1 Tourist information Centre (HCC??) Input to HCC consultation2 Activity Centre (see HCC) Input to HCC consultation3 Extend car park Not feasible4 Subsidise café’ during winter months Revenue spend. Can’t do5 Bunnies in park Investigate possibilities6 Wooden benches Fund metal benches as acompromise. Last longer, andless susceptible to vandals7 Retain Windsor topped lights in footpath Investigate possibilities8 Refurbish and bring up to standard the Bunny park animal centre S106 being spent in therealready on pond9 Resurface play area (getting loose) Play area in cuckoo park inworst condition10 Put hoggin path down from the back of the maze over to the bridge near the cricketgroundInvestigate possibilities6

HIGH LANE (HANWAY) ESTATE and PILGRIMS ESTATENo. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation1 High Lane community space Push for hut to be repaired2 Suitable crossing at High Lane playground No accidents in 5 years3 Football pitch in High Lane Investigate possibilities4 Facilities for young people (skate park, BMX track, MUGA) Investigate possibilities5 More street lighting PFI roll out continues6 Community facilities (building for kids clubs/pre-school playgroups etc.) Investigate possibilities7 Play area for teenagers on pilgrims estate Feasibility study on possibleoptionsHIGHWAYS & TRAFFIC MANAGEMENTNo. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation1 Reduce height of speed humps Wait for 20mph scrutiny panelrecommendations2 DDA drop kerb reaching the road (lamp post should not be black) Advise officers3 Extend yellow lines from corner of Browning road to bus stop Officer drawing up plans4 Mini roundabout in Drayton Bridge Road Investigate possibilities5 Drayton Bridge Road and Greenford Avenue junction – improve timing of traffic lights to Did this last yearstop jams in Greenford avenue6 Rumble strips instead of speed humps Too noisy7 Speed cameras on Greenford Avenue from Ruislip Road East Investigate possibilities8 Speed monitors Investigate possibilities9 Pavement or similar parking for narrow roads Too expensive10 Double yellow lines on both corners of junction at Mayfield Gdns/High Lane and Beresford Investigate possibilitiesAvenue/Greenford Avenue11 Grass grid on green areas for parking Too expensive, alsoconservation area12 Street lights in Browning Avenue replaced Will be done this year13 Traffic calming/flow management E11 route – Bridge avenue (road humps) enforcementof unsafe parking and Brookbank (yellow lines)Officer drawing up plans foryellow lines on BrookbankAvenue/Bridge Avenue. Speedhumps one will have to wait for7

No. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation20mph scrutiny panelrecommendations14 Resurfacing Gifford Gardens When rating is bad enough itwill be done15 Lighting along path between Bridge Avenue and Ruislip Road East Ask officers when will it be done16 Drayton Bridge Road – traffic calming (buses regularly going over 30 mph) Await 20mph scrutiny panelrecommendations17 Legalise pavement parking Can’t just do that. Footpathneeds strengthening.Expensive18 Resurface Ruislip Road When rating says it is badenough it will be done19 Improve street lighting where not done yet PFI programme still rolling out20 Parking problem in Framfield Road due to high number of business vehicles If under 5 tonnes they are legal21 Double yellows at entrance to Old Twelve Close to improve visibility Investigate possibility22 Repair footpath linking Studland Road to Gifford Gardens Investigate possibilities23 Stop and shop bays outside White Hart pub on Greenford Ave Officer drawing up plans24 Remove railings outside White Hart pub, up to beginning of zig zag only to make it easier Investigate possibilitiesfor passengers to get out of car, and easier to shop25 Arrow at the junction of Greenford Ave/Drayton Bridge Road to encourage traffic travelling Investigate possibilitiesnorth but turning into Drayton Bridge Road to pull up so cars behind can pass on insideand continue journey26 Footway parking on Greenford Ave from Grove Ave down to Hobbayne school to improve Investigate possibilitiesflow of traffic as buses have to stop here to allow traffic from opposite direction to clear27 Footway parking on Greenford Ave from Bordars Road to Homefarm Road as the road is Investigate possibilitiestoo narrow for buses to pass cars without slowing to a stop28 Footway parking on Drayton Bridge Road to improve the situation with cars parking badly Investigate possibilitieson the footpath29 Get people on Greenford Ave and Drayton Bridge Road to cut back overgrown hedges as Advise envirocrime officerthey often take 3ft off the footpath30 Alleygate alley from Laurie Road to Bordars Road Investigate possibilities31 Paint pictures of cyclists on Greenford Ave to advise cars that cyclists can use the roadtoo and to advise cyclists to use the road and not the footpathInvestigate possibilities8

MISCELLANEOUS (these concerns will be actioned as business as usual, not as suggestions for the ward forum budget spend)No. Note Action Point/Information Recommendation1 Make public garden off Ruislip Road (near River Brent)2 Street party3 Improve shops frontages at lower end of Greenford Ave (can we get the empty shops letrentstoo high!) e.g. broken pavements/tarmac on traders side /sorting out the un-usedshops on Greenford avenue.4 Restrictions/residents parking on Greenford Avenue near schools and car boot sales(targeted time restrictions)5 More parking on Brentside site6 Cycle lane on Greenford Avenue7 Sound system for meetings8 (Humane) culling of foxes, pigeons and squirrels9 Parking:Restrictions/residents parking on Greenford Avenue near schools and car boot sales(targeted time restrictions)More parking on Brentside site10 Safety:Lighting along path between Bridge Avenue and Ruislip Road EastCycle lane on Greenford Avenue?11 Noise reduction especially re Guy Fawkes and Diwali12 On-line map-facilities provided by the community not just the council-collaborative effort tobring info together?13 Getting local schools and children to feedback their views on their local area14 Footpath back to Hanwell station (Ch rd to Campbell Rd)15 White lines marked on the pavement if cars are allowed to park on the pavement(on Drayton Bridge Road to delineate parking area from footway and strengthen parkingsection to prevent damage16 Pedestrian crossings should change in the same time as in the LB Hounslow!17 Pedestrian crossing provided at Church Road/Uxbridge Road junction immediately18 Pedestrian crossing at Brentside lights and school19 Spreading information through Ealing Gazette, residents associations, hard copy, postersand ward notice boards, internet and website for Hobbayne ward-make it interactive withlinks to council, police, Brent Lodge etc20 Making use of redundant building e.g. Round House and Heath Lodge9

21 Identify a location for a Hanwell Heritage Centre and Brent Park Archive22 Apply to establish heritage quarter in Hanwell23 middle section of Greenford Avenue is in desperate need of re-surfacing- the centresection is riddled with pot holes that can damage cars and are potentially lethal tocyclists.Evelyn GloynDate: 13 th October 200810