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Q<br />

FOUNDR: Scientific<br />

data has suggested that<br />

the modern way of life<br />

is damaging. (Stressrelated<br />

illness is the<br />

leading cause of doctors’<br />

visits in the UK). Why<br />

then is the third metric a<br />

new discovery in the age<br />

of information? Why as a<br />

species have the majority<br />

of us opted to live in a<br />

way that is fundamentally<br />

unfulfilling to us?<br />

AH: We are living through an incredible time, when<br />

modern science is validating a lot of ancient wisdom.<br />

That’s why, in Thrive, I’ve included 55 pages of<br />

endnotes to convince even the most stubborn skeptic<br />

that we need to unplug, recharge and reconnect with<br />

ourselves, and by doing so, actually improve every<br />

aspect of our lives.<br />

So many of us have opted to live in a way that’s<br />

fundamentally unhealthy and unfulfilling because, as a<br />

society, we have been operating under the collective<br />

delusion that burning out is the necessary price for<br />

accomplishment and success. Recent scientific<br />

findings make it clear that this couldn’t be less true.<br />

Not only is there no tradeoff between living a wellrounded<br />

life and high performance, performance is<br />

actually improved when our lives include time for<br />

renewal, wisdom, wonder and giving.<br />

Q<br />

FOUNDR: On the<br />

subject of wisdom, we<br />

seem to be informationrich<br />

and wisdom-poor.<br />

Could you explain<br />

further the paradox<br />

that connectedness<br />

isn’t making us wiser?<br />

What sort of effect have<br />

you noticed this lack<br />

of wisdom having on<br />

society?<br />

Q<br />

FOUNDR: Much of<br />

Thrive’s beauty lies in<br />

embracing the tenets<br />

of ancient philosophy<br />

and wisdom and<br />

showing how valuable<br />

and applicable it is in<br />

our lives. Was there<br />

a specific time when<br />

you came to this<br />

realization?<br />

SUCCESS STORY<br />

AH: The first stages of the Internet were<br />

about data and more data. But now we<br />

have plenty of data — indeed, we’re<br />

drowning in it — and all the distraction<br />

we could ever hope for. Technology has<br />

been very good at giving us what we want,<br />

but not always what we need. Wherever<br />

we look around the world, we see smart<br />

leaders — in politics, in business, in media<br />

— making terrible decisions. What they’re<br />

lacking is not IQ, but wisdom. Which is no<br />

surprise; it has never been harder to tap<br />

into our inner wisdom, because in order<br />

to do so, we have to disconnect from all<br />

our omnipresent devices — our gadgets,<br />

our screens, our social media — and<br />

reconnect with ourselves.<br />

AH: Growing up in Athens, I was<br />

brought up on the classics and the<br />

Greek myths. They were taught<br />

to me not as ancient history, as<br />

my children learned them in their<br />

American classrooms, but as my<br />

personal roots and the source<br />

of my identity. Athena was the<br />

goddess of wisdom, and, for me,<br />

the idea of wisdom is forever<br />

identified with her — weaving<br />

together strength and vulnerability,<br />

creativity and nurturing, passion<br />

and discipline, pragmatism and<br />

intuition, intellect and imagination,<br />

claiming them all, the masculine<br />

and the feminine, as part of our<br />

essence and expression.

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