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PERFORMANCE .......................... Jon Ronson Psychopath Night II You’ve done Psychopath Nights tours before. What’s the difference this time? We’ve a couple of people appearing, and their stories and experiences are extraordinary. You should hear the gasps from the audience at the twists and turns. Their stories are diametrically opposed – I can’t say anything more – and that’s really important. We play a sort of trick on the audience. It begins as a ‘how to spot psychopaths’ thing, but then it’s about the vagaries of diagnoses, the complexities of being human. This being human. Far more to it than a symptom checklist… Yes, I think we’re living in incredibly judgmental times, naming and shaming, writing others off. I’m very aware that as I get older I’m more aware of human frailty and sadness. We all have flaws and biases, and being open about that is better than simply being ashamed about it. Then again, I do get annoyed when people say ‘Oh, there’s no such thing as mental illness, no such thing as anxiety disorder.’ I’d like it to be true, but I think otherwise. I also get cross at ivory tower academics who say the opposite, so I’ve a foot in both camps. I’m tolerant, I guess. Your tolerance was mightily tested when you confronted the academics who created the Jon Ronson twitter spambot and tweeted using your name. Anyone else would’ve lamped them… Oh, I did get cross with them! I think that’s as annoyed as I get. The entitled beliefs of academics. It became an important part of the So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed book, and it made me question that urge we can all have to shame others. When someone behaves badly, there’s usually something else going on… And you’ve a curiosity to find that something else? Yes, and I once abandoned a book about the banking and credit world because I found the people very boring. I couldn’t light up the page, because they were so dull. It would’ve come out at the moment of the last credit crunch, so it would’ve been the go-to book, perfect timing! I really admire people like Nick Hornby who can take small things, tiny minutiae, and make them gripping. That skillset is something I don’t have. Maybe I’ve a bit of ADD (attention deficit disorder), not in an extreme way, but I’ve a very short attention span. I find it hard to concentrate for more than a couple of hours, and as a reader I get very bored. It probably affects my subject matter, which has to be big and unusual things, and it’s probably why my books are relatively short. This throwing yourself into extreme worlds – Broadmoor, scientology, the porn industry, ultra-conspiracy theorists – has it left you pessimistic? At the moment I’m not optimistic. Actually, I am. I’ve changed my mind! I think it’s great and exciting that white male dominance of society is crumbling, and I hope it happens in a gentle way. I’ve a natural human sympathy for people. Interview by Andy Darling <strong>Brighton</strong> Dome, 13th <strong>November</strong> ....49....