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PEGASUS POST Tuesday <strong>July</strong> <strong>26</strong> <strong>2016</strong> 7<br />

30 years of nuclear resistance<br />

POLITICAL INVOLVEMENT: Former Prime Minister David<br />

Lange spoke to Dr Dewes about making New Zealand<br />

nuclear-free and not allowing nuclear weapons to enter the<br />

country.<br />

What about moments when you<br />

have had to pinch yourself?<br />

There were a few pinch yourself<br />

moments with all the people I have<br />

met and things we have managed<br />

to achieve. I was in the United<br />

States when I got the news that the<br />

February 22, 2011, earthquake hit.<br />

I thought about the house; it didn’t<br />

do well in the September-quake<br />

so I was worried it would be gone<br />

completely. I got all set to head back<br />

to Christchurch and I called one of<br />

my daughters and she said, ‘no mum<br />

stay there, you have some important<br />

things to do, you need to stay and<br />

do it’. So I did. In the morning, I saw<br />

pictures the New York Times had<br />

of the Cathedral and then I had to<br />

go and speak at the UN. We were<br />

standing around before the discussion<br />

started and someone must have<br />

told the UN secretary general where<br />

I was from and he came up to me<br />

and shook my hand and said, ‘please<br />

tell the people of Christchurch they<br />

have my support’. Then he told the<br />

whole audience at the UN where I<br />

was from and what had happened to<br />

my city. I couldn’t speak for several<br />

moments. I saw what had happened<br />

at home as an opportunity to get my<br />

point across.<br />

What was the point you were<br />

making?<br />

If we had a nuclear power centre<br />

in Christchurch, the effect would<br />

have been devastating. Especially if<br />

a tsunami had come through. The<br />

rest of the country would have been<br />

in a really horrible situation. The<br />

Japanese ambassador challenged me<br />

on what I said. I had no idea several<br />

weeks later I would be writing him<br />

letters of support for what had happened<br />

following the earthquake that<br />

hit Japan.<br />

Can you tell me a bit more about<br />

your involvement with the United<br />

Nations?<br />

I was appointed to the UN Secretary<br />

General’s Advisory Board<br />

on Disarmament Matters as a<br />

non-government member, which<br />

was great because I could openly<br />

say what I wanted and what I truly<br />

thought and felt. They had to look<br />

at things a little differently because I<br />

made them. I was the only female on<br />

the Government peace delegation<br />

in 1988, too. I think that I presented<br />

a really different perspective to the<br />

men as well, which was refreshing.<br />

I wasn’t paid for my work at the UN<br />

though.<br />

AT WORK: Dr Dewes marks on<br />

a map the areas that support a<br />

nuclear-free New Zealand.<br />

How could you afford not to get<br />

paid for your work?<br />

The UN paid for my flights and<br />

accommodation so that helped. I<br />

also continued working from home.<br />

I taught peace studies part-time at<br />

Canterbury University so there was<br />

a little bit of money. I re-married so<br />

there was a wage coming in. What I<br />

could go without, I did. But for me,<br />

it wasn’t about the money. I got to sit<br />

on the advisory board and provide<br />

my input and opinions, which was<br />

why I kept doing it.<br />

How did you meet your second<br />

husband?<br />

I was in Geneva for work in 1992<br />

and Robert Green was at the same<br />

convention about peace talks and<br />

nuclear development. Robert was<br />

the chair of the United Kingdom<br />

branch of the World Court Project<br />

so I gradually got to know him. I<br />

had to convince him to come to<br />

New Zealand, as the Government<br />

were looking at changing a clause to<br />

the nuclear legislation, so I needed<br />

to convince him to come to New<br />

Zealand to speak and make sure<br />

they didn’t change the legislation.<br />

When he was in the navy, he carried<br />

nuclear bombs so he knows what<br />

he’s talking about and I wanted to<br />

get him to share his information<br />

with New Zealand. Soon I had<br />

people sending me money to help<br />

get him to New Zealand.<br />

What do you think of Helen<br />

Clark running for secretary general?<br />

I think go Helen. I watched the<br />

debate she was in recently and<br />

thought she did really well. She has<br />

the knowledge and experience for<br />

the job and I think she would do<br />

really well at it.<br />

What are you setting your sights<br />

on for the future?<br />

Robert and I are trying to wind<br />

down a bit now, that’s easier said<br />

than done though. I would really<br />

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