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PEGASUS POST Tuesday <strong>July</strong> <strong>26</strong> <strong>2016</strong> 7<br />
30 years of nuclear resistance<br />
POLITICAL INVOLVEMENT: Former Prime Minister David<br />
Lange spoke to Dr Dewes about making New Zealand<br />
nuclear-free and not allowing nuclear weapons to enter the<br />
country.<br />
What about moments when you<br />
have had to pinch yourself?<br />
There were a few pinch yourself<br />
moments with all the people I have<br />
met and things we have managed<br />
to achieve. I was in the United<br />
States when I got the news that the<br />
February 22, 2011, earthquake hit.<br />
I thought about the house; it didn’t<br />
do well in the September-quake<br />
so I was worried it would be gone<br />
completely. I got all set to head back<br />
to Christchurch and I called one of<br />
my daughters and she said, ‘no mum<br />
stay there, you have some important<br />
things to do, you need to stay and<br />
do it’. So I did. In the morning, I saw<br />
pictures the New York Times had<br />
of the Cathedral and then I had to<br />
go and speak at the UN. We were<br />
standing around before the discussion<br />
started and someone must have<br />
told the UN secretary general where<br />
I was from and he came up to me<br />
and shook my hand and said, ‘please<br />
tell the people of Christchurch they<br />
have my support’. Then he told the<br />
whole audience at the UN where I<br />
was from and what had happened to<br />
my city. I couldn’t speak for several<br />
moments. I saw what had happened<br />
at home as an opportunity to get my<br />
point across.<br />
What was the point you were<br />
making?<br />
If we had a nuclear power centre<br />
in Christchurch, the effect would<br />
have been devastating. Especially if<br />
a tsunami had come through. The<br />
rest of the country would have been<br />
in a really horrible situation. The<br />
Japanese ambassador challenged me<br />
on what I said. I had no idea several<br />
weeks later I would be writing him<br />
letters of support for what had happened<br />
following the earthquake that<br />
hit Japan.<br />
Can you tell me a bit more about<br />
your involvement with the United<br />
Nations?<br />
I was appointed to the UN Secretary<br />
General’s Advisory Board<br />
on Disarmament Matters as a<br />
non-government member, which<br />
was great because I could openly<br />
say what I wanted and what I truly<br />
thought and felt. They had to look<br />
at things a little differently because I<br />
made them. I was the only female on<br />
the Government peace delegation<br />
in 1988, too. I think that I presented<br />
a really different perspective to the<br />
men as well, which was refreshing.<br />
I wasn’t paid for my work at the UN<br />
though.<br />
AT WORK: Dr Dewes marks on<br />
a map the areas that support a<br />
nuclear-free New Zealand.<br />
How could you afford not to get<br />
paid for your work?<br />
The UN paid for my flights and<br />
accommodation so that helped. I<br />
also continued working from home.<br />
I taught peace studies part-time at<br />
Canterbury University so there was<br />
a little bit of money. I re-married so<br />
there was a wage coming in. What I<br />
could go without, I did. But for me,<br />
it wasn’t about the money. I got to sit<br />
on the advisory board and provide<br />
my input and opinions, which was<br />
why I kept doing it.<br />
How did you meet your second<br />
husband?<br />
I was in Geneva for work in 1992<br />
and Robert Green was at the same<br />
convention about peace talks and<br />
nuclear development. Robert was<br />
the chair of the United Kingdom<br />
branch of the World Court Project<br />
so I gradually got to know him. I<br />
had to convince him to come to<br />
New Zealand, as the Government<br />
were looking at changing a clause to<br />
the nuclear legislation, so I needed<br />
to convince him to come to New<br />
Zealand to speak and make sure<br />
they didn’t change the legislation.<br />
When he was in the navy, he carried<br />
nuclear bombs so he knows what<br />
he’s talking about and I wanted to<br />
get him to share his information<br />
with New Zealand. Soon I had<br />
people sending me money to help<br />
get him to New Zealand.<br />
What do you think of Helen<br />
Clark running for secretary general?<br />
I think go Helen. I watched the<br />
debate she was in recently and<br />
thought she did really well. She has<br />
the knowledge and experience for<br />
the job and I think she would do<br />
really well at it.<br />
What are you setting your sights<br />
on for the future?<br />
Robert and I are trying to wind<br />
down a bit now, that’s easier said<br />
than done though. I would really<br />
like to be able to spend more<br />
time with my four grand-children,<br />
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