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Welcome to the 20th issue of KALTBLUT. In conversation with TROYE SIVAN, NURA, FKA.M4A, MAYA BAKLANOVA, NAMILIA, ANDREA OCAMPO, OHII KATYA, LARASEVERA, BARRY BRANDON, ORKIDEH DAROODI, EVÎN, RICHARD KRANZIN, ALEXANDRA S. ADERHOLD and EDWARD MUTEBI. Featuring works by Nik Pate, Lewin Berninger, Alessandro Amarante, Mert Degirmendereli, Myriam Tisbo, Davide Corona, Nicky De Silva, Angel Ruiz, Julian Freyberg, Sebastian Kiener, DZHUS, Omid Aghdami, Oscar Latorre and David Kaminsky. On the cover: Concept/Photography/Edit  - Nik Pate www.nikpate.com @Nikpatestudio Model - Chay Needs @Chayneeds_ Hair & Makeup -  Rosie Mcginn Using Fenty Beauty & Refy www.rosiemcginnmakeup.com / @Rosiemcginnmakeup All Fashion Pieces - Brian De Carvalho www.briandecarvalho.co.uk @Briandecarvalho Millinary Piece - Rafa Peinador www.rafapeinador.com @Rafa_peinador www.kaltblut-magazine.com

Welcome to the 20th issue of KALTBLUT. In conversation with TROYE SIVAN, NURA, FKA.M4A, MAYA BAKLANOVA, NAMILIA, ANDREA OCAMPO, OHII KATYA, LARASEVERA, BARRY BRANDON, ORKIDEH DAROODI, EVÎN, RICHARD KRANZIN, ALEXANDRA S. ADERHOLD and EDWARD MUTEBI. Featuring works by Nik Pate, Lewin Berninger, Alessandro Amarante, Mert Degirmendereli, Myriam Tisbo, Davide Corona, Nicky De Silva, Angel Ruiz, Julian Freyberg, Sebastian Kiener, DZHUS, Omid Aghdami, Oscar Latorre and David Kaminsky.

On the cover:

Concept/Photography/Edit  - Nik Pate www.nikpate.com @Nikpatestudio
Model - Chay Needs @Chayneeds_
Hair & Makeup -  Rosie Mcginn Using Fenty Beauty & Refy
www.rosiemcginnmakeup.com / @Rosiemcginnmakeup
All Fashion Pieces - Brian De Carvalho
www.briandecarvalho.co.uk @Briandecarvalho
Millinary Piece - Rafa Peinador
www.rafapeinador.com @Rafa_peinador
www.kaltblut-magazine.com

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But every Friday there is something to<br />

go see. That's been amazing for a lot of<br />

people, to have that chance to be able<br />

to go look at and talk about art in lack of<br />

museums and other institutions.<br />

And the art itself? Are artists<br />

dealing <strong>with</strong> political or<br />

non-political topics in their works?<br />

I see less political work nowadays but<br />

that might just be me and the program<br />

of our gallery even though I try to have a<br />

look at the other galleries’ programs as<br />

much as possible.<br />

When I opened my gallery, I showed a<br />

few exhibitions that were conceptual and<br />

political. Because conceptual art is<br />

difficult to sell, production costs have<br />

risen extremely. I think it's become very<br />

difficult for artists to be able to do that<br />

kind of work.<br />

From your point of view, what’s<br />

life like for artists in Iran at the<br />

moment?<br />

Costs are – I cannot tell you – everything<br />

doubled and tripled <strong>with</strong>in months. <strong>In</strong>flation<br />

is crazy. A lot of the artists are trying<br />

to leave, either through continuing their<br />

education or using different talent visas.<br />

They're trying to get out because they<br />

feel there is not much for them left here.<br />

Some of them have lost their studios;<br />

they cannot afford to buy material.<br />

Of course this is not the case for<br />

everyone. A lot of artists have decided to<br />

stay and fight through all the difficulties,<br />

but I’m sure it’s tough for a lot of them.<br />

What's interesting is that <strong>with</strong> everything<br />

that has happened, even during the last<br />

year when all the protests broke, <strong>with</strong><br />

a lot of the galleries closed for a few<br />

months, the market is still good. Even<br />

last year, right at the beginning of the<br />

protests, when we didn't even know what<br />

was going to happen, I was surprised to<br />

see that people were asking to see works,<br />

or they were buying works.<br />

That is a good sign because I think art<br />

does its own thing regardless of so many<br />

things. . It was interesting to see that<br />

people were still supporting and buying<br />

art for their collections.<br />

Can everyone become an artist<br />

in Iran or is it an “upper class”<br />

profession?<br />

Culturally, the thing here was that most<br />

people would want their kids to become<br />

doctors or engineers. When someone<br />

said they wanted to go to art school, that<br />

was frowned upon. But that has changed<br />

in the past <strong>20</strong> years. And of course there<br />

have always been<br />

exceptions too.<br />

.But now you see artists from different<br />

backgrounds and classes. I don’t think it<br />

has even been an upper class thing. It<br />

really depends on the individual’s passion<br />

and interests.<br />

Some of them have gone to university,<br />

others have worked in different artist studios<br />

while some are self-taught. You see<br />

all sorts of different people.<br />

Tell me about one of the more<br />

recent exhibitions, “Faces” by<br />

Donya Aalipour.<br />

As I explained, most exhibiting artists<br />

are young and emerging. I have only two<br />

more established artists, such as the<br />

Berlin-based Ali Nassir. Every couple of<br />

years, he curates shows of young Iranian<br />

artists.<br />

The second time he did it was <strong>with</strong> Iranian<br />

artists who live abroad. Donya is<br />

based in Vienna. Nassir knew her, sent<br />

me her work, and said he was interested<br />

in showing her work in the group exhibition.<br />

When I saw her work and met her when<br />

she travelled to Tehran, I fell in love <strong>with</strong><br />

her work. She didn't have any<br />

representation in Tehran and hadn't had<br />

any solo shows yet. She's in her late <strong>20</strong>s.<br />

Her show was actually set for September<br />

last year. All the works were here, framed,<br />

ready to go. But <strong>with</strong> the protests, we<br />

decided to cancel her show.<br />

Over the period of one year, the amount<br />

of work that she's done and the growth<br />

that you see in her work is absolutely<br />

amazing. We decided to show a selection<br />

of the original artworks that were done<br />

for last year and a few of the ones that<br />

she had done during the past year.<br />

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