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C M Y K<br />

sensaciuri<br />

informacia -<br />

SeiZleba ramdenime dReSi<br />

mixeil saakaSvili<br />

prezidentobidan gadadges!<br />

#32 (216) 18-24.VII.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: saertogazeti@yahoo.com fasi 1 lari<br />

<strong>patara</strong> <strong>gorma</strong> <strong>`qarTul</strong><br />

<strong>ocnebas~</strong> <strong>didi</strong> <strong>guli</strong> <strong>aCvena</strong><br />

sinodi orad aris gayofili<br />

_ saakaSvilisa da<br />

ivaniSvilis momxreebad<br />

Tu saakaSvili zRvargadasul<br />

ukanonobebs gaagrZelebs,<br />

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biZina ivaniSvili ara imdenad<br />

politikuri figuraa,<br />

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safrTxis winaSe vdgavarT<br />

tatiSvilebis <strong>didi</strong> ojaxi da<br />

roiali, romelzec genialuri<br />

baraTaSvili ukravda...<br />

dro mova, saakaSvils moskovSi<br />

mis simaRle Zegls daudgamen<br />

warweriT: `Cvens miSas _<br />

madlieri ruseTisgan~

2<br />

saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis interesebs barak<br />

obamas yofili mrCeveli daicavs<br />

koalicia „qarTuli<br />

ocnebis“ lideri biZina<br />

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dRes gamarTuli brifingis Semdeg maJoritarobis kidev 12 kandidati<br />

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5 agvistos baTumSi <strong>`qarTul</strong>i<br />

ocnebis~ morigi aqcia gaimarTeba<br />

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koalicia “qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

morigi aqcia gaimar-<br />

Teba.<br />

amis Sesaxeb “qarTuli<br />

ocnebis” liderma biZina<br />

ivaniSvilma dRes gamar-<br />

Tul brifingze ganacxada.<br />

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proeqtebs ukav-<br />

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am niSniT aRniSnulia sareklamo masalebi.

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />

Zalian urcxvi da<br />

utifari unda iyo,<br />

xelisuflebaSi griSa va-<br />

SaZe da kaxa benduqiZe<br />

gyavdes da ruseTis kacs<br />

biZina ivaniSvils eZaxde.<br />

Zalian urcxvi da<br />

utifari unda iyo,<br />

qarTuli ekonomikis yvelaze<br />

strategiuli dargebi<br />

Sens mierve okupantad<br />

monaTlul rusebs<br />

gadaabaro da ruseTis<br />

kacs mainc biZina ivaniSvils<br />

eZaxde.<br />

Zalian urcxvi da<br />

utifari unda iyo,<br />

kodoris xeobas zemo<br />

afxazeTi daarqva, sama-<br />

Cablos da qvemo qarTls<br />

samxreT oseTi da ase,<br />

iuridiulad gaformebuli<br />

da `notarialurad<br />

damowmebuli~ ruseTs miarTva,<br />

mere ki ruseTis<br />

kaci biZina ivaniSvils<br />

eZaxo.<br />

Zalian urcxvi da<br />

utifari unda iyo,<br />

an saakaSvilia putinis kaci, an<br />

Tavad putinia saakaSvilis kaci...<br />

dro mova, saakaSvils moskovSi mis<br />

simaRle Zegls daudgamen warweriT:<br />

`Cvens miSas _ madlieri ruseTisgan~<br />

jer is Tqva, afxazeTi<br />

saqarTvelosi arasodes<br />

yofilao, mere ki<br />

biZina ivaniSvilsken gaiSviro<br />

xeli da ruseTis<br />

kaci uwodo.<br />

Zalian urcxvi da<br />

utifari unda iyo,<br />

jer moskovidan iZleode<br />

direqtivebs, ase da ase<br />

moiqeciTo, mere revolucias<br />

awyobde, mere gamarjvebis<br />

niSnad xels rusi<br />

ivanovi giwevdes maRla,<br />

Sen ki ruseTis kacoba<br />

biZina ivaniSvils daabralo.<br />

Zalian urcxvi da<br />

utifari unda iyo,<br />

wagebuli omi gamarjvebad<br />

gamoacxado, qveynis<br />

teritoriis 20 procenti<br />

ruseTs dauTmo da<br />

ruseTis kacs biZina ivaniSvils<br />

eZaxde.<br />

ruseT-saqarTvelos<br />

urTierTobis bolo rva<br />

weliwads Tu daakvirdebi,<br />

advilad mixval<br />

Semdeg daskvnamde: an<br />

saakaSvilia putinis kaci,<br />

an Tavad putinia saakaSvilis<br />

kaci, iseT<br />

`satopkeebs~ uweven er-<br />

TmaneTs krizisul momentebSi<br />

da iseT moulodnel<br />

svlebs akeTeben<br />

erTmaneTis sasargeblod.<br />

am mxriv gansakuTrebiT<br />

putini gamoirCeva,<br />

romelic saerTaSoriso<br />

Tanamegobrobis gasagonad<br />

wamdauwum udasturebs<br />

saakaSvils, rom misi<br />

mosisxle mteria da<br />

saakaSvilis yofnas xelisuflebis<br />

saTaveSi verasodes<br />

Seegueba, Tumca<br />

miuxedavad aseTi `Seugueblobisa~,<br />

ukve mecxre<br />

welia saakaSvili mainc<br />

inarCunebs Zalauflebas.<br />

saakaSvilma imdeni sikeTe<br />

gaukeTa ruseTs, wesiT<br />

da rigiT, sadme moskovis<br />

centrSi mis simaRle<br />

erT qandakebas namdvilad<br />

imsaxurebs.<br />

dro gava, daudgamen<br />

kidevac da zed aseT warweras<br />

gaukeTeben. `Cvens<br />

miSas _ madlieri ruse-<br />

Tisgan~.<br />

yovelive amis Semdeg<br />

saakaSvils ruseTis mteri<br />

uwodo da ivaniSvils<br />

ruseTis moyvare,<br />

marTlac <strong>didi</strong> urcxvoba<br />

da utifroba ar<br />

aris?<br />

dawinaureba `nacionalurad~<br />

_ qvelmoqmed biZina ivaniSvils<br />

vicnob, magram politikosi<br />

biZina ivaniSvili<br />

raRac ar mecnobao, _ ganacxada<br />

vano merabiSvilma.<br />

ui, es ra dagmarTiaT, batono<br />

vano _ politikosi<br />

ivaniSvili is aris, asiaTasobiT<br />

adamiani rom amoiyena<br />

gverdiT da Tqveni da Tqveni<br />

gundis rvawlian diqtaturas<br />

wyali rom Seuyena.<br />

politikosi ivaniSvili<br />

is aris, visi wyalobiTac<br />

Tqven dagawinaures da premieri<br />

gagxades.<br />

metsac getyviT, sinamdvileSi<br />

politikosi ivaniS-<br />

vilia avtori `nacmoZraobis~<br />

im axali samoqmedo<br />

gegmisa, Tqven rom Tqvenad<br />

asaRebT da xalxs enis bor-<br />

ZikiT rom ukiTxavT axal<br />

bibliasaviT.<br />

politikos ivaniSvils<br />

ar icnobT, magram politikos<br />

akos, politikos kakos,<br />

politikos petkas, politikos<br />

bocos xom icnobT, batono<br />

vano _ Tqveni politikuri<br />

gundis saxeebs,<br />

Tqvens mTavar ideologebs?<br />

maTTan SedarebiT ivaniSvilis<br />

politikosoba, aba,<br />

ras mosatania?<br />

Jurnalistis kiTxvaze,<br />

Tqveni Sss ministrobis<br />

dros bevri cudi ambavi<br />

moxda da ras ityvi amazeo,<br />

politikosma vanom mkvircxlad<br />

upasuxa: bevri ki ara,<br />

uamravi Secdoma iqna daSvebuli<br />

da pasuxismgeblobas<br />

yvelaferze me viRebo.<br />

gasakviria pirdapir, ra<br />

ucnaurad esmiT am `naciona-<br />

lebs~ pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi?<br />

rac ufro mets gaafu-<br />

Webs da rac ufro met danaSauls<br />

Caidens esa Tu is<br />

xelmZRvaneli amxanagi ama<br />

Tu im postze, miT ufro ma-<br />

Ral Tanamdebobaze awinaureben,<br />

rogorc es batoni vanos<br />

SemTxvevaSi moxda.<br />

ai, amas hqvia dawinaureba<br />

`nacionalurad~, tipiuri,<br />

normad da wesad damkvidrebuli<br />

dawinaureba.<br />

rac mets daaSaveb, miT<br />

ufro win waxvalo...<br />

merabiSvilic midis da<br />

midis win da Tu am tempiT<br />

iara, premieri ki ara, SeiZleba,<br />

prezidentic gaxdes.<br />

3

4 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

redaqtoris<br />

sveti<br />

vaxtang xarCilava<br />

qvasroliebi<br />

danarCen msoflioSi 21-e saukunea,<br />

saqarTveloSi _ qvis xanaa.<br />

qvis xanaSi vcxovrobT da qvebs visvriT.<br />

junglebidan sul axlaxan gamosulma<br />

velurma tomebmac ki Sewyvites qvis<br />

srola, Cven uZvelesi civilizaciidan<br />

movdivarT da mainc qvebs visvriT.<br />

ager sul axlaxan, karaleTSi, qvebis<br />

iseTi zuzun-Waxani ismoda, gegoneboda,<br />

erTi 30 saukuniT davixieT ukan.<br />

`momxvdurebi~ ambobdnen, damoukidebeli<br />

saqarTvelos istoriaSi erTxel<br />

mainc CavataroT samarTliani, demokratiuli<br />

arCevnebi da civilizebulad,<br />

wynarad da mSvidobianad avirCioT xelisuflebao,<br />

rasac `damxvdurebi~ qvebis<br />

sroliT da sabrZolo yiJiniT Sexvdnen.<br />

ra xdeba? am erT qveyanaSi ori saqarTveloa?<br />

_ erTi saqarTvelo demokratias<br />

da arCevnebs moiTxovs, meore<br />

ki problemis gadawyvetas qvebiT, ketebiT,<br />

muStiT da, RmerTma nu qnas, tyviiT<br />

apirebs?<br />

cxadia da naTelia, qvasroliebi<br />

qvis xanaSi gvipireben dabrunebas da im<br />

gamoqvabulSi Serekvas, sadac sruli<br />

sibnele da wyvdiadia.<br />

minaweri: erTmaneTs talaxs nu esvriTo,<br />

_ mogviwoda patriarqma.<br />

qvasroliebma, etyoba, patriarqis<br />

Txovna gaiTvaliswines da `mowinaaRmdegeebs~<br />

talaxs ar esvrian, _ qvebiT<br />

uxeTqaven Tavebs.<br />

eklesiuri xalxia es qvasroliebi,<br />

ra uceb iRes yurad eklesiis meTauris<br />

Segoneba?<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.net<br />

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_ sul male mixeil saakaSvili<br />

prezidentobidan gadadgeba<br />

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Caudgeba saTaveSi _ aseTi<br />

sensaciuri informacia mogvawoda<br />

saxelisuflo wreebTan daaxloebulma<br />

pirma.<br />

misi TqmiT, mixeil saakaSvils<br />

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miuRia. es gegma karga xania arsebobs<br />

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fundamenturi cvlilebebi<br />

swored am gegmis efeqturad<br />

ganxorcielbis amocanas emsaxureba.<br />

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garemoeba _ avTandil<br />

demetraSvilis<br />

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uflebebiRa<br />

rCeba, xolo premierministrs<br />

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irCevs.<br />

konstituciis axali redaqciiT,<br />

premier-ministrs gacilebiT<br />

meti Zalaufleba aqvs mini-<br />

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swored aman warmoSva eWvi,<br />

rom mixeil saakaSvili prezidentobis<br />

vadis amowurvis Semdeg<br />

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posts da am mizniT aZlierebda<br />

premieris politikur figuras.<br />

eWvs gacxovelebuli debatebi<br />

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radRebis centrSic ki moeqca,<br />

rasac xelisuflebis oficialurad<br />

gadabarebis Sesaxeb saakaSvilis<br />

misamarTiT barak obamas<br />

gafrTxileba mohyva.<br />

diskusia mainc ar Camxcrala<br />

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kamaTobdnen da kamaToben<br />

imis Sesaxeb, ra gadawyvetilebas<br />

miiRebs `demokratiis Suqurad~<br />

wodebuli mixeil saakaSvili<br />

_ prezidentobis vadis amowurvis<br />

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wava Tu putinis gzas<br />

airCevs?<br />

am kiTxvaze saakaSvils jerjerobiT<br />

pasuxi ar gaucia, es<br />

Tema kvlav rCeba saqarTvelos<br />

politikuri cxovrebis mTavar<br />

intrigad.<br />

45 wlis saakaSvilisTvis<br />

pensiaze gasvla jer Zalze naadrevia,<br />

magram putinis gzac<br />

rom ar aris didad saxarbielo,<br />

esec cxadia.<br />

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arc putinze ufiqria da arc<br />

mis gzaze, man politikuri aqtiurobisa<br />

da Zalauflebis SenarCunebis<br />

sxva varianti, ker-<br />

Zod, parlamentis Tavmjdomareoba<br />

airCia.<br />

SeiZleba, am gadawyvetilebas<br />

ukavSirdebodes quTaisSi<br />

parlamentis gadatana. politikurad<br />

SfoTiani da meamboxe<br />

Tbilisis Semdeg saakaSvils<br />

wynari da mSvidi cxovreba moenatra,<br />

saparlamento moRvaweobis<br />

quTaisSi gagrZeleba ki<br />

amis met saSualebas iZleva.<br />

saakaSvilma SesaniSnavad icis,<br />

rom misi, rogorc politikosis<br />

yofna-aryofnis sakiTxi oqtombris<br />

saparlamento arCevnebSi wydeba.<br />

man an unda moigos es arCevnebi, an<br />

SiSiT da gangaSiT savse momavlis<br />

Sesaxvedrad unda emzados.<br />

sensaciuri<br />

informacia<br />

SeiZleba ramdenime dReSi<br />

mixeil saakaSvili<br />

prezidentobidan gadadges!<br />

pragmatulad Tu mivudgebiT<br />

sakiTxs, saakaSvils<br />

unda erCivnos<br />

kidev erTxel gariskos,<br />

kidev erTxel gadadgesprezidentobidan,<br />

Caudges saTaveSi<br />

nacmoZraobas, Seecados<br />

miaRwios gamarjvebas<br />

da amiT yvela is sa-<br />

SiSroeba moxsnas, romelic<br />

mas emuqreba.<br />

axali konstituciiT, parlamentis<br />

Tavmjdomare, faqtobrivad,<br />

qveynis pirveli piria,<br />

romlis xelSic Zalauflebis<br />

yvela sadave iyris Tavs...<br />

aseTi maRali statusis Tanamdebobas<br />

`bedi mdevrisgan~<br />

otebuli saakaSvili sxvas rogor<br />

Caugdebs xelSi, miT umetes,<br />

rom Tu moarul xmebs davujerebT,<br />

`TerZ~ demetraSvils<br />

da `TerZis TanaSemwe~ SarmanaSvils<br />

spikeris nairnairi uflebebiT<br />

moqar<strong>guli</strong> mantia swored<br />

rom TavisTvis Seakerina da qu-<br />

TaisSi parlamentis Senobac<br />

swored rom TavisTvis aiSena.<br />

daviT qavTaria

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

gamosvlis teqsti 15 ivlisis aqciaze, gorSi<br />

gamarjoba, gorelebo!<br />

gamarjoba, qarTlo!<br />

yvelas mogesalmebiT. did<br />

madlobas gixdiT imisTvis, rom<br />

dRes aq erTad varT.<br />

saqarTvelos yovel kuTxes<br />

Tavisi ganumeorebeli xibli aqvs.<br />

qarTli ki yoveli kuTxis gamaerTianebeli,<br />

erTian saqarTvelod<br />

Semkrebi da Semkvrelia.<br />

sityva saqarTveloc xom qarTlidan<br />

modis.<br />

marto ufliscixe, samTavisi,<br />

yinwvisi da atenis sionic ikmarebda<br />

imis dasturad, rom aq,<br />

qarTlSi, iqmneboda saqarTvelos<br />

istoria.<br />

Cven dRes gorSi SevikribeT,<br />

<strong>didi</strong> daviT aRmaSeneblis mier<br />

daarsebul qalaqSi. am qalaqs<br />

bevri gansacdeli unaxavs da bevri<br />

gasaWiri gadautania, magram<br />

dRemde mtkiced dgas, rogorc<br />

saqarTvelos erTianobis, Cveni<br />

samSoblos gautexlobisa da simtkicis<br />

simbolo.<br />

qeds vixri Tqven winaSe. aq<br />

lamazi sityvebis arc adgilia<br />

da arc dro. qarTlis gulSi<br />

vdgavarT, saqarTvelos gulSi<br />

da es <strong>guli</strong>a axla naiarevi. ukve<br />

oTxi weli gadis, es iara ki ve-<br />

Rar SuSdeba.<br />

am Wrilobas sulis SeberviT<br />

ver moaSuSeb. mas arc tkivilis<br />

gayuCeba uSvelis. am Wrilobas<br />

saswrafod unda vumkurnaloT,<br />

raTa piri Seikras da Sexorcdes.<br />

ukvalod mis gaqrobas veravin<br />

dagvpirdeba. daRupulebs veravin<br />

gagvicocxlebs, daRupulebs veravin<br />

dagvibrunebs.<br />

wuTieri dumiliT pativi mivagoT<br />

maT xsovnas...<br />

<strong>guli</strong>T Tu gvinda, rom am<br />

Wrilobam, bolos da bolos, piri<br />

Seikras, jer Cven SevkraT piri<br />

- dRes da aq.<br />

Cven erTad movnaxavT Zalas<br />

da SevZlebT patiebas. Cven SevZ-<br />

lebT ara marto patiebas, Cven<br />

Cveni bralis aRiarebis da monaniebis<br />

Zalac Segvwevs. Cven qar-<br />

Tvel dedebs kidev erTxel movuxdiT<br />

bodiSs. Cven „vefxisa da<br />

moymis“ Semqmneli xalxi varT -<br />

Cven samZimars vetyviT os dedebs,<br />

davexmarebiT maT ugzo-ukvlod<br />

dakar<strong>guli</strong> Svilebis mo-<br />

ZebnaSi, CavatarebT samarTlian<br />

gamoZiebas, gamovasworebT, risi<br />

gamosworebac jer kidev SesaZlebelia.<br />

momavalSic Cven mxolod<br />

gzas davulocavT qarTul-osur<br />

ojaxs, romelic yovelTvis bunebrivi<br />

da Cveulebrivi ambavi<br />

iyo aq, am mxareSi. Cven, qarTvelebma<br />

da osebma, erTad unda Sev-<br />

ZloT urTierTobebis aRdgena,<br />

radgan amdeni ram gvakavSirebs<br />

da gvaaxloebs erTmaneTTan. Cven<br />

gamovnaxavT misadgoms Cvens<br />

ZmebTan da debTan - osebTan, Cven<br />

aucileblad aRvadgenT maTTan<br />

urTierTobas.<br />

dRevandeli viTareba SeuZlebelia<br />

didxans gagrZeldes. ar<br />

SeiZleba qarTveli imas Seeguos,<br />

rom Tavisuflad veRar naxavs<br />

qarTuli xuroTmoZRvrebis<br />

Sedevrs - ikorTis taZars, sadac<br />

dakrZaluli arian qarTveli gmirebi<br />

- biZina ColoyaSvili, Salva<br />

da elizbar qsnis erisTavebi.<br />

da es mdgomareoba, aseTi vi-<br />

Tareba agvistos omis Sedegia.<br />

me ar mimaCnia, rom omi saqar-<br />

Tvelom daiwyo. Cven ar gadavsulvarT<br />

ruseTis teritoriaze,<br />

magram versad gaveqceviT imas,<br />

rom saqarTvelos xelisuflebam<br />

qarTuli soflebis dabombvis sapasuxod<br />

wamoiwyo samxedro moqmedebebi<br />

ise, rom ver gaTvala<br />

SesaZlo Sedegebi.<br />

es ar SeiZleba vinmes axarebdes.<br />

xelisuflebis moqmedebebi<br />

im tragikul dReebSi ver uZlebda<br />

veranair kritikas. maRali Ta-<br />

namdebobis pirebi, romlebsac saxelmwifosa<br />

da xalxis bedi abariaT,<br />

sruliad samarcxvinod iqceodnen.<br />

pativi da dideba yvela im<br />

jariskacsa da oficers, vinc<br />

gmirulad ibrZola da sakuTari<br />

sicocxlis fasad icavda samSoblos!<br />

magram uzneobaa, lamis gamarjvebad<br />

gamoacxado omi, romelsac<br />

asze meti soflis okupacia<br />

mohyva.<br />

Cven, yvelam erTad, rac ar<br />

unda mware iyos, simarTle unda<br />

vTqvaT. da roca simarTles ar<br />

gaveqceviT, imasac advilad davinaxavT,<br />

ra gzebiT SeiZleba sasikeTo<br />

cvlilebebis miRweva.<br />

Cven unda SevZloT da movipovoT<br />

Cveni strategiuli partniorebis<br />

- amerikis SeerTebuli<br />

Statebisa da evrokavSiris qveynebis,<br />

aseve saerTaSoriso organizaciebis<br />

ufro qmediTi mxarda-<br />

Wera. aseT mxardaWeras ki, mxolod<br />

maSin mivaRwevT, roca saqarTvelo<br />

realurad daadgeba<br />

demokratiis mSeneblobis gzas.<br />

demokratias Cveni qveynisTvis<br />

sasicocxlo mniSvneloba aqvs da<br />

Cven amas aucileblad davamkvidrebT.<br />

Cven aucileblad daviwyebT<br />

pirdapir dialogs Cvens os Zmeb-<br />

Tan, gamoviyenebT saxalxo diplomatias,<br />

gamovnaxavT saerTo<br />

interesebs da amas daefuZneba<br />

Cveni samomavlo urTierTobebi.<br />

yvelam kargad icis, rogor<br />

kavSirebs adamianebs erTmaneTTan<br />

saqmiani urTierTobebi da saer-<br />

To interesebi. amis magaliTad<br />

ergneTis bazrobac sakmarisia. am<br />

bazrobis wyalobiT wlebis win<br />

qarTvelebma da osebma SeZles<br />

urTierTobis aRdgena, da es ur-<br />

TierToba bunebriv kalapots ubrundeboda.<br />

am adgilze isini ara marto<br />

xvdebodnen erTmaneTs, aramed sa-<br />

erTo biznesSic Caebnen da saqmesac<br />

erTad uZRvebodnen. maSin<br />

maT, qarTvelebma da osebma, Tavidan<br />

aRmoaCines, rom, Turme, erTmaneTi<br />

Zalian sWirdebodaT.<br />

konfliqtis mSvidobian, vimeoreb,<br />

mSvidobian mogvarebaze odnav<br />

mainc rom ezruna, xelisufleba<br />

ase daufiqreblad, ase xelaRebiT<br />

ar daxuravda ergneTis<br />

bazrobas.<br />

ergneTis bazrobis daxurva<br />

Cveni xelisuflebis ugunuri politikis<br />

Sedegia, radgan iq, sadac<br />

rva wlis ganmavlobaSi qar-<br />

Tvelebisa da osebis saerTo savaWro<br />

daxlebi idga da savalu-<br />

to jixurebi muSaobda, axla<br />

rusuli samxedro postia.<br />

am Secdomis gamosworeba marto<br />

Cven SegviZlia. Cven, xelisuflebaSi<br />

mosvlis Semdeg, kanonis<br />

farglebSi, legalurad aRvadgenT<br />

ergneTis bazrobas. Cven<br />

yvelafers guldasmiT gaviTvliT<br />

da yvela risks gaviTvaliswinebT.<br />

Cven migvaCnia, rom am bazrobis<br />

aRdgeniT gamyofi xazis sxvadasxva<br />

mxares mcxovreb adamianebs<br />

Soris ndobis aRdgenac daiwyeba<br />

da urTierTobebic er-<br />

Txel da sabolood dalagdeba.<br />

Cven ara erTxel vTqviT da<br />

aqac xmamaRla ganvacxadeb: saqar-<br />

Tvelos dasavluri orientacia,<br />

integracia evrokavSirsa da natoSi<br />

aris Cveni strategiuli<br />

arCevani, romelsac alternativa<br />

ara aqvs! magram Cven ver avir-<br />

CevT mezoblebs.<br />

Cven, miuxedavad yvelafrisa,<br />

mogviwevs ruseTTan urTierTobis<br />

SedarebiT normalizeba.<br />

vfiqrob, xelisuflebaSi mosvlis<br />

Semdeg, Cven SevZlebT qar-<br />

Tuli produqciis rusul bazarze<br />

dabrunebas.<br />

ruseTis mimarT Cveni pozicia<br />

iqneba koreqtuli, magram principuli.<br />

gansaxvavebiT am xelisuflebisagan,<br />

romelic uprincipoa<br />

da arakoreqtuli.<br />

Cven aucileblad gamovZebniT<br />

saerTo enas afxazebTan da<br />

osebTan. Cven gvaqvs amis resursi,<br />

da es icis xelisuflebam. am<br />

mxriv, Cveni miznebi da amocanebi<br />

mTlianad emTxveva saerTaSoriso<br />

Tanamegobrobis midgomebs.<br />

swored esaa, rom aRizianebs<br />

xelisuflebas da aqedan iRebs<br />

saTaves Cveni koaliciisa da piradad<br />

Cemken momarTuli ciliswamebis<br />

niaRvari.<br />

am dros, xelisufleba arafers<br />

akeTebs imisTvis, rom odnav<br />

mainc gaumjobesdes xalxis<br />

mdgomareoba.<br />

umZimesi mdgomareobaa administraciuli<br />

sazRvris piras, gamyofi<br />

xazis mimdebare soflebSi. iq ise-<br />

Ti viTarebaa Seqmnili, rom SeuZlebeli<br />

xdeba cxovreba, ris gamoc<br />

katastrofuli siswrafiT icleba<br />

soflebi.<br />

bevria iseTi sofeli, romelic<br />

mesaqonleobiT irCenda Tavs.<br />

omis Semdeg am soflebis saZovrebi<br />

gamyofi xazis gadaRma aRmoCnda<br />

da sofeli mTlianad sa-<br />

Zovrebis gareSe darCa. gamyofi<br />

xazis gadaRma aRmoCnda yanebi,<br />

venaxebi da tyec, saidanac omamde<br />

soflis mosaxleoba SeSas<br />

ezideboda.<br />

axla soflebSi aRarc gazia<br />

da aRarc sarwyavi wyali, bevrgan<br />

ukve sasmeli wyalic ki sanatreli<br />

gauxdaT. ai, aseTi gansacdelis<br />

pirispir datova xelisuflebam<br />

Tavisi xalxi. ukiduresi<br />

gaWirveba, daucveloba da<br />

uimedoba - ai, amisTvis aris ganwiruli<br />

dRes es soflebi.<br />

me da Cemi gundi am xalxs<br />

vpirdebiT, rom es usulguloba<br />

male damTavrdeba! am xelisuflebis<br />

pirobebSi konfliqtis<br />

mogvarebas piri ar uCans. kargad<br />

gvesmis, rom am problemas erTi<br />

xelis mosmiT verc Cven gadavwyvetT.<br />

magram imas namdvilad gpirdebiT,<br />

rom gamovnaxavT saerTo enas<br />

osur mxaresTan da soflebSi<br />

sarwyav wyals davabrunebT, Cven<br />

am gausaZlis yofas SegimsubuqebT,<br />

uyuradRebod ar darCeba<br />

arc erTi sofeli, arc erTi ojaxi,<br />

yvelas satkivars gaviziarebT<br />

da yvela sakiTxs SeZlebisdagvarad<br />

movagvarebT.<br />

omis umZimesi Sedegia is, rom<br />

saqarTvelos aTasobiT moqalaqe<br />

sakuTari saxlidan aiyara da Tavissave<br />

samSobloSi devnilad iqca.<br />

erTi SexedviT, TiTqos xelisuflebam<br />

izruna maTze, amisaTvis<br />

specialuri kotejebic ki<br />

daudga, magram ra pirobebSi<br />

uwevT Cvens Tanamemamuleebs<br />

cxovreba, yvelam kargad viciT.<br />

ufro metic - rac yvelaze<br />

metad aRmaSfoTebelia - devnil-<br />

TaTvis kotejebis an fuladi<br />

daxmarebebis gamoyofam Tavidanve<br />

politikuri korufciis saxe miiRo<br />

- xelisufleba ganawilebisas<br />

xelmZRvanelobs mxolod politikuri<br />

loialurobis niSniT!<br />

xSirad devnilebs iZulebiT<br />

asaxleben soflebSi, sadac ar<br />

aris cxovrebisa da saqmianobis<br />

met-naklebad normaluri pirobebi,<br />

aTasobiT devnili kuTvnili<br />

statusis miniWebas dRemde<br />

elodeba, konfliqtis zonebsa<br />

da mis mimdebare sasazRvro<br />

velSi bevrma dakarga<br />

socialuri SeRavaTebi.<br />

erTma devnilma „qarTuli<br />

ocnebis“ baraTSi Cawera:<br />

Cemi ocnebaa, imdeni qula<br />

davagrovo, rom siRaribis<br />

Semweoba miviRoo.<br />

ai, esaa Cveni mware simarTle,<br />

da Cven mas Tvals<br />

gavusworebT, amas gpirdebT!<br />

es unda damTavrdes,<br />

xalxo! Cveni xalxis aseTi<br />

uRirsebo yofa unda dam-<br />

Tavrdes da me yvelafers<br />

gavakeTeb amisaTvis!<br />

sityvas vaZlev Cvens devnilebs,<br />

xelisuflebaSi mosvlis-<br />

Tanave yvelas daukanondeba is<br />

farTobebi, romlebSic axla<br />

cxovroben, raTa maT saSualeba<br />

hqondeT, dagegmon sakuTari<br />

cxovreba da momavali, vidre<br />

droebiT dakargul saxl–kars<br />

daubrundebian.<br />

Cven yvela pirobas SevuqmniT<br />

maT, rom Rirseulad SeZlon<br />

cxovreba, aRar iyvnen xelisuflebis<br />

Semweobasa da mowyalebaze<br />

damokidebuli.<br />

6 gv.<br />

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6 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

5 gv.<br />

veRarasodes veravin gabedavs,<br />

rom maT gareSe maTi bedi<br />

gadawyvitos! veRaravin gabedavs<br />

damcirebiT, SeuracxyofiT da<br />

cema-tyepiT maT dawiokebas da<br />

Ramis saTevad Ria cis qveS gayras,<br />

rogorc es ara erTxel momxdara.<br />

Cven amas ar davuSvebT!<br />

amis sityvas me gaZlevT!<br />

xalxis mimarT gulgriloba,<br />

cinizmi da daundobloba am xelisuflebis<br />

xelwerad iqca. yvelas<br />

gvaxsovs, rogor daamcira<br />

da abuCad aigdo xelisuflebam<br />

Cveni veteranebi - is xalxi,<br />

romlebmac, roca samSoblos<br />

uWirda, mis dasacavad Tavi gadades.<br />

roca veteranebma ukiduresi<br />

gaWirveba da saxelmwifos mxridan<br />

sruli uyuradReboba quCaSi<br />

gaaprotestes, xelisuflebam,<br />

TiTqos sagangebod, samagaliTod,<br />

yvelas Tvalwin, isini Seuracxyo<br />

da daamcira.<br />

ai, aseT magaliTs aZlevs es<br />

xelisfuleba axalgazrda Taobas.<br />

maSin roca, Rirsebis mqone<br />

saxelmwifo gansakuTrebuli pativiscemiT<br />

eqceva Tavis veteranebs,<br />

amave suliskveTebiT zrdis<br />

is Tavis momaval Taobas da amiT<br />

uCens samSoblosadmi erTgulebisa<br />

da Tavdadebis gancdas.<br />

me da Cemi gundi gpirdebiT,<br />

rom saxelmwifo gansakuTrebul<br />

yuradRebas gamoiCens veteranebis<br />

mimarT, iqneba is meore msoflio<br />

omis, afxazeTis Tu agvistos<br />

omis monawile, maTi Rvawli dafasdeba,<br />

dawesdeba socialuri<br />

SeRavaTebi da maT Rirseulad<br />

cxovrebis saSualeba miecemaT.<br />

veteranTa garda, gpirdebiT,<br />

Cven uyuradRebod ar davtovebT<br />

sxva specifikur jgufebsac,<br />

romlebic dRes xelisuflebisgan<br />

mitovebuli arian: I da II<br />

jgufis SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis<br />

mqone pirebs, marCenaldakargulebs,politrepresirebulebs<br />

da Cernobilis dazarebulebs.<br />

Cven ar davuSvebT 2005 wels<br />

Zalovani uwyebebidan daTxovnili<br />

mosamsaxureebis diskriminacias,<br />

maTi pensiebi gadaangariSdeba<br />

dRes moqmedi normativebis<br />

mixedviT.<br />

me Tqven gpirdebiT, rom veRaravin<br />

gamoiyenebs Cveni xalxis<br />

damsjelad policias, romelic<br />

amave xalxis sisxli da xorcia.<br />

swored amitom, aqve unda mivmar-<br />

To Cvens policielebs: me bevrjer<br />

aRvniSne, rom Cveni policielebis<br />

umravlesoba wesieri adamiania,<br />

romlebic uangarod da<br />

patiosnad emsaxurebian Tavis<br />

samSoblos da xalxs.<br />

rogorc Cans, saakaSvili SeaSfoTa<br />

Cemma sityvebma da ramdenime<br />

dRis win policielebs mi-<br />

nistrad dauniSna sisastikiT<br />

cnobili axalaia da ase cdilobs<br />

daTrgunos da daaSinos<br />

ara marto mosaxleoba, aramed<br />

policielebic.<br />

daakvirdiT, xalxo, da naxavT,<br />

rom saakaSvilis es nabiji<br />

SeSinebuli kacis gadawyvetilebaa.<br />

rogorc Cans, mas kidev ufro<br />

mkacri xeli sWirdeba Tavisi<br />

Zalauflebis SesanarCuneblad,<br />

mas arCevnebisTvis sWirdeba zon-<br />

derbrigadebi, romelTa marTvi-<br />

Tac axalaia aris ganTqmuli.<br />

mogmarTavT Tqven, Cveno saamayo<br />

policielebo! nurafris SegeSindebaT!<br />

es yvelaferi male<br />

warsuls Cabardeba, cotac unda<br />

gavuZloT, yvelam erTad! Cven<br />

ver gvajobeben!<br />

Tu Tqven ar SeasrulebT ukanono<br />

brZanebebs, kanoni Tqven<br />

mxares iqneba, da ara marto kanoni,<br />

samarTlianoba iqneba Tqvenken.<br />

da maSin gaxsovdeT, ase veravin<br />

dagjabniT, Tqven ver mogerevaT<br />

verc erTi kriminali Tanamdebobis<br />

piri.<br />

ideqiT xalxis samsaxurSi,<br />

daicaviT igi, Tqven xom sicocxlesac<br />

ar daiSurebT misTvis!<br />

Tqven amas aucileblad dagifasebT<br />

Cveni xalxi! Cven gvaxsovs<br />

da gvemaxsovreba is Tavganwirva,<br />

romelic 23 wlis win, 9 aprils<br />

gamoiCina maSindelma policiam,<br />

roca xalxs gadaefara, raTa jalaTebisgan<br />

daecva igi.<br />

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yvelas gvaxsovs xelisuflebiseuli<br />

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atyues, gaaRatakes da axla, ra<br />

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es damTavrdeba, da amas<br />

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me, biZina ivaniSvili, sityvas<br />

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gzaze davayeneb.<br />

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es xelisufleba rom damTavrdeba,<br />

mis Zalauflebas rom bolo<br />

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grZnobs, radgan misi bolodroindeli<br />

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mTels saerTaSoriso sazogadoebas<br />

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politikur oponents.<br />

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am problemas da<br />

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aris kanoni da samarTali,<br />

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dRiTi dRe sul ufro izrdeba,<br />

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swored am brZolaSi aucileblad<br />

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aRdgeba. ar gamouvaT araferi,<br />

verafers dagvakleben!<br />

CemTan brZolisTvis, CvenTan<br />

brZolisTvis, sakuTar xalxTan

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brZolisTvis ukan aRaraferze ixeven.<br />

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dayo asakis mixedviT, enis<br />

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mTavroba ara sportuli miRwevebis,<br />

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yurmoWrili morCilebis mixedviT<br />

afasebs. es sportsmenis gadagvarebas<br />

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cnobilia, rom politikuri<br />

oponentebisa da xelisuflebiT<br />

ukmayofilo moqalaqeebis dasaSineblad,<br />

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swored jan-RoniT gamorCeuli<br />

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kanons vpirdebiT, da<br />

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rom 21-e saukuneSi<br />

saqarTvelos xelisuflebam Seqmna<br />

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saxeli - „zonderbrigadebi“<br />

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is, rom maTi xelmZRvaneli<br />

saqarTvelos parlamentis wevria.<br />

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aris ganwyobili biZina ivaniSvilisa<br />

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iq badri basiSvilis zonderebi daxvdnen.<br />

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mcxovrebi xelisuflebis momxreebisgan<br />

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TiTqos regionis mosaxleoba da devnilebi<br />

mxolod `nacmoZraobas~ uWeren mxars.<br />

riT daimsaxures maT aseTi pativi?<br />

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atmisa da vaSlis baRebis movla cecxlis<br />

fasi ujdebaT. glexebi tirian da<br />

amis Semdeg rogor SeiZleba normalurma<br />

adamianma ifiqros, isini xelisuflebis<br />

momxreebi ariano. biZina ivaniSvils<br />

soflis meurneobaSi miliardiani Tanxis<br />

Cadeba rom undoda, am xelisuflebam<br />

uari uTxra, axla gaxda maTTvis es dargi<br />

prioritetuli? rac SeexebaT devnilebs,<br />

Cems saxlTan axlos maTi kompaqturi<br />

Casaxlebaa, ori Tvis win mexuTe<br />

sarTulidan gadmoxta devnili qalbatoni,<br />

gvarad beruaSvili da gardaicvala.<br />

mas gausaZlisma pirobebma ubiZga am tragikuli<br />

nabijisken, Tumca xelisuflebis<br />

warmomadgenlebma mizezi ase axsnes, Zmis<br />

gardacvalebis gamo mZime sulieri stresi<br />

miiRo da imitom gadmoxtao. naCqarevad<br />

aSenebul kotejebSi Weridan wyali<br />

Camodis, kedlebi da iataki ise dalpa,<br />

rom qvewarmavlebi Tavisuflad amodian.<br />

bednieri viyavi, roca sofel fermaSi<br />

gaxsnil qarTul baga-baRs (am soflis<br />

mcxovrebTa 90% azerbaijanelia) iakob<br />

gogebaSvilis saxeli uwodes. am baga-ba-<br />

Ris bazaze qarTuli skolac unda dafuZnebuliyo.<br />

axla sadac sapatrulo policiis<br />

SuSis Senobaa, komunistebis dros<br />

leninis Zegli idga. misi aRebis Semdeg,<br />

mravali weli ido warweriani qva, aq<br />

aRimarTeba iakob gogebaSvilis Zeglio,<br />

magram, rogorc mixeil saakaSvili ityoda,<br />

nuras ukacravad, gasul wels uceb<br />

wamoWimes patrulis Senoba, deda enis<br />

Semqmneli aravis gaxsenebia. policiis Senobac<br />

aucilebelia, magram maincdamainc<br />

aq unda daedgaT? am Senobis mopirdapired<br />

macxovris aRdgomis taZari unda<br />

aSenebuliyo, Tumca mxolod saZirkveli<br />

da liTonis raRac konstruqciebia, vanos<br />

`gamWvirvale~ policias ki, romlebsac<br />

patimrebi jurRmulebs uwodeben, uceb<br />

aSeneben. imedi maqvs, rom RvTis wyalobiT,<br />

axali xelisuflebis mosvlis Semdgom<br />

taZari male aSendeba~<br />

Sav tansacmelSi Cacmul axalgazrda<br />

qalTan mivdivar. is goreli marina qarelia,<br />

romelsac agvistos omis dros 14<br />

wlis vaJi daeRupa.<br />

marina qareli: `omis dros Cem<br />

saxls bombi daeca da Cemi ufrosi vaJi<br />

Seiwira. Cems gogonas saxe aqvs damwvari,<br />

is saxlis nangrevbSi moyva, Zlivs amoiyvanes.<br />

mas mkurnaloba sWirdeba, magram<br />

sad maqvs amis fuli, Cem ojaxs Zalze<br />

uWirs. me TviTon patimari viyavi, 2006<br />

wels jarTis mogrovebis gamo damiWires<br />

da oTxi weli momisajes, Tumca 2008-Si<br />

gamaTavisufles. saxli viTom aRmidgines,<br />

magram sacxovreblad ar varga, kedlebi<br />

sul dabzarulia. Cemi qmari cxinvalidan,<br />

ufro zustad mamisaanT ubnidanaa, miuxedavad<br />

imisa, rom devnilia, koteji mainc<br />

ar misces. mTavrobas bolomde ver gavlanZRav,<br />

radgan Cems Svils TveSi 200<br />

lars uricxaven, Tumca es Tanxa Cvens<br />

ojaxs ar yofnis. rogor viqnebi am xelisuflebis<br />

mxardamWeri, ra gaakeTes<br />

qveynisTvis, an dRevandeli cxovrebiT<br />

rogor unda viyo kmayofili, roca ase<br />

gviWirs. Cemi meore vaJi 14 wlisaa, isic<br />

jarTze muSaobs, rom<br />

avadmyof das wamlis<br />

da saWmlis fuli moutanos.<br />

xval SeiZleba<br />

isic daiWiron. imxela<br />

tragedia gadavitane,<br />

saxlidan TiTqmis<br />

ar gamovdivar~.<br />

lali farexelaSvili<br />

goris raionis<br />

sofel saTemodanaa.<br />

absurduli mizeziT<br />

2008 wels isic daiWira saakaSvilis policiam,<br />

Tumca bolos etyoba mixvdnen<br />

TavianTi saqcielis uazrobas da imave<br />

wlis bolos amnistiiT gaaTavisufles.<br />

lali farexelaSvili: `Cven sofelSic<br />

iyvnen <strong>`qarTul</strong>i ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebi,<br />

nineli WankvetaZe, Temo xubuluri,<br />

aseve ocnebis axalgazrduli<br />

organizaciis warmomadgenlebi Camosuli.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom gvaSinebdnen, mainc<br />

mivediT maTTan Sesaxvedrad. rogorc ki<br />

xma gavrcelda maTi Camosvlis Sesaxeb,<br />

nacionalebma TavianT dampal koordinatorebs<br />

fuli dauriges da ramdenime<br />

ojaxi moisyides, seriozuli Tanxebi dauriges<br />

es Sexvedra rom CaeSalaT. Cemi<br />

mezobeli murad farexelaSvili da misi<br />

uzneo colic moisyides. swored am<br />

ojaxma damaWerina, TviTon mcemes da mere<br />

aqeT miCivles. muradi omis dros rusebisganac<br />

iRebda saCuqrebs, egona rusebi<br />

gaimarjvebdnen, magram, rogorc ki rusebi<br />

wavidnen, isev nacionalebTan gadabargda.<br />

misma colma, marina arCuaZem Tavisi<br />

zneobis daqalebi Semoikriba, Zalian<br />

undodaT aqciis CaSla, magram wesieri<br />

xalxi medgrad davdeqiT da yvelaferma<br />

kargad Caiara. stumrebma naxes dangreuli<br />

gzebi da sabavSvo<br />

baRi, ganadgurebuli<br />

xalxi, mouvleli ba-<br />

Rebi, radgan wamals<br />

ver vyidulobT. mosavali<br />

sardafebSi<br />

gvilpeba, radgan realizacias<br />

ver vaxdenT.<br />

es yvelaferi<br />

vuTxariT am xalxs.<br />

rom amboben biZina ivaniSvili rusebis kacia,<br />

maTi Semoyvana da Cveni aoxreba undao,<br />

aravis gvjera. piriqiT, batoni biZina<br />

patriotia, Cveni gadarCena unda. saakaSvili<br />

da misi banda, es yaCaRebi da<br />

virTxebi anadgureben qarTvel ers, genocids<br />

gviwyoben. ori Tvis win Cemma Tanasoflelma<br />

qalma, xuTi Svilis dedam,<br />

romelic fexmZimed iyo, muceli moiSala.<br />

es qalbatoni 5 Tvis fexmZime iyo, magram<br />

saarsebo wyaro rom ar gaaCnda, dangreul<br />

saxlSi cxovroben da aravin exmareba,<br />

imitom moiqca ase. sikvdils saswaulad<br />

gadaurCa. yvela normaluri adamia-<br />

8 gv.<br />

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8 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

7 gv.<br />

ni, Tu is mosyiduli ar aris, mxars<br />

uWers biZina ivaniSvilsa da <strong>`qarTul</strong><br />

<strong>ocnebas~</strong>, mas vuyurebT imediT, radgan<br />

is Tu gadaarCens saqarTvelosa da qar-<br />

Tvel ers~.<br />

giorgi abazaSvili (gori):<br />

`mSvidoba da siwynare minda. darwmunebuli<br />

var, karaleTSi rac moxda, es xelisuflebis<br />

mowyobili iyo. biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

ocneba, Cemi<br />

da Cemi ojaxis ocnebacaa,<br />

imitomac movedi<br />

aq, es xalxic imitom<br />

gamovida. rom amboben<br />

omis dros sad<br />

iyo biZina ivaniSvilio,<br />

imas ratom ar<br />

kiTxuloben es xelisufleba<br />

da TviTon<br />

sad iyvnen. gamoCnda adamiani, romelic<br />

marTla mogvitans sikeTes, amitomac<br />

bolomde davdgebiT mis gverdiT. erTic<br />

minda vTqva am mTavrobis gasagonad,<br />

ruseTTan urTierTobis mosurneoba salanZRavi<br />

nu hgoniaT, radgan ruseTTan<br />

urTierTobis aRdgenis da keTilmezoblobis<br />

msurvelebi varT yvela~.<br />

xalxSi cnobil advokat mamuka nozaZes<br />

vamCnev. mamuka gorelia, cxadia,<br />

yvelas kargad icnobs, ramdenime nasvam<br />

mamakacze maniSnebs, eseni xelisuflebasTan<br />

daaxloebulebi arian da ar<br />

aris gamoricxuli, provokaciis mosawyobad<br />

yavdeT Semogzavnilio.<br />

mamuka nozaZe: `am Sexvedrebis<br />

dros zonderbrigadis wevrebs specialurad<br />

aTroben, Cxubi da ayalmayali<br />

rom gamoiwvion. uamravia<br />

aq aseTi, romlebic<br />

axla daZrwian<br />

da qmedebaze<br />

etyobaT provokaciisTvis<br />

emzadebian.<br />

rac Seexeba aqciaze<br />

mosul xalxs, gorelebic<br />

arian, magram<br />

imdeni ara, ramdenic<br />

unda iyvnen. mec viyavi <strong>`qarTul</strong>i ocnebis~<br />

wevri, marTalia axla aRar var,<br />

magram Cemi protestis dasafiqsireblad<br />

movedi, imasTan dakavSirebiT, rac<br />

devnilebis dasaxlebaSi moxda. ratom-<br />

Rac amboben karaleTSi moxdao, es ar<br />

ar iyo karaleTi, goris SesasvlelSi<br />

mdebare devnilebis dasaxlebaa da ratom<br />

xdeba sazogadoebis aseTi araswori<br />

informireba, CemTvis gaurkvevelia.<br />

yovlad miuRebelia, rac iq moxda.<br />

sxvaTa Soris patriarqmac brZana Tavis<br />

qadagebaSi, rom aravin unda gabedos<br />

qvebis srola, yvelas unda hqondes Tavisi<br />

poziciis dafiqsirebis saSualeba,<br />

vinc undaT is kandidati airCion,<br />

oRond Rirseuli da ara viRacis saxels<br />

amofarebuli. vaprotesteb im Zaladobas<br />

da ukanonobas, rasac xelisuflebis<br />

momxre, degradirebuli,<br />

fulze gayiduli adamianebi akeTeben.<br />

21-e saukuneSi aseTi Zaladoba ar unda<br />

xdebodes, Tu ar undaT mosmena, visac<br />

undaT imas miscen xma, aravin arafers<br />

aZalebs. ase rom, im Zaladobis,<br />

umsgavsobis, ukanonobis da danaSaulebrivi<br />

qmedebebis winaaRmdeg protestis<br />

dasafiqsireblad movedi, rac winasaarCevno<br />

periodSi xdeba saqarTveloSi.<br />

yvela normalurad moazrovne<br />

adamiani aq unda iyos, Tumca yvelaze<br />

mniSvnelovani gorelebis aq yofnaa,<br />

radgan am protestis dafiqsireba, goris<br />

mxridanac unda iyos.<br />

mamuka eraZe, <strong>`qarTul</strong>i ocnebis~<br />

wevri: `Cvenma e.w. prezidentma Cveni<br />

Taobac ~Cagvrecxa~ da miwasTan gagvaswora.<br />

me yofili policieli var, 1992<br />

wlidan arc omi dagvklebia, arc teraqtebi<br />

da sxva ubedureba, saakaSvil-<br />

<strong>patara</strong> <strong>gorma</strong> <strong>`qarTul</strong><br />

<strong>ocnebas~</strong> <strong>didi</strong> <strong>guli</strong> uCvena<br />

ma ki viTomc araferi, mosvlisTanave<br />

yvela quCaSi mogvisrola. batoni biZina<br />

ki gveubneba, es dResac gaimeora,<br />

rom Cvens qveyanas kidev gamoadgebiTo.<br />

me imasTan mival, vinc Tvlis rom gamovadgebi.<br />

apolitikuri pirovneba var,<br />

magram biZina ivaniSvilSi vxedav sike-<br />

Tis mkeTebel kacs. batoni biZinas yvela<br />

gamonaTqvams Casafrebulis poziciidan<br />

rom ikvleven, am xelisuflebas<br />

givi TargamaZis gamonaTqvami ratom ar<br />

axsovs, romelic protestis gamomxatvel<br />

qarTvelebs, sulis amoxdiT gvemuqreboda<br />

da naZirlebs gveZaxda. ai,<br />

es aris nacmoZraobis namdvili saxe.<br />

eseni Tu kidev darCnen xelisufleba-<br />

Si, marTla amoxdian suls mTel saqarTvelos.<br />

TviTon Tu daaviwydaT Cven<br />

kargad gvaxsovs maTi winasaarCevno dapirebebi,<br />

romeli Seasrules? maTi dapirebebi<br />

haerSi gasrolili sityvebia.<br />

biZina ivaniSvili dapirebebis gareSe<br />

eweoda amxela qvelmoqmedebas, sityvis<br />

kacia, romelsac<br />

sikeTe unda saqar-<br />

TvelosTvis da<br />

imitomac gvjera<br />

misi. yvelam Tavis<br />

gulSi Caixedos,<br />

rogor SeiZleba<br />

samebis amSenebeli<br />

kaci, qveynisTvis<br />

cuds fiqrobdes.<br />

is policia da Tavdacvis uwyeba, romlis<br />

imedic aqvs saakaSvils, biZina ivaniSvilis<br />

dafinansebuli ar aris? maT<br />

aseTi materialur-teqnikuri uzrunvelyofa<br />

rom aqvT, visi damsaxurebaa?<br />

Tumca aman saqmes ver uSvela, dRevandel<br />

policiaSi profesionalebi Zalze<br />

naklebad arian. Cven rom aseTi uzrunvelyofa<br />

gvqonoda, damijereT, Cveni<br />

mosaxleoba dRevandelze gacilebiT<br />

ukeT iqneboda daculi. dRevandeli<br />

policia aris SeiaraRebuli politikuri<br />

Zala, romelic mxolod `nacmoZraobas~<br />

icavs. policia dRes e.w. gare<br />

perimetze idga, mxolod ZiriTad moZraobas<br />

are<strong>guli</strong>rebdnen, esec raRacas<br />

niSnavs, radgan mcxeTaSi, guriasa da<br />

quTaisSi saerTod ar daminaxavs. policiis,<br />

kerZod ki sapatrulo policiis,<br />

uSualo movaleobaa aseTi mitingebis<br />

dros mosaxleobis usafrTxoebis<br />

dacva, aq ki xom xedavT, Tavad aqciis<br />

organizatorebi icaven am usafr-<br />

Txoebas. esec mowmobs, rom dRevandeli<br />

policia viRac politikosis ambiciebis<br />

Semsrulebeli Zalaa. sxvaTa<br />

Soris, esec kanondarRvevaa, Cveulebrivi<br />

moqalaqe rom are<strong>guli</strong>rebs moZraobas,<br />

magram ra qnan am xalxma, iZulebulni<br />

arian TviTon daicvan aqciis<br />

monawileebi avtomanqanebis nakadisgan.<br />

am policiam an ar icis ra unda gaake-<br />

Tos, anu araprofesionalebi arian, an<br />

ician, magram Segnebulad ar akeTeben,<br />

radgan aseTi politikuri dakveTa<br />

aqvT. xelisuflebisTvis mTavaria,<br />

xalxi erTmaneTs daajaxos da rogorme<br />

daupirispiros <strong>`qarTul</strong> <strong>ocnebas~</strong>.<br />

`saerTo gazeTi~ aqciis sxva monawileebsac<br />

gaesaubra. cnobili saopero<br />

momReral leliko jafariZis TqmiT,<br />

oTxi dRe iyo xaSurSi, eka beseliasa<br />

da merab TavaZesTan erTad bevri sofeli<br />

Semoiara da kidev erTxel darwmunda,<br />

rom xalxi marTlac gausaZlis<br />

pirobebSia.<br />

leliko jafariZe: `vicodi,<br />

rom soflebSi cudi mdgomareoba iyo,<br />

magram ar megona amisTana ubedurebas<br />

Tu wavawydebodi,<br />

ara gazi, ara<br />

wyali, ara sinaTle,<br />

masobrivi<br />

umuSevroba, xalxi<br />

tiroda. gamgebels<br />

vkiTxe,<br />

soflebisTvis gamoyofili<br />

fuli<br />

sad waiRes, magram<br />

pasuxis magier,<br />

aqeT Semomitia.<br />

policiis imedad arian, maT gare-<br />

Se arc gadian xalxTan, ise eSiniaT. am<br />

aqciaze rac movismine, es iyo Sveba.<br />

biZina ivaniSvilma politikaSi mosvla<br />

maSin gadawyvita, roca ukve uzarmazari<br />

qvelmoqmedeba hqonda gaweuli. nacionalebs<br />

rom kiTxo, Turme mas politikaSi<br />

mosvla undoda da imitom<br />

iqceoda ase. ra SuaSia es, batonma bi-<br />

Zinam 20 wlis win daiwyo qvelmoqmedeba,<br />

500 eklesia aRadgina, 400-ze<br />

meti skola aqvs gakeTebuli. samebis<br />

eklesiis amSenebeli kaci, ukve istoriaSia<br />

Sesuli qvelmoqmedisa da mSeneblis<br />

saxeliT. am xelisuflebas<br />

araferi eSveleba, ganwirulebi arian.<br />

Seicvala polusebi, adre xalxs eSinoda,<br />

axla magaT eSiniaT. vSiSobdi, am<br />

aqciaze rame ar momxdariyo, radgan<br />

mZime regionia, magram saswauli vnaxe,<br />

ar megona am raodenobis xalxi Tu movidoda.<br />

viRacam Tqva 30.000 kaci<br />

iyoo, ar vici, ise magas arc aqvs mniSvneloba,<br />

mTavaria, rom xalxma gaiRvi-<br />

Za, imedi mieca, aRar eSinia. meti araferi<br />

maqvs saTqmeli, darwmunebuli<br />

iyaviT Cven gavimarjvebT~.<br />

irakli sesiaSvili: `marTlac<br />

saucxoo muxti da SeZaxili iyo, rac<br />

marto cxinvalSi ki ara yvelgan gaiges.<br />

rac mTavaria pasuxi gaeca provokatorebsa<br />

da qvis msrolelebs. merabiSvili<br />

rom `amayobs~<br />

usafrTxo<br />

qveyanaSi vcxovrob-<br />

To da Tavad rom<br />

arian provokaciebis<br />

momwyobni, amas<br />

gaeca aq pasuxi. me<br />

ar minda cifrebze<br />

konkretikis gareSe<br />

laparaki, magram<br />

pirdapir getyviT, mTeli saqarTvelo<br />

uWers mxars biZina ivaniSvils, radgan<br />

xalxs mSvidoba da bednieri saqarTvelo<br />

unda, oqtombris mere daiwyeba mar-<br />

Tlac saocnebo qvynis Seneba~.<br />

zurab gamezardaSvili (`Tavisufali<br />

demokratebis~ lagodexis raionuli<br />

organizaciis xelmZRvaneli):<br />

`miuxedavad imisa, rom devnilebi daSinebuli<br />

hyavdaT da gareT ar uSvebdnen,<br />

kaxi kalaZem da sxva liderebma mainc<br />

SeZles maTTan gasaubreba. ltolvilTa<br />

CasaxlebaSi, romelsac `verxvebs~ eZaxian,<br />

ver mogviwyves provokacia, magram karaleTTan<br />

mcxovreb devnilebTan rom mivediT,<br />

iq kaxi kalaZes marTlac araadamianuri<br />

Seuracxyofa<br />

miayenes, magram moiTmina.<br />

kotejebisken<br />

rom daviZariT, qvebis<br />

srola dagviwyes,<br />

am dros<br />

Cvens gverdiT imyofebodasaerTaSoriso<br />

damkvirvebeli kanadidan<br />

Tu aSS-dan,<br />

gaognda is kaci. Tvi-<br />

Ton iRebda da naxa rac xdeboda. man<br />

Semdeg Zalze seriozuli da mkveTri<br />

gancxadeba gaakeTa. eseni iyvnen basiSvilis<br />

zonderjgufis wevrebi, romlebic<br />

yvela Sexvedraze dagvyvebodnen. Cven<br />

maqsimalurad vcdilobdiT, rom nulamde<br />

dagveyvana dapirispirebis riski. veranairi<br />

mizezi rom ver naxes, mere ukve<br />

Ria agresiaze gadmovidnen qvebiTa da<br />

lursmniani ficrebiT. kacebs arc qalebi<br />

CamorCebodnen (rogorc gorelebma<br />

miTxres yvelaze gawiwmatebuli `qalbatoni~<br />

medole ministr xaCiZis sidedri<br />

iyo – mm..ss..) es xalxi e.w. privilegirebuli<br />

devnilebi yofilan, maT aqvT Suqi<br />

da yvelanairi sacxovrebeli pirobebi.<br />

vinc am xelisuflebis momxre ar<br />

aris, imaT arc Suqi aqvT da arc SeSa,<br />

elementarulad saWmeli rom gaikeTon,<br />

saxlebSi arian gamoketili. erTma qalbatonma<br />

gviTxra, Svilisa da meuRlis<br />

saflavzec ver mivdivaro, ai, aseT mZime<br />

mdgomareobaSi arian. miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom ase arian daSinebuli, maTi 70-<br />

80% Cveni momxrea. erT-erT sofelSi<br />

viyaviT Sexvedraze, win qalebis jgufi<br />

gamouSves, skolis an sabavSvo baRis pedagogebi<br />

iqnebodnen. ori maTgani gamomelaparaka,<br />

yvela Tqven mxares varT,<br />

<strong>`qarTul</strong> <strong>ocnebas~</strong> vuWerT mxars, magram<br />

aq rom ar gamovsuliyaviT, direqtori<br />

samsaxuridan gagvyridao. xalxSi aseTi<br />

ganwyobaa, magram, rogorc giTxariT,<br />

aris <strong>didi</strong> SiSic, Tumca dRevandeli<br />

dRe imis testi iyo, rom qarTlis mosaxleobas<br />

aRar eSinia da veRarc daa-<br />

Sineben~.<br />

manana suxiSvili

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

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_ es xelisuflebis Cveuli<br />

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Tanxa aqvs gadaricxuli,<br />

yvelas ibareben da ajarimeben. xelisufleba<br />

maqsimalurad cdilobs<br />

mosaxleobis, amomrCevlis<br />

daSinebas. xalxs gvagrZnobineben,<br />

rom yvelafers Tavad akontroleben<br />

da maTi morCilni unda viyoT.<br />

12 aTasi lari sazogadoebriv<br />

moZraoba<br />

<strong>`qarTul</strong> ocnebaSi~ gadavricxe,<br />

romlis damfuZnebeli<br />

biZina ivaniSvilia,<br />

me ki erT-er-<br />

Ti TanadamfuZnebeli<br />

gaxlavarT. es igive Cemi<br />

saxlia. sakuTar saxl-<br />

Si 12 aTasi lari mqonda<br />

Senaxuli, Tanxa erTi<br />

saxlidan meoreSi gadavricxe,<br />

risi uflebac<br />

Turme ar mqonia.<br />

Tu es fuli moparuli maqvs,<br />

an arakanonieri gziT viSove, ma-<br />

Sin unda damiWiron, xom?! ras<br />

niSnavs davasabuTo, saidan maqvs<br />

Cemi kuTvnili fuli?! maT Tavad<br />

unda damisabuTon Tu damnaSave<br />

var. kontrolis palataSi davwere<br />

axsna-ganmarteba, rom sxva Semosavlebic<br />

gamaCnia, risi Semowmebac<br />

maT Tavisuflad SeeZloT.<br />

aseve aRvniSne, rom 2005-2008<br />

wlebSi, italiaSi saqarTvelos<br />

sagangebo da sruluflebiani el-<br />

Ci viyavi da Cemi yovelwliuri<br />

Semosavali 6 aTas evros Seadgenda.<br />

garda amisa, manamde gaeros<br />

misiaSi Zalian maRalanazRaurebadi<br />

samsaxuri mqonda. ase, rom Tavisuflad<br />

SemeZlo, erTi Tvis<br />

xelfasi gadadebuli mqonoda. sasamarTloze<br />

aranairi Semxvedri<br />

kiTxvebi ar dasmula, kontrolis<br />

palatis warmomadgeneli cinikurad<br />

icinoda.<br />

xelisuflebas Cveulebad<br />

eqca adamiani<br />

arafrad Caagdos. miznis<br />

misaRwevad ukan<br />

araferze daixeven, yovelgvarzRvargadasul<br />

ukanonobaze moaweren<br />

xels, magram ase<br />

didxans aRar gagrZeldeba.<br />

yvelafers aqvs<br />

zRvari, ar SeiZleba<br />

usamarTloba usasrulod<br />

grZeldebodes da<br />

amas demokratiis fasadiT<br />

niRbavde. Tu diqtatori<br />

xar da ginda<br />

bolomde aseTad darCe,<br />

maSin nuRar TvalTmaqcob<br />

TiTqos demokratiis<br />

Suqura xar. aseT<br />

SemTxvevaSi, gagakritikeben,<br />

sxva kategoriis<br />

qveynebSi gadaxval, magram<br />

pretenzia aRar geqneba<br />

demokratiuli qveyana<br />

iyo.<br />

ucxo aravisTvisaa, rom Cven-<br />

Tan demokratia mxolod fasaduria,<br />

xolo Signidan tipiuri<br />

diqtatura da avtokratiaa, sadac<br />

sasamarTlo saerTod ar arsebobs<br />

_ mosamarTleebis mier<br />

gamotanili gadawyvetilebebis<br />

99 procenti damadanaSaulebelia,<br />

rac arnaxuli cifria, es<br />

arc erT demokratiul qveyanaSi<br />

ar xdeba. warmogidgeniaT, elCs<br />

eubnebian 12 aTasi lari saidan<br />

gqondao. Cvens qveyanaSi arse-<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

Tu saakaSvili zRvargadasul<br />

ukanonobebs gaagrZelebs, xalxi mas Tavad<br />

gamoagdebs avlabris rezidenciidan<br />

bul sasamarTlos samarTlians<br />

namdvilad ver uwodeb. es sasamarTlos<br />

garda yvelaferia. es<br />

aris saakaSvilis jibis sasamar-<br />

Tlo. amaSi sakuTari gamocdilebiT<br />

davrwmundi. saapelaciomac<br />

yovelgvari axsna-ganmartebis<br />

gareSe wina gadawyvetileba<br />

ucvlelad datova ZalaSi. sasamarTlos<br />

gadawyvetilebaSi kuriozuli<br />

Secdoma aRmovaCineT<br />

_ daskvnaSi miTiTebulia, rom<br />

aRniSnuli Tanxa ver meqneboda,<br />

radgan 2006 wlis oqtomberSi<br />

elCis Tanamdebobidan gavTavisufldi,<br />

rac sicruea. sinamdvileSi,<br />

Cemi elCis Tanamdebobidan<br />

gaTavisufleba 2008 wlis agvistos<br />

moxda. me Tu mkiTxavT,<br />

mxolod es Secdomaa sakmarisi,<br />

raTa saqme dairRves da samarTlianad<br />

moxdes misi xelaxali<br />

ganxilva.<br />

am fonze, bunebrivia,<br />

xelisuflebis mxridan<br />

yvelaferia mosalodneli.<br />

aravin icis, xalxis<br />

winaaRmdeg kidev ra<br />

represiebs ganaxorcieleben,<br />

magram, merwmuneT,<br />

rac ufro agresiul<br />

formebs mimarTaven<br />

sakuTari xalxis winaaRmdeg,<br />

Zalian male bumerangiviTdaubrundebaT<br />

ukan.<br />

maTsave interesSia, ara<br />

sityviT, aramed realurad Tavisufali<br />

arCevnebi Caataron. soflebSi,<br />

sadac realuri informacia<br />

xelmiuwvdomelia, xalxs<br />

ajereben, TiTqos <strong>`qarTul</strong> <strong>ocnebas~</strong><br />

ruseTis Semoyvana gvinda.<br />

amitom mosaxleobas uSualod<br />

vxvdebiT da maT simarTles veubnebiT.<br />

Cven ruseTi okupantad<br />

gvyavs gamocxadebuli. momavals<br />

natoSi, evrokavSirSi gawevrianebiT<br />

vxedavT. Tumca ruseTTan<br />

urTierTobebi mosagvarebelia. im<br />

okupantTanac dalaparakebaa sa-<br />

Wiro, amisTvis nabijebi unda gadaidgas.<br />

_ batono zaza, Tqveni dajarimebis<br />

Temas davubrundeT. rogorc<br />

viciT, kerZo pirs ama Tu<br />

im organizaciaSi kanonmdeblobiT<br />

60 aTasi laris gadaricxva SeuZlia.<br />

Tqveni 12 aTasi lari ratom<br />

gaxda problema da ra gzas ir-<br />

CevT _ gadaixdiT jarimas?<br />

_ medavebian, saidan mqonda 12<br />

aTasi lari, daasabuTe, rom es<br />

legaluri Tanxaao. Tu es Cemi<br />

fuli ar aris, Tu<br />

vinme gavZarcve an<br />

raime maqinacia Cavidine,<br />

dasaWeri<br />

vyofilvar, xom<br />

da damiWiron ma-<br />

Sin?! 12 aTasi lariswarmomavlobaze<br />

medavebian.<br />

warmogidgeniaT,<br />

evropis nebismieri<br />

qveynis yofili<br />

elCi sasamarTlo-<br />

Si daibaron da pasuxi<br />

mohkiTxon<br />

12 aTasi laris<br />

gadaricxvis gamo<br />

da 60 aTasiT daajarimon.<br />

es absurdia,<br />

Tanac Tanxa<br />

iseT sazogadoebriv<br />

moZraoba-<br />

Si gadavricxe,<br />

romlis erT-erTi<br />

damfuZnebeli Tavad var. es Wirveuli<br />

bavSvis saqcielia. jarimis<br />

gadaxdas ar vapireb, jer erTi,<br />

imitom, rom jarima kanondarRveviT<br />

damakisres. Tanac 60 aTasi<br />

lari rom gadavixado, araviTari<br />

garantia ar maqvs, rom xelisufleba<br />

ar metyvis, es 60 aTasi saidan<br />

gqondao da amis gamo kidev<br />

300 aTasiT ar damajarimebs. amaT<br />

yvelafris gakeTeba SeuZliaT.<br />

rac undaT, is hqnan, maT SeuZliaT<br />

yvelanairi ziani momayenon, Zalaufleba<br />

maT xelSia, magram male<br />

ase aRar iqneba. qonebas<br />

Tu damiyadaReben, amas<br />

kanonis farglebSi gavaprotesteb,<br />

magram am qveyanaSi<br />

samarTali ar aris.<br />

amitom velodebiT arCevnebs,<br />

raTa qveyanaSi samar-<br />

Tlianoba aRvadginoT.<br />

_ Tundac Tqveni konkretuli<br />

SemTxvevidan aSkaraa,<br />

rom, rogorc zRaprebSia,<br />

qveyanas gveleSapia<br />

dapatronebuli _ rasac<br />

mogvTxovs, yvelafers vaZlevT.<br />

Tu ase gagrZelda<br />

da yvelafris ufleba miveciT,<br />

xom SeiZleba saer-<br />

Tod SegvWamos?<br />

_ gamoCndeba ciskara<br />

da devs, romelic sofels<br />

wyals ar aZlevs, daamarcxebs,<br />

xalxi ki gaimarjvebs.<br />

arCevnebi axlovdeba,<br />

xalxi mzadaa am procesisTvis.<br />

xelisufleba SeSinebulia da<br />

provokaciebs gviwyobs. aq sxva<br />

situaciaa _ gveleSapi ukanonod<br />

iTxovs yvelafers da miaqvs kidec,<br />

magram Cven ki ar vaZlevT,<br />

Tavad miaqvs Zaladobrivad. ivaniSvilma<br />

jarima ar gadaixada da<br />

amis gamo moZalade saakaSvilma<br />

banki waarTva. ra unda eqna ivaniSvils,<br />

ukanonod dakisrebuli<br />

jarima gadaexada?!<br />

_ geTanxmebiT, magram ase Cumad<br />

rodemde viyoT, am ukanonobebze<br />

Tvali rodemde davxuWoT,<br />

xma xom unda amoviRoT, gamovxatoT<br />

protesti, Tundac amxela<br />

qonebis warTmevis gamo. iseTi piri<br />

uCans ,gveleSapi arCevnebamde<br />

apirebs Cvens SeWmas.<br />

_ sam TveSi ver SegvWams, rogorme<br />

gavZlebT. qarTvelebs ufro<br />

meti gansacdelisTvis gauZlia<br />

da axlac gavZlebT. Cven anomaliuri<br />

viTareba gvaqvs im mxrivac,<br />

rom finansuri saxsrebis gamoyeneba<br />

mxolod xelisuflebis-<br />

Tvisaa nebadarTuli. miuxedavad<br />

amisa, dRes xalxis Segneba imdenad<br />

maRalia, CvenTvis sasurvel<br />

Sedegs aucileblad miviRebT.<br />

_ Tumca xalxi, romelic mxolod<br />

mayureblad vaqcieT, ramdenad<br />

SeiZleba TqvenTvis gamarjvebis<br />

sawindari iyos?<br />

_ xalxma icis, rom arCevnebamde<br />

unda mivides. qveynisTvis<br />

axla xalxis gareT gamosvla da<br />

sxva gziT siaruli damRupvelia.<br />

es unda swored xelisuflebas.<br />

igi am ukanonobebs swored imitom<br />

akeTebs, rom opozicia aiZulos<br />

xalxi gareT gamoiyvanon. an<br />

Tavad xalxs Seuqmnas iseTi pirobebi,<br />

rom sakuTari nebiT gareT<br />

gamovidnen, magram Cven movuwodebT<br />

xalxs, ar ahyvnen am provokacias.<br />

Tu xelisufleba mainc<br />

gamoiyvans xalxs da saqmes<br />

kidev ufro gaarTulebs, mere ukve<br />

veRaravin gansazRvravs, ra<br />

moxdeba. RmerTma gvaSoros yvelaferi<br />

cudisagan. mainc mgonia,<br />

xelisufleba keTilgonierebas<br />

gamoiCens da arCevnebi metnaklebad<br />

obieqturad Catardeba. darwmunebuli<br />

var opozicia gaimarjvebs.<br />

_ Tumca faqtia, rom dRes<br />

xelisufleba ivaniSvils jabnis,<br />

Tavidan es xalxSi TanagrZnobas<br />

aCens, magram, SeiZleba, dadges<br />

momenti, roca mosaxleoba dafiqrdeba<br />

imaze, Tu rogor unda uSvelos<br />

im adamianma, romelic sa-<br />

kuTar Tavs ver Svelis, da xalxi<br />

Zlieris mxares daiWers, anu<br />

xelisuflebis. es xom xalxis<br />

Tvisebaa?<br />

_ ara. saakaSvili amiT siZlieres<br />

ki ara, sisustes amJRavnebs.<br />

xelisuflebis gadawyvetilebebi<br />

absoluturad araadekvaturia, es<br />

misi sisustea, rasac mSvenivrad<br />

grZnobs xalxi. xalxi Tavad gveubneba<br />

_ arauSavs, arCevnebi Catardeba<br />

da yvelaferi rigze iqnebao.<br />

manamde moviTmenT.<br />

_ batono zaza, rogor fiqrobT,<br />

26 maisis kompleqsidan ar<br />

unda gamovideT? gasagebia, maSin<br />

xelisuflebam gaugonari ram Caidina<br />

_sakuTari xalxis sisxli<br />

daRvara, magram es mxolod imitom<br />

moaxerxa, rom im avbediT Rames<br />

cota adamiani iyo Sekrebili<br />

da maT advilad moeria, magram<br />

200-300 aTas kacs xom ver moereva?<br />

_ gasagebia, magram sad gamoviyvanoT<br />

es 200 aTasi kaci? kargiT,<br />

davuSvaT davgegmeT aqcia da<br />

ivlisis bolos 200 aTasi kaci<br />

gamoviyvaneT da ra vuTxraT maT,<br />

rom xelisufleba gadaayenon?!<br />

modis, batono, oqtombris arCevnebi<br />

da iq kanonis farglebSi gavakeToT<br />

es saqme, xom SeiZleba?!<br />

_ rogor ar SeiZleba, magram<br />

swored magaSia saqme, rom bevri<br />

xedavs saSiSroebas, rom imis gamo,<br />

ra represiebsac xelisufleba<br />

wina saarCevno periodSi axorcielebs,<br />

SeiZleba, arCevnebamde<br />

saerTod ver mivaRwioT.<br />

_ 27 maiss da Semdgomac<br />

sxvadasxva regionebSi aqciebze<br />

quCaSi gamosuli uamravi adamiani<br />

swored xelisuflebis gasafr-<br />

Txileblad gamovida gareT. xelisufleba<br />

ukve agoniaSia. axla,<br />

200 aTasi kaci kidev rom gamovideT<br />

da xelisuflebas gadadeqio<br />

davuZaxoT, amiT qveynis ganviTarebas<br />

SevuSliT xels.<br />

_ Tundac Tqveni SemTxveva<br />

aviRoT, gana es imis maniSnebeli<br />

araa, rom xelisufleba ufro<br />

uares qmedebebze moawers xels?<br />

_ ki, ra Tqma unda,<br />

yvela ukanonoba, ganxorcielebulirepresiebi,<br />

maT Soris dajarimeba-dayadaRebebi<br />

swored amis maniSnebelia,<br />

magram gaaCnia, es<br />

ra wertilamde miva. Tu<br />

aman arnaxuli masStabebi<br />

SeiZina, mere xalxs<br />

rac ar unda vukiJinoT<br />

ar gamoxvideo,<br />

maT veraferi Sea-<br />

Cerebs da quCaSi<br />

mainc gamovlen.<br />

Tu xelisuflebis<br />

qmedebebi kidev<br />

ufro gadavida<br />

zRvars, xalxs veravin<br />

daakavebs.<br />

saakaSvili Tu ar-<br />

Cevnebs ar daTmobs<br />

da gayalbebaze<br />

wava, xalxi<br />

Tavad daaTmobinebs.<br />

rodesac xelisuflebisqmedebebi<br />

zRvars gadava,<br />

xalxi Tavis<br />

sityvas ityvis,<br />

mainc miaRwevs Tavisas<br />

da saakaSvili<br />

mainc wava.<br />

viciT, rom xelisufleba<br />

ukanonobas ukanonobaze sCadis,<br />

magram arCevnebi karsaa momdgari<br />

da <strong>didi</strong> moTmineba gvmarTebs,<br />

raTa es xelisufleba Sin mSvidobianad,<br />

kanonieri gziT gavistumroT.<br />

nuravis hgonia, rom arCevnebze<br />

xmebis arnaxuli gayalbebis<br />

SemTxvevaSi, xelisuflebas pasuxs<br />

ar mosTxoven. saerTaSoriso<br />

Tanamegobrobam, partniorma qveynebma<br />

yvelam ician, rom xelisufleba<br />

ukanonod iqceva. Cven vambobT,<br />

modiT, es ukanonoba oqtomberSi<br />

davasruloT. xelisuflebisTvis<br />

xalxis azri cnobilia.<br />

miuxedavad mosaxleobis ganwyobisa,<br />

Tu xelisufleba yvela daSvebul<br />

zRvars gadava, Caidens kidev<br />

damatebiT ukanonobebs da xelisuflebaSi<br />

yofnis gaxangrZlivebas<br />

Seecdeba, maSin xalxs win veraferi<br />

daudgeba da Tavad gamoagdeben<br />

im sasaxlidan, sadac zis.<br />

Tu saakaSvili arCevnebis gayalbebas<br />

ecdeba, vimeoreb, xalxi mas<br />

rezidenciidan gamoagdebs.<br />

Tamar SveliZe<br />

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10 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

`saerTo gazeTs~~ esaubreba<br />

politologi hamlet WipaSvili<br />

_ hamlet, rogor SeafasebT<br />

rac moxda evroparlamentSi saqarTvelos<br />

sakiTxze debatebisas.<br />

evropelma politikosebma<br />

ar ician, vinc aris saakaSvili<br />

da rasac warmoadgens misi<br />

mmarTveloba? marTalia, is diqtatori,<br />

SeiZleba, ar aris,<br />

klasikuri gagebiT, magram mis<br />

moqmedebebSi diqtaturis elementebi<br />

SeiniSneba. moswons<br />

diqtatura demokratiul evropas?<br />

_ modiT, bolodan daviwyeb<br />

pasuxis gacemas. Tqven brZaneT,<br />

rom saakaSvilSi aris diqtaturis<br />

niSnebi. rac ar gamoricxavs<br />

mTeli presis, masmediis<br />

dasjas. aris gamocemebi, maT<br />

Soris, `saerTo gazeTic~, romlebic<br />

realurad afaseben saakaSvils,<br />

magram misTvis aravi-<br />

Tar kritikas mniSvneloba ara<br />

aqvs. xan oms iwyebs, xan-bagratis<br />

rekonstruqcias akeTebs,<br />

konstitucias cvlis... es aris<br />

wminda wylis diqtatura, amas<br />

wyali ar gauva.<br />

axla, rac Seexeba evropis<br />

damokidebulebas.<br />

mogexsenebaT, saakaSvili<br />

`vardebis revoluciiT~ movida<br />

xelisuflebaSi, es revolucia<br />

ki iyo dasavlur-amerikeli<br />

proeqti, romelic saqarTvelomde<br />

bevr qveyanaSi ganxorcielda.<br />

magram saqarTveloSi yvelaze<br />

warmatebulad.<br />

TviTon saakaSvili,<br />

Tavisi amerikeli da<br />

evropeli megobrebis<br />

daxmarebiT, yvelafers<br />

akeTebs, raTa<br />

msoflios mis mimarT<br />

kargi ganwyoba hqondes.<br />

ar darCa msoflioSi wamyvani<br />

politikuri wre an organizacia,<br />

romlebic `saakaSvilebma~<br />

ar moTafles, da ar<br />

ifiqroT, TiTqos yvelaferi<br />

`vardebis revoluciis~ dros<br />

iyos dawyebuli. muSaoba am<br />

axalgazrdebma 1995 wlidan<br />

daiwyes, rodesac Jvania parlamentis<br />

Tavmjdomare iyo. axalgazrduli<br />

frTis warmomadgenlebi<br />

maSin daoTxili darbodnen<br />

msoflios sxvadasxva<br />

kuTxeSi, amaze ixarjeboda Zalian<br />

<strong>didi</strong> Tanxebi da a.S.<br />

me TviTon maxsovs, evrokav-<br />

Siris, evroparlamentis da<br />

sxva umaRlesi rangis warmomadgenlebi<br />

saqarTvelodan ise<br />

ar wavidodnen, rom ar Sexved-<br />

hamlet WipaSvili:<br />

rodnen axalgazrda Jvanias,<br />

saakaSvils, barami-<br />

Zes, burjanaZes da sxvebs.<br />

es is xalxi iyo, vinc<br />

maT saCuqrebiT avsebda,<br />

melasaviT elaquceboda.<br />

aseTi adamiani, visac fesvebi<br />

aqvs gadgmuli ucxoeTSi<br />

mravali wlis ganmavlobaSi _<br />

1994-95wlidan moyolebuli,<br />

umetesobisTvis misaRebia dasavleTSi.<br />

igi gaxlavT ruseTis<br />

winaaRmdeg xmalamoRebuli mebrZoli<br />

regionSi. saakaSvilis<br />

msgavsi liberaluri mmarTveli<br />

sanatrelia mTel kavkasiaSi da<br />

amitomac iyo axlaxan Camosulma<br />

klintonma mere israelSi<br />

rom Tqva _ saakaSvili saswaulebs<br />

akeTebs saqarTveloSio.<br />

es araa <strong>patara</strong> saqme saakaSvilisTvis<br />

da amas akeTebs is kaci,<br />

vinc Cven uWkuo gvgonia. am<br />

`qarafSutam~ SesaniSnavad au-<br />

Ro alRo situacias, daxarja<br />

uamravi fuli da misi avtoriteti<br />

dRes msoflioSi aris Zalian<br />

maRali.<br />

masTan brZola araa advili<br />

da amitomac iyo opoziciam<br />

sruli fiasko rom ganicada<br />

strasburgSi. alasania da jafariZe,<br />

xidaSeli da usufaSvili<br />

ki ara, jon makkeins ruzvelti<br />

rom gaucocxlo da rom<br />

uTxras, saakaSvili cudia da<br />

zurgi Seaqcieo, imasac ar daujerebs,<br />

isea darwmunebuli mixeilis<br />

megobrobasa da erTgulebaSi.<br />

_ sazogadoebis nawili<br />

Tqvennairad ar ifiqrobs, zogs<br />

miaCnia, rom mixeil saakaSvili<br />

sworedac rom ruseTis politikis<br />

mxardamWeria saqarTve-<br />

Zalian seriozuli<br />

samoqalaqo dapirispirebis<br />

safrTxis winaSe vdgavarT<br />

loSi da ruseTis interesebs<br />

axorcielebs. amis dasturad<br />

mohyavT igor ivanovi, romelic<br />

`vardebis revoluciis~ `monawile~<br />

iyo. amis dasturia, rusuli<br />

kapitali saqarTveloSi,<br />

benduqiZe, vaSaZe da sxvebi. zogi<br />

ambobs, ruseTis saidumlo<br />

gegmebs saarCevnodac ganaxorcielebso.<br />

_ politika iseTi ramea,<br />

rac permanentulad icvleba.<br />

rac iyo 2003 wels, axla aRaraa<br />

mniSvnelovani.<br />

ra iyo ruseTis survili?<br />

mas surda sxvis gaSlil sufraze<br />

Tamamad mosuliyo. imitom,<br />

rom is Tvlis, amierkavkasia misi<br />

gavlenis sferoa 2 saukuneze<br />

meti xnis ganmavlobaSi. aSSis<br />

WaWaneba ar iyo aq 1992<br />

wlidan. Semovida da daiwyo seriozuli<br />

moqmedebebi rac Tan-<br />

daTan gamoisaxa imaSi, rom ruseTi<br />

unda gavides da aSS-s dauTmos<br />

poziciebi, radgan es <strong>patara</strong><br />

teritoria ar aris ori<br />

gigantis moqmedebis areali.<br />

2004 wels saakaSvili kidevac<br />

Cavida ruseTSi da Sexvda<br />

xelmZRvanelobas. wasvlamde<br />

saparlamento fraqciebis warmomadgenlebs<br />

Sexvda. iq viyavi<br />

mec, roca aqebda ruseTs, aslan<br />

abaSiZes, romelsac exmareboda<br />

luJkovi da a.S. sinamdvileSi<br />

mas es ritorika ruseTis Tvalis<br />

asaxvevad sWirdeboda da<br />

moaxerxa kidevac. man moatyua<br />

ruseTi, romelic gvian mixvda<br />

mixeilis siverages.<br />

axla bevri ambobs,<br />

rom saakaSvili ruse-<br />

Tis kacia. es aris blefi<br />

da zRapari.<br />

Tu am Sexedulebas gaamyareben<br />

rusuli kapitalis arsebobiT<br />

saqarTveloSi, me mogaxsenebT,<br />

rom es kapitali aq aris<br />

mxolod imitom, rom rusuli<br />

biznesinteresebi ufro realuri<br />

da sicocxlisunariania saqarTveloSi,<br />

vidre sxva romelime<br />

qveynis kapitali, radgan<br />

ruseTisTvis cnobilia saqarTvelo,<br />

rogorc samoqmedo sivrce.<br />

benduqiZe da misnairebi ar<br />

arian rusuli orientaciis. es<br />

ukanaskneli, marTalia, ruseT-<br />

Si cxovrobda, magram is liberaluri,<br />

dasavluri Rirebulebebis<br />

Tayvanismcemelia da rogorc<br />

rusi liberalebi, isic<br />

xmalamoRebuli mebrZolia putinis<br />

da ruseTis dRevandeli<br />

xelisuflebis.<br />

_ saakaSvilma ramdenime<br />

xnis win Tqva, rom is cdilobs<br />

da surs daelaparakos ruseTis<br />

xelisuflebas.<br />

_ saqme isaa, rom man SesaniSnavad<br />

icis, `ai-ra-is~ da<br />

`en-di-ais~ gamokiTxvebiT, ra<br />

surs saqarTvelos mosaxleobas.<br />

icis, rom saqarTveloSi<br />

70 procents surs ruseTTan<br />

urTierTobis dalageba. amitom<br />

im 70 procents sakenks uyris<br />

da ambobs: mec minda, batonebo,<br />

ruseTTan urTierToba, me winaaRmdegi<br />

ara varo.<br />

Tuki mas urTierToba surda<br />

ruseTTan, ra uSlida xels<br />

wlebis ganmavlobaSi? dedis<br />

ginebiT veravisTan ver daamyareb<br />

karg urTierTobas, es martivi<br />

logikaa.<br />

_ ratom amboben, ivaniSvili<br />

ruseTis gamogzavniliao, aris<br />

amaSi simarTlis nawili mainc?<br />

_ ara, ara, gamoricxulia.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom am adamianma<br />

kapitali ruseTSi daagrova,<br />

darwmunebuli var, mas ar<br />

aqvs urTierToba ruseTis politikur<br />

wreebTan.<br />

_ Tuki mosaxleobis 70<br />

procenti Tanaxmaa ruseTTan<br />

keTilmezobluri urTierTobis,<br />

ratom misdeven qvebiT<br />

<strong>`qarTul</strong>i ocnebis~ warmomadgenlebs<br />

da lanZRaven _ wadiT<br />

`ruseTis gamogzavnil~ ivaniSvilTano?<br />

_ vinc yviris, es saakaSvilis<br />

xalxia, masa, sazogadoebis<br />

<strong>didi</strong> nawili ase ar fiqrobs da<br />

is xalxi ar yviris, gaCumebulia.<br />

saqarTveloSi dRes zustad<br />

igive ideologia vrceldeba,<br />

rac aqvs dasavleTs da aSS-s<br />

ruseTisadmi. ruseTma fexi ve-<br />

Rar unda daadgas saqarTvelo-<br />

Si, mas araferi ekiTxeba arc<br />

kavkasiaSi, arc centralur<br />

aziaSi da a.S. ase fiqroben rusi<br />

liberalebic. maT tvirTad<br />

miaCniaT kavkasia ruseTisTvis.<br />

_ ase Zalian eSinia ivaniSvilis<br />

mTeli msoflios politikuri<br />

wreebiT zurggamagrebul<br />

saakaSvils, Sefucxunebuli<br />

rom arian da Zireul sakadro<br />

cvlilebebzec rom midian?<br />

_ saakaSvils mmarTvelobis<br />

ganmavlobaSi iseTi mowinaaRmdege<br />

arasdros hyolia, rogorc<br />

ivaniSvilia. vinc iyo opoziciaSi,<br />

nel-nela yvela moisyida.<br />

ivaniSvils is ver moisyidis,<br />

amitom misTvis barieris aRmar-<br />

Tva gaxda saWiro.<br />

_ Tqven rogorc TqviT, rom<br />

ivaniSvils veravin moisyidis.<br />

brZola daZabuli iqneba. amis<br />

niSnebi aris. jer qvebis sroliT<br />

daiwyes.<br />

_ me erTi ramis meSinia, ra<br />

`gamWvirvaledac~ ar unda Caataros<br />

arCevnebi saakaSvilma,<br />

opozicia mainc ar iqneba kmayofili<br />

da araa gamoricxuli,<br />

mouwodon xalxs gamosvlisken<br />

da ar mgonia, yvelaferi mSvidobianad<br />

dasruldes. Zalian<br />

seriozuli samoqalaqo dapirispirebis<br />

meSinia.<br />

karaleTSi rac moxda, es<br />

iyo <strong>patara</strong> Sexla-Semoxla, magram<br />

gadaitaneT es mTeli qveynis<br />

masStabiT. kidev vimeoreb,<br />

sastiki winaaRmdegoba<br />

iqneba xelisuflebis<br />

mxridan da vimedovneb,<br />

biZina ivaniSvilma<br />

icis, visTan<br />

aqvs saqme.<br />

vimedovneb, mas hyavs dasayrdeni<br />

Zala. es yvelaferi seriozuli<br />

gansjis sagani unda iyos,<br />

radgan ar viciT, saiTken miveqanebiT...<br />

iranda kalandaZe

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi<br />

arCevnebamde darCa 3 Tve. koalicia<br />

~qarTuli ocnebis~ liderebis<br />

mier aqtiurad xdeba sxvadasxva<br />

(politikuri, ekonomikuri<br />

da sxva) prioritetebis gacnoba<br />

amomrCevlisTvis.<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis“ saprogramo<br />

prioritetebi qarTuli sazogadoebisaTvis<br />

cnobilia - dasaqmeba,<br />

ganaTleba, jandacva da<br />

soflis meurneoba.<br />

socialur-ekonomikuri ganvi-<br />

Tarebis programa - koalicia<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis“ xedvaa qveyana-<br />

Si arsebuli socialur-ekonomikuri<br />

problemebisa da maTi mogvarebis<br />

gzebis Taobaze, romelic<br />

efuZneba Tavisufali sabazro<br />

ekonomikis principebs da faseulobebs,<br />

amasTan iTvaliswinebs<br />

socialuri samarTlianobis da<br />

mosaxleobis cxovrebis donis<br />

zrdas, ukiduresi siRaribis aRmofxvras.<br />

aRsaniSnavia, rom programa<br />

momzadda koaliciaSi Semaval<br />

partiebTan, mecnierebTan, eqpertebTan<br />

da praqtikosebTan konsultaciebis<br />

gziT.<br />

vesaubrebiT programebis koordinators,<br />

“qarTuli ocnebis“<br />

warmomadgenels, Tavisufali demokratebis<br />

erT-erT liders, daviT<br />

onofriSvils.<br />

_ batono daviT, ratom ver<br />

SeZlo vardebis xelisuflebam<br />

aTaswleulis gamowvevebidan erTerTi<br />

umTavresis - siRaribis damarcxeba?<br />

ratom ver Camoyalibda<br />

saqarTveloSi saSualo fena?<br />

_ 2004 wlis arCevnebSi, rodesac<br />

sazogadoeba umZimesi social-ekonomikuri<br />

problemebis winaSe<br />

idga, „nacionalurma moZraobam“<br />

ekonomikis swrafi ayvavebis<br />

da mniSvnelovani socialuri paketis<br />

SeTavazebis lozungiT gaimarjva.<br />

Tumca maleve daiwyo ekonomikuri<br />

eqsperimentis ganxorcieleba<br />

„libertarianizmis“ deviziT,<br />

romelic Sors aRmoCnda realuri<br />

cvlilebebisagan da xelisuflebam<br />

uari Tqva saxelmwifos<br />

mxridan socialur pasuxismgeblobaze.<br />

2003 wlidan dRemde srulfasovnad<br />

da Tanmimdevrulad aranairi<br />

ekonomikuri politika ar<br />

ganxorcielebula. mTavrobis populisturi<br />

programebi - „siRaribis<br />

daZlevis“, „dasaqmebis“, Tu<br />

„biznesis xelSewyobis“, orientirebuli<br />

iyo mxolod propagandaze<br />

da ara Sedegze. saqarTveloSi<br />

siRaribe ufro gaizarda da amaze<br />

msoflio bankis bolodroindeli<br />

kvlevebi metyvelebs, gaizarda<br />

umuSevroba, sagareo valebi, Semcirda<br />

investiciebic.<br />

sasaciloa, rodesac<br />

xelisufleba momaval<br />

wlebSi soflis meurneobaSi<br />

4 miliardis finansirebaze<br />

saubrobs,<br />

roca mmarTvelobis 8<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi 1 miliardi<br />

laric ki ar dauxarjavT.<br />

mosaxleobisaTvis gansakuTrebuli<br />

SeSfoTebis sagani gaxda<br />

bolo wlebSi ganxorcielebuli<br />

privatizaciis procesi, saqarTve-<br />

los mTavrobis mier saxelmwifo<br />

qonebis gasxviseba xdeboda gaumWvirvaled,<br />

msxvili obieqtebi, maT<br />

Soris - strategiuli mniSvnelobis,<br />

auqcionis Catarebis gareSe<br />

saxelmwifos interesebis sruli<br />

ignorirebiT ganxorcielda. xelisuflebaSi<br />

gansakuTrebuli „popularobiT’’<br />

sargeblobs sapriva-<br />

tizacio obieqtebis simbolur<br />

fasad - 1 larad gasxviseba prezidentis<br />

gadawyvetilebiT. aseTi<br />

garigebebis mniSvnelovani nawili<br />

gaxda xelisuflebis mxridan<br />

„elitaruli korufciis“ wyaro.<br />

xelisuflebis prioriteti<br />

arasdros yofila xalxi. dResac,<br />

yvela is dapireba, rasac xelisuflebis<br />

mxridan ismens mosaxleoba,<br />

mxolod winasaarCevno dapirebebia.<br />

saSualo fenis Seqmnis interesi<br />

ar hqonda xelisuflebas,<br />

radgan saSualo fena, rogorc<br />

wesi, aqtiurad aris CarTuli politikaSi,<br />

sxvadasxva gadawyvetilebebis<br />

miRebis procesSi, es<br />

aris is Zala, romelsac SeuZlia<br />

arCevnebis bedis gadawyveta. normaluri<br />

mTavrobis mizani namdvilad<br />

unda yofiliyo am fenis Camoyalibeba.<br />

Tumca xelisuflebas<br />

urCevnia masze damokidebuli,<br />

morCili mosaxleoba hyavdes,<br />

romelic mxolod 4 weliwadSi<br />

erTxel - winasaarCevnod axsendeba.<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

moqalaqeebs rvawlianidanapirebebis<br />

mware gamocdileba<br />

aqvT, amdenad<br />

isini darwmunebuli<br />

var, swor ar-<br />

Cevans gaakeTeben.<br />

_ saprogramo<br />

mesijebi koalicia<br />

„qarTuli ocnebis“<br />

lideris, bi-<br />

Zina ivaniSvilisagan<br />

sazogadoebam<br />

mxardamWerebTan<br />

gamarTul aqciebze<br />

moismina. ivaniSvilis programisadmi<br />

interesi, iseve rogorc<br />

ndoba, sakmaod maRalia, Tuki gavixsenebT<br />

imasac, rom Cvens qveyanaSi<br />

TiTqmis 2 milioni adamiani<br />

umweo mdgomareobaSia. ra aris<br />

umTavresi Tqvens programaSi?<br />

_ 1 milion 650 aTasi adamiani,<br />

qveynis mosaxleobis naxevari,<br />

siRaribis zRvarze cxovrobs. diax,<br />

es aris am xelisuflebis<br />

rvawliani politikis Sedegi. Cveni<br />

programa realur gaTvlebzea<br />

dafuZnebuli. Cveni prioritetebia<br />

is, rasac Cveni mosaxleoba miiCnevs<br />

mniSvnelovnad - dasaqmeba,<br />

xelmisawvdomi da xarisxiani -<br />

jandacva da ganaTleba, soflis<br />

meurneoba.<br />

dasaqmebis uzrunvelyofis<br />

mizniT, mcire da saSualo biznesis<br />

ganviTarebis, soflis meurneobis<br />

xelSewyobis, investiciebis<br />

mozidvisa da warmoebis<br />

xelSewyobis, kvalifikaciis<br />

zrdis saSualebebi<br />

Cvens mier momzadebul<br />

strategiebSia asaxuli. Ti-<br />

Toeuli adamiani, sakuTari<br />

kvalifikaciis da gamocdilebis<br />

Sesabamis samuSao adgils<br />

moZebnis, gauCndeba<br />

damatebiTi Semosavlebi da<br />

gaumjobesdeba misi socialuri<br />

mdgomareoba, Sesabamisad,<br />

Semcirdeba mosaxleobis<br />

masobrivi gadineba<br />

sazRvargareT.<br />

dasaqmebaze orientirebuli<br />

politika <strong>guli</strong>sxmobs<br />

Cveni qveynis ekonomikis<br />

realur ganviTarebas. ekonomikis<br />

politikam unda uzrunvelhyos<br />

soflis meurneobis, masTan dakav-<br />

Sirebuli dargebis, mcire da sa-<br />

Sualo biznesis ganviTareba.<br />

aqve unda aRvniSno, rom ramdenime<br />

wlis win biZina ivaniSvili<br />

mzad iyo soflis meurneobis<br />

ganviTarebaSi sakuTari 1 miliardi<br />

laris daxmarebisaTvis,<br />

magram man xelisuflebisagan<br />

uari miiRo. Cveni progama,<br />

romelic iTvaliswinebs<br />

soflis meurneobis<br />

ganviTarebis erTmiliardiani<br />

fondis Seqmnas, daexmareba<br />

glexebs da fermerebs<br />

dabalprocentiani kreditis<br />

gacemaSi, ufaso sakonsultacio<br />

moxmarebaSi, miwis<br />

Sesabamisi agroteqnikiT dafinansebaSi.<br />

bazarze gasaRebis<br />

problemac moxsnili iqneba,<br />

maT xeli SeewyobaT<br />

TavianTi produqciis gasa-<br />

RebaSi da cxadia, mowesrigdeba<br />

is infrastruqtura,<br />

rac sWirdebaT. dRes qar-<br />

Tul sofelSi araa morwyvis<br />

saSualeba, aris arxebi,<br />

sadac wyali ver gadis, radgan gasawmendia.<br />

uamravi problemaa gadasaWreli,<br />

rac swored am Tanxis<br />

daxmarebiT moxdeba.<br />

„qarTuli ocneba“ fiqrobs,<br />

rom kargi iqneba, Seiqmnas mcire<br />

da saSualo saojaxo biznesis<br />

ganviTarebis fondi, romelic aseve<br />

meore wyaro iqneba dafinansebis,<br />

sabazro, magram SedarebiT<br />

dabal procentSi gascems sesxebs.<br />

_ saidan apirebs koalicia finansuri<br />

resursebis mozidvas, romelic<br />

sxvadasxva seqtorSi Caideba?<br />

_ „qarTuli ocnebis“ xelisuflebaSi<br />

mosvlisTanave pensia<br />

gaxdeba 160 lari, anu aranakleb<br />

saarsebo minimumis da saqarTvelos<br />

TiToeul moqalaqes eqneba<br />

ufaso janmrTelobis dazRveva. es<br />

yvelaferi cxadia dafinansdeba<br />

biujetidan. biujetSi amisi saSualeba<br />

yovelTvis arsebobda. xelisuflebis<br />

biujetSi rom CaixedoT,<br />

„sxva xarjebSi“ miliard<br />

larze metia gawerili, romelic<br />

yovelwliurad izrdeba- SarSan<br />

Tu 600 milioni iyo, wels ukve<br />

miliardze metia. Cveni programebi<br />

erTobliobaSi, daaxloebiT,<br />

miliardnaxevars moicavs, nawili<br />

biujetis zrdis xarjze, nawili<br />

ki aramiznobrivi xarjebis SemcirebiT<br />

gamoiZebneba.<br />

_ batono daviT, vfiqrob, bolomde<br />

mainc nu gavaxmovanebT saprogramo<br />

gegmas, radgan xelisuflebis<br />

sxvadasxva warmomadgenlebi<br />

ivaniSvilis saprogramo mimar-<br />

Tulebebis sakuTar interpretacias<br />

ukve sTavazoben amomrCevels...Tumca<br />

komunaluri problemebi<br />

da tarifebis Sesaxeb aucileblad<br />

unda gkiTxoT.<br />

_ komunaluri gadasaxadebis<br />

tarifebi 2003 wlidan yvela mimarTulebiT<br />

gegmazomierad mkveTrad<br />

izrdeboda da 2012 wlisTvis<br />

miviReT suraTi, rodesac tarifebis<br />

sididT saqarTvelom ara marto<br />

dsT-s qveynebs, aramed evropis<br />

bevr qveyanasac ki gauswro. mosaxleobisagan<br />

gadasaxadebis aracivi-<br />

lizebuli xerxebis gamoyenebiT<br />

isedac mkveTrad gazrdili komunaluri<br />

xarjebi Rarib mosaxleobas<br />

mZime tvirTad daawva - eleqtroenergiis,<br />

gazis, wylis miwodebisa<br />

da narCenebis gatanas saqarTveloSi<br />

erTi saerTo aqvs -<br />

yvela es momsaxureba TviTRirebulebasTan<br />

SedarebiT araadekvatu-<br />

rad <strong>didi</strong>a. TbilisSi wylis tarifi<br />

2003 welTan SedarebiT<br />

160% -iT gaizarda. arc erTi dapireba<br />

- 24 saaTiani momarageba,<br />

wylis xarisxis gaumjobeseba, tarifis<br />

diferencireba da sxva ar<br />

Sesrulebula da motyuebulma<br />

mosaxleobam gacilebiT Zvirad<br />

uaresi momsaxureba miiRo.<br />

TiTqmis gaormagebulia bunebrivi<br />

airis fasi, miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom bevri winapiroba arsebobs misi<br />

tarifis sagrZnobi SemcirebisaTvis<br />

- saqarTvelo Tavis teritoriaze<br />

arsebuli magistraluri<br />

gazsadenidan ufaso gazs iRebs.<br />

eleqtroenergiis tarifi amave periodSi<br />

70 %-iT gaizarda, aRsaniSnavia,<br />

rom dawesebuli diferencirebuli<br />

tarific socialurad<br />

usamarTloa.<br />

Cven umokles vadebSi ganvaxorcielebT<br />

tarifebis xelaxal<br />

da samarTlian gamoTvlas, ar davuSvebT<br />

biznesze kabalur tarifebs,<br />

rac aZvirebs produqcias<br />

mosaxleobisaTvis da xels uSlis<br />

biznesis ganviTarebas. efeqtiani<br />

da civilizebuli Sromis bazris<br />

Camoyalibeba Cveni umTavresi amocanaa.<br />

Sromis kanonmdeblobis evropul<br />

kanonmdeblobasTan harmonizacia<br />

am amocanis Sesrulebis<br />

mniSvnelovani komponentia. amisaTvis<br />

ki saWiroa axali Sromis<br />

kanonmdeblobis SemuSaveba da mi-<br />

Reba, iseve, rogorc socialuri<br />

dialogis da socialuri partniorobis<br />

efqetiani sistemis uzrunvelyofa.<br />

_ ras gvetyviT soflis meurneobis<br />

problemebze? Tqven TqviT,<br />

rom glexebs xels SeuwyobT Seqmnili<br />

produqciis gasaRebaSic, es<br />

ras <strong>guli</strong>sxmobs?<br />

_ xelisuflebam umZimes<br />

mdgomareobaSi Caagdo soflis meurneoba.<br />

ganaxevrebulia naTesi<br />

farTobebi, ganaxevrebulia mosavlianoba<br />

sxvadasxva marcvleuli<br />

kulturebis. marto xorblis<br />

warmoeba saqarTveloSi bolo<br />

ramdenime wlis manZilze 80%-T<br />

aris Semcirebuli.<br />

sasaciloa, rodesac xelisufleba<br />

4 miliardis finansirebaze saubrobs,<br />

roca 8 wlis ganmavlobaSi<br />

1 miliardi laric ki ar dauxarjavT<br />

monopoliurma fasebma aqac<br />

iCines Tavi. xorcis fasi ratom<br />

aris aseTi Zviri? imitom rom<br />

warmoeba Semcirebulia da amave<br />

dros SemoRes SezRudvebi, rom<br />

saqoneli daiklas mxolod ramdenime<br />

adgilas da xelovnuri monopoliebi<br />

Seqmnes. Sesabamisad,<br />

xorcis gasayidi fasi gaaZvirada<br />

14-18 laramde, rac warmoudgenelad<br />

Zviria am<br />

produqtze iseTi qveynisTvis,<br />

rogoric saqar-<br />

Tveloa.<br />

es problemebi iwvevs<br />

imas, rom dRes bizness<br />

daintereseba ar aqvs,<br />

arc es Sualeduri sabi-<br />

Tumo rgolebi iqmneba,<br />

rom vinmem adgilze glexisgan<br />

produqcias SeiZinos<br />

da eqsportze gaitanos.<br />

Cven xels SeuwyobT,<br />

rom warmoiqmnas is Sualeduri<br />

sabiTumo rgoli,<br />

romelic, samwuxarod,<br />

saqarTveloSi 20<br />

welia, ver Seiqmna. sasurvelia<br />

es kerZo<br />

struqtura iyos, Tumca,<br />

SeiZleba, is jer saxelmwifo<br />

iyos da Semdgom gankerZovdes.<br />

amis garda, Cven vecdebiT, rom<br />

gaixsnas rusuli bazari qarTuli<br />

produqciisaTvis. miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom saqarTvelom xma misca<br />

ruseTis msoflio savaWro organizaciaSi<br />

gawevrianebas, dRes goris<br />

vaSli mainc ver xvdeba rusul<br />

bazarze da amis Semcvleli<br />

bazari ki, faqtobrivad, verc<br />

warmoiqmna. igive SeiZleba iTqvas<br />

sxva sasoflo-sameurneo produqciaze.<br />

qarTuli produqtebis bazrebze<br />

gatana ver xerxdeba, rasac<br />

glexebs nu davabralebT. xelisuflebis<br />

uyuradRebobam da<br />

soflis meurneobis daufinanseblobam<br />

warmoqmna es problemebi.<br />

„qarTul ocnebas“ aqvs soflis<br />

meurneobis ganviTarebis konkretuli<br />

gegma, Tu rogor unda<br />

aRorZindes qarTuli sofeli da<br />

agrosasursaTo seqtori, rogor<br />

dasaqmdes mosaxleoba soflad.<br />

nino fircxalava<br />

11

12 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

erovnul-ddemokratiuli institutis<br />

(NDI-ss) mier gamoqqveynebul<br />

sazogadoebrivi azris<br />

kvlevis Sedegebze ,,saerTo gazeTs”<br />

arCevnebisa da politteqqnologiebis<br />

kvlevis centris<br />

xelmZRRvaneli kaxa kaxiSvili<br />

esaubra.<br />

_ batono kaxa, cota xnis win<br />

erovnul-demokratiulma institutma<br />

(NDI-m) sazogadoebrivi<br />

azris kvlevis Sedegebi gamoqvey-<br />

na. ras fiqrobT, kvlevis Sedegebze<br />

da aris raime konkretuli,<br />

romelsac gamoyofdiT?<br />

_ me, piradad, kvlevaSi ramdenime<br />

mniSvnelovan faqtors gamovyofdi.<br />

Ppirveli is, rom sazogadoeba,<br />

rogorc kvlevis Sedegebidan<br />

gamoCnda, saqarTveloSi arsebuli<br />

socialuri mdgomareobiT<br />

isev ukmayofiloa. xolo, meores<br />

mxriv, roca wminda politikuri<br />

xasiaTis SekiTxvebia, dasmulia<br />

vxedavT, rom mosaxleobis nawili,<br />

maincdamainc gulwrfeli ar<br />

aris Riad poziciis dafiqsirebas<br />

erideba.<br />

_ NDI-is mier dasmul SekiTxvaze_aris<br />

Tu ara saqarTveloSi<br />

demokratia, gamokiTxulTa<br />

43% Tvlis, rom saqarTveloSi<br />

demokratia ar aris. Aam mimarTulebiT<br />

viTareba Tebervlis kvlevasTan<br />

SedarebiT gauaresebulia.<br />

maSin es maCvenebeli 34% iyo.<br />

rogor fiqrobT, viTarebis gauareseba<br />

biZina ivaniSvilis irgvliv<br />

ganviTarebulma procesebma<br />

xom ar ganapiroba?<br />

_ kiTxvaSi ori faqtoria gamosayofi.<br />

erTis mxriv, respondentebis<br />

nawili, romelic ambobs,<br />

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xolo meore nawili, romelic<br />

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es maCvenebeli kvlevis mixedviT<br />

18%. adamianebis is raodenoba,<br />

romelic acxadebs, rom<br />

ar icis saqarTveloSi aris Tu<br />

ara demokratia, niSnavs imas, rom<br />

isini qveyanaSi demokratiis niSnebs<br />

ver xedaven da im adamianebis<br />

kategorias miekuTvnebian,<br />

romlebic Tvlian, rom CvenTan<br />

demokratia ar arsebobs. amitom<br />

erTobliobaSi 43+18%= 61%, es<br />

ki saxarbieleo maCvenebeli namdvilad<br />

ar aris.<br />

_ erovnul-demokratiuli institutis<br />

mier gamoqveynebul<br />

kvlevaSi dasmulia aseTi SekiTxva:<br />

,,biZina ivaniSvilis gancxadebiT,<br />

arCevnebSi gayalbebis SemTx-<br />

vevaSi, is mouwodebs xalxs qu-<br />

Cis saprotesto aqciisken. dau-<br />

WerdiT Tu ara mxars ivaniSvilis<br />

amgvar mowodebas”? gamokiTxul-<br />

Ta 53%-ma quCaze gamosvlaze<br />

uari ganacxada, 27%-ma dadebiTi<br />

pasuxi gasca, xolo 19%-ma kiTxvaze<br />

pasuxi ar icis. rogor fiqrobT,<br />

ra mizani aqvs amgvar kiTxvas?<br />

_ Tqven kvlevaSi erT-erT<br />

mniSvnelovan aspeqts SeexeT. simarTle<br />

giTxraT, aseTi tipis SekiTxva<br />

aqamde arsebul da<br />

gamoqveynebul kvlevaSi<br />

ar Semxvedria. am SemTxvevaSi,<br />

avtoris mizania, mosaxleobis<br />

azris formireba<br />

imasTan dakavSirebiT,<br />

rom biZina ivaniSvili<br />

quCaSi gasvlas apirebs.<br />

evropaSi gamarTul<br />

saparlamento debatebs<br />

Tvals Tu gadaavlebT,<br />

zogierTma evropelma deputatma<br />

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miT xelisuflebis Secvla. Cans,<br />

rom dagegmilia seriozuli kampania,<br />

raTa ucxoelebis, sazogadoebis<br />

TvalSi, ,,qarTuli ocnebis”<br />

lideri warmoaCinon, rogorc radikaluri<br />

politikosi. NDI-s Tu<br />

xalxis ganwyoba ainteresebda qu-<br />

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ratom iyo gakeTebuli? ratom ar<br />

iyo igive kiTxva sxva politikur<br />

liderTan mimarTebaSi dasmuli?<br />

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misaRebi forma quCis aqciebia.<br />

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mizezi?<br />

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palata aseTi aqtiuri ar iyo. Cemi<br />

azriT, erovnul-demokratiul<br />

instituts ar undoda xalxis<br />

sakmaod <strong>didi</strong> nawilis ukmayofileba<br />

dafiqsirebuliyo aRniSnuli<br />

samsaxuris mimarT.<br />

_ NDI-s wina kvlevebTan SedarebiT,<br />

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_ gaaCnia, am SemTxvevaSi ,,ar<br />

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uaryofiTi Tu dadebiTi<br />

poziciisken da amis garkveva<br />

mniSvnelovania.<br />

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adamianebis raodenoba Semcirda,<br />

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saqarTveloSi arsebuli<br />

viTarebis Sesaxeb azris formireba<br />

moxdes. is, rom gamokiTxulTa<br />

75% arCevnebSi monawileobas<br />

apirebs, namdvilad<br />

kargi maCvenebelia da igi xelisuflebis<br />

mcdelobas _ gaayalbos<br />

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mimarTebaSia merabiSvilis es<br />

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wina msgavs dokumentebTan?<br />

2008 wlis arCevnebSi nacionalebi<br />

movidnen programiT<br />

“erTiani saqarTvelo siRaribis<br />

gareSe”. sinamdvileSi<br />

arc es iyo programa.<br />

ra moxda, Seasrules maT<br />

es programa? aRar aris si-<br />

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sainteresoa bolodroindeli<br />

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seriozulad gapiarda mTavrobis<br />

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axali, merabiSviliseul programaSi<br />

ki sul ar aris<br />

naxsenebi mis Sesaxeb. is aTapunqtiani<br />

gegma 2011-15<br />

wlebze iyo gaTvaliswinebuli,<br />

es axali ki uaxloes<br />

oTx welzea gaTvlili. ra<br />

mimarTebaSia erTi meoresTan<br />

– sruliad gaugebaria. 2012<br />

wlis TebervalSi prezidenti<br />

saakaSvili gamovida parlamentSi<br />

da gaaJRera 5 punqtiani<br />

gegma, Tumca realurad<br />

mxolod 3 punqtze isaubra.<br />

am SemTxvevaSi arc am<br />

sam punqtze ar aris miniSneba.<br />

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Tvelos dRevandelma mTavrobam<br />

warmoadgina ra mimarTebaSia<br />

prezidentis mier ramdenime<br />

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parlamentSi gamosvlisas<br />

axalma premier-ministrma<br />

Tqva, rom mas statistika saerTod<br />

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romelic qveyanaSia, gayalbebulia!<br />

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sWirdeba...<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, nacionalebis<br />

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cota xnis win gaaJRera<br />

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im gansxvavebiT, rom is, magaliTad,<br />

laparakobs soflis<br />

meurneobis yovelwliur miliardian<br />

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gunds ar warmoudgenia. Tumca,<br />

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mimarTa xalxs da<br />

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im dros, roca kritikuli<br />

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es sistematiur xasiaTs<br />

iRebs wlebis ganmavlobaSi,<br />

es niSnavs imas, rom mTavroba<br />

ar gegmavs arc socialuri<br />

politikis SemuSavebas,<br />

arc energetikuli politi

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

kis SemuSavebas da arc sxva<br />

sferosi.<br />

ivaniSvili ki xalxs<br />

hpirdeba, rom mosaxleobas<br />

eqneba iseTi xelfasi da pensiebi,<br />

rom Tavad SeZleben<br />

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ar unda iyos saarsebo<br />

minimumze naklebi.<br />

xelisuflebis azriT ki<br />

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asi dolaris Sesabamisi. Cem-<br />

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mTavroba dolarebze,<br />

roca erovnuli valuta aris<br />

lari? an ratom unda iyos<br />

sapensio paketi asi dolaris<br />

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imitom xom ara, rom sapensio<br />

paketSi Seiyvanon<br />

dazRvevac da vauCeric?<br />

saarsebo minimumi is maCvenebelia,<br />

romelsac dRes<br />

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rom saarsebo minimumi<br />

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raime sikeTes?<br />

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biujetidanac kargi dafinanseba<br />

hqonda.<br />

-ekonomikuri programa<br />

qveyanas ratom ar gaaCnia?<br />

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qveynis ganviTarebis realuri<br />

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oligarqi uwodes?<br />

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eTer<br />

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„qarTuli ocnebis“ maisurebi<br />

acviaT da midian yvelanair provokaciaze,<br />

erTi suli aqvT, rogorme<br />

avyveT da mere es gamosvlebi iseve<br />

CaaxrCon sisxlSi,. rogorc 26<br />

maisis, 7 noembris aqciebi. karale-<br />

Tis da mereTis incidentebi imisTvis<br />

gakeTda, rom xalxi daaSinon<br />

da goris aqciaze ar mivides. mag-<br />

ram qarTlelebs ver SeaSineben.<br />

SiSis sindromi moxsnilia. xalxma<br />

dainaxa, rom SeiZleba raRac gveSvelos.<br />

qarTli Cveni qveynis beRelia.<br />

gaxsovT, rogori soflebi iyo,<br />

ramdeni sawarmo da qarxana muSaobda.<br />

axla yvelaferi dangreulia.<br />

rodesac xelisufleba eTanxmeba<br />

Tavisi qveynis ekonomikis dangrevas,<br />

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is wiravs mosaxleobas SimSiliT<br />

sikvdilisTvis. Tu ekonomika<br />

ar aris ganviTarebuli, ver ganvi-<br />

Tardeba verc mecniereba, verc<br />

kultura, verc sporti da a.S.<br />

is, rac xdeba saqarTveloSi, gansakuTrebiT<br />

ki soflad, es aris<br />

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sakonservo qarxana iyo saqarTveloSi.<br />

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iyo Tanamedrove teqnologiebze<br />

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ra unda?! Cveni unikaluri gemovnuri<br />

Tvisebebis xili uqmad<br />

lpeba da vaSli argentinidan Semoaqvs<br />

am mTavrobas. Cvens produqcias<br />

klaven, rom viRacas bazari<br />

gauTavisuflon. amiT mosaxleobis<br />

50%-s, romlebic soflad cxovroben,<br />

saarsebo saSualebas uspob.<br />

80-ian wlebSi gorSi aSenda Tanamedrove<br />

xilis gadamamuSavebeli<br />

qarxana da me TviTon gamqonda<br />

germaniaSi qarTuli vaSlis wveni<br />

cisternebiT. kidev undodaT germanelebs<br />

waReba, magram vaSlis<br />

plantaciebi gaiCexa, qarxana ganadgurda.<br />

ase iRupeba ekonomika, razec<br />

dgas qveyana.<br />

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sadac genmodificirebuli produqcia<br />

ar markirdeba. Cven imdens mivaRwieT,<br />

rom sabaJoze kontroli<br />

movspeT, markireba ar gvaqvs. anu<br />

moiwamleT, mokvdiTo, _ gveubneba<br />

xelisufleba.<br />

Cven <strong>didi</strong> xania vxedavT, rom<br />

ufskrulis piras migviyvana nacionalurma<br />

moZraobam da dRes, qvey-<br />

nis gadarCenis, aRorZinebis Sansi,<br />

romelic gamoCnda aucileblad unda<br />

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uSiSrad rom ibrZodes yvela, aseT<br />

mdgomareobaSi ar viqnebodiT.<br />

unda aRorZindes soflis meurneoba<br />

da Sesabamisad aRorZindeba<br />

mrewveloba. mTeli evropa meore<br />

msoflio omis Semdeg aRdga swored<br />

soflis meurneobis<br />

meSveobiT. batoni biZinas<br />

iniciativa soflis meurneobis<br />

aRorZinebis Sesaxeb<br />

pirdapir moipara nacionalebma.<br />

soflis dangreva<br />

daiwyo 96-96<br />

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vidre merabiSvili<br />

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manamde soflis ganadgurebaze<br />

werdnen nacionalebis<br />

da benduqiZis<br />

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raRac cifrebiT, mohyvaT<br />

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soflis produqtebi mxolod<br />

7-8% Seadgens. rac<br />

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yvelaze <strong>didi</strong> investiciebi<br />

soflis meurneobaSi ideba, faqtiurad<br />

dotaciazea ayvanili. rogor<br />

gvatyueben ase urcxvad, maSin, roca<br />

mTel msoflioSi cnobilia Sveicariis<br />

yveli da xorci.<br />

ar grcxveniaT, rom gveubnebiT,<br />

sad gayidiT gadamuSavebul nawarmso,<br />

genmodificirebuli iyideba<br />

da qarTuli xili, tomati ar gava?<br />

kitri vietnamidan SemoaqvT da<br />

xaxvi da niori egviptidan, ra Cveni<br />

ar SeiZleba gvqondes?! magram<br />

specialurad mokles qarTuli sofeli.<br />

uperspeqtivos rom uwodeben<br />

sofels, magaze unda moeTxovos<br />

pasuxi da Tu yvelaferi mSvidobianad<br />

damTavrda oqtomberSi,<br />

me, piradad, movTxov maT amaze pasauxs.<br />

dRes ra iaponias ar gaaqvs<br />

Cveni mwvanili da mawoni? an ratom<br />

mihyavT arabebs Cveni cxvari,<br />

imitom, rom alpur zonaSi gazrdil<br />

cxvars sxva<br />

monacemebi aqvs.<br />

xorcs ver gavyidoT<br />

Tundac CvenTan? ma-<br />

Sin, roca saRebaviT<br />

gajerebuli Cai da<br />

soioTi savse gadamuSavebuli<br />

xorcis<br />

produqcia Semodis<br />

saqarTveloSi. an kidev<br />

zeTi, romelic<br />

ararafinirebuli<br />

da aTasgvari minarevebiTaa<br />

savse. mzesumziras<br />

miaqvs mTeli<br />

qarTli da kaxe-<br />

Ti. am dros. ra, ar<br />

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zeTsac awarmoebda da karaqsac?!<br />

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Si, gurulebi da megrelebi dRes<br />

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simindi gaaSenebine, zeTsaxdeli<br />

auge da aRar dagvWirdeba<br />

sxva qveynidan Semotana, simindis<br />

zeTi xom dRes yvelaze popularulia<br />

msoflioSi.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

benduqiZe wers, rom Zalian cota<br />

miwa gvqonia saqarTveloSi. aba,<br />

ra iqneba, mTeli 15 welia sarwyav<br />

sistemebs angrevdnen da gahqondaT<br />

qveynidan, iseve rogorc xe-tye,<br />

melioracia sruliad mospes.<br />

aba, aRdges es sistemebi Tu<br />

ar gvaqvs saxnav-saTesi an sa-<br />

Zovrebi. Sublis ZarRvi aRar<br />

aqvs am xelisuflebas, atyueben<br />

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is xom azrze ar aris, saerTod,<br />

ra xdeba qveynad.<br />

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menejeri, rom sofeli aris prioritetuli.<br />

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dawers is xalxi, romelic er-<br />

Ti Tvis win soflis meurneobis<br />

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Tu SevSindiT, maSin aRaraviTari<br />

perspeqtiva aRar gvaqvs, morCeba<br />

saqarTvelo. ukan daxevis Sansi<br />

aRar aris. sasowarkveTilebamdea<br />

misuli raionis mosaxleoba. swored<br />

soflebidan garbis mosaxleoba.<br />

vazi aaCexines, Cai aaCexines,<br />

xils ver yidis da ra unda qnas<br />

qarTvelma glexma, banans xom ar<br />

moiyvans?! erTi <strong>patara</strong> qarxana erT<br />

sofels inaxavs da migracia aRar<br />

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romelc sunamos fiqsatorad<br />

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Semodioda valuta. samegreloSi<br />

Jasminis zeTs, vardis zeTs vamzadebdiT.<br />

es yvelaferi ucxoeTSi<br />

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30000 kaci iyo dasaqmebuli. yvelaferi<br />

ganadgurda. erTi moiyvaneT<br />

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aRorZinebaze. biZinaze rom laparakobs,<br />

TviTon rusuli fuliT ar<br />

aris Camosuli?! erTi lari mainc<br />

Tu aqvs daxarjuli qvelmoqmedeba-<br />

Si?!<br />

wyali Zalian bevria saqarTveloSi,<br />

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marto hpirdebian, rom gaakeTeben<br />

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700 lars sTxoven glexs, saxlSi<br />

rom gadaiyvanos. sada aqvs soflis<br />

macxovrebels 700 lari? an riTi<br />

unda gadaixados gadasaxadi zam-<br />

TarSi, gasaTbobad rom moixmaros<br />

gazi. mTeli tye xom Cinelebs mihyides<br />

da xalxs SeSa veRar moaqvs.<br />

18 weli evaWra ruseTi msoflio<br />

savaWro organizacias, vidre<br />

Tavisi pirobebi ar miaRebina. Cven<br />

ki ise Segvyares, arc ki vicodiT,<br />

ras niSnavda es organizacia. pirveli<br />

rasac ivaniSvili gaakeTebs,<br />

esaa laboratoriebi, raTa ar Semovides<br />

genmodificirebuli da<br />

uxarisxo produqcia.<br />

ar SeiZleba Cvennairma <strong>patara</strong><br />

qveyanam turizmi ekonomikis burjad<br />

warmovidginoT. kargia svane-<br />

Ti, mTa-TuSeTi, romelic ukve gamoacxades<br />

erovnul parkad da male<br />

CamogvaWrian, SemdgomSi isini<br />

gamoiyeneben turizmisaTvis, magram<br />

turizmiT qveyanas ver SevinaxavT.<br />

es mxolod prezidentis survilia,<br />

radgan sofeli mokla da raRac<br />

orientiri xom unda hqondes. Tumca<br />

ekoturizmis nacvlad seqsturizmi<br />

miviReT aWaraSi.<br />

`kavkasia~<br />

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14 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa ``TTaavviissuuffaallii ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss~~<br />

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ar aris, magram Zalian<br />

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Tu ara afxazeTi<br />

saqarTvelos<br />

SemadgenlobaSi.sinamd-<br />

ruseTs dRes saqarTvelos<br />

dapyrobis Tavi ar aqvs,<br />

amerikas ki amis resursi gaaCnia<br />

vileSi ise ar aris mowyobili<br />

samyaro, rogorc `rusTavi-2~ aCvenebs<br />

_ TiTqos aSS frTiani angelozia<br />

da rusebi satanebi, ase ar<br />

aris. sinamdvileSi, rogorc<br />

Tqvenc TqviT, ra Tqma unda, unda<br />

gveSinodes natosi. Tavis droze<br />

rusebi saqarTveloSi, rogorc<br />

iranelebisgan damcvelebi, ise movidnen<br />

da mere gaxdnen namdvili<br />

dampyroblebi. zustad aseTive vi-<br />

Tarebaa axla, oRond iranis magivrad<br />

ruseTia da viTom misgan dasacavad<br />

amerikelebi modian, romlebic<br />

mTavari dampyroblebi arian.<br />

ruseTs dRes aRar aqvs imis Tavi,<br />

rom saqarTvelo daipyros, amerikas<br />

ki amis resursi aqvs.<br />

_ kaxa, xom ar niSnavs es, imas,<br />

rom aSS-s da ruseTs ukve <strong>didi</strong><br />

xania saqarTveloSi gavlenis sferoebi<br />

gadanawilebuli aqvT...<br />

_ aSS-sTvis afxazeTi da cxinvali,<br />

ubralod, zedmeti Tavis<br />

tkivilia. saqarTvelos xelisuflebisTvis<br />

aseve misaRebia dRevan-<br />

deli status-qvo imitom, rom saakaSvilma<br />

Tqva, mTavaria avlabari<br />

aris saqarTvelos teritoriis<br />

sazRvrebSio. amitom masac naklebad<br />

anaRvlebs dabrundeba Tu ara<br />

afxazeTi da cxinvali saqarTvelos<br />

SemadgenlobaSi. erTaderTi<br />

visac es viTareba ar awyobs, ruseTia.<br />

ruseTma afxazeTSi da cxinvalSi<br />

konfliqtebi daiwyo, raTa<br />

saqarTveloze gavlena SeenarCunebina.<br />

vinc ambobs, rom ruseTs<br />

oCamCireSi porti sWirdebao, igi<br />

eqsperti ki ara, ubralod uwignuri<br />

adamiania da kavkasiis istoriaSi<br />

araferi waukiTxavs. oCamCire<br />

arasdros aranairi strategiuli<br />

punqti ar yofila. ruseTisTivs<br />

afxazeTi da samxreT oseTi es iyo<br />

danarCen saqarTveloze zewolis<br />

berketi. gamsaxurdia, romelsac<br />

tyuilis Tqma ar sCveoda, ambobda<br />

_ mirekavs gorbaCovi da meubneba_<br />

an axal samokavSiro xelSekrulebaSi<br />

Semodi an afxazeTs da samxreT<br />

oseTs wagarTmevo. ruseTma<br />

scno afxazeTis da samxreT-oseTis<br />

damoukidebloba da amiT gaaZliera<br />

es berketi. Tu saqarTvelo ityvis_<br />

ki, batono, gqondeT Tqven<br />

afxazeTi da samxreT-oseTi da Cven<br />

amerikuli gavlenis zonaSi davr-<br />

CebiT, es ruseTs ar awyobs. ruseTs<br />

klde-RorRiani soflebi ar<br />

sWirdeba, aramed saqarTvelo, romelic<br />

samxreT-kavkasiaze gavlenis<br />

berketia. amitomac putinma Tqva _<br />

ruseTi mzadaa afxazeTis da samxreT-oseTis<br />

statusi xelaxla ganixiloso.<br />

_ kaxa, saSinao politikaze Tu<br />

visaubrebT, bevri aRniSnavs haerSi<br />

revoluciis suni trialebso.<br />

Tqven Tu grZnobT am suns?<br />

_ samwuxarod, es suni ar<br />

trialebs, Tumca Zalian kargi iqneboda<br />

Tu itrialebda. diqtatoruli<br />

reJimebi revoluciis gare-<br />

Se ar Seicvleba. revolucia ar<br />

niSnavs, rom maincdamainc kreiserma<br />

avroram zalpi esrolos qveynis<br />

mTavrobis rezidencias. revolucia<br />

aris, rodesac xalxi kanonis<br />

CarCoebidan gamodis. sxvanairad<br />

avtoritaruli reJimebi ar icvleba.<br />

Tu kanoniT imoqmedeb, yvela<br />

jarimas gadaixdi da xels mouwer<br />

yvela oqmze, danamdvilebiT SeiZleba<br />

vTqvaT, ase xelisufleba ar<br />

Seicvleba.<br />

_ kaxa, alianszec minda gki-<br />

TxoT, ra kriteriumebiT SearCieT-<br />

`TeTrebi~ da `tradicionalistebi~?<br />

_ mniSvnelovania, `Tavisufalma<br />

saqarTvelom~ partniorebTan<br />

erTad realurad SeZlos qarTveli<br />

sazogadoebas arCevani misces.<br />

bolo 20 welia xalxs eubnebian<br />

_airCie, marto pro-amerikul liberalur<br />

partiebs Soriso. Cven,<br />

principulad gansxvavebul arCevans<br />

vTavazobT sazogadoebas _ es aris<br />

arCevani ara imaze, Tu vin ukeTesi<br />

marionetuli reJimi iqneba aSSsTan<br />

mimarTebaS, aramed arCevani,<br />

romelic saqarTvelos damoukideblobas<br />

<strong>guli</strong>sxmobs. or ZiriTad<br />

punqtze vTanamSromlobT _ erTi<br />

esaa ideologiuri _ ar viziarebT<br />

qveynis ganviTarebis im gzas, romelic<br />

aSS-m da vaSingtonma Tavs<br />

mogvaxvia, ar viziarebT liberalur<br />

faseulobebs da migvaCnia,<br />

rom erovnuli faseulobebi, interesebi<br />

unda iyos saqarTvelos ganviTarebis<br />

fundamenti da ar unda<br />

viyoT viRacis danamati, ar unda<br />

vimarTebodeT sxva qveynebidan.<br />

Tamar SveliZe

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

gaumjobesebeli saarCevno<br />

garemosa dda aseTi garemos gamo<br />

arCevnebze mosaloddneli<br />

ddarRvevebis Taobaze gvesaubreba<br />

qalTa samoqalaqo moZraoba<br />

`Tamarionis” gamgeobis wevri<br />

dda arasamTavrobo organizacia<br />

“Tavisufali arCevanis” Tavmjddomare<br />

_ qalbattoni manana<br />

biwaZe-miqelaZe. qalbattoni<br />

manana imavddrouladd “saarCevno<br />

siebis ddazusttebis kkomisiis”<br />

wevric gaxlavT.<br />

_ qalbatono manana, Tqveni<br />

organizacia wlebia monawileobT<br />

arCevnebSi. amJamad, m.kacitaZis<br />

xelmZRvanelobiT, “amomrCevelTa<br />

siebis dazustebis”<br />

komisiis” wevric brZandebiT,<br />

rogorc arasamTavrobo seqtoris<br />

warmomadgeneli da Tqvens<br />

pozicias (realuri opozicionerobis<br />

Taobaze, radgan komisiaSi<br />

viTom opoziciiis wevrebic<br />

arian) komisiis winaSe Riadac<br />

afiqsirebT. ra mdgomareobaa<br />

dRes ybadaRebuli saarCevno<br />

garemos gaumjobesebis<br />

kuTxiT. kidev erTxel gayalbdeba<br />

Tu ara oqtomberSi daniSnuli<br />

saparlamento arCvenebi?<br />

_ 2012 wlis arCevnebisadmi<br />

gansakuTrebiT maRali interesi<br />

aRaravis akvirvebs,<br />

radgan wels qarTulma sazogadoebam<br />

demokratiis e.w testi<br />

unda Caabaros _ moxdeba Tu<br />

ara xelisuflebis mSvidobiani<br />

cvla, Tu avtoritaruli reJimis<br />

sabolood damyarebisa da<br />

damkvidrebis gziT wava qveyana.<br />

demokratiuli procesis stabilurobis<br />

erT-erT umTavres garantias<br />

Tavisufali da samarTliani<br />

arCvenebis gziT xelisuflebis<br />

Secvla warmoadgens.<br />

Tavad saarCevno procesi ki ramodenime<br />

aspeqtisgan Sedgeba.<br />

es aris konkurentunariani saarCevno<br />

garemo, mediapluralizmi,<br />

daxvewili saarCevno<br />

kodeqsi, dazustebuli amorCevelTa<br />

siebi da sxva.<br />

samwuxarod, ukanaskneli<br />

Tveebis ganmavlobaSi saarCevno<br />

garemo sagrZnoblad damZimda.<br />

rac, pirvel rigSi, imaSi gamoixata,<br />

rom “finansuri monitoringis”<br />

farglebSi kontrolis<br />

palatis mier ganxorcielebuli<br />

RonisZiebebi, samarTliani<br />

arCevnebis saboloo Sedegis<br />

dasadebad politikur subieqtebs<br />

araTanabar pirobebs uqmnis.<br />

ikveTeba, erTis mxriv, erTerTi<br />

subieqtis mier ganxorcielebuli<br />

finansuri operaciebis<br />

totaluri kontroli da<br />

meores mxriv (xelisuflebis<br />

mier) , saxelisuflebo partiis<br />

sasargeblod, sabiujeto<br />

saxsrebis ganukiTxavi gankargva,<br />

razec kontrolis palata<br />

“saeWvod” sdums. es mafiqrebinebs,<br />

rom xelisufleba ver,<br />

an ar flobs situacias, ar<br />

aris mzad cvlilebebisTvis da<br />

ewinaaRmdgeba arCevnebis Cata-<br />

rebis demokratiul process,<br />

rac safrTxis Semcvelia, rogorc<br />

saarCevno procesisaTvis,<br />

aseve qveynis momavlisTvisac.<br />

mmarTveli gundis mier monopolizebuli<br />

media-sivrcec<br />

sazogadoebas mravalferovani<br />

informaciis miRebis saSualebas<br />

ukargavs, riTac irRveva saqarTvelos<br />

konstituciiT mini-<br />

Webuli adamianis ZiriTadi uflebebi<br />

da Tavisuflebebi.<br />

_ garemos gaumjobesebis<br />

nacvlad saarCevno kodeqsSi<br />

“demokratiuli arCevnebis CatarebisTvis”<br />

arcTu saxarbielo<br />

cvlilebebi Sevida.<br />

_ saarCevno kodeqsSi Setanili<br />

cvlilebebi ver uzrunvelyofs<br />

garemos gaumjobesebas.<br />

piriqiT, umetes SemTxvevaSi,<br />

kodeqsis muxlebi kidev<br />

ufro amZimebs arsebul viTarebas.<br />

normaTa bundovaneba ki SeuZlebels<br />

xdis sakiTxis naTlad<br />

gaazrebas, riTac xelisuflebas<br />

diskreciis (TviTnebobis<br />

_ b.a.) saSualeba eZlevaT,<br />

rac aseve kenWisyris dRes<br />

arCevnebis procesze damkvirvebelTa<br />

mxridan saCivris<br />

daweris albaTobas Seamcireb,<br />

riTac xelisuflebas saerTa-<br />

Soriso asparezze arCevnebis<br />

demokratiulad Catarebis iluziiis<br />

SeqmnaSi Seuwyobs xels.<br />

_ aseT faqtebs, rodesac<br />

saerTaSoriso sazogadoeba nacionalur<br />

xelisuflebas ar-<br />

Cevnebs “upravebda” _ araerTi<br />

arCevnebisas ukve SeveswariT.<br />

RmerTma nu hqnas, igive ganmeordes.<br />

_ saarCevno procesis yvelaze<br />

mgrZnobiare Tema saarCevno<br />

siebia. marTalia, partiaTa<br />

SeTanxmebis safuZvelze “amomrCevelTa<br />

siebis dazustebis<br />

komisia” Seiqmna, Tumca warsu-<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.net<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

lis uaryofiTi gamocdileba,<br />

zogadad, saxelmwifo komisiebisadmi<br />

da dRevandeli politikuri<br />

mdgomareoba, komisiis<br />

mimarT, sazogadoebaSi garkveul<br />

undoblobas iwvevs.<br />

_ “saxelis gatexvas Tavis<br />

gatexva sjobiao”.<br />

_ komisiam ukve Caatara<br />

“kardakari” (romlis meTodologiac<br />

moamzada ssip- ”saar-<br />

Cevno sistemebis ganviTarebis,<br />

refomebisa da swavlebis centrma”,<br />

mis kontrols, saarCevno<br />

kodeqsis Tanaxmad, cesko<br />

axorcilebs.)<br />

_ ceskos ki xelisufleba<br />

akontrolebs<br />

da ra gamodis, rom<br />

“xelisufleba Tavis<br />

Tavs gaakontrolebs”_<br />

es xom daujerebelia?<br />

_”kardakari” Catarda<br />

mTeli saqarTvelos<br />

masStabiT da komisia<br />

Tavis saboloo produqts,<br />

anu dazustebul<br />

siebs a.w. 1 agvis-<br />

demokratiuli<br />

tos ganasajaroebs. Tumca ukve<br />

pirveladi monacemebis analizic<br />

gviCvenebs, rom xelisuflebas<br />

gadamowmebul amorCevelTa<br />

siaSic rCeba manipulirebis<br />

berketebi.<br />

xelisuflebis `reformatoruli`<br />

politikis Sedegad<br />

Cvens qveyanaSi momravlda<br />

usaxlkaroTa ricxvi.., anu<br />

im moqalaqeTa ricxvi,<br />

romlebmac sxvadasxva<br />

(ZiriTadad sabanko)<br />

problemebis gamo dayides<br />

sacxovrebeli<br />

binebi da amJamad qiriT<br />

an giraoTi cxovroben.<br />

Tu es moqalaqeebi<br />

ar daregistrirdebian axal<br />

misamarTze an ar aiReben<br />

`umisamarTo~ statusis piradobis<br />

mowmobas, isini arCevneb-<br />

Si monawileobis uflebas dakargaven,<br />

radgan meTodologiis<br />

mixedviT maT Zveli sacxovrebeli<br />

adgilidan axali mepatroneebi<br />

amoweren da maTi xmebi<br />

daikargeba.<br />

_ es xmebi 24%-s Seadgens.<br />

es is procenti xom ar aris,<br />

risi garantirebuli imedic xelisuflebas<br />

aqvs?<br />

_ gayalbebis teqnologiebi<br />

wlebis ganmavlobaSi ixveweboda.<br />

erT-erTi warmatebuli me-<br />

Todi ki ararsebuli pirovnebebis<br />

sxvadasxva misamarTze miweraa,<br />

rac wlebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

maRal dividendebs aZlevda xelisuflebas.<br />

komisiis dRevandeli<br />

meTodologia am darRvevebis<br />

gauqmebis saSualebas nawilobriv<br />

iZleva. kerZod, imave<br />

misamarTze registrirebuli<br />

piris gancxadebis safuZvelze,<br />

komisia uflebamosilia siidan<br />

amoiRos ucnobi piri. Tumca<br />

qveyanaSi Seqmnili SiSisa da<br />

undoblobis atmosferos, (an<br />

sxva saeWvo garemoebaTa gamo),<br />

moqalaqeTa nawili uars acxadebs<br />

gancxadebis Sevsebaze, rac<br />

xelisuflebas gayalbebis msuye<br />

niadags uqmnis.<br />

aseve ver xerxdeba axlada-<br />

Senebuli saxlebis macxovrebelTa<br />

umravlesobis aRwera da<br />

dazusteba,radgan binebis umravlesoba<br />

daketilia an remonti<br />

mimdinareobs. ris gamoc dauzustebeli<br />

rCeba am saxlebSi<br />

miwerili pirebis arsebobac.<br />

dangreuli saxlebisa da ararsebul<br />

misamarTebze mcxovrebTa<br />

gadamowmebac SeuZlebelia. xSiria<br />

axali damisamarTebis gamo<br />

saxelSecvlili quCebis Sedegad<br />

piradobis mowmobasa da<br />

faqtobriv mismarTs Soris<br />

cdomilebis arseboba. fiqsirdeba<br />

dublirebuli misamarTebis<br />

faqtebic, anu quCebis gadakveTaze<br />

kuTxis saxlebSi<br />

mcxovrebi mosaxleobis daregistrireba<br />

orive quCaze calcalke.<br />

problemas warmoadgens<br />

arCevnebis Catareba<br />

mxolod xelisuflebis<br />

keTil nebazea damokidebuli<br />

egreT wodebuli `atstupnikebis”<br />

mdgomareobac. maT umravlesobas<br />

saqme sasamarTloSi<br />

aqvT Setanili, saqmis warmoeba<br />

dasrulebuli ar aris, saxlis<br />

mesakuTreebi ki maTi siidan<br />

amoRebas<br />

iTxoven,<br />

ri-<br />

Tac zemoTaRniSnulmoqalaqeebs<br />

ekargebaT<br />

arCevnebSi monawileobis ufleba.<br />

seriozul problemas warmoadgens<br />

Sida migraciac. cxovrebis<br />

gausaZlisma pirobebma<br />

dacala soflebi da mosaxleobis<br />

udidesma nawilma dedaqalaqSi<br />

moiyara Tavi. kenWisyris<br />

dRes maTi raionebSi registraciis<br />

adgilebze Casvla maTTvis<br />

garkveul siZneleebTan, maT<br />

Soris finansurTanac iqneba dakavSirebuli.<br />

opozicias ki, savaraudod,<br />

Tavisi mxardamWerebis<br />

transportiT momsaxureba<br />

mosyidvad CaeTvleba. es xmebis<br />

udidesi raodenobi? dakargvas<br />

gamoiwvevs.<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

cnobilia, rom wlebis man-<br />

Zilze xelisufleba warmatebiT<br />

manipulitebda sazRvargareT<br />

myofi moqalaqeebi? monacemebiT.<br />

komisiis meTodologiis<br />

mixedviT, aqac, Tu ojaxis<br />

wevri gancxadebiT ar daadasturebs<br />

pirovnebis sazRvargareT<br />

yofnis faqts, (kvlav xelisuflebis<br />

mimarT SiSisa da<br />

undoblobis gamo) komisia uflebamosilia<br />

sazRvargareT<br />

myofi piris monacemi ucvleli<br />

datovos, rac isev “Sav<br />

xvrels” tovebs siaSi.<br />

mosaxleobis garkveuli nawili<br />

undoblobiT ekideba e.w.<br />

ID baraTebs da maTi aReba ar<br />

surT. aqac amorCevelTa xmebis<br />

dakargvis safrTxe iqmneba, Tuki<br />

xelisufali sapatriarqos<br />

rekomendacias ar gaiTvaliswinebs<br />

da msoflioSi aprobirebuli<br />

meTodiT, mosaxleobas<br />

alternatiuli piradobis mowmobis<br />

aRebis saSualebas ar<br />

miscems. Aamas garda, rogorc<br />

cnobilia, ID baraTSi sacxovrebeli<br />

adgili miTiTebuli ar<br />

aris (igi CipSia moTavsebuli<br />

da misi wakiTxva mxolod kompiuterulad<br />

aris SesaZlebeli),<br />

im SemTxvevaSi, Tu am baraTis<br />

mflobeli siaSi gamotovebuli<br />

aRmoCnda, misi amomrCevelTa<br />

aRricxvis reestrSi,<br />

kardakaris registratoris mier<br />

Seyvana (meTodologiis Sesabamisad)<br />

xdeba ID baraTis<br />

mflobelis mier miTiTebul<br />

misamarTze registrirebuli<br />

moqalqis mxolod zepiri dasturis<br />

safuZvelze, rac, vfiqrob,<br />

garkveul riskebTan aris<br />

dakavSirebuli.<br />

_ qalbatono manana, Tqvens<br />

mier warmodgenili analizidan<br />

ikveTeba, rom “ssip-is” mier<br />

momzadebuli meTodologia<br />

Sorsaa srulyofisagan,<br />

ramdenadac xelisuflebis<br />

sasargeblod saar-<br />

Cevno xmebis gasayalbeblad<br />

masSi uxvadaa<br />

datovebuli “Savi<br />

xvrelebi”. amdenad,<br />

albaT, isev<br />

samoqalaqo sazogadoebissaxelmwifoebrivi<br />

TviT-<br />

Segnebis, pasuxismgeblobisa<br />

da ar-<br />

Cevnebze mosaxleobis<br />

sruli mobilizaciis<br />

imedi unda<br />

viqonioT.<br />

_ Cemi gamocdileba<br />

da procesebis<br />

analizi<br />

saSualebas maZlevs<br />

davaskvna, rom<br />

saarCevno siebis srulyofac,<br />

saarCevno garemos<br />

gaumjobesebac da masze damokidebuli<br />

demokratiuli da samarTliani<br />

arCevnebis Catarebac<br />

mxolod xelisuflebis keTil<br />

nebazea damokidebuli. amitom,<br />

vfiqrob, yvela SesaZlo Sedegebze,<br />

rac SeiZleba dadges,<br />

rogorc saarCevno procesSi,<br />

ise arCevnebis saboloo dasrulebamde<br />

srul pasuximgeblobas<br />

(qarTul sazogadoebasTan<br />

erTad), pirvel rigSi, xelisuflebas<br />

vakisreb. amasTan, gayalbebis<br />

SemTxvevaSi, imeds vitoveb,<br />

rom sazogadoeba moaxerxebs<br />

Tavisi saarCevno xmebis<br />

samarTlian CarCoebSi dacvasac.<br />

baia amaSukeli<br />

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16 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

intterviu glddanis iveriis<br />

yovladdwmidda RmrTismSoblis eklesiis<br />

winamZZRvarTan mama basil<br />

mkalaviSvilTan<br />

_ mamao basil, amas winaT<br />

Sekrebilma wminda sinodma gana-<br />

Cina, rom samRvdelo pirebi ar<br />

unda daeswron saero mitingebs,<br />

ar Caerion politikur procesebSi.<br />

iyo saubari e.w. Cipian<br />

pasportebzec, romelzec sinodma<br />

nebayoflobiTobis kurTxeva<br />

gasca. ratom gaxda aucilebeli<br />

sinodis Sekreba axla, roca Cipian<br />

pasportebze ukve erTi weliwadia<br />

laparakoben? da kidev,<br />

mitingebze daswreba-ardaswrebaa<br />

axla yvelaze mTavari Tu bagratis<br />

taZris sakiTxi, daviT gareji,<br />

ieRovelTa momZlavreba da<br />

a.S.<br />

_ saxeliTa mamisaTa da Zisa-<br />

Ta da sulisa wmidisaTa. CvenTan<br />

ars RmerTi.<br />

mogaxsenebT, rom sinodis<br />

sxdoma, romelic amas winaT gaimarTa,<br />

mowveuli iyo mTavrobis<br />

dakveTiT, misi ZiriTadi mizani<br />

iyo daetuqsaT is sasuliero<br />

pirni, romelnic eswrebodnen<br />

mTavrobisadmi opoziciurad ganwyobili<br />

partiebis Sekrebebs.<br />

samRvdeloebam xalxis Tvalis<br />

asaxvevad krebis mizezad moitana<br />

TiTqos Cipian pasportebTan<br />

dakavSirebiT iwvevdnen krebas.<br />

sasaciloa, satirali rom ar<br />

iyos. eleqtronuli pasportebis<br />

gacema erTi welia, rac daiwyo.<br />

TiTqmis naxevarma saqarTvelom<br />

aiRo ID baraTebi. sapatriarqom<br />

axla gaiRviZa?<br />

minda pirdapir ganvacxado,<br />

rom sapatriarqos marTavs xelisufleba,<br />

isini uSualod<br />

mTavrobis dakveTebs asruleben.<br />

amas winaT gaJRerda borjom-bakurianis<br />

mitropolitis meufe<br />

serafimes interviu, farulad<br />

Cawerili.<br />

religiuri umciresobis<br />

Sesaxeb SarSandeli<br />

kanonproeqtis<br />

miRebas ar eTanxmeboda<br />

sinodis wevrebis<br />

garkveuli nawili. es<br />

sinodis oqmSi Caiwera,<br />

magram xelisuflebis<br />

CareviT, komprometirebuli<br />

sasuliero pirebis<br />

daSinebiT, es<br />

fraza gaqra.<br />

ufro metic, saSobao epistole<br />

gigi ugulavasTan moxvda.<br />

man mourideblad Caaswora epis-<br />

tole, ismis kiTxva: saqarTvelos<br />

patriarqi hyavs Tu gigi ugulava<br />

asrulebs mis movaleobas? ra<br />

unda saSobao epistoles an nebismier<br />

sabuTs gamoqveynebamde<br />

meriaSi?<br />

imis magivrad, rom<br />

sinodis krebas iwvevdnen<br />

saqarTvelos udides<br />

tkivilze: daviT<br />

garejze, romelsac vkargavT,<br />

bagratis ta-<br />

Zarze, romelic saqar-<br />

Tvelos sulier saxes<br />

warmoadgens. kaTolikuri<br />

stiliT aRadgenen,<br />

is, rom erekles<br />

saxl-muzeumi saqarTvelos<br />

dauZinebeli mtris<br />

aRa-mahmad-xanis<br />

STamomavlobas mihyides,<br />

dampyrobelis piradi<br />

nivTebis gamosafenad,<br />

is, rom wminda<br />

ninos saxelobis saswavlebeli<br />

unda daangrion<br />

da islamuri Senoba<br />

aagon, quTaisSi avtoqarxnis<br />

dasaxlebis<br />

teritoriaze budas eklesias<br />

aSeneben Cinelebi<br />

da marTlmadidebel<br />

qarTvelebs monebiviT<br />

amuSaveben, is, rom asia-<br />

Tasi mowamis adgilze<br />

buda-bars ageben da<br />

mravali sxva, romelic<br />

Cven ar viciT. romeli<br />

erTi CamovTvaloT.<br />

amaze rom imsjelon, piriqiT,<br />

sapatriarqoSi Tbilad mokala-<br />

Tebuli sasulieri ierarqebi<br />

aras dagideven, magaliTisaTvis<br />

moviyvan kalistrate margalitaSvils,<br />

romelic saqarTvelos<br />

meore sataxto qalaqis patriarqad<br />

warmogviCens Tavs da mis<br />

Svilobils, saqarTvelos damaqcevars,<br />

aRmaSenebels uwodebs.<br />

minda yvelam icodes,<br />

rom sinodi orad<br />

aris gayofili _<br />

saakaSvilisa da<br />

ivaniSvilis momxreebad<br />

iTvisebs bagratis taZris restavraciisTvis<br />

gamoyofil Tanxas<br />

da saerTod ar fiqrobs saqarTveloze.<br />

ai, am fonze imaze msjeloben,<br />

rom sasuliero piri saqarTvelos<br />

gadarCenisaTvis Sekrebil<br />

xalxs ar unda SeuerTdes,<br />

raTa misi gaWirveba ar gaiziaros?<br />

amaze meti cinizmi gagonila?<br />

Tqven axseneT aseve ieRovel-<br />

Ta seqtis momZlavreba. maTma<br />

qmedebam ukve kulminacias miaRwia.<br />

TiTqos mosawyenia es braldebebi,<br />

magram faqtebs ver gaveqceviT.<br />

vin unda izrunos im aRviraxsnilobis<br />

asalagmad, romelsac<br />

ieRovelTa seqtis warmomadgenlebi<br />

ewevian? Cven movaxerxeT<br />

farulad Cagvewera<br />

ieRoveli qalis qadageba marTlmadidebelTa<br />

winaaRmdeg, romelic<br />

ganTavsebulia internetSi,<br />

feisbukze, Cems gverdze. nebismiers<br />

SeuZlia naxos.<br />

sapatriarqos es kriminaluri<br />

seqta arasodes daugmia. piriqiT,<br />

1992-95 wlebSi, roca<br />

mcxeTa-Tbilisis saeklesio<br />

krebebze kategoriulad moviTxovdi<br />

krebis naxevari dro<br />

am sakiTxebis mogvarebisTvis<br />

dagveTmo da droze agvelagma<br />

maTi mzakvruli miznebi, patriarqisgan<br />

did winaaRmdegobas<br />

vawydebodi. erTxel kidec damtuqsa<br />

da `wiTeli koWic~ ki<br />

miwoda: rogor gamodixar magaT<br />

winaaRmdego? iq myof mRvdlebs<br />

arwmunebda, rom es seqta saSiSroebas<br />

ar warmoadgenda. dRes<br />

ki yvela vxedavT, ra savalalo<br />

realobis winaSe vdgavarT. xelisuflebidan<br />

gaTamamebuli<br />

ieRovelebi saSinel prozelitizms<br />

ewevian da uamravi marTlmadideblis<br />

suli jojoxeTis-<br />

Tvis ukve ganamzades.<br />

_ mamao, xom ar iciT, ra<br />

xdeba ivaniSvilsa da sapatriarqos<br />

Soris. sapatriarqo amjeradac<br />

xelisuflebis mxares dgas?<br />

_ patriarqs da ivaniSvils<br />

imTaviTve kargi urTierToba<br />

hqondaT, an ratom unda hqonodaT<br />

cudi urTierToba adamian-<br />

Tan, romelic amodena mSeneblobas<br />

afinansebda? savalalo faq-<br />

tia, rom, rogorc aRvniSneT, eklesiis<br />

saqmeebSi uxeSad ereva<br />

qristes moZule xelisufleba,<br />

aqedan gamomdinare, isini Riad<br />

ver dauWeren mxars ivaniSvils.<br />

adamiani, roca sikeTes akeTebs,<br />

amis daunaxaoba umadurobaa da<br />

codvad miiCneva.<br />

minda yvelam icodes, rom amjerad<br />

sinodi orad aris gayofili<br />

_ saakaSvilisa da ivaniSvilis<br />

momxreebad. vinc patiosa-<br />

ni sasuliero pirni arian, mxars<br />

biZina ivaniSvils dauWeren. samwuxarod,<br />

codvis morevSi Cafluli<br />

episkoposebi ki saakaSvilis<br />

qeba-didebaSi arian. maT<br />

aqvT SiSis sindromi, saakaSvilma<br />

codviT dacemulni ar amxilos.<br />

aseve faqtobriv xelisuflebas<br />

mxars dauWeren RvTis<br />

mgmobeli sxvadasxva seqtis warmomadgenlebi,<br />

sodom-gomoriT<br />

dacemuli mamaTmavlebi da lesboselebi.<br />

ai, am znedacemul<br />

adamianebs qomagobs saakaSvili<br />

da maTi imedi aqvs arCevnebSi.<br />

_ auxseniT sazogadoebas:<br />

e.w. Cipiani pasportebi marTla<br />

safrTxea Tu ara? sazRvargare-<br />

Tis bevrma qveyanam uaryo, Cveni<br />

eklesiisgan ratom ar xdeba amis<br />

calsaxa da radikaluri dagmoba?<br />

_ adamianebs cota xanSi iZulebuls<br />

gaxdian aiRon aseTi<br />

pasportebi. blokirebuli adamiani<br />

SeZlebs arsebobas? vinc pasports<br />

ar miiRebs misTvis gausaZlisi<br />

gaxdeba cxovreba, Sen<br />

mogemsaxurebian, an ara, dadgeba<br />

xanmokle diqtatura antiqristesi.<br />

es iqneba xanmokle perio-<br />

di, daiwyeba marTlmadidebelTa<br />

devna, magram, gana RmerTi ar daicavs<br />

Tavis rCeuls, romelnic<br />

dRedaRam mas SehRaRadeben. morwmuneTaTvis<br />

SeWirvebis periodi<br />

Semokldeba. yvela morwmunes<br />

sasurvelia hqondes miwis <strong>patara</strong><br />

nakveTi, <strong>patara</strong> meurneoba,<br />

daTesos, mouaros da Tavi gaitanos.<br />

yovelive es unda gaeTvaliswinebina<br />

eklesias da kategori-<br />

meufe iobi: `Tu isev arsebuli<br />

xelisufleba darCa, me garwmunebT, rom<br />

saqarTvelo aRar iarsebebs da SeiZleba<br />

saqarTvelos saxelic ki Seucvalon~...<br />

uli, radikaluri moTxovna daesva<br />

mTavrobisTvis, rogorc es<br />

sxva qveynebSi gaakeTes.<br />

CvenTan ki sul sxvanairad<br />

aris saqme _ qveynis damaqcevar,<br />

amdeni borotebis Camden xelisufalze,<br />

mcxeTaSi, mociqulTa<br />

xsenebis dRis qadagebaze, patriarqma<br />

mis gverdiT mdgomi prezidentis<br />

misamarTiT ganacxada:<br />

`Cven dRes Zalian bednierni<br />

varT, imiT, rom CvenTan aris<br />

prezidenti~-o. RmerTo, gadmogvxede<br />

da Sen gaarCie samarTali...<br />

_ amas winaT socialur<br />

qselSi duSeTidan momweres _<br />

bodornis RvTismSoblis eklesias<br />

episkoposi vladimeri afarebs<br />

Tavs, romelic aris mruSi,<br />

dedao gaaupatiura da Svilic<br />

hyavTo. aseTebis gankveTa ar<br />

xdeba eklesiidan?<br />

_ Tqveni mikvirs, pirvelad<br />

gesmiT aseTi raRacebi? znedacemul<br />

episkoposebze Zalian bevrs<br />

saubroben, roca isini marxvis<br />

periodSi gogonebTan erTad<br />

restornebSi atareben dros.<br />

erT faqtze SevCerdebi: 2<br />

wlis win patriarqma me da mama

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

vaxtangi dagvibara. moiwvies sinodis<br />

kreba da moxda gansacvifrebeli<br />

ram. me da mama vaxtangi dagvsajes.<br />

me imisTvis _ ratom avaSene<br />

amdeni eklesia, ratom miyvars<br />

saqarTvelo, ratom vicav <strong>didi</strong><br />

sjulis kanons da marTlmadideblobas.<br />

`damsajes~ da `gamosasworeblad~<br />

vani-baRdadis eparqiaSi<br />

gamgzavnes. eparqiaSi, romlis<br />

mRvdeli Sua marxvaSi restoran-<br />

Si `Salaxos~ cekvavda. ver gavige,<br />

maT unda gamovesworebine, Tu<br />

me isini?! TumcaRa, rom wavsuliyavi,<br />

marTlac gamovasworebdi. sapatriarqos<br />

swored aseTi<br />

mRvdlebi awyobs, isini patriarqis<br />

winaSe xmas verasodes amoiReben.<br />

aseTi sasuliero pirebi sakmaod<br />

bevrni arian eklesiis wiaR-<br />

Si.<br />

_ axla eklesiidan yvelaze Tamamad<br />

meufe iobis xma ismis. amaswinaT<br />

kidevac ganacxada: Tu es xelisufleba<br />

kidev qveynis saTaveSi<br />

darCeba, saqarTvelo aRar iarsebebso...<br />

_ es xelisufleba istoriis,<br />

yovelive qarTulis mteria. meufe<br />

iobi amaTi uzneobis Semyure ake-<br />

Tebs aseT daskvnas. diax, saqarTvelos<br />

istoria Tu ar iarsebebs da<br />

qarTveli xalxi Tavisi warsuliT<br />

veRar iamayebs, qarTveli eri gadajiSdeba,<br />

es unda Cvens mtrebs. amaze<br />

laparakobs meufe iobic...<br />

meufe ruis-urbnisis eparqiis<br />

mmarTveli, friad ganswavluli da<br />

upatiosnesi pirovnebaa. mis eparqiaSi<br />

yvela rituals eklesiuri wesebis<br />

mixedviT aRasruleben. meufe<br />

yovelTvis simarTlis mxares dgas,<br />

xSirad amxels usjuloebas, romelic<br />

xdeba dRevandel xelisuflebaSi.<br />

amitomac idga mcxeTaSi qar-<br />

Tveli eris Sekrebaze. swored<br />

amis gamo, xelisuflebis saameblad,<br />

moiwvies saswrafod<br />

sinodis kreba, raTa<br />

`daetuqsaT~ meufe iobi. ver<br />

gaiTvaliswines, rom sinodSi Tu<br />

erSi meufe iobs bevri mxardamWeri<br />

hyavs.<br />

iseTebi, romlebic xelisuflebis<br />

naCuqari prestiJuli manqanebiT<br />

dagrialeben, movuwodeb:<br />

droa, CamoqveiTdiT `jipebidan~ da<br />

SeWirvebuli xalxis bedi gaiziareT,<br />

rameTu yoveli Cvengani mar-<br />

Talni unda viyvneT sakuTari sindisis<br />

winaSe, raTa Cveni nasroli<br />

qva Cvenve ar dagvibrundes.<br />

_ mamao basil, xSirad gaismis,<br />

unda Catardes ruis-urbnisis<br />

msgavsi saeklesio krebao. Tqveni<br />

azriT, SesaZlebelia Tu ara es da<br />

vin unda ganaxorcielos igi?<br />

_ dRes mTeli saqarTvelo<br />

elodeba, rodis Catardeba ruisurbnisis<br />

msgavsi kreba. saerTod,<br />

msoflio saeklesio krebebs yovelTvis<br />

morwmune mefeebi da dedoflebi<br />

iwvevdnen. saqarTvelos<br />

pirveli prezidenti zviad gamsaxurdia<br />

xelisuflebaSi mosvlis<br />

dRidanve emzadeboda saeklesio<br />

krebis Casatareblad, raTa ganwmendiliyo<br />

eklesia uRirsi, Semarcxveneli<br />

samRvdeloebisagan. swored<br />

es ar apaties mas da sapatriarqo<br />

opoziciaSi Caudga. dRes<br />

ismis kiTxva, Catardeba es kreba?<br />

pasuxi aseTia _ saakaSvilisa da<br />

ilia II-is TanamoRvaweobis dros<br />

es kreba ar Catardeba, radgan<br />

krebaze unda ganikveTos samRvdelo<br />

dasis umravlesoba ise, rogorc<br />

es moxda daviT aRmaSeneblis<br />

dros. aqedan gamomdinare,<br />

samRvdeloebas saerTod<br />

ar awyobs krebis Catareba.<br />

_ mamao, bevrs ainteresebs, ra<br />

azris brZandebiT biZina ivaniSvilze,<br />

rogorc sazogadoebis garkveuli<br />

da sakmaod <strong>didi</strong> nawilis liderze,<br />

uWerT mas mxars?<br />

_ xSirad mekiTxebian, ra azrisa<br />

var ivaniSvilTan mimarTebaSi.<br />

waval Tu ara mitingebze.<br />

me yovelTvis maTTan var, vinc<br />

SeWirvebul moZmeebTan dgas, maT<br />

Wir-varams iziarebs, exmareba,<br />

gulTan miaqvs gaRatakebuli, qu-<br />

CaSi lukma-puris saSovnelad gamosuli<br />

xalxis bedi. mivesalmebi<br />

da vlocav qvelmoqmedebas, romelsac<br />

eris sakeTildReod gaswevs,<br />

miTumetes, Tu yovelgvari<br />

keTili saqme marTlmadidebluri<br />

suliT iqneba Sezavebuli. rac Seexeba<br />

imas, vivli Tu ara saxalxo<br />

Sekrebebze, mogaxsenebT, sapyrobileSi<br />

yofnis dros bevrjer scades<br />

Cemi mowamvla, fizikuri ganadgureba,<br />

magram RvTis wyalobiT,<br />

TqvenTan var. cixidan friad<br />

dauZlurebuli gamovedi, dResac<br />

vmkurnalob. kidev gimeorebT, sawolzec<br />

rom viyo mijaWvuli, suliT<br />

da <strong>guli</strong>T saqarTvelos erTgul<br />

jariskacad miguleT. me vidgebi<br />

maTTan, vinc xelisuflebaSi<br />

ara fulis mosaxveWad, aramed<br />

dasaxmareblad da gaWirvebuli<br />

xalxis pirobebis gasaumjobeseblad<br />

mova.<br />

vwuxvar, roca vuyureb, rogor<br />

esvrian qvebs nacionalebis damqa-<br />

Sebi biZina ivaniSvilis momxreebs.<br />

minda qarTvel xalxs Sevaxseno,<br />

rom maTi maswavlebeli da ideologi<br />

giga bokeria qvebis srola-<br />

Si metad gawvrTnilia. ramdenime<br />

wlis win igi ieRovelTa seqtis<br />

warmomadgenlebis Tavgamodebuli<br />

dacvisas me da Cems mrevls qvebi<br />

dagviSines. es kadrebi aris internetsivrceSi<br />

da yvelas SeuZlia<br />

ixilos. ase, rom es maTi Cveulebrivi<br />

xelweraa, raSic me adreve<br />

davrwmundi da sakuTar Tavzec gamovcade,<br />

amitom ukeTess arafers<br />

moveli maTgan...<br />

RmerTma daglocoT.<br />

iranda<br />

kalandaZe<br />

wlevandel welsac Catarda<br />

morigi literaturuli<br />

konkursi `saba~. ramdenad<br />

amarTlebs wardgenili da gamarjvebuli<br />

nawarmoebebi sazogadoebis<br />

molodins da<br />

sulxan-ssabas saxelobis premiis<br />

saxels _ es ukve <strong>didi</strong><br />

xnis gansja-gganxilvis sakiTxia.<br />

ra da vin imarjvebs:<br />

novacia, ideologia Tu namdvili<br />

mwerloba? am sakiTxebze<br />

gvesaubreba poeti baRaTer<br />

arabuli<br />

_ amgvari konkursebi, rogoricaa<br />

`saba~, `gala~ da<br />

sxvebi, TavisTavad Zalian kargia,<br />

magram dauSvebelia klanuri,<br />

garkveuli jgufebis interesebis<br />

gamomxatveli konkursebi.<br />

xSirad erTi da igive<br />

xalxi marTavs da Rebulobs<br />

monawileobs. vTqvaT,<br />

wels romeliRac mweralma miiRo<br />

premia da misi megobari<br />

aris Jiuris wevri, Semdeg<br />

wels is, vinc miiRo premia,<br />

aris JiuriSi da romelic<br />

SarSan JiuriSi iyo Rebulobs<br />

premias da a.S.<br />

_ e.i. erTmaneTs gadascemen<br />

premiebs?<br />

_ ar davasaxeleb gvarebs.<br />

erTi da igive saxeebi trialebs<br />

am konkursebze, 10 wlis<br />

ganmavlobaSi zogierTs 5-jer<br />

aqvs miRebuli premia, zogs ki<br />

_ 4-jer da a.S. es Zalian cudi<br />

tendenciaa. obieqturad<br />

unda Catardes yvelaferi. JiuriSi<br />

unda iyos xalxi, romlebic<br />

gaTviTcnobierebulni<br />

arian qarTul literaturaSi.<br />

minda mivmarTo damaarseblebs,<br />

xelmZRvanelebs, es iqneba Cemi<br />

megobruli Txovnac da kolegialuric<br />

_ kontroli gauwion<br />

Jiuris Semadgenlobas, iq<br />

mimdinare movlenebs.<br />

_ mamuka xazaraZe aris am<br />

literaturuli konkursis<br />

damfinansebeli da TavisTavad<br />

xdeba qarTuli mwerlobis<br />

promouteri, Tanamedrove<br />

eniT rom vTqvaT. ar interesdeba,<br />

ras xmardeba misi Tanxebi<br />

da rogoria rezultati?<br />

_ mamuka xazaraZe aris Zalian<br />

kargi adamiani, morwmune,<br />

hyavs moZRvari da mis mier dafinansebul<br />

konkursSi imarjvebs<br />

adamiani _ giorgi maisuraZe,<br />

romelic eklesiaze,<br />

sarwmunoebaze, religiaze aqveynebs<br />

amazrzen teqstebs, magaliTad<br />

moviyvan fragmentebs<br />

misi werilidan: `marTlmadidebloba,rogorc<br />

qarTveli liberalebis<br />

ukanaskneli<br />

TavSesafari~. gTavazobT<br />

erT-erT fragments:<br />

`saqarTvelos<br />

marTlmadidebel eklesias,<br />

romelic dRes<br />

saqarTveloSi yvelaze<br />

maRali avtoritetis<br />

mqone organizaciaa,<br />

ritualebisa da `saswaulebis~<br />

garda sxva<br />

aranairi `sulierebis~<br />

SeTavazeba ar SeuZlia<br />

adamianisTvis da Tavadaa<br />

yovelgvari sulierebisa<br />

da sulieri<br />

kulturis mTavari moZule,<br />

romelic yvelgan da yvelaferSi,<br />

sadac misi locva-kur-<br />

Txevis beWedi araa dasmuli,<br />

eSmakeulebs xedavs. ufro metic,<br />

saqarTvelos marTlmadidebeli<br />

eklesia imdenad da-<br />

Sorda yovelgvar sulierebas,<br />

imdenad moswyda Tavad marTlmadideblur<br />

Teologiur<br />

sawyisebs, rom masze, rogorc<br />

sulierebis gamomxatvel instituciaze,<br />

seriozuli saubaric<br />

ki `Znelia~. mere ambobs:<br />

`aranairi gansakuTrebuli Teoriuli<br />

codna da analitikuri<br />

unarebi araa imisTvis sa-<br />

Wiro, rom eklesiidan momavali<br />

agresia, Seuwynarebloba,<br />

Sua saukuneebisdroindeli<br />

seqsizmi da qalTmoZuleoba,<br />

adamianebis fsiqologiuri manipulacia<br />

da wamqezebloba<br />

davafiqsiroT da mas kerZo<br />

SemTxvevebis kvalifikacia ar<br />

mivceT. Tu gaviTvaliswinebT,<br />

rom erovnuli Tu sarwmunoebrivi<br />

SuRlis gaRviveba,<br />

umetes SemTxvevaSi, marTlmadidebeli<br />

eklesiis<br />

umaRlesi organos _<br />

wminda sinodis wevrebisgan<br />

_ episkoposebisa da<br />

mitropolitebisgan modis,<br />

absurduli unda<br />

iyos imis mtkiceba,<br />

rom es gamonaklisebia~.<br />

anu igi <strong>guli</strong>sxmobs,<br />

rom evronuli<br />

SuRlis gaRviveba eklesiidan<br />

modis. piriqiT,<br />

eklesia zrunavs<br />

imaze, rom ar iyos<br />

SuRli da dapirispireba<br />

sazogadoebaSi. am<br />

`mweralma~ miiRo sabas<br />

premia da premiis damaarsebelia<br />

xazaraZe, romelic<br />

sapatriarqos udgas<br />

gverdiT. me vfiqrob,<br />

rom mamuka xazaraZem<br />

es ar icis.<br />

_ cota ucnauria, rom<br />

damfinansebeli saqmis kursSi<br />

araa.<br />

_ xazaraZem es rom icodes,<br />

ar dauSvebda. me vici,<br />

rom sapatriarqoSi Catarda<br />

preskonferencia am masalis<br />

Taobaze. aseve maisuraZe nawarmoebSi<br />

`Caketili sazogadoeba<br />

da misi darajebi~ romelSic<br />

premia miiRo, Caketil<br />

sazogadoebaSi <strong>guli</strong>sxmobs<br />

imaT, vinc tradiciebs icavs,<br />

zneobriv normebze da erovnu-<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

literaturuli premia `saba~<br />

saZmakacoSi Camosarigebel<br />

premiad ar unda iqces...<br />

lobaze laparakobs. cisferebis<br />

zeims, erTsqesianebis qorwils<br />

Tavisufleba unda mieni-<br />

Wos da propaganda gaewios.<br />

misi azriT, ilia WavWavaZes<br />

awuxebda Suasaukunebrivi bneleTis<br />

azrebi, anu eris gadarCenaze<br />

zrunva bneleTis<br />

azria. patriotizmi provincializmis<br />

gamovlineba. cotne<br />

dadiani `cotne daTvianidan~<br />

modis, `cotnaoba~ seqsualuri<br />

rituali yofila, Taflis<br />

wasma sxeulze, mere lokva da<br />

ase Semdeg. `sabas~ premiaze<br />

wardgenili iyo ramdenime<br />

Rirseuli pirovnebis naSromi,<br />

maT uars eubnebian, imaT ki,<br />

visac moraluri da seqsualuri<br />

gadaxrebi aqvT, gzas uxsnian.<br />

aseve monawileobda vinme<br />

daTo qardava nawarmoebiT,<br />

romlis saTauria `tualetSi<br />

sakiTxavi wigni~(?!).<br />

SevardnaZis periodSic ki<br />

ar xdeboda aseTi ram. ganaTlebis<br />

ministris moadgile<br />

iyo vinme lekveiSvili, romelmac<br />

gamoaqveyna leqsebis<br />

krebuli saTauriT _ `mTvare,<br />

makoce trakze~. maSinve gaagdebines<br />

ministr kartozias.<br />

axla ki amgvar teqstebs ufro<br />

eZleva upiratesoba, vidre<br />

wminda literaturul da akademiur<br />

nawarmoebebs. Cemi<br />

Txovna iqneba, es yvelaferi<br />

gaiTvaliswinon da amgvari<br />

anomaluri teqstebi ar moxvdes<br />

konkursSi.<br />

yvelaferi keTdeba imisTvis,<br />

rom qristianuli citadeli<br />

moangrion. es xelisuflebis<br />

neba-survilicaa, raTa eklesias<br />

avtoriteti Seulaxon.<br />

Cven ver davemsgavsebiT<br />

evropasa da amerikas. maT<br />

TavianTi istoria aqvT.<br />

aseve unda aRiniSnos,<br />

rom evropa ubrundeba<br />

Tavis tradiciebs. moZraoba<br />

daiwyo safrangeTSi,<br />

holandiaSi,<br />

italiaSi nacionaluri<br />

interesebis<br />

dacvisaTvis. es<br />

aucileblobam moitana;<br />

msoflioSi<br />

arsebobs cisferebis<br />

uzarmazari gaerTianebebi,sabWoebi<br />

da yvelafer amas<br />

uweven mfarvelobas.<br />

uzarmazari fuli<br />

ideba. Cvens xelisuflebaSic<br />

araerTia am<br />

tendenciis mqone.<br />

xelSewyobis gareSe<br />

ar moxdeboda araferi.<br />

rati amaRlobeli<br />

aris am konkursis damaarsebeli<br />

da me minda piradad vTxovo<br />

mas, ufro principulad miudges<br />

am yvelafers da iyos<br />

CarTuli Jiuris muSaobaSi.<br />

Jiuris Sedgenis drosac meti<br />

principuloba gamoiCinos. iq<br />

unda iyvnen kritikosebi,<br />

mwerlebi, romlebic kargad<br />

icnoben qarTul mwerlobas,<br />

tendenciebs da ara fsiqologebi<br />

da sxva profesiis warmomadgenlebi.<br />

Tamuna qadagiZe<br />

17

18 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

uxsovari droidan, mecnierebTan<br />

erTad Cveulebrivi adamianebic<br />

gaocebaSi mohyavda<br />

cocxali sxeulisTvis damaxasiaTebel<br />

Tvisebebs, `gaenaTebina~<br />

Tmas sibneleSi, naperwklebi<br />

gaeyara tansacmlis gaxdisas.<br />

mogvianebiT, sayofacxovrebo<br />

pirobebSi eleqtronis far-<br />

Tod gamoyenebam adamianis, rogorc<br />

biologiuri denis matareblis<br />

Sesaxeb Sexedulebebi<br />

kidev ufro gaamyara.<br />

erTni amas raRac `sasicocxlo<br />

Zalas~ miawerdnen, meoreni<br />

ambobdnen, rom es TvaliT<br />

uxilavi im `eTeruli<br />

sxeulis~ damsaxurebaa, romelic<br />

yoveli cocxali arsebis<br />

sxeulSi binadrobda da swored<br />

es ganarCevda cocxals<br />

aracocxalisgan.<br />

mecnierebaSi adamianis irgvliv<br />

arsebuli biovelis Sesaxeb<br />

yvelaze realuri warmodgenebi<br />

amerikeli mkvlevris<br />

albert sent-derdis meSveobiT<br />

gaCnda, romelmac ganacxada:<br />

`adamiani _ Cveulebrivi<br />

gamtaria, romelSic sasicocxlo<br />

funqciebis ganxorcielebis<br />

paralelurad, rogorc sadenebSi,<br />

mudmivad gaedineba<br />

eleqtruli deni~.<br />

sent-derdis hipoTezidan<br />

ramdenime wlis Semdeg, aseve<br />

amerikelma mecnierebma fizikuri<br />

xelsawyos saSualebiT SeZles<br />

adamianis irgvliv arsebuli<br />

eleqtruli velis skanireba<br />

da gaocebuli darCnen imiT,<br />

rom adamianis bioveli TiTqmis<br />

yvela im gamosxivebas Seicavda,<br />

rac dedamiwaze arsebobda;<br />

nanomedicina miznad isaxavs<br />

adamianis sxeulSi, yvelaze<br />

xSirad ki sisxlSi, garkveuli<br />

ineqciebis meSveobiT Seiyvanos<br />

specialuri mowyobiloba _<br />

mikroskopuli robotebi, romlebic<br />

gamoiyeneba rogorc sadiagnostiko,<br />

ise samkurnalo<br />

miznebisTvis.<br />

ras warmoadgens<br />

nanoroboti?<br />

tipuri samedicino nanomowyobiloba<br />

mikronuli zomis<br />

robotia, romelic awyobilia<br />

nanonawilebisgan. nanorobotis<br />

nawilebis zomebi erTidan 100<br />

nm-mde meryeobs. meti sicxadis-<br />

Tvis getyviT, 1nm = 10 -9 m-s,<br />

Tavad robotis zoma ki iqneba<br />

0,5-3 mkm (1mkm = 10 -6 m-s).<br />

samedicino nanorobotebis<br />

ZiriTadi saSeni masala, sakmaod<br />

<strong>didi</strong> simtkicis gamo, almasis<br />

an almasismsgavsi formis<br />

naxSirbadia. nanometriul reduqtorebsa<br />

da sxva komponentebSi<br />

specialuri miznebisTvis<br />

gamoiyeneba wyalbadi, gogirdi,<br />

Jangbadi, azoti da<br />

ftori.<br />

nanorobots eqneba ori sivrce<br />

_ SigniTa da gareTa. gareTa<br />

sivrce adamianis organizmSi<br />

arsebul qimiur nivTierebaTa<br />

zemoqmedebis winaSe daucveli<br />

aRmoCndeba, samagierod,<br />

SigniTa sivrce imdenad<br />

daculi iqneba, rom masSi ver<br />

SeaRwevs veraferi, garda im<br />

biologiuri siTxeebisa, ro-<br />

adamianis bioveli<br />

oRond, erTi gansxvavebiT _<br />

biovelSi Semaval gamosxiveba-<br />

Ta talRis sigrZe gacilebiT<br />

naklebia, iseve rogorc minimaluria<br />

maTi moqmedebis speqtri<br />

da Zala.<br />

biovelis skanirebis Semdeg,<br />

bunebrivia, imis dadgena gaxda<br />

saWiro, Tu ra aqcevda adamians<br />

biologiur gamtarad da ra materiebi<br />

warmoadgenda sxeulis<br />

irgvliv eleqtruli velis<br />

wyaros.<br />

bioeleqtrodebi<br />

wyali<br />

biovelis wyaro sakuTriv<br />

adamianis organizmSi arsebuli<br />

organuli da araorganuli<br />

nivTierebebi aRmoCnda.<br />

yovel maTgans gaaCnia saku-<br />

Tari eleqtruli muxti da<br />

swored am muxtebs Soris<br />

melTa damuSaveba da analizic<br />

nanorobotis mizans warmoadgens.<br />

Strixebi<br />

nanorobotis<br />

portretisTvis<br />

_ adamiani, romelsac nanorobotebs<br />

Seuyvanen, subieqturad<br />

verafers SeigrZnobs;<br />

_ funqciaamowuruli<br />

nanorobotebi adamians<br />

aranair zians ar miayeneben;<br />

_ nanorobotebs ar<br />

eqnebaT organizmSi damoukidebladgamravlebis<br />

unari;<br />

_ marTvis mizniT<br />

organizmSi Seyvanil nanorobotebTan<br />

mudmivad<br />

iqneba kavSiri;<br />

_ sxvadasxva tipis<br />

ujredebs ujredis zedapirze<br />

arsebuli yoveli<br />

maTganisTvis damaxasiaTebeli<br />

antigenuri<br />

struqturis mixedviT<br />

amoicnoben;<br />

nanorobotebis<br />

daniSnulebas<br />

warmoadgens:<br />

_ organizmis gawmenda virusuli<br />

an baqteriuli infeqciisgan;<br />

_ samkurnalo saSualebis<br />

zustad mitana im adgilamde,<br />

sadac es yvelaze metad saWiroa;<br />

sxvaoba warmoqmnis im eleqtrul<br />

potencials, romelic sabolood<br />

sxeulis irgvliv<br />

eleqtruli velis saxiT iyris<br />

Tavs.<br />

biovelis yvelaze mZlavri<br />

da Zlieri mommaragebeli, saukeTeso<br />

gamtari wyali aRmoCnda.<br />

rogorc gairkva, Cveni biovelis<br />

70-80 procents swored<br />

es siTxe ganapirobebs.<br />

wylis molekuluri agebuleba,<br />

albaT, yvelas axsovs _<br />

es wyalbadis ori da Jangbadis<br />

erTi atomia, wyalbadis atomebi<br />

ki, Tavis mxriv, saukeTeso<br />

protonebia, romlebic dieleqtruli<br />

sxvaobis wyalobiT<br />

wyals SesaniSnav gamtarad aqcevs.<br />

cila<br />

wylis Semdeg eleqtruli<br />

velis SeqmnaSi <strong>didi</strong> roli<br />

_ organizmis jangbadiT<br />

momaragebis gaumjobeseba da<br />

Sesabamisad, nivTierebaTa<br />

cvlis gaaqtiureba-mowesrigeba.<br />

moqmedebis meqanizmi<br />

tipuri erTjeradi Terapevtuli<br />

doza nanorobotebisa,<br />

organizmSi 1-dan 10-trilionamde<br />

nanorobotis Seyvanas<br />

<strong>guli</strong>sxmobs. mozrdili adamianis<br />

sxeulis moculoba 100<br />

aTasi sm3-ia, sisxlis moculoba<br />

5400 sm3-s Seadgens, amitom<br />

masSi 3 sm3 moculobis<br />

nanorobotebis dozis damatebas<br />

praqtikulad organizmi<br />

ver SeigrZnobs, miT ufro,<br />

rom isini moiqcevian ise, ro-<br />

ekisreba organul cilebs,<br />

Tumca, wyalTan SedarebiT, cilebs<br />

araerTgvarovani da aramudmivi<br />

denis warmomqmneli<br />

unari gaaCnia, maTi gamtaroba<br />

damokidebulia imaze, Tu ramdenad<br />

aris isini wyliT gajerebuli<br />

da ramdeni wyalia im<br />

garemoSi, sadac maT uSualod<br />

funqcionireba uwevs. rac naklebia<br />

wyali, miT naklebia cilebis<br />

ionuri gamtaroba.<br />

nukleinis mJavebi<br />

nukleinis mJavebi: dnm da<br />

rnm aseve <strong>didi</strong> rols TamaSobs<br />

cocxali organizmis velis<br />

warmoqmnaSi. miuxedavad maTi<br />

struqturisa, isini <strong>didi</strong> raodenobiT<br />

wyals ar Seicavs, mainc<br />

maRali eleqtrofizikuri<br />

Tviseba aqvs, rasac maT aminom-<br />

Javebi sZens.<br />

mikro da<br />

makroelementebi<br />

mogexsenebaT, adamianis organizmSi<br />

sakmaod bevri mikro<br />

da makroelementia, romelTac<br />

aseve gaaCnia sakuTari eleqtruli<br />

muxti, zogs _ dadebiTi,<br />

zogsac _ uaryofiTi da TavianTi<br />

mokrZalebuli wvlili<br />

maTac SeaqvT biovelis warmoqmnis<br />

saerTo saqmeSi.<br />

garegani faqtorebi<br />

Tanamedrove adamians sakmaod<br />

mZlavri teqnogenuri gamosxivebis<br />

qveS uwevs arsebo-<br />

nanorobotebi _ momavlis medicina<br />

gorc maT specialuri mimRebi<br />

mowyobilobis meSveobiT `ubr-<br />

Zaneben~.<br />

organizmSi moxvedris Semdeg<br />

nanorobotebi iwyeben mogzaurobas,<br />

zogierTni sisxlis<br />

nakadis meSveobiT, zogierTni<br />

binas bronqebSi ideben, zogierTni<br />

ki qsovilebSi dabuddebian.<br />

imisda mixedviT, Tu<br />

organizmSi sad apirebs<br />

dasaxlebas, gansxvavebuli<br />

iqneba maTi zomac; magaliTad,<br />

yvelaze <strong>didi</strong><br />

zomisani sisxlis nanorobotebi<br />

iqnebian, SedarebiT<br />

patarebi _ qsovilebSi<br />

mosaxleni, kidev<br />

ufro naklebi iqneba<br />

bronqebSi mobinadreTa<br />

zoma.<br />

nanorobots, rogorc<br />

nebismier mowyobilobas,<br />

gadasaadgileblad da funqcionirebisTvisaucileblad<br />

esaWiroeba energia.<br />

mecnierebma, bunebrivia,<br />

amazec izrunes _<br />

mowyobiloba muSaobisTvis<br />

saWiro energias Tavad<br />

organizmSi, Jangbadisa da<br />

glukozis metabolizmis dros<br />

mimdinare meqanoqimiuri reaqciebis<br />

saSualebiT miiRebs.<br />

nanoroboti da<br />

imunuri sistema<br />

mogexsenebaT, imunuri sistema<br />

maleve amoicnobs organizmSi<br />

moxvedril nebismier<br />

ucxo sxeuls; organizmidan<br />

ba. civilizebuli samyaros<br />

yvela wertili eleqtromagnituri<br />

velis areSia moqceuli,<br />

maT Soris _ Cveni sxeulic.<br />

igi mudmivad iRebs da STanTqavs<br />

am velis garkveul nawilebs<br />

specialuri bioenergetikuli<br />

meridianebis saSualebiT,<br />

romlis pirveli rgolic Cveni<br />

kania.<br />

swored sxeulis safarvelis<br />

gziT aRwevs organizmSi<br />

garemos eleqtromagnituri<br />

velis fragmentebi, romlebic<br />

organizmSi sxvadasxva adgilas<br />

idebs binas da sxvadasxvanairadve<br />

realizdeba.<br />

dRes mecnierebis mTavari<br />

amocanaa sabolood gaSifron<br />

biovelis Semadgenloba da gansazRvron<br />

is mudmivi parametrebi,<br />

romlebic janmrTel organizms<br />

daavadebulisgan ganasxvavebs.<br />

erTaderTi, rac ukve dasabuTebulia,<br />

is aris, rom janmrTeli<br />

adamianis bioveli neitraluria<br />

_ organizmSi agzneba-Sekavebis<br />

procesTa dabalansebiT,<br />

gawonasworebulia uaryofiT<br />

da dadebiT muxtebs Soris<br />

Tanafardobac, xolo roca<br />

veli raime muxts iZens, es<br />

ukve imis maniSnebelia, rom agzneba-Sekavebis<br />

procesTa Soris<br />

Tanafardoba dairRva da<br />

romeliRac adgilas paTologiuri<br />

procesi iwyebs ganviTarebas.<br />

maTi gandevnisa da gauvnebelyofis<br />

mizniT, masze ieriSi miaqvs.<br />

nanorobotebi Cveulebrivi<br />

ucxo sxeulebia, romelTac<br />

imunuri sistema swrafadve aRmoaCens,<br />

magram radgan gluvi<br />

almazoiduri struqturis nanorobotebi<br />

sakmaod mcired<br />

gamoxatul leikocitur aqtivobas<br />

amJRavnebs da almasis<br />

Zlieri zedapiruli energiis<br />

wyalobiT maTi garsi qimiurad<br />

absoluturad inertulia, imunuri<br />

sistemis mxridan maTze<br />

agresia naklebia da Sesabamisad,<br />

imunuri sistemac aRar<br />

sdevnis maT.<br />

organizmidan<br />

gamoyofa<br />

nanomowyobilobaTa erT nawils<br />

unari Seswevs, damoukideblad<br />

gamoidevnos organizmidan<br />

adamianis bunebrivi gamomyofi<br />

arxebis meSveobiT, meore<br />

nawili ki ise iqneba konstruirebuli,<br />

rom maT organizmidan<br />

medpersonali specialuri<br />

nanogamomyvani aparatis<br />

saSualebiT gamodevnis.<br />

ra sageblobas<br />

moitans nanomedicina<br />

kacobriobas?<br />

nanomedicinis mTavar daniSnulebaa<br />

me-20 saukunis yvelaze<br />

farTod gavrcelebul daavadebaTa<br />

sruli gankurneba, misi<br />

mizania tkivilis damarcxeba,<br />

adamianis sicocxlis asakisa<br />

da misi gonebrivi SesaZleblobebis<br />

gazrda.<br />

gverdi moamzada<br />

zviad RonRaZe

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

msoflio presis mixedviT<br />

bolo saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi<br />

filosofosebi, istorikosebi,<br />

sociologebi, politologebi,<br />

mwerlebi... svamen erTsa da<br />

imave kiTxvebs: ra qveyanaa ruse-<br />

Ti, romelsac amodena teritoria<br />

da amdeni simdidre gaaCnia<br />

da mainc Raribia da ratom aris<br />

mezobeli qveynebisTvis aseTi<br />

saSiSi da arastabilurobis<br />

wyaro...<br />

Tavisi arsebobis manZilze,<br />

ruseTma aTeulobiT qveyana daipyro<br />

da uamravi erisa da eTnosis<br />

iseTi asimilacia moaxdina,<br />

rom bevri maTgani ukve gada-<br />

Senda da gaqra _ CrdiloeTkavkasieli<br />

da kavkasieli eTnosebiT<br />

dawyebuli da iseTi qveynebiTa<br />

da saxelmwifoebiT damTavrebuli,<br />

rogorebicaa fineTi,<br />

poloneTi, baltiispireTis<br />

qveynebi, moldova prutis aRmosavleTiT...<br />

ukve yvelam icis _<br />

rusebs ufro metad ainteresebT<br />

is, ra xdeba maT garSemo,<br />

vidre saxlSi, isini TavianT<br />

niWsa da energias ar iyeneben<br />

saimisod, rom ukeT da civilizebulad<br />

icxovron, qveyana gaamdidron.<br />

rusebi saukuneebia,<br />

sxva qveynebis okupaciis, sxva<br />

xalxebis asimilaciis ideiT<br />

arian Sepyrobili, uyvarT maTTvis<br />

Wkuis swavleba, Tu rogor<br />

icxovron...<br />

axla, roca kacobrioba cdilobs,<br />

arsebobisa da Tanaarsebobis<br />

sxva formulebi gamoiyenos,<br />

ruseTi mezoblebTan urTierTobaSi<br />

Tavis imperiul Cvevebs<br />

ver Tmobs. Tavis yofil<br />

koloniebs (yofil sabWoTa<br />

respublikebs) isev Tavis gav-<br />

`dasavleTs surs, demokratiis Tavisi<br />

modeli mTel msoflioSi gaavrcelos.<br />

arada, arcTu Soreuli warsulis<br />

magaliTebi cxadyofs: tradiciebis gauTvaliswineblad<br />

es SeuZlebelia.<br />

2001 wels amerikis SeerTebulma<br />

Statebma da misma mokavSireebma daasrules<br />

Talibebis mmarTveloba avRaneT-<br />

Si. dasavleTis daxmarebiT, qveyanam miiRo<br />

demokratiuli konstitucia da<br />

masTan erTad _ xalxis mier yovel 5<br />

weliwadSi arCeuli prezidenti da orpalatiani<br />

parlamenti, romelSi qalebisTvis<br />

kvota daaweses. 2009 wels,<br />

roca prezidenti hamid karzai gadair-<br />

Cies, euTos damkvirveblebi xmis micemisas<br />

`namdvil sayovelTao falsifikaciaze~<br />

alaparakdnen. axlaxan, tokioSi<br />

avRaneTis problematikisadmi miZRvnili<br />

lenis sferod miiCnevs da Zveli<br />

imperiuli meTodebiT urTierTobs.<br />

yofili Zmuri resublikebis<br />

politikaze gavlenis<br />

mosaxdenad, am qveynebSi mcxovreb<br />

eTnikur rusebsa da rusulenovan<br />

eTnikur umciresobebs<br />

Tavis mTavar sayrdenad iyenebs.<br />

faqtobrivad, es mosaxleoba<br />

moskovis mexuTe kolonis rols<br />

asrulebs da misi meSveobiT<br />

ruseTi sruliad daufaravad da<br />

ubodiSod ereva yofili koloniebis<br />

cxovrebaSi. axlaxan ruseTma<br />

am mxriv kidev erTxel<br />

gamoiCina Tavi.<br />

ruseTis prezidenti ruse-<br />

Tis federaciis elCebsa da<br />

ucxoeTSi Tavis mudmiv warmomadgenlebs<br />

Sexvda. mTavari gzavnili,<br />

romelic maT gadaecaT,<br />

exeboda ruseTis axlandeli<br />

sazRvrebis miRma mcxovrebi `moqalaqeebisa<br />

da Tanamemamuleebis~<br />

uflebebis dacvas. putinis<br />

TqmiT, diplomatiuri da sakonsulo<br />

samsaxurebi valdebuli<br />

arian, daicvan isini egreT wodebuli<br />

non-stopis reJimiT, dauyovnebliv<br />

upasuxon maT nebismier<br />

wuxils, daexmaron da mxari<br />

dauWiron. misive gancxade-<br />

biT, saxelmwifos mimarT pativiscema<br />

damokidebulia imaze, Tu<br />

rogor eqceva igi Tavis moqalaqeebs,<br />

romlebic maTTvis ucxo<br />

garemoSi rTul da gauTvaliswinebel<br />

viTarebaSi aRmoCndnen.<br />

ruseTis prezidentis azriT,<br />

saxelmwifom unda gaaanalizos,<br />

axleburad da safuZvlianad gaiazros<br />

im TanamemamuleTa roli,<br />

romlebic ucxoeTSi mudmivad<br />

cxovroben. man wamoayena<br />

axali idea: sabWoTa kavSiris<br />

yofil moqalaqeebs ufleba mieceT,<br />

miiRon ruseTis moqalaqeoba:<br />

`aucileblobad mimaCnia,<br />

kvlav davubrundeT ruseTis moqalaqeobis<br />

miniWebis gaiolebul<br />

formas maTTvis, vinc sab-<br />

WoTa kavSiris moqalaqe iyo an<br />

sabWoTa kavSirSi da Tundac<br />

ruseTis imperiaSi dabadebulis<br />

pirdapiri STamomavalia~.<br />

ruseTis moqalaqeobis SeRavaTianad<br />

miniWeba, miT umetes<br />

yofil sabWoTa kavSirSi mcxovrebi<br />

eTnikuri rusebisTvis,<br />

mtruli nabijia da maTTvisve<br />

mavne qmedebaa. praqtikulad yvela<br />

yofil sabWoTa respublika-<br />

Si arsebobs im erovnul (rusebs<br />

v<strong>guli</strong>sxmobT) umciresoba-<br />

Ta problemebi, romlebsac ar<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

okupaciisa da xalxebis asimilaciis<br />

ideiT Sepyrobili ruseTi<br />

yofil sabWoTa kavSiris respublikebSi mcxovrebi<br />

rusi eTnikuri umciresoba _ moskovis mexuTe kolona<br />

avRaneTidan egviptemde:<br />

demokratiis<br />

eqsportis sirTuleebi<br />

konferenciis dRis wesrigSi<br />

mTavari sakiTxi korufcia<br />

iyo. demokratiuli konstitucia<br />

aseT dros uZluria,<br />

aRniSnavs mimomxilveli.<br />

`2011 wlis gazafxulze,<br />

hosni mubaraqis Camogdebis<br />

Semdeg, egviptem gardamavali<br />

periodis konstitucia mii-<br />

Ro... konstituciiT gaTvaliswinebul<br />

saparlamento<br />

arCevnebze islamistebma gaimarjves.<br />

sakonstitucio sasamarTlom<br />

Zveli gvardiis,<br />

samxedro sabWos mxardaWeriT,<br />

parlamenti daiTxova.<br />

prezidentma Tavisi dekretiT<br />

isev moiwvia parlamenti,<br />

sakonstitucio sasamar-<br />

Tlom ki sxdomis legitimuroba ar<br />

cno. ZalauflebisTvis brZola religiuri<br />

da samxedro elitis warmomadgenlebs<br />

Soris axal saxelmwifo institutebSic<br />

gagrZelda~, _ wers gamocema.<br />

`evropa da amerikis SeerTebuli<br />

Statebi formalurad demokratiul<br />

qveynebSi demokratiuli kulturis naklebobas<br />

viTom ganicdian, viTom ar esmiT<br />

da aRSfoTebas gamoxataven. arada,<br />

ar iTvaliswineben erT martiv WeSmaritebas<br />

_ yvelas erT Targze ver gamoWri,<br />

tradiciebis gauTvaliswineblad<br />

`standartul demokratias~ iolad ver<br />

daamkvidreb. tradiciebisa da axali meqanizmebis<br />

Serwymaa aucilebeli.<br />

Tagesspiegel<br />

bolodroindeli kvlevebiT, romlebic<br />

inteleqtis koeficientis gansazRvris<br />

meTodikas efuZneba, dadginda _<br />

qalebma mamakacebs gauswres, wers gaze-<br />

Ti La Repubblica.<br />

`qalebi mamakacebze ufro Wkvianebi<br />

arian. adami da evasgan moyolebuli, SesaZloa,<br />

yovelTvis ase iyo, magram warsulSi<br />

maT ar eZleodaT TavianTi potencialis<br />

gamovlena. arc is aris gamoricxuli,<br />

qalebi aseTebi bolo xans<br />

gaxdnen _ im stresis gamo, rac samuSaos<br />

da ojaxis, karierisa da saxlis<br />

saqmeebis SeTavsebis aucileblobiT<br />

aris gamowveuli.<br />

asea Tu ise, qalebs<br />

gonebrivi ganviTarebis koeficientis<br />

testebis maCveneblebi<br />

saukeTeso aqvT~, _<br />

wers gamocema.<br />

`Tanamedrove cxovrebis<br />

gavlena axlaRa avlens<br />

Tavs qalis tvinze~, _ amtkicebs<br />

jeims flini, avtoritetuli<br />

fsiqologi,<br />

avtori wignisa, romelSic<br />

gaanalizebulia qalebis am<br />

sferoSi `gaswreba~.<br />

profesorma filinma jer kidev 80ian<br />

wlebSi daadgina, rom dasavleTis<br />

qveynebSi mainc, IQ-s testis Sedegebi<br />

yovel aT weliwadSi saSualod sami<br />

punqtiT matulobs. maSasadame, nebismieri<br />

Tanamedrove adamiani Tavis winap-<br />

surT Seiswavlon qveynis ena da<br />

visTvisac es saxelmwifo sabWo-<br />

Ta kavSiris Semdeg meore sam-<br />

Soblo gaxda. aseT pirobebSi,<br />

`istoriuli samSoblodan~ gagzavnili<br />

msgavsi signali eTnikur<br />

rusebs kidev ufro aratolerantuls<br />

gaxdis, moaxdens<br />

maT konsolidacias agresiul<br />

anklavebad, romlebic principulad<br />

ar erTvebian am qveynebis<br />

sulier cxovrebaSi da daiwyeben<br />

brZolas im uflebebis dasacavad,<br />

romlebsac arc aravin<br />

arRvevs.<br />

ueWvelia, putinis es gancxadeba<br />

frTebs Seasxams yofil<br />

sabWoTa kavSirSi mcxovreb rus<br />

umciresobebs. Tu ruseTi Tavis<br />

yofil koloniebSi mcxovreb<br />

rus moqalaqeebs marTlac SeRavaTianad<br />

miscems ruseTis moqalaqeobas,<br />

es imas niSnavs, rom<br />

ruseTi kvlav aCvenebs Tavis saxes<br />

_ igi sabWoTa kavSirisa da<br />

ruseTis imperiis uSualo memkvidrea.<br />

rodisRa unda dadges is<br />

dro, roca yofili sabWoTa<br />

respublikebi TavianT istoriul<br />

pretenziebs wauyeneben ruseTs?<br />

timpul.ker<br />

rebs gonebrivi ganviTarebis doniT 30<br />

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axal realobas da Cvens IQ-sac<br />

iZulebiT zrdis~, _ aseTia profesoris<br />

daskvna.<br />

Tanamedrove cxovrebam, rogorc<br />

Cans, ufro meti gavlena moaxdina qalebze,<br />

vidre kacebze. profesori ikvlevda<br />

axali zelandiis, estoneTisa da<br />

argentinis mcxovrebT da aSkarad gamoCnda,<br />

rom qalebma IQ-s maCveneblebiT<br />

kacebs ajobes. es mniSvnelovani momen-<br />

qalebi mamakacebze<br />

Wkvianebi gaxdnen<br />

tia, radgan aseTi ram pirvelad xdeba.<br />

`saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi, qalebi araxelsayrel<br />

mdgomareobaSi iyvnen, iCagrebodnen.<br />

axla, roca isini damoukideblebi<br />

gaxdnen, Tavis gamoCenac SeZles~,<br />

_ ambobs mecnieri.<br />

La Repubblica<br />

moamzada<br />

g. WavWavaZem.<br />

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20 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

mogzauroba samSobloSi<br />

naavdrali<br />

broweuli<br />

tye-javaxeTi<br />

javaxeTSi sxvadasxva mxridan<br />

ramdenime gza Sedis, magram Cven raki<br />

uwinaresad tye-javaxeTi gvainteresebs,<br />

am mikroqveyanaSi borjom-bakurianis<br />

gavliT da cxrawyaros<br />

uReltexilis gadavliT SevdivarT.<br />

saocaria mzis amosvla cxrawyaroze<br />

wlis TiTqmis nebismier dros.<br />

sinaTle swrafad Camorbis Savi<br />

kldis kalTebze da grZel mindorze<br />

Cerdeba. es <strong>didi</strong>, grZeli zegani<br />

TrialeTis mikroqveynis dasawyisia,<br />

viwro zolad gawolili Rele ki<br />

qciis (xramis) saTavea, romelic<br />

cxra wyaroTi ikvebeba. am adgils<br />

qcia-nariani hqvia da didebuli<br />

cxvris sazafxulo ialaRia. mis gadaRma,<br />

samxreTiT tabawyuris tba da<br />

tye-javaxeTia. Cveni megzuri, borjomis<br />

raionis kulturisa da Zegl-<br />

Ta dacvis maSindeli ganyofilebis<br />

ufrosi mamia SariqaZe gvirCevs, rom<br />

Sublze qciis ankara wyali vipkuroT<br />

da xemsi miviRoT. axalamosulma<br />

mzem nami orTqlad aqcia da kordebs<br />

nisli aadina, romelsac qvevidan<br />

cxvris fara da ZaRlebis yefa<br />

amohyva.<br />

40 wuTis jayjayis Semdeg (axla<br />

es gza baqo-jeihanis navTobsadenis<br />

gayvanis Semdeg sagrZnoblad gamosworda)<br />

tabawyuris tba gamoCnda.<br />

marTalia, jer kidev borjomis<br />

raionSi vimyofebiT, magram es istoriuli<br />

javaxeTia. iq, sadac calke<br />

TrialeTze da TavkveTilas mTaze<br />

saubrobs, vaxuSti batoniSvili<br />

`tbis yuris~ tbasac axsenebs da ambobs:<br />

`wyali ankara, sasmelad tkbili<br />

da Semrgo~. am daxasiaTebas<br />

aucileblad unda daematos sityva<br />

`civi~, radgan tbis SuagulSi wyali<br />

iseTi civia, rom SeiZleba TiTebi<br />

dagazros.<br />

aris Tqmulebis ori varianti,<br />

romlis Tanaxmad es tba mdinare<br />

qciis gadmogdebiT Seiqmna Tamar mefis<br />

Tu vaxtang VI-is dros. iqidan<br />

gamomdinare, rom tabawyuri mdidaria<br />

TevziT, ra Tqma unda, imis varaudic<br />

SeiZleba, rom aq odesRac<br />

marTlac qciidan gadmoadines wyali,<br />

magram is, rom vulkanuri tba<br />

miwisqveSa wyaroebiT sazrdoobs da<br />

amJamad qciasTan aranairi saerTo<br />

ara aqvs, es udavoa. sarkis farTobiT<br />

tabawyuri CvenSi mxolod faravans<br />

da paliastoms CamorCeba, magram<br />

siRrmiT yvelaze metia da roca<br />

Relavs, mrisxane Sesaxedavia.<br />

tbas aqvs erTi miniaturuli<br />

kunZuli da erTic naxevarkunZuli,<br />

romelzec sofel tabawyuris Zveli<br />

ubania Sefenili. erT dros aq<br />

mcxovreb mosaxleobas vaxuSti<br />

TrialeTis mkvidrebad moixseniebs<br />

da ase axasiaTebs: `xolo arian kacni<br />

Trialelni mosilni viTarca<br />

dbanisxevelni (e.i. grZeli Coxebi<br />

mosavTo _ g.q.), simxne-haerovnebiTaca<br />

egreTni, garna eseni umjobesni<br />

yovliTa~.<br />

1828 wlis Semdeg, roca ruse-<br />

Tis mTavrobam aq baraleTeli som-<br />

amieridan Cvens mkiTxvels javaxeTSi _ saqarTvelos<br />

im uZveles mxareSi gavuZRvebi samogzaurod,<br />

romelic istoriuli sabuTebiTac ki Zv-w-aR.is VIII<br />

saukuneebidanaa cnobili _ urartus mefe argiSt I<br />

Zv. w.aR.is 785 wliT daTariRebul warweraSi mis mier<br />

dapyrobil mxareebSi asaxelebs zzaabbaaxxaass, romelic<br />

qarTulad zevaxad da javaxad gamoiTqmis. orive saxeli<br />

SemdgomSi pirTa saxelebadac iqca (iseve, rogorc<br />

kaxa kaxeTidan, herosi hereTidan da qarTlosi<br />

qarTlidan).<br />

saqarTvelos sxva kuTxeebisgan gansxvavebiT, javaxeTSi<br />

xeobebiTa da xevebiT ver vixelmZRvanelebT,<br />

radgan mtkvris kanions Tu ar miviRebT mxedvelobaSi,<br />

mTeli es mxare ori <strong>didi</strong>, mTiani zegania,<br />

romelic mcire mdinareebiTaa daqsaqsuli da ara<br />

dasazRvruli. sxvadasxva wyaros mixedviT javaxeTi<br />

ZiriTadad or administraciul erTeulad yofila<br />

moliTis taZris xedi samxreT-dasavleTidan;<br />

werilis avtori da mamia SariqaZe moliTis erT-erT ciklopur kedelTan<br />

xebi amoiyvana, qarTvelebi nel-nela<br />

gaqrnen. 1850-1860 wlebSi sofelSi<br />

mxolod 2 qarTuli ojaxi iyo dar-<br />

Cenili, axla ki isinic aRar arian,<br />

Tumca aqa-iq iseT adamianebsac SexvdebiT,<br />

romlebic qarTul warmomavlobaze<br />

saubroben. 1947 wels niko<br />

berZeniSvili tabawyurSi gasomxebul<br />

sandoZeebs Sexvedria. erTerT<br />

maTgans markoz sandoZes qar-<br />

Tuli isev xsomebia da mecnierisTvis<br />

aseTi xalxuri leqsi uTqvams:<br />

`qciiT ru vadinevi da xonis tba vadidevio~.<br />

es strofi, garda imisa,<br />

rom zeviT motanil Tqmulebas exmianeba,<br />

imasac gvimxels, rom tabawyurs<br />

adre xoni rqmevia. sofels<br />

rom xoni erqva da Cvenc qarTvelebi<br />

viyaviT, amis sabuTi `beJencobis~<br />

dros davkargeTo _ uTqvams markozs.<br />

soflis am<br />

ubanSi dgas swo-<br />

red X saukunis<br />

naeklesiari _<br />

<strong>didi</strong> da sufTad<br />

gaTlili wiTeli<br />

qviT nagebi taZari,<br />

romelic<br />

1940 wlis miwisZvras<br />

Suaze<br />

danawevrebuli. faravnis tbidan ZiriTadi mtkvris<br />

(artanulas) xevamde arsebul zegans zzeemmoo jjaavvaaxxee-<br />

TTii rqmevia, uSualod ZiriTadi mtkvris xeobas da<br />

misgan dasavleTiT mdebare zegans _ qqvveemmoo jjaavvaaxxeeTTii.<br />

am mxaris ubadlo mcodne devi berZeniSvili<br />

javaxeTs damatebiT 4 fizikur-geografiul qveraionad<br />

hyofs: 1) CCrrddiillooeeTTii _ WobareT-tabisyuri,<br />

2) cceennttrraalluurrii _ axalqalaqis vake, 3) ssaammxxrreeTTii<br />

_ karwax-faravani, 4) ddaassaavvlleeTTii _niali.<br />

pirveli raioni, romelic osmaleTis imperiaSi<br />

Semaval gurjistanis vilaieTis xxeerrTTvviissiiss lliivvaa-<br />

SSii Sedioda, ttyyee-jjaavvaaxxeeTTaaddaaaa moxseniebuli. igi<br />

odesRac tyiani rom yofila da mere gadasxvaferebula,<br />

samsaris kompleqsis warwera da is legenda<br />

adasturebs, romelic baraleTSi movismine. maT Sesaxeb<br />

saTanado adgilze giambobT, axla ki mogzaurobas<br />

SevudgeT.<br />

tabawyuris taZris gare xedebi da interieris erTi kuTxe<br />

gauxleCia da kedlebi miwaze gadauwvenia<br />

daurRvevlad. naavdral<br />

broweuls hgavs wiTeli taZari,<br />

romelsac swored `wiTeli saydari~<br />

SemorCenia saxelad. kedlebze<br />

gvxvdeba mravali apotropuli simbolo:<br />

e.w. bolnuri jvrebi, varskvlavebi,<br />

geometriuli figurebi da<br />

sxva. dasavleT kedelze amokveTilia<br />

saintereso siuJetebi: `samoTxis<br />

mcvelebi~, `wminda mxedrebi~,<br />

`danieli lomebis xaroSi~.<br />

Semonaxulia gadmocema, rom tabawyuris<br />

wiTeli saydris warweriani<br />

qva, rogorc istoriuli sabuTi,<br />

am sofel-kuTxis gviandel mflobelebs,<br />

Tavad ciciSvilebs kedlidan<br />

amouRiaT. is warwera maT sasargeblod<br />

ar iqneboda, radgan X saukuneSi<br />

_ taZris agebis dros ciciSvil-fanaskertelebi<br />

aqedan Sors,<br />

taoSi cxovrobdnen.<br />

am nataZralidan Crdilo-dasavleTiT<br />

kidev erTi eklesiis naSTia<br />

SemorCenili (igi amJamad SekeTebulia),<br />

magram, mxatvruli TvalsazrisiT,<br />

igi wiTel saydars ver Seedreba.<br />

dRis meore naxevarSi tbis samxreT-dasavleT<br />

kideSi mdebare meore<br />

sofelSi, moliTSi SevdivarT,<br />

sadac iqauri kultsaxlis gamge<br />

gvxvdeba. rafaeli (ase hqvia Cvens<br />

maspinZels), iseve rogorc yvela<br />

moliTeli, somexia, magram qarTuli<br />

kargad icis. mas axlaxan dawvia<br />

saxlis zeda sarTuli da axla qveviT<br />

cxovrobs. pirveli sarTuli<br />

Zveli yaidisaa: saZinebel oTaxs saqonlis<br />

sadgomisgan ficruli kedeli<br />

hyofs. win derefania, sadac yvelisa<br />

da erbos kasrebi dgas da<br />

cxvris tyavebi hkidia. iqvea saostigne<br />

da mcire cxvris baga. Soriaxlo<br />

kruxi budobs. Cveni sastumroc<br />

esaa...<br />

rafaeli kidev erT qarTulis<br />

mcodnes gvacnobs, romelsac karga<br />

xnis winaT TbilisSi ucxovria, axla<br />

ki aq sadurglo saqmianobas eweva.<br />

igi qalaqur baiaTebs xan somxurad,<br />

xan qarTulad mReris da somxeTidan<br />

Camosul qaliSvils qarTulis<br />

swavlas urCevs.<br />

tabawyuris tba zRvis donidan<br />

1989 metris simaRlezea, sofeli<br />

moliTi ki ufro maRlaa _ 2030<br />

metrze. javaxeTis isedac grZeli<br />

zamTari aq kidev ufro xangrZlivia.<br />

moliTi, romelic vaxuSti batoniSvilis<br />

rukazec aris aRniSnuli,<br />

Zalian Zveli sofeli Cans. ciklopuri<br />

qvebiT naSeni yore-quCabandis<br />

boloSi, tbis mxares, gamodis<br />

gvirabi, romelic soflis SuaSi SemorCenili<br />

naeklesiaridan unda<br />

iwyebodes. es Zegli wiTel saydarze<br />

mZime dReSia da Zalianaa dangreuli.<br />

somxebs X-XI saukuneebis mar-<br />

Tlmadidebluri taZris gadarCenili<br />

sakurTxevlis afsidis gadakeTeba<br />

da sakuTari samlocvelos mowyoba<br />

ucdiaT erTxans, magram Semdeg<br />

ganzraxvaze xeli auRiaT da<br />

TavianTi kuTxe calke mouwyviaT.<br />

moliTis taZaric umetesad wiTeli<br />

Tlili qviTaa nagebi, magram misi<br />

Strixebis detaluri gacocxleba<br />

SeuZlebelia.<br />

soflis saerTo xedis gadasaRebad<br />

rafaelis navSi vsxdebiT da<br />

tbis Sua<strong>guli</strong>sken mivcuravT. aqamde<br />

rom mxolod erTi ciklopuri yore<br />

gvegona moliTSi, tbidan mTel gayolebaze<br />

araerT aseT kedels vxedavT.<br />

saocari sanaxaobaa: X saukunis<br />

Tu ufro adrindel megaliTur<br />

kedlebze Tanamedrove sofeli wamoskupebula<br />

da ezoebidan Wrela-<br />

Wrula sarecxs afrialebs baiara-<br />

RebiviT.<br />

gela qoqiaSvili<br />

avtoris fotoebi

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

jemal davlianiZe<br />

`maTi mizania<br />

gaanadguron<br />

eris cneba~<br />

(zviad gamsaxurdia agrZelebs<br />

saubars korespondentTan)<br />

`-riT ver daimsaxura Tqvenma<br />

xelisuflebam dasavleTis<br />

keTilganwyoba?<br />

-Cven miviswrafodiT damoukidebeli<br />

politikis gatarebisaken.<br />

ar davemorCileT dasavluri<br />

saxelmwifoebis diqtats,<br />

ar viqeciT maTi interesebis<br />

msaxurad, ufro martivad rom<br />

vTqvaT, Cven ar davuSviT, rom<br />

saqarTvelo dasavleTis koloniad<br />

qceuliyo (rac dRes<br />

ukve saxezea! _ j.d.). dasavleTs<br />

ki mxolod iseTi xelisufleba<br />

aZlevda xels, romelic usityvod<br />

aRasrulebda mis nebas. es<br />

iqca erT-erT mizezad samxedro<br />

gadatrialebisa da xelisuflebaSi<br />

centraluri sadazvervo<br />

sammarTvelos (cru) agentisa<br />

da evro-amerikuli imperializmis<br />

pirdapiri agentis e. SevardnaZis<br />

mosvlisa, magram dasavleTis<br />

wyromas Cvens mimarT, kidev<br />

erTi mizezi hqonda, - saxelmwifos<br />

saTaveSi mosulni,<br />

Cven veswrafvodiT erovnuli<br />

kulturis aRorZinebas, xalxis<br />

SekavSirebas erovnuli suliskveTebiT,<br />

raTa mas mTeli siRrmiT<br />

gaecnobierebina, rom gacilebiT<br />

Zveli istoria aqvs, vid-<br />

re bevr evropel xalxs... Cveni<br />

politikis es erovnuli orientacia<br />

ar iwvevda swored saerTo<br />

evropuli saxlis mesveurTa<br />

aRtacebas, radgan oficialuri<br />

dasavleTi (mxedveloba-<br />

Si maqvs xelisuflebani da ara<br />

xalxebi) ebrZvis yovelgvar<br />

erovnul moZraobas. maTi mizania<br />

gaanadguron eris cneba saerTod<br />

da Seqmnan erTiani msoflio<br />

konglomerati saTaveSi<br />

msoflio xelisuflebiT. am<br />

msoflio mTavrobam unda ganagos<br />

qveyniereba da daamyaros<br />

e.w. axali msoflio wesrigi,<br />

risi arsicaa: ganadgureba saxelmwifos<br />

(qristianuli iqneba<br />

is Tu musulmanuri, religias<br />

isini ar aniWeben mniSvnelobas)<br />

damoukideblobisa, genocidi am<br />

qveynebis mosaxleobisa da saboloo<br />

damorCileba mTeli planetisa,<br />

Zalebi, romelTac ekisrebaT<br />

msoflio xelisuflebis batonobis<br />

Semzadeba, sxva qveynebs<br />

ganixilaven mxolod resursebis<br />

TvalsazrisiT. maTi mizania, es<br />

qveynebi TavianTi xalxebiT,<br />

mTavrobebiT, kulturebiTurT<br />

aqcion ubralo teritoriebad,<br />

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.<br />

`saerTo gazeTi~ #14-31<br />

sadac mosaxleobas datoveben<br />

mxolod msoflio elitisaTvis<br />

saWiro raodenobiT. amasTan,<br />

sruliad demoralizebuls, mzadmyofs<br />

misi interesebis samsaxurisaTvis.<br />

am zraxvaTa ganxorcielebas<br />

mxolod xalxTa erovnuli<br />

TviTSegneba da erovnuli<br />

saxelmwifoebis Seqmna SeiZleba<br />

aRudges, amitom ebrZvis dasavleTi<br />

erovnul moZraobebs, amitom<br />

cdilobs eTniuri konfliqtebis<br />

gaCaRebas da omebis<br />

provocirebas. magaliTad, iugoslaviaSi<br />

mimdinare omi maTi namoqmedaria.<br />

es SemTxveviT, stiqiurad<br />

aalebuli konfliqti ki<br />

ar aris, aramed mizanmimarTulad<br />

gaCaRebuli omia, romelSic<br />

unda daiferflon erovnuli<br />

ideis matarebeli xalxebi.<br />

dRes dasavleTs iugoslaviis<br />

modeli dasavleTidan gadaaqvs<br />

kavkasiaSi, sadac balkaneTis<br />

msgavsad xelovnurad<br />

mwvavdeba erovnebaTaSorisi da-<br />

Zabuloba. SemdgomSi xan aq, xan<br />

iq afeTqebuli lokaluri konf-<br />

liqtebi dasavleTs miscemen sababs<br />

pirdapiri samxedro CarevisaTvis<br />

gaerTianebuli erebis<br />

organizaciis ZalTa saxiT. sul<br />

axlaxan gakeTda gancxadeba, rom<br />

nato qmnis swrafi reagirebis<br />

Zalebs asi aTasi kacis SemadgenlobiT,<br />

romelic Caereva msoflios<br />

nebismier regionSi mimdinare<br />

movlenebSi. friad sayuradReboa,<br />

rom amasTan dakavSirebiT<br />

moxsenebuli iqna kavkasia<br />

da iugoslavia... aseTia arsi<br />

axali msoflio wesrigisa da<br />

dasavleTis politikisa, romelnic<br />

mimarTulia msoflios yvela<br />

xalxis TviTmyofadobisa da<br />

damoukideblobis winaaRmdeg.<br />

-batono prezidento, Tqven<br />

ganzraxuli gqondaT iseTi saxelmwifos<br />

aSeneba saqarTvelo-<br />

Si, romelic orientirebuli iqneboda<br />

erovnuli interesebisken.<br />

ra migaCniaT umTavres pirobad<br />

erovnuli saxelmwifos aSenebisaTvis?<br />

-pirvel rigSi aucilebelia<br />

SemuSaveba iseTi meqanizmisa,<br />

romelic uzrunvelyofda qveyanaSi<br />

mosaxle yvela erovnebis<br />

urTierTTanxmobis miRwevas, erovnul<br />

umciresobaTa uflebebis<br />

ganuxrel dacvas... winaaRmdeg<br />

SemTxvevaSi msoflio kosmopo-<br />

lituri Zalebi, romlebzedac<br />

vlaparakobT, usaTuod Seecdebian<br />

romelime erovnebis ukmayofileba<br />

gamoiyenon saxelmwifos<br />

rRvevisaTvis. es maTi nacadi da<br />

qmediTi xerxia. TviTgamokvlevis<br />

principi, rasakvirvelia ar<br />

unda davides absurdamde. magaliTad,<br />

Tu dRes ruseTSi volgispirelma<br />

germanelebma germanuli<br />

saxelmwifos Seqmna moindomes,<br />

es yovlad dauSvebel<br />

moTxovnad unda Sefasdes.<br />

zviad gamsaxurdia:<br />

`erovneba<br />

ara aqvs cxovels~<br />

-ratom qmnidiT mainc da mainc<br />

erovnul saxelmwifos? saerTod,<br />

raSi sWirdeba adamians<br />

erovneba Tqveni TvalsazrisiT?<br />

-swored erovnuli TviTSegneba<br />

aqcevs adamians adamianad.<br />

erovneba ara aqvs cxovels. sarwmunoeba<br />

da erovnebaa is Ziri-<br />

Tadi Tvisebebi, romelnic adamians<br />

sxva sulierisgan ganasxvaveben<br />

da misTvis am gansxvavebuli<br />

Tvisebis warTmeva umZimesi dana-<br />

Saulia adamianis winaSe. dasawyisi<br />

misi, rogorc pirovnebis<br />

degradaciisa. denacionalizacia<br />

winaparTa da warsulis uaryofaa,<br />

adamianis sruli mokveTaa<br />

erovnuli fesvebisgan. kaci adamianur<br />

arss mxolod Tavisi<br />

erovnuli kulturis wiaRSi<br />

inarCunebs. amitom adamianis<br />

kultura ganuyrelad aris dakavSirebuli<br />

mis erovnebasTan,<br />

igi mSobliuri kulturis meSveobiT<br />

eziareba msoflio civilizacias,<br />

amdenad nacionalizacia<br />

adamianisa da denacionalizacia<br />

qveynisa, wyveten maT kav-<br />

Sirebs danarCen samyarosTan da<br />

daucvels toveben msoflio masStabiT<br />

organizebuli kosmopolituri<br />

Zalebis winaSe.<br />

-riT aixsneba dasavleTis<br />

esoden gazrdili interesi kavkasiis<br />

mimarT?<br />

-es regioni Zalze mniSvnelovania<br />

geopolitikuri TvalsazrisiT.<br />

kavkasiis mflobeli<br />

flobs axlo aRmosavleTsac da<br />

aziasac. es, sxvaTa Soris, mudam<br />

esmodaT dasavleTis qveynebs,<br />

ris gamoc brZola kavkasiisaTvis<br />

uZvelesi droidan mimdinareobda<br />

maTsa da ruseTs<br />

Soris. wminda samxedro TvalsazrisiT,<br />

kavkasia warmoadgens<br />

xids dasavleTsa da aRmosavleTs<br />

Soris, romelic metad<br />

aucilebelia orive mxarisaTvis.<br />

ruseTic kavkasias odiTganve<br />

ganixilavda, rogorc mniSvnelovan<br />

geopolitikur placdarms,<br />

magram ruseTi dRes sustdeba<br />

da amitom dasavleTi miiswrafvis<br />

xelidan gamostacos<br />

mas iniciativa, Tavisi gavlena<br />

gaavrcelos am regionSi da moaxdinos<br />

misi okupacia, magram<br />

es SeuZlebelia kavkasiis sruli<br />

`balkanizaciis~ gareSe.<br />

swored am gegmis xorcSesxmi-<br />

saTvis _ kavkasiis meore libanad<br />

gadaqcevisaTvis aris gamogzavnili<br />

SevardnaZe. man, magali-<br />

Tad, amas winaT pirdapir mouwoda<br />

natos, Caerios kavkasiis<br />

saqmeSi.<br />

—rogor afasebT ruseTis<br />

dRevandel xelisuflebas da<br />

mis politikas kavkasiaSi?<br />

-ruseTis politika did zians<br />

ayenebs ara mxolod kavkasiis<br />

xalxebs, aramed Tavad ruseTis<br />

samomavlo interesebsac.<br />

ase magaliTad, elcinis xelisufleba<br />

ar scnobs CrdiloeT<br />

kavkasiis respublikebis damoukideblobas.<br />

igi ver amCnevs, rom<br />

amiT amwvavebs antirusul ganwyobilebas<br />

regionSi. am dros<br />

ki sakmarisia, ruseTma scnos<br />

respublikebis damoukidebloba,<br />

rom maTi saxiT myisve SeiZens<br />

yvelaze erTgul megobrebs,<br />

radgan aq mkafiod ganasxvaveben<br />

elcinsa da ruseTis saxelmwifos<br />

da pirvelisadmi aSkarad<br />

arakeTilganwyobis sapirispirod<br />

garkveul miswrafebas ganicdian<br />

ruseTisadmi, rogorc<br />

mfarvelisadmi dasavluri eqspansiisgan.<br />

zviad gamsaxurdia:<br />

`mudam miveswrafvodiT<br />

mWidro kavSirs<br />

ruseTTan~<br />

-batono prezidento, Tavad<br />

Tqven rogor ekidebiT ruseTs?<br />

-Zalian kargad. vimedovneb,<br />

arc Tqven aigivebT elcinsa da<br />

ruseTs! mmarTvelebi modian da<br />

midian, qveyana ki rCeba. me mimaCnia,<br />

rom roli, romelsac dRes<br />

ruseTi asrulebs kavkasiaSi, ar<br />

Seesabameba missave interesebs<br />

da okeanis gaRmidan aqvs Tavs<br />

moxveuli. CemTvis ar aris ucxo<br />

prorusuli ganwyoba. me mudam<br />

miveswrafvodi mWidro kavSirs<br />

ruseTTan da vocnebobdi saqar-<br />

Tvelos hyoloda bunebrivi mokavSire<br />

am Tavisi <strong>didi</strong> aRmosavleli<br />

mezoblis saxiT, magram<br />

es ar aZlevda xels dasavlur<br />

samyaros da mis morCil xelisuflebas<br />

ruseTisa. isini ganagrZoben<br />

eTniuri konfliqtebis<br />

gaCaRebas kavkasiaSi. Sedegad<br />

Cven vdgavarT am konfliqtebis<br />

did omSi gadazrdis savsebiT<br />

realuri safrTxis winaSe. me<br />

imedi maqvs, konfliqtSi CaTreuli<br />

xalxebis, pirvel rigSi<br />

rusi xalxis saRi azrisa da<br />

gonierebisa. vimedovneb, igi Seignebs,<br />

Tu vin da ra interese-<br />

saerTo gazeTi<br />

mware gakveTilebi<br />

evroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo<br />

ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666<br />

bis karnaxiT ubiZgebs rus jariskacebs<br />

axali kavkasiuri<br />

omis ufskrulisaken. am omSi<br />

verc erTi mxare ver iqneba gamarjvebuli,<br />

mxolod dasavleTi<br />

moiTbobs xels axali omis alze.<br />

me mwams xalxTa sibrZnisa.<br />

es aris ukanaskneli, ramac unda<br />

gvixsnas katastrofisagan~.<br />

zviad gamsaxurdias am pasuxebSi,<br />

ukve yovelive Tavis adgilzea.<br />

naTladaa gamJRavnebuli<br />

evroamerikuli imperializmis<br />

Canafiqri. aRiZvris kiTxva: samxedro<br />

gadatrialebamde, zviad<br />

gamsaxurdiam icoda es yvelaferi<br />

Tu am samxedro putCis Semdgom<br />

mivida aseT daskvnebamde?<br />

pasuxi calsaxaa _ zviadma<br />

adrec icoda evroamerikuli<br />

gegmebis Sesaxeb, magram bolomde<br />

mainc ar sjeroda. amitom<br />

Tavs ikavebda xmamaRali gancxadebebisagan.<br />

evroamerika zviad gamsaxurdias<br />

prezidentobas ki ar ebr-<br />

Zoda, aramed im saqarTvelos, im<br />

ganwyobas, xalxis im erTsulovnebas,<br />

im aRmSeneblobas, im aRmafrenas,<br />

im sulierebas, romelic<br />

ase Zalumad amoifrqva im<br />

wlebSi.<br />

SevardnaZem pirdapiri davaleba<br />

miiRo evroamerikeli ufrosebisgan<br />

_ exelmZRvanela<br />

zviad gamsaxurdias winaaRmdeg<br />

agorebuli saprotesto gamosvlebisaTvis<br />

da gaeZlierebina. Tanac,<br />

umTavresSi TviTonve xels<br />

umarTavdnen. moimarjves presatelevizia,<br />

daiqiraves sulgayiduli<br />

e.w. qarTveli eqspertebi,<br />

politologebi, Jurnalistebi,<br />

mwerlebi, profesorebi, akademikosebi,<br />

yaCaRebi, sisxlis samar-<br />

Tlis damnaSaveebi, gamohyves sa-<br />

Tanado dafinanseba, gamogzavnes<br />

tyvia-wamali, iaraRi...<br />

am saSinel scenaze ki, wina<br />

planze, mTavar rolSi aucileblad<br />

ruseTi unda yofiliyo. evroamerikas<br />

jer sabWoTa kavSir-<br />

Si, Semdgom ki ruseTis federaciaSi,<br />

xelisuflebis zemo eSelonebSi<br />

hyavda sakuTari warmomadgenlebi<br />

da am mxriv uzrunvelyofili<br />

iyo yvelaferi. Zveleburad<br />

aamuSaves kavkasiaSi<br />

moTareSe, fulis mZebneli e.w.<br />

boevikebi. gaavrceles Wori, rom<br />

qarTvelebi arian agresorebi da<br />

surT afxazi da osi xalxebis<br />

genocidi. rac mTavaria, saamisod<br />

ukve <strong>didi</strong> samuSaoebi ukve<br />

Caatara SevardnaZem jer kidev<br />

kompartiaSi, Semdgom ki moskov-<br />

Si muSaobisas.<br />

(gagrZeelba Semdeg nomerSi)<br />

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~<br />

internetSi<br />

www.saertogazeti.net<br />

SemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-ze<br />

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22 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

zafxuli – Svebulebebis gamoyenebis<br />

yvelaze optimaluri<br />

dro saqarTveloSi, dro, roca<br />

yvela cdilobs qalaqidan gavides,<br />

daisvenos, gairujos, da axali<br />

STabeWdilebebiT dabrundes<br />

saxlSi. umravlesoba zRvaze dasvenebas<br />

arCevs, yvelas uyvars<br />

curva, garujva, mzis abazanebis<br />

miReba, Tumca, cotam Tu icis,<br />

rom am siamovnebas, SesaZloa <strong>didi</strong><br />

usiamovnebebi mohyves janmrTelobis<br />

da ar mxolod janmrTelobis<br />

mxriv.<br />

visac sakuTari manqana ar<br />

hyavs da arc imdeni fuli aqvs<br />

rom sazRvargareT daisvenos,<br />

zRvispira qalaqSi matarebliT<br />

midis. fasebi welsac ucvlelia,<br />

Cqarosnul matarebelSi kupirebuli<br />

bileTi – 20 lari, xolo<br />

e.w. rbili ki 40 lari Rirs. mar-<br />

Talia, Cqarosnuli matarebelia,<br />

magram baTumSi mxolod 7 saaTsa<br />

da 5 wuTSi moxvdebiT, da Tu<br />

fiqrobT, rom an 20 larian bileTSi,<br />

an 40 larianSi, Tundac<br />

yava an Cai Sedis, Zalian cdebiT,<br />

amisaTvis Tanxis damateba mogiwevT.<br />

rac Seexeba fasebs sazRvao<br />

qalaqebSi: yvelaze iafi welsac<br />

grigoleTia. Tumca, igive ar iTqmis<br />

sastumroeb “andamastsa” da<br />

“vila retaze”, romlebic ara<br />

marto grigoleTSi, aramed saer-<br />

Tod, zRvispira zolSi erT-erTi<br />

lideri sastumroebia. komfortisa<br />

da Sesabamisad siZviris gamo,<br />

aq umetesad ucxoelebi da xelisuflebis<br />

warmomadgenleebi Cerdebian.<br />

SedarebiT maRali fasebia<br />

SekveTilSi. SekveTili yvelaze<br />

wynari adgilia dasasveneblad,<br />

amitom am adgils xSirad stum-<br />

roben cnobili adamianebi, rom<br />

xmaursa da cnobismoyvareTA mzeras<br />

moeridnon. kidev ufro iwevs<br />

fasi urekSi, sadac TiTqmis igive<br />

bunebaa rac SekveTilSi, magram<br />

komfortia meti, ukeTesi restornebi<br />

da sastumroebia wamoWimuli<br />

da saRamoobiT mxiarulebis<br />

moyvaruli axalgazrdebi xmaurianad<br />

da safuZvlianad erTobian.<br />

pirveli globaluri problema,<br />

romelic baTumSi dagvxvdebaT<br />

– es koRoebia, xolo meore fa-<br />

RaraTiT da <strong>guli</strong>sreviT mimdinare<br />

enterovirusebi – rasac Ziri-<br />

Tadad dabinZurebuli zRvis wyali<br />

iwvevs. baTumSi yvela quCis<br />

gagrZelebaze aris koleqtori,<br />

sul 14 koleqtoria, romlebic<br />

zRvaSi Caedineba. fekalur masebs<br />

TvaliT advilad ver SevamCnevT,<br />

magram mgoni mainc sjobs icodeT<br />

visTan da rasTan erTad banaobT<br />

lurj-yavisfer zRvaSi – ganavalis<br />

75 % wylisagan Sedgeba, (es<br />

ukve kargia) danarCeni 25% SemadgenlobaSi<br />

Sedis baqteriebi,<br />

cximebi, marilebi, mkvdari ujredebi,<br />

lorwo da cocxali baqteriebi<br />

– ai swored es baqteriebi<br />

(gogirdisa da azotis madliT)<br />

warmoqmnian Savi zRvis saganZuris<br />

zafxuli zRvaze _ gadatanili<br />

infeqcia, sazafxulo romani,<br />

Sewyvetili fexmZimoba,<br />

dacarielebuli biujeti da depresia<br />

specifikur suns. gavrcelebuli<br />

sibrZne, rom eqskrimenti ar iZireba<br />

– ar Seefereba simarTles –<br />

mxolod gazebiT umdidres fekaliebs<br />

axasiaTebT tivtivi.<br />

gasuli wlis zafxulSi<br />

zRvaze banaobis Semdeg infeqciuri<br />

daavadebebiT saavadmyofoSi<br />

bevri bavSvi moxvda. yovewliurad<br />

baTumSi uamrav adamians aRiniSneba<br />

sxvadasxva saxis virusuli daavadeba<br />

– dizbaqteriozi, CawiTlebuli<br />

Tvalebi, dagubebuli yurebi<br />

qaviliT, daavadebuli kani<br />

da bevri, Zalian bevri onkologiuri<br />

daavadebebi. magram, miuxedavad<br />

amisa, zRvaze mec davdivar da<br />

arc sxvebi daiSlian banaobas, amitom<br />

vecadoT SedarebiT sufTa<br />

adgilebi vipovnoT sabanaod -<br />

samxreTidan CrdiloeTisken gabatonebuli<br />

dinebis gamo, baTumSi<br />

masebi gadadis CrdiloeTiT. es<br />

yvelaferi airekleba baTumis koncxze<br />

da Sedis zRvis siRrmeSi.<br />

amitom mwvane koncxi da qobule-<br />

Ti am zegavlenisagan metnaklebad<br />

daculia. rac Seexeba baTums, aq<br />

SedareebiT sufTa adgilebia e.w.<br />

“piSevikebis” teritoria burun-<br />

Tabies koncxidan iaxtklubamde,<br />

aseve sarfis da gonios sanapiroebi.<br />

yvelaze binZuri sanapiro ki<br />

qalaqis dasawyisSi - “benzeSia”.<br />

“benze” ubans ewodeba da imitom<br />

daerqva rom aq adre, sabWoTa kav-<br />

Siris dros benzingadamamuSavebeli<br />

qarxana muSaobda da faqtiurad<br />

pirveli dasaxlebac swored<br />

qarxnis muSebisgan Sedga. amboben,<br />

qarxnidan narCenebi gaufiltravad<br />

Caedineboda zRvaSio. navTobis<br />

narCenebi zRvis fskerze daileqa<br />

da dRemde ver moaxerxa<br />

zRvam misi gawmendao. marTalia,<br />

zRvas aqvs TviTgawmendis unari,<br />

magram albaT, ara am raodenobis<br />

sibinZurisa. “benzesa”: da axlomaxlo<br />

ubnebSi, xan pliaJze qvaze<br />

ipovniT mazuTs, xanac zRvidan<br />

amoxvalT mazuTiT dalaqavebuli<br />

sacurao kostumiT.<br />

ginekologebi Tvlian, rom<br />

zRvidan dabrunebisTanave yvela<br />

qalma unda Caitaros ginekologiuri<br />

kvleva, radgan ucxo garemo-<br />

Si, ucxo mikrofloriT, SesaZloa<br />

uneblie dainficireba moxdes,<br />

Sedegi ki sakmaod gvian gamovlindes,<br />

radgan infeqciebis<br />

did nawils aqvs faruli da veragi<br />

mimdinareoba. Tu trixomonia<br />

an honorea daemarTa adamians, is<br />

amas maSinve, pirvelive kviraSi<br />

mixvdeba, inkubaciis periodis<br />

gasvlisTanave (qavili, arasasiamovno<br />

suni, Warbi gamonadeni,<br />

tkivili da wva Sardvisas da<br />

sxva) magram, sxva paTologiebis<br />

dros es simptomebi klinikurad<br />

ar vlindeba da Cumad azianebs<br />

organizms. saboloo jamSi aRmoCndeba<br />

rom milebia dazianebuli,<br />

an Sexorcebuli – rac uSvilobis<br />

gamomwvvei mizezia. bolo<br />

dros sakmaod xSiria e.w. miqs-infeqciebi<br />

– am dros xvadasxva infeqcia<br />

erTadaa Sereuli da xdeba<br />

adamianis ramdenime daavadebiT<br />

erTdroulad dasnebovneba. Tumca<br />

miqs-infeqcia, TiTqmis SeuZlebelia<br />

mxolod zRvas da an pliaJs<br />

daabralo – radgan rogorc wesi,<br />

is SemTxveviTi kontaqtis arasasurveli<br />

“saCuqaria”.<br />

ra wesebi unda davicvaT janmrTelobis<br />

SesanarCuneblad<br />

sazRvao qalaqSi? – ar unda iwveT<br />

mzis sxivebis qveS roca mze<br />

zenitSia, ar gaataroT <strong>didi</strong> dro<br />

svel sacurao kostiumSi da moerideT<br />

SemTxveviT kontaqtebs.<br />

adamians aqvs rogorc zogadi, ise<br />

lokaluri imuniteti. lokalur<br />

anu adgilobriv imunur sistema-<br />

Si Sedis genitaliuri organoebi.<br />

Tu dairRva mJavatutovani wonasworoba,<br />

maSin organizmSi problemebic<br />

Cndeba. zRvis wyali mariliania<br />

da Sesabamisad iq didxans<br />

yofnam SesaZloa daarRvios<br />

mJavatutovani wonasworoba. Tu<br />

aseTi xangrZlivi banaobis Semdeg<br />

sveli sabanao kostiumiT mzes<br />

xangrZlivad mieficxebiT lokaluri<br />

sasqeso organoebis gadacieba<br />

moxdeba. Tan, gaiTvaliswineT<br />

isic, rom arsebobs mikrofloris<br />

garkveuli saxeobebi, romlebic<br />

mSral sacvalze ar gadadis,<br />

svelze ki advilad ikidebs fexs.<br />

da advilad mravldeba.<br />

da kidev erTi <strong>didi</strong> problema,<br />

romelic sazRvao qalaqidan<br />

dabrunebul mandilosnebs aqvT –<br />

arasasurveli fexmZimobaa. msoflio<br />

statistikis mixedviT weliwadSi<br />

msoflioSi 46 milioni<br />

aborti keTdeba. aqedan 19 milioni<br />

riskiani da saSiSi, radgan araregalurad<br />

keTdeba WuWyian da<br />

arahigienur adgilebSi. rogorc<br />

ginekologebi amboben abortis gakeTebis<br />

moTxovniT, am bolos,<br />

xSirad mimarTaven 14-19 wlis<br />

gogonebi. kanoniT akrZalulia 18<br />

wlamde abortis gakeTeba, amitom<br />

eqimebi am Temaze Riad saubars<br />

eridebian, magram pirad saubarSi<br />

yvela klinikis ginekologi<br />

aRiarebs, rom bolo dros<br />

procentulad yvelaze xSirad<br />

aborts swored 14-dan<br />

19 wlamde gogonebi ikeTeben.<br />

umetesad isini dedebs,<br />

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mihyvebi da Zalian iSviaTad<br />

romelime gogonas<br />

partniori mamakaci mihyves.<br />

gagikvirdebaT da 21-e saukuneSi<br />

aralegaluri abortebic<br />

xSiria, radgan 14<br />

wlis gogona gvian xvdeba<br />

rom orsuladaa, an eqimTan<br />

misvlamde eqimbaSTan cdis<br />

beds, rac imiT sruldeba<br />

rom bolos mucelgaberili<br />

da 4 Tvis fexmZime midis<br />

arasasurveli fexmZimobis<br />

Sesawyvetad. ramdenime ginekologi<br />

mesaubra kolegebze,<br />

romlebic saxlis pirobebSi<br />

aralegarul abortebs ake-<br />

Teben. msgavs pirobebSi momsaxurebac<br />

naklebi Tanxa<br />

Rirs. erT ginekologs ki<br />

iseTi SemTxvevac hqonda, roca 18<br />

wlis mozardma masTan meSvided<br />

gaikeTa aborti. 50-60 procentisTvis<br />

is erTi abortic ki boloa<br />

da uSvilo rCeba. yvelaferi<br />

imiT iwyeba, rom mSoblebi an metismetad<br />

endobian Svilebs da<br />

uflebas aZleven Ramis 2-3 saa-<br />

Tamde klubebSi iaron, an ubralod<br />

ar scaliaT SvilebisTvis.<br />

garda amisa, saqarTveloSi mozardebi<br />

informacias sqesobrivi kav-<br />

Siris kulturis Sesaxeb quCidan<br />

damaxinjebuli, vulgaruli formiT<br />

iReben. daucveli sqesobrivi<br />

kavSiris dros, mxolod dafexm-<br />

Zimebis riski rodia maRali, aseve<br />

xSiria infeqciuri, daavadebebiT<br />

dasnebovneba, amitom ginekologebs<br />

miaCniaT rom fexmZimobis<br />

swori dagegmvisa da seqsualuri<br />

cxovrebis dros Tavis dacvis sa-<br />

Sualebebze, mozardebs aucileblad<br />

unda ekiTxebodeT leqciebis<br />

kursi. daniaSi sqesobrivi aRzrdis<br />

skolis Seqmnas 150 weli moandomes.<br />

igive modelis Seqmna<br />

igegmeboda saqarTveloSic, magram<br />

<strong>didi</strong> winaaRmdegobis gamo, es<br />

proeqti CaiSala. saqarTveloSi<br />

Tvlian, rom 15 wlis gogonasa da<br />

biWs am Temaze saubari ar sWirdebaT,<br />

Semdeg ki igive mSoblebs<br />

14 wlis qaliSvili arakanonieri<br />

abortis gasakeTeblad romelime<br />

ginekologis binaSi miyavs.<br />

rogorc ginekologebi amboben,<br />

abortebis ricxvi gansakuTrebiT<br />

SemodgomiT imatebs mniSnelovnad.<br />

sazafxulo romani rogorc<br />

mozardebs, ise zrdasrul<br />

mandilosnebs urevs Tavgzas. mokled,<br />

qmrebo, Seyvarebulebo, mamebo,<br />

nu gauSvebT Tqvens qalbatonebs<br />

zRvaze martos, iq isini alfonsebisTvis<br />

advilad xelmisawvdomebi<br />

arian.<br />

da bolos, is rac SemodgomiT<br />

kidev erTxel gvaxsenebs<br />

zafxuls – stresi – stresi gadatanili<br />

infeqciis gamo, romelmac<br />

dasvenebis Semdeg erTi-orad<br />

gadagRalaT, stresi imis gamo<br />

rom sakuroto romani iseTi ar<br />

gamovida, rogoric gindodaT,<br />

stresi Sewyvetili fexmZimobis<br />

gamo, gauxeSebuli Tmisa da kanis<br />

gamo da ase Semdeg. mecnierebi amtkiceben<br />

rom maSinac ki, Tu dasveneba<br />

mxiaruli da nayofieri gamodga,<br />

adamianTa mesameds depresia<br />

eufleba mosawyeni samsaxurisa<br />

da yoveldRiuri cxovrebis<br />

reJimSi dabrunebisas. rac ufro<br />

xangrZlivia Svebuleba, miT metad<br />

uWirs adamians cxovrebis Cveul<br />

ritms daubrundes, amitom sauke-<br />

Teso varianti orkviriani Svebulebaa.<br />

da Tu mainc mogeZalaT<br />

depresia, aavseT abazana, CaasxiT<br />

litri rZe, CaweqiT, Tvalebi daxuWeT<br />

da gaixseneT mxolod mxiaruli<br />

da lamazi dReebi sazafxulo<br />

Svebulebidan.<br />

Tamar keSelava

#32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ iuridiuli konsultacia<br />

`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvel-<br />

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_ anderZis aRmsrulebels<br />

Tavisi movaleobis SesrulebisaTvis<br />

gasamrjelo mxolod im<br />

SemTxvevaSi miecema, Tu misTvis<br />

gasamrjelos Sesaxeb miTiTeba<br />

anderZiT aris gaTvaliswinebuli.<br />

xarjebi ki, romelic aRmasrulebelma<br />

gaswia samkvidros<br />

dacvasa da marTvaze, yovelTvis<br />

unda aunazRaurdes mas, miuxedavad<br />

imisa, amis Sesaxeb miTiTebulia<br />

Tu ara anderZSi.<br />

anderZis aRmsrulebels SeuZlia<br />

sakvidrodan gaiRos xarjebi<br />

mxolod mamkvidreblis<br />

movlisa da mkurnalobisaTvis<br />

misi avadmyofobis dros da dakrZalvisaTvis,<br />

mamkvidreblis<br />

rCenaze myofi pirebis SenaxvisaTvis,<br />

xelfasis gastumrebi-<br />

saTvis da samkvidros dacvisa<br />

da marTvisaTvis.<br />

* * *<br />

_ SeiZleba Tu ara gauqmebuli<br />

anderZis aRdgena?<br />

_ ar SeiZleba.<br />

anderZi, romelic gauqmda<br />

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ar SeiZleba aRdgenil iqnes im<br />

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gauqmdeba gancxadebis SetaniT<br />

(samoqalaqo kodeqsis 1399-e<br />

muxli).<br />

mocemuli normis mixedviT,<br />

saqme exeba iseT SemTxvevebs,<br />

roca pirma Tavisi qoneba sxva<br />

pirs(pirebs) uanderZa. amis Semdeg<br />

moanderZem meore anderZic<br />

gaauqma sanotaro organoSi gancxadebis<br />

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anderZi aRar Seudgenia.<br />

miuxedavad imisa, rom gauqmda<br />

is anderZic, romelmac wina an-<br />

derZic gaauqma, wina anderi aRdgenili<br />

ar iqneba.<br />

* * *<br />

_ ra aris savaldebulo wili<br />

da rogor xdeba savaldebulo<br />

wilis raodenobis gansazRvra?<br />

_ mamkvidreblis Svilebs,<br />

mSoblebsa da meuRles (I rigis<br />

mamkvidreebs), anderZis Sinaarsis<br />

miuxedavad, ekuTvniT savaldebulo<br />

wili, romelic unda<br />

iyos im wilis naxevari rac Ti-<br />

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dros ergeboda. es gaxlavT<br />

savaldebulo wili.<br />

savaldebulo wilis gansazRvrisas,<br />

upirveles yovlisa,<br />

unda gairkves samkvidros mTeli<br />

moculoba. samkvidroSi, romlidanac<br />

unda ganisazRvros savaldebulo<br />

wilis odenoba, CaiTvleba,<br />

rogorc anderZiT gaTvaliswinebuli,<br />

ise gauTvaliswinebeli<br />

qoneba. magaliTad, Tu anderZiT<br />

gaTvaliswinebuli iyo<br />

qoneba, romlis Rirebuleba Seadgens<br />

aTas lars, anderZis gareT<br />

ki darCa asi laris Rirebulebis<br />

qoneba, maSin savaldebulo<br />

wilis gansazRvrisas samkvidroSi<br />

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romelic gaTvaliswinebulia<br />

saanderZo danakisris an saerTo-sasargeblo<br />

mizniT raime<br />

moqmedebis Sesasruleblad.<br />

* * *<br />

_ SeiZleba Tu ara anderZze<br />

moanderZis nacvlad sxva pirma<br />

moaweros xeli?<br />

_ mizezi, romlis gamoc moanderZes<br />

ar SeuZlia anderZze<br />

xelis mowera, SeiZleba sxvadasxva<br />

iyos _ fizikuri nakli,<br />

avadmyofoba da a.S. sxva piris<br />

mier anderZze xelis moweras notariusTan<br />

erTad aucileblad<br />

unda eswrebodes moanderZe.<br />

moanderZis nacvlad<br />

anderZze xelis moweris<br />

ufleba ara aqvs im pirs,<br />

romlis sasargeblodac<br />

Sedgenilia anderZi.<br />

pirs, vinc moanderZis<br />

TxovniT xels awers anderZs,<br />

ufleba aqvs, gaecnos<br />

anderZis Sinaarss, magram<br />

misTvis es savaldebulo ar<br />

aris. notariuss ar SeuZlia<br />

uari Tqvas anderZis<br />

dadasturebaze imis gamo, rom<br />

anderZze xelis momweri piri ar<br />

gascnobia mis Sinaarss.<br />

* * *<br />

_ SeiZleba Tu ara anderZis<br />

Sedgena sanotaro dadasturebis<br />

gareSe?<br />

_ SeiZleba, aseTi saxis anderZs<br />

Sinauruli anderZi ewodeba.<br />

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kanoni mkacr formalur<br />

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moanderZem aucileblad<br />

Tavisi xeliT unda daweros da,<br />

cxadia, xeli unda moaweros,<br />

aucileblad unda daesvas Tari-<br />

Ric, anderZi, romelic Tavisi<br />

xeliT dawera moanderZem da xeli<br />

moawera, sruli iuridiuli<br />

Zalis mqonea. miuxedavad imisa,<br />

rom ar aris dadasturebuli<br />

notariusis an sxva Sesabamisi<br />

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anderZi, rogorc wesi, inaxeba<br />

moanderZesTan.<br />

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publicisti, mTargmneli _<br />

dimitri yifianis Svili. swavlobda<br />

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ukravda igi... iyo brwyin-<br />

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iyo, mas mohyvebodnen beJani,<br />

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saerTo gazeTi<br />

li Zmis darad, avbediT droebaSi...<br />

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`saerTo gazeTisTvis~<br />

23

C M Y K<br />

24 saerTo gazeTi #32 (216), 18-24.VII, 2012 w.<br />

lamazi rom iyoT...<br />

miirTviT diliT fafa!<br />

fafa diliT yvelaze<br />

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