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enthusiasm we would have had fewer services kept locally in<br />

terms of emergency services but I’m conscious the modelling<br />

shows up 70 to 80 percent, that modelling will need to be<br />

bottomed out. My experience before is that you bottom them<br />

out as you are going through the process of treating people <strong>and</strong><br />

agreeing protocols.<br />

When will we know what that final figure<br />

will be. Secondly is it dependent on the current crop of medical<br />

consultants willing to cooperate with you or do we have more<br />

sustainable arrangements in place <strong>and</strong> thirdly is there a<br />

retrieval services – shall I carry on?<br />

PETER HAMILTON: Yes.<br />

JACKIE BAILLIE MSP: Okay. I am clear<br />

about what we gain <strong>and</strong> you have described the patient<br />

episodes <strong>and</strong> I note that that’s not patients but patient episodes,<br />

just so that we are clear about that.<br />

My underst<strong>and</strong>ing is that we lose<br />

anaesthetics <strong>and</strong> as a consequence we lose certain surgical<br />

interventions <strong>and</strong> we lose coronary care.<br />

It would be helpful just to spell that out<br />

because whilst there are 5000 emergency case episodes going<br />

to the RAH, how many planned care episodes are there, so how<br />

many in totality are going from here to the RAH. I think that<br />

would just be helpful to know as a context.

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