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1.5.3 Meet<strong>in</strong>g with <strong>the</strong> President<br />

We requested a meet<strong>in</strong>g with President Mbeki <strong>in</strong> order <strong>to</strong> hear his comments<br />

and recommendations on <strong>the</strong> <strong>to</strong>pics covered by our terms of reference and on<br />

<strong>the</strong> follow<strong>in</strong>g issues <strong>in</strong> particular:<br />

The notion that <strong>the</strong> President is <strong>the</strong> ‘primary client’ of <strong>the</strong> <strong><strong>in</strong>telligence</strong><br />

services.<br />

The relationship between <strong>the</strong> President, <strong>the</strong> M<strong>in</strong>ister for Intelligence<br />

Services and <strong>the</strong> heads of <strong>the</strong> <strong><strong>in</strong>telligence</strong> services, and procedures for<br />

supply<strong>in</strong>g <strong><strong>in</strong>telligence</strong> <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong> Executive.<br />

Means of enhanc<strong>in</strong>g control over <strong>the</strong> <strong><strong>in</strong>telligence</strong> services so as <strong>to</strong> prevent<br />

abuse of power.<br />

The meet<strong>in</strong>g with President Mbeki and Dr Frank Chikane, Direc<strong>to</strong>r-General <strong>in</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong> Presidency, <strong>to</strong>ok place on 10 May 2008. The discussion was of great<br />

value <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong> Commission <strong>in</strong> draft<strong>in</strong>g Chapter 4 on m<strong>in</strong>isterial control and<br />

responsibility.<br />

1.5.4 Interaction with <strong>the</strong> M<strong>in</strong>ister<br />

We had several meet<strong>in</strong>gs with M<strong>in</strong>ister Kasrils at which we <strong>in</strong>formed him of<br />

our progress and sought <strong>in</strong>formation on certa<strong>in</strong> issues. We gave him draft<br />

chapters as we prepared <strong>the</strong>m and submitted two activity <strong>report</strong>s <strong>to</strong> him. 7<br />

In March 2008 <strong>the</strong> M<strong>in</strong>ister asked us <strong>to</strong> comment on <strong>the</strong> Protection of<br />

Information Bill. We drafted a detailed memorandum, which was published on<br />

7 M<strong>in</strong>isterial Review Commission on Intelligence, ‘Report <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong> M<strong>in</strong>ister for Intelligence<br />

Services’, I July 2007; and M<strong>in</strong>isterial Review Commission on Intelligence, ‘Report <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

M<strong>in</strong>ister for Intelligence Services’, 31 January 2008.<br />

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