commonwealth of pennsylvania - The Pennsylvania General Assembly

COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA 

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 

TUESDAY, JUNE 30, 1981 

SESSION OF 1981 165TH OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY No. 49 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 

The House convened at 10 a.m., e.d.t. 

THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE 

(JOHN HOPE ANDERSON) IN THE CHAIR 

PRAYER 

REV. EUGENE A. BEAM, chaplain of the House of 

Representatives and pastor of the Faith Evangelical Congre- 

gational Church of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, offered the 

following prayer: 

Let us pray: 

Our Heavenly Father, we search for You inside this beau- 

tiful building, yet our Lord said search the prison, the 

hospital, the welfare neighborhood. We seek our reward 

doing good for our friends, yet You have told us to love our 

enemies and those who have lied to us. 

We see the needs and troubles and pressures of our world, 

and they are so great. At times we want to be ten people with 

twenty hands helping in a hundred ways. Teach us that we 

have the time, but give us the will; we have the ability, give us 

the nerve; and we have Your example, give us Your love. This 

we pray in Your holy name. Amen. 

(The Pledge of Allegiarice was enunciated by members.) 

JOURNAL APPROVAL POSTPONED 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, approval 

of the Journal for Monday, June 29, 1981, will be postpcined 

until minted. The Chair hears none. 

LEAVES OF ABSENCE GRANTED 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair recognizes the 

majority whip. 

Mr. CESSAR. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I request a leave of absence for the gentleman Cram 

Delaware, Mr. RYAN, for this morning's session. 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, the leave 

will be approved. The Chair hears none. 

The Chair recognizes the minority whip. 

Mr. MANDERINO. Mr. Speaker, I request a leave for the 

gentleman from Clearfield, Mr. GEORGE, for this week's 

session; and for the gentleman from Allegheny, Mr. OLASL, 

for this week's session. 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, the 

leaves will be granted. The Chair hears none. 

MASTER ROLL CALL RECORDED 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair at this time takes 

the master roll for the day. Members please report to thcir 

seats. Only those in their seats may be recorded. The clerk will 

take theroll, 

The following roll call was recorded: 

PRESENT-I87 

Anderson Fee 1.ivcnguod Rocks 

A'mStrOng 1.loyd Rybak 

Art) Fleck Lucyk Salvatore 

Bclardi Foster, W. W. McCall Saurman 

Rclfanti Frazier McClatchy Scraiini 

Freind Mclntyre Seventy 

Berson Fryer Mchlonagic Silowers 

Bitllc Gallagher McVrriy Shupnlk 

Blaum Gallen Mackowski Sieminski 

Gambit Madigan Siri;mni 

Bawrer Gan~loil Maiale Smitts, B. 

Ba,es Grist Manderino Smith, E. H. 

Rrandl Gladeck Manmillcr Smith, 1. E. 

'Ow" Grabvuski Maimion Snyder 

Burd Greenfield Merry Spsncer 

Burns 

Caltaeirone - 

Cappabianca 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Michloric 

Micozzir 

Miller 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighnci 

Caw ley 

Misce~ich Stevcns 

Cemr 

Moehlmann Stewarr 

Cimini 

Marria 

Stuban 

Civera 

Harper 

bl09e!y Swaim 

Clark 

Haiay 

hZrlionic Sweet 

Clymer 

Hayes 

Mollen 

Swift 

Cachran 

C~ihcn 

('olafella 

lloefiel 

Honaman 

Horgar 

Murphy 

Nahdl 

Noye 

Taddonia 

Tavlor. . . E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

(:ole 

lii~lihinson, A. O'l)on!iell Tigw: 

(lordisco Hutchilisun, W. Oliver 

Trcilo 

Cornell 

Irvii 

Pendletan Van liorne 

C0ll~tt 

itkin 

Perrcl 

Vrtron 

Cowcll 

Jackson Peterson Wachob 

Cunningham Johnson Fetrarca Wambach 

DeMedio Kanuck Pelrane Wnrgo 

DeVrnei Kennedy Phillips 

Wnss 

IlcWeebe Khngaman Pkcola 

Weng~r 

Daikclcr Kolter 

Piresky Weston 

Uavier 

Koaalyihyn I'islella 

White 

Dawida 

Kukouich Pi::$ 

Wiggins 

Dietr 

Lashiriger Pot1 

Williamr, J. U 

Dininiii 

Laughlin Pratt 

Wilson 

iDombroxski Lrhr 

Pucciare!li Wag:!" 

I)onatucci Le~covilz Pu,!~ 

Woiniak 

Doii 

Letlcnnan Rave 

Wright, D. R. 

Duffy 

Lrvi 

Reber 

Wright, J. L. 

Emerson levin 

Kiegcr 

%vikl 

Evans 

Lewib 

hitir:

ADDITIONS-9 

Alden Foster, Jr . A. Rappapart Telek 

Barber Gray Rkchardson Williams, H. 

Durham 

NOT VOTING-0 

FXCl ISFn-5 

Deal Heiser Ryan, 

George Olasr Speaker 

LEAVE CANCELED-I 

Ryan, Speaker 

MISS PENNSYLVANlA PRESENTED 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Speaker at this time 

recognizes the gentleman from Blair, Mr. Geist, who has a 

very pleasant duty to perform. The Chair at this time turns the 

gavel over to the gentleman, Mr. Geist. 

Mr. GEIST. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

It certainly is an honor for me to be able to present to you, 

the members of the House, the new 1981 Miss Pennsylvania, 

who we hope will be able to go to Atlantic City this year and 

come back Miss America. 

Jill Shaffer-we are quite proud of our new Miss Pennsylvania-was 

born in Altoona, Pennsylvania, the daughter 

of Reverend and Mrs. Shaffer. They and her sister Jill are 

over at the side. 1 would like to offer a warm welcome to the 

Shaffers. Also, I would like to introduce to you Sandy 

Durbin, who is the chaperone for Miss Pennsylvania, and 

Duane Bordell from Altoona, the man who makes this all 

possible. I would like at this time to give them a warm 

welcome to the House of Representatives. 

Not only is the new Miss Pennsylvania very talented; she 

also is quite a hunter. Her first night as Miss Pennsylvania, 

she was staying in the home of the Jack Sears family, and 

practicing - the piano, she had a mouse in the piano and went 

after the mouse with a tin can. So not only is she going to be 

very talented and well representative of the state; she is also a 

good hunter. 

At this time I would like to present to you the new Miss 

Pennsylvania, Jill Shaffer. 

Miss SHAFFER. Thank you very much for that kind introduction. 

Mr. Speaker, honorable members of the House, guests, and 

ladies and gentlemen. It is a great thrill for me to be presented 

this morning, for without great leaders like yourselves, we 

would not have such a fine state. 

Because of my father's ministerial vocation, I have had the 

opportunity to live in seven different communities within the 

Commonwealth. Pennsylvania's grand canyon, her coal 

resources, the Amish area, and Harrisburg itself, her capital, 

are all familiar to me, and I feel very fortunate to have lived 

around the state. After a cross-country tour that we took in 

1971, it was a family consensus that Pennsylvania was by far 

the most beautiful state of all. I consider it a very high honor 

and privilege indeed to be chosen as its representative. 

LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL-HOUSE JUNE 30, 

I am thankful for the freedom America has established. 

Because of that freedom, the Miss Pennsylvania Scholarship 

Pageant is available for young women. It is a chance to 

compete for money that we can use for our education. The 

pageant program instills a sense of competition, self-develop- 

ment, and confidence in every participant. With God's help I 

will uphold the dignity, genuineness, and American ideals that 

this crown represents. 

I believe there are God-given talents in every one of us, and 

the kev to success. . ha~oiness. .. and oeace is to develoo and use 

those talents in a positive way and help others discover and 

develop their talents and their abilities for constructive 

purposes. Using my talents and abilities in Atlantic City in 

representing this fine Commonwealth, if I would become Miss 

America and have nationwide duties, my true allegiance is 

definitely to this state. 

There is a song I taught all my music classes this year, and 

the words are programmed forever in my mind, and they are: 

"Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, strong and true. Pennsylvania, 

Pennsylvania, hear our song to you. There is beauty in your 

mountains; there is peace among your hills, and where'er I 

roam, my only homeis Pennsylvania." Thank you. 

Mr. GEIST. Representative Donald Dorr will present a 

House citation sponsored by Bud Lehr and myself. 

Mr. DORR. It is my pleasure this morning to be the Representative 

of the district to which Jill's parents are about to 

move. Jill is here this morning at the request of Rick and the 

York County delegation, but we are going to have the 

pleasure of having her family in my district very shortly. 

I am going to take this opportunity to read to you, Jill, the 

citation which is passed by the House of Representatives and 

which we will be pleased to present to you. 

WHEREAS, Jill Ann Shaffer, the twenty-two year 

old daughter of the Reverend and Mrs. Paul Shaffer 

of York, was crowned Miss Pennsylvania 1981; and 

WHEREAS, The selection of Miss Shaffer as Miss 

Pennsylvania attests to her great beauty, poise and 

remarkable talents; and 

WHEREAS, Miss Shaffer is a 1977 graduate of 

William Penn High School where she was a member 

of the National Honor Society, the All County 

Chorus and Thespian Society and was captain of the 

Band Front and piano soloist with the Orchestra. She 

graduated Magna cum Laude from Lebanon Valley 

College in 1981 where she was on the Dean's List for 

four years and was a member of the Homecoming 

Court; and 

WHEREAS, An accomplished musician, Miss 

Shaffer has unselfishly shared her talents with others 

as a piano soloist with the York Symphony; chief 

accompanist for many high school productions; 

soloist and accompanist at many school, church, 

college and community activities; and as a piano 

instructor. 

Now therefore, the House of Representatives of the 

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania extends hearty 

congratulations to Jill Ann Shaffer on being crowned 

Miss Pennsylvania 1981; wishes her the best in her 

future endeavors; and further directs that a copy of 

this citation be delivered to Jill Ann Shaffer, 114 

North Newberry Street, York, Pennsylvania 17404.

LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL-HOUSE 

This citation is signed by Richard Geist, Stanford Lehr, 

Don Dorr, and the Speaker. 

Jill, it is my pleasure along with Bud Lehr, who is your 

present Representative, to jointly present this citation to you. 

(Citation was presented.) 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair at this time recognizes 

the gentlemen from Lebanon, Mr. Moehlmann and Mr. 

Improvement Project Itemization Supplement - Department of 

Property and Supplies." adding a project. 

On the question, 

Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration? 

Mr. WAMBACH offered the following amendments No. 

A2801: 

Amend Title, page 1, lines 1 through 6, by striking out all of 

Jackson, who I believe also have a citation to present at this :-e--+;nn 

2a.u irrr..r all" rrLrL, L'B.6 

time. Will they please come forward? Amending the act of December 18, 1980 (P.L.1252, No.228). 

Mr. MOEHLMANN. Mr. Speaker, we have not asked for a entitled "A suoolement to the act of October 6. 1980 

separate citation. However, I would like to make a brief (P.L.784, ~o.l&), entitled 'An act providing for thecapital 

remark, if 1 may. 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is in order and 

may proceed. 

Mr. MOEHLMANN. Mr. Speaker, it has apparently 

budget for the fiscal year 1980-1981,' itemizing public 

improvement and furniture and equipment projects, to be 

constructed by the Department of General Services and transportation 

assistance projects to he acquired or constructed by 

the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation together with 

become a tradition in this House for the gentleman repre- their estimated financial cost; authorizing the incurring of 

senting Altoona, where the Miss Pennsylvania pageant is 

held, to introduce the new Miss Pennsylvania. I have no 

quarrel with that. I also see that the entire York County delegation 

is up on the rostrum all smiles and beaming. I am 

disappointed, however, with the previous speakers. They have 1 

debt without the approval of the electors for the purpose of 

financing the projects to be constructed by the Department of 

General Services or Department of Transportation, stating 

the estimated useful life of the projects; providing for the 

adoption of capital projects to be financed from current revenue; 

of the ~ oiting~~nd and the Fish Fund and making an 

not mentioned that the new Miss pennsylvania represents 

Lebanon Vallev. She was formerlv Miss Lebanon Vallev. . and 

we in Lebanon County are also very proud of her. 

I would like to also state that she is the second consecutive 

Miss Lebanon Valley to be crowned Miss Pennsylvania. 

Lebanon County also congratulates her. 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair thanks the 

gentleman, and we would be glad to have the members from 

Lebanon come up on the rostrum at this time. 

further providing for ~rojects within the 

Department of Education and the Department of General 

services. 

Amend Bill, page I, lines 9 through 19; page 2, lines I through 

12, by striking out all of said line's on said pages and inserting 

section I: Clause A, subdivision 111 (Q) and project 6 of 

subdivision V(a) of clause B of section I, act of December 18, 

1980 (P.L.1252, No.228), entitled "A supplement to the act of 

October 6, 1980 (P.L.784, No.145), entitled 'An act providing for 

the capital budget for the fiscal year 1980-1981,' itemizing public 

improvement and furniture and equipment projects, to be 

The Chair thanks Miss Pennsylvania for coming to visit constructed bv the Deoartment of General Services and transwith 

us today, and 1 think this fall we will welcome her back 

as Miss America. Let us give her a hand. 

portation assistance projects to be acquired or constructed by the 

Pennsvlvania Deoartment of Transnortation torether - with their 

estimated financial cost; authorizing the incurring of debt 

without the approval of the electors for the purpose of financing 

MEMBERS' PRESENCE RECORDED the projects to be constructed by the Department of General 

Services or Department of Transportation, stating the estimated 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The following names will be useful life of the projects; providing for the adoption of capital 

added to the master roll call: The gentleman from Cambria, 

Mr. Telek; the gentleman from York, Mr. Foster; and the 

gentleman from Philadelphia, Mr. Barber. 

projects to be financed from current revenues of the Boating 

Fund and the Fish Fund and making an appropriation," are 

amended to read: 

Section I. Itemization and Authorization of Public 

Improvement Projects.-Additional capital projects in the cate- 

CALENDAR 

BILLS AGREED TO 

gory of public improvement projects to he acquired or 

constructed by the Department of General Services, its successors 

or assigns, and to be financed by the incurring of debt, are hereby 

ON SECOND CONSIDERATION 

itemized, together with the respective estimated financial cost and 

the total additional amount authorized for the public improve- 

The following bills, having been called up, were considered 

for the second time and agreed to, and ordered transcribed for 

third consideration: 

ment projects as follows: 

A. Total Authoriratiol? . 

$378,84j,oOO 

B. Itemization of Public lmnrovement Proiects: 

HB 1332, PN 1482; SB 7, PN 1114; SB 124, PN 656: and SB 

455, PN 861. 

Project ~ase. 

Project 

Allocation 

~esign & 

Contingencies 

Total 

Project 

Allocation 

BILLS ON THIRD CONSIDERATION 

The House proceeded to third consideration of SB 589, PN 

893, entitled: 

An Act amending the act of January 24, I972 (P. L. 3, No. 2). 

entitled "Capital Budget Act for Fiscal Year 1971-1972, Public 

* * * 

111. Department of 

Education %116,033,000 $23,763,000[S145,660,WOl 

-- $146,014,000 

* * * 

Q. University of 

Pittsburgh 

* * I 

(4) Titusville Student

V. Department of 

General Services $44,243,000 $8,738,000 $52,981,000 

(a) Harrisburg Area 

* * * 

(6) State Office 

Buildlng - 

Harristown 

Areal: 

Provided, however, 

That no portion of 

the building sliall 

he utilized for 

anv comtnercial 

purposes]. 

Land 4.500.000 450.000 4.950.000 


Will the House agree to the amendments? 

The SPEAKER pro lempore. The Chair recognizes the 

gentleman from Dauphin, Mr. Wambach. 

Mr. WAMBACH. Thank you. Mr. Speaker. 

I would like to explain the amendment, Mr. Speaker. First 

of all, 1 would just like to relate to Representative Peterson 

that I am not touching at all the project currently in SB 589, 

which is the Titusville Campus. Titusville is the hometown of 

my mother, and 1 would not dare to touch it. 

What my amendment does, Mr. Speaker, is it removes the 

restrictive language which was inserted into the 1980-81 

capital budget last session. That bill contained an authorization 

for the construction of a new headquarters building for 

the Department of Environmental Resources at a site in 

downtown Harrisburg. The proposed site of the building at 

Third and Market Streets is in the core of the retail base of 

Harrisburg's downtown. Much of this core has been revitalized 

with the completion of the first phase of Strawberry 

Square and the linkage of the Pomeroy's Department Store 

with Strawberry Square's mall. The inclusior! of retail space 

on the first two floors of the new building is important for the 

city for a number of reasons. First, because the building will 

be constructed by the state, it will be tax exempt. However, by 

providing retail space in the building, the local authorities will 

be able to receive tax revenues. To avoid anv confusion. the 

state would not be making the payments; the retailers on the 

site woitld. 

Secondly, the Third and Market Street corner ic the only 

location where the important physical and economic tie-ins to 

Strawberry Square and Market Street can occur simultaneously. 

Therefore, a prohibition on retail cpace would have a 

very ~. negative irnp,ict o~n 

nesses back tc the downtown. 

And finally, the completion of the renovation of Market 

Street is an important factor in the city's ability to attract 

developers for a new hotel and a new private office building in 

the downtown. The removal of this restrictive language will in 


I cannot stress to you strongly enough how important this 

issue is to the leaders of the Harrisburg business community. 1 

would ask for an affirmative vote on the amendment, Mr. 

Speaker. 


gentleman from Dauphin, Mr. Piccola. 

Mr. PICCOLA. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I concur in the remarks of Mr. Wambach and urge the 

House to adopt the amendment. This amendment is very 

important to the revitalization of downtown Harrisburg, 

which up until now has been a very outstanding cooperative 

effort bctween private enterprise and government, and this is 

vital in that effort. I would ask the House to concur. 

The SPE,AKER pro tempore. The Chair recognizes the 

gentleman from Blair, Mr. Johnson. 

. Mr. JOHNSON. Would the maker of the amendment stand 

for brief interrogation, please? 

Mr. WAMBACH. 1 shall, Mr. Speaker. 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman indicates he 

will. 

Mr. JOHNSON. Mr. Speaker, does this mean, if this 

amendment is adopted, that our Commonwealth will be in 

competition with private enterprise in renting space? 

hlr. WAMBACH. Mr. Speaker, what the amendment will 

do, of course, is-and the factor that 1 want to stress more 

than any other factor here is the economic cohesiveness of the 

retail space in the downtown area. In other words, the key 

block at Strawberry Square is now completed. We are looking 

for the completion of the second half of Market Street, and 

we would prefer to have the retail space in the DER building. 

To say that it would be in competition, Mr. Speaker, I would 

not agree with that at all. 1 would say that it is simply an addi- 

tion to existing space that is available, and I would not see it 

as competition at all. 

Mr. JOHNSON. Mr. Speaker, may I make a comment on 

the amendment, please? 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is in order and 

may proceed. 

Mr. JOHNSON. Mr. Speaker, I would take exception to 

this amendment. I think it is time our government gets out of 

competition instead of going into competition with private 

ownership of real estate and private business. I would urge a 

negative vote on this amendment. 

On the question recurring, 



YEAS-182 

Anderson Fcc Llovd Rocks 

the efforts to continue to attract husi- I Armstronr Fischer ~ucik Rybak 

Arty Fleck McCall Salvatore 

Rarber Foster. W. W. McClalchy Saurman 

~ ~ ~ Foster, ~ ~ Jr., A. d Mclntyrc i 

Scrafini 

Belfanti Frazier McMonagle Seventy 

8erron Freind McVerry Showers 

Bittle Fryer Mackowski Shupnik 

-. 

R I ~ ~ Calla~hrr ~ Madiean Sieminski 

no way impact the amount of funding contained in the line B~r~ki Gallen h{aiace Sirianni 

1 i"iier Gamble Manderina Smith. B. 

item in the capital budget. There is absolotely no increase. 

Royes Gannon Manmiller Smith. E. H. 

Brandr Geirt Marmion Smith. L. E.

1981 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL-HOUSE 1249 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawle) 

Ceisar 

Cimlni 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Carnell 

Coilett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DcMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeoe 

Daikeler 

Davits 

Dawida 

Dininni 

Dombiowski 

Danatuc~.i 

Dori 

DuSfy 

Emerson 

Evans 

tiladeck Merry 

Grabawski Michlovic 

Greenfield Micozzie 

Greenwood Miller 

Grieca Miscevich 

Gruitra Mochlmann 

Gruppo Morris 

Hagarty Mowery 

Halilska Mikonic 

Harpcr 41ullm 

Hasay Murphy 

Hayes Nahill 

Hoeffel Noye 

Honarnan O'Dunncll 

Horgoi Oliver 

Hutchinson, A. Pendleton 

Hutchinson, W. Perzcl 

lrvii Petrarca 

Itkin Pctrane 

Jackson Phillips 

Kanuck Piccola 

Kennedy Pirvrky 

Klingaman Pistclla 

Kolter Pills 

Kowalyshyn Pott 

Kukovich Pratt 

Laihinger Pucciarelli 

Laughlin Punt 

Lchr Rasco 

Leicovitl Reber 

Le\i Rieger 

Lewis Ritt~r 

Livengood 

NAYS-6 

Diet? Letterman Shift Wilson 

Johnson Peterson 

NOT VOTING-8 

Snyder 

Spencer 

spit^ 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor. k. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vl00" 

Wachab 

Wambach 

Wargo 

was5 

Wenger 

Westan 

While 

Wiggins 

Willlamr, J. D. 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. K. 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Alden Durham Lerin Richardson 

Belofl' Gray Rappaport Willi~ms. H 

EXCUSED-5 


George Olasz Speaker 

The question was determined in the affirmative, and the 

amendments were agreed to. 


Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration as 

amended? 

Bill as amended was agreed to. 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. This bill has been considered 

on three different days and agreed to and is now on final 

passage. 

The question is, shall the bill pass finally? 

Agreeable to the provisions of the Constitution, the yeas 

and nays will now be taken. 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Bdoff 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. 

Foster. Jr. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

YEAS-187 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

W. Lucyk 

, A. McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurn~an 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminnki 

Sirianni 

Smith. R. 

Smith, E. H 

Boyes 

Rrandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltagirone 

('appabianca 

(Cawley 

(Jesrar 

Cirnini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cocliian 

C0hcn 

ColaSella 

Cole 

Curdisco 

Cornell 

Cosleu 

Cowcll 

Cunningham 

IDeMrdla 

DeVerter 

DeWccre 

Daikeler 

Uavlcs 

Dauida 

Dicti 

Dininni 

1)ombrowiki 

Donatucci 

Dori 

I)"ffy 

Emerson 

Geiit 

Cladeck 

Grabowiki 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grirca 

Gruitra 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Haye 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Hotchinson, 

Hutchinson, 

lrris 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Lauyhlin 

L.ehr 

Ie~f~vif~ 

I.etterman 

Lrvi 

Levin 

Mandrrino 

Manmiller 

Maimion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozrie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowcry 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Naye 

A. O'Donnell 

W. Oliver 

Pendietan 

Perzel 

Pcrerson 

Petrarca 

Pctrone 

Phillips 

Piccala 

Pirvsky 

Pistella 

Pot1 

Pratt 

Pucciarclli 

Punt 

Raaco 

Reber 

Rieger 

Rifler 

NAYS-3 

Fischrr Pitis Stairs 

NOT VOTING-6 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddanio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Trlrk 

Tigue 

'Trcllo 

Van Harnc 

Vroon 

Wachab 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wengcr 

Werton 

White 

Wig8ir.s 

Williams, J. D 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wazniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Alden Gray Richardson Williams, H. 

Durham Rappaport 

EXCUSED-5 


George Olasz Speakel 

The majority required by the Constitution having voted in 

the affirmative, the question was determined in the affirma- 

tive. 

Ordered, That the clerk return the same to the Senate with 

the information that the House has passed the same with 

amendment in which the concurrence of the Senate is 

requested. 

HOUSE SCHEDULE 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair at this time recog- 

nizes the majority leader. 

Mr. HAYES. Mr. Speaker, may I have everyone's atten- 

tion, please, for the purpose of announcement? 

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Today is going to be a long and difficult day. We are trying 

to conclude our spring-summer session no later than 

tomorrow. To do that we are going to need everyone's coop 

eration. 

Many of the bills which are currently on the calendar have 

not yet been caucused on. 1 am going to ask both caucus 

chairmen to take their respective caucuses to caucus at this

1250 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL-HOUSE JUNE 30, 

time and meet on all those bills which are currently on the 

calendar, all the bills, be they second consideration, third 

consideration, or concurrence in Senate amendments. I would 

like you to clear your caucuses so that we can come back at 

1:30, 1:30, and begin voting on those bills which are on the 

calendar so that we can have a good voting session today and 

conclude our work tomorrow. Everything has worked well to 

this point. I do not see any reason why we cannot conclude 

our work by the close of business tomorrow, but again, it is 

going to take everyone's cooperation. 

At this time, Mr. Speaker, I move that we recess the House 

of Representatives until 1:30 p.m. 

DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS 

THE SPEAKER (MATTHEW J. RYAN) 

IN THE CHAIR 

LEAVE OF ABSENCE CANCELED 

The SPEAKER. Without objection, the Speaker's name 

should be removed from the morning's leave of absence list. 

The Chair hears none. 

WRIT OF ELECTION 

The SPEAKER. The Chair places before the House a writ 

for the special election to fulfill the term caused by the death 

of Arthur F. Earley, which the clerk shall read. 

The following writ of election was read by theclerk: 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair recognizes the COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA. SS: 

minority leader. 

To Honorable William R. Davis, Secretary of the Common- 

Mr. IRVIS. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

wealth, and to Faith Ryan Whittlesey, Frank Lynch and Lois 

M~, speaker, it will be necessary for the D~~~~~~~~ to meet Peterson, constituting the Board of Elections of Delaware 

County. 

immediately in caucus, immediately, please. We would like to 

WHEREAS, A vacancy exists in the office of 

mark the entire calendar. 

Representative of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for the 

I agree with the majority leader. It is going to be a long and 159th Legislative District of the County of Delaware caused by 

very trying day, but we could shorten it if we get . to our caucus reason of the death of Arthur F. Earley, the Representative from 

immediately. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

said District, on June 8, 1981. 

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Matthew J. Ryan, Speaker of the 

House of Representatives, by virtue of the authority vested in me 

REPUBLICAN CAUCUS 

by the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 1 by the Act of Assembly in such case made and provideo, . and 

ao . 

The SPEAKER oro temoore. The Chair recoeni7eq the herebvcommandvou: 

~~ .~.. ------- ---majority 

caucus chairman, Mr. Noye. 

That you cause an election to be held in the said Legislative 

Mr. NOYE. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

District of Delaware County on September 15, 1981, to choose a 

person to represent said Legislative District in the House of 

The Republicans will caucus promptly at 10 to 11. At 10 of, 

~~~~~~~~~~~i~~~ of pennsylvania for [he remainder of [he 

we will be in caucus and do the entire calendar so we can get expiring December 1, 1982, and that you give due and public 

people out for lunch. Thank you. 

notice of said election throuahout - said District. in the form and 

manner directed by law. 

STATEMENT ON 

LEGISLATION TO BE INTRODUCED 

Given under my hand and seal of the House of Representatives 

at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, this 24th day of June, A. D., one 

thousand nine hundred eighty-one. 


gentleman from Dauphin, Mr. Piccola. 

Mr. PICCOLA. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

ATTEST: 

JOHN J. ZUBECK 

Chief Clerk of the House of Representatives 

MATTHEW I. RYAN 

I am going to introduce, in the next minute or two. the two 

Speaker of the House of Representatives 

bills on sentencing and parole reform. If there are any 

COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA 

members who have not vet indicated their wish to cosnonsor 

~~~ ~ ~~- . ~ ~~--that 

legislation, 1 will leave them at the desk and they may do COUNTY OF DAUPHIN 

) 

I ' ss: 

) 

so before we return to the floor. Thank you. 

Robert M. Scheipe, being duly sworn according to law, says 

that he resides at 208A South Center Street, Pottsville. PA, 

RECESS 

17901, Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania, that he is a Sergeant-at- 

Arms of the House of Representatives, Commonwealth of Penn- 

The SPEAKER pro 

recess until 1.30 p.m. 

This stands in 

sylvania, specially deputized. 

That he served on the Honorable William R. Davis, Secretary 

of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, on the 29th day of June. 

1981. at 11:OI o'clock A.M., at his office in Harrisburg, a writ 

AFTER RECESS 

for a special election for the office of Representative in the 

General Assembly for the 159th Legislative District of Delaware 

The time of recess having expired, the House was called to 

order. 

County, by command Of lhe Matthew Ryan, 

Speaker of the House of Representatives of the Commonwealth 

of Pennsylvania. 

ROBERT M. SCHEIPE 

Sergeant-at-Arms


Sworn and subscribed to before 

me this 30th day of June, 

1981. 

NANCY K. GROVE, Notary Public 

My Commission Expires 

Feb. 18, 1982 

Harrisburg, PA, Dauphin County 

COMMONWEALTH - - 

OF PENNSYLVANIA 

) SS: 

COUNTY OF DAUPHIN ) 

Robert M. Scheipe, being duly sworn according to law, says 

that he resides at 208A South Center St., Pottsville, PA 17901, 

Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania, that he is a Sergeant-at-Arms 

of the House of Representatives, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, 

specially deputized. 

That he served on the Board of Elections of Delaware County, 

on the 29th day of June, 1981 at 2:35 o'clock, P.M., at its office 

in Media, a writ for a special election for the office of Representative 

in the General Assembly for the 159th Legislative District 

of Delaware County, by command of the Honorable Matthew J. 

Ryan, Speaker of the House of Representatives of the Commonwealth 

of Pennsylvania. 

ROBERT M. SCHEIPE 

Sergeant-at-Arms 

Sworn and subscribed to before 

me this 30th day of June, 

1981. 

NANCY K. GROVE, Notary Public 

My Commission Expires 

Feb. 18, 1982 

Harrisburg, PA, Dauphin County 

COMMUNICATION 

LOBBYIST LIST PRESENTED 

The SPEAKER. The Chair acknowledges receipt of a 

lobbyist registration list dated June 1, 1981, which will be 

made part of record. 

The following communication was read: 

Senate of Pennsylvania 

June I, 1981 

To the Honorable, the Senate of the 

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 

To the Honorable, the House of Representatives 

of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 

In compliance with Act No. 712 of the 1961 Session and Act No. 

212 of the 1976 Session of the General Assembly titled the 

"Lobbying Registration and Regulation Act," we herewith 

jointly present a list containing the names and addresses of the 

persons who have registered from May 1, 1981 through May 29. 

1981 inclusive for the 165th Session of the General Assembly. 

This list also contains the names and addresses of the organiza- 

tions represented by these registrants. 

Respectfully submitted: 

W. Thornas Andrews 

Secretary of the Senate 

COMMUNICATION 

LOBBYIST LIST PRESENTED 

The SPEAKER. The Chair acknowledges receipt of an 

additional list containing the same subject matter, dated June 

30, 1981. 

The following communication was read: 

Senate of Pennsylvania 

June 30, 1981 

To the Honorable, the Senate of the 


To the Honorable, the House of ~epresentatives 

of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 

In compliance with Act No. 712 of the 1961 Session and Act No. 

212 of the 1976 session of the ceneral Assembly titled the 

- ~ ~ b ~ b ~ i ~ ~ i and ~ ~ ~ t ~ ~ ~ct," t ~ i we ~ l herewith ~ t i ~ 

jointly present a list containing the names and addresses of the 

persons who have registered from J~~~ 1, 1981 through June 30, 

1981 inclusive for the 165th Session of the General Assembly. 

hi^ list also contains the names and addresses of the organizations 

represented by these registrants. 

Respectfully submitted: 

W. Thomas Andrews 

Secretary of the Senate 

John J. Zubeck 

Chief Clerk 

House of Representatives 

(For list, see Appendix.) 

SENATE MESSAGE 

HOUSE BILL 

CONCURRED IN BY SENATE 

The clerk of the Senate, being introduced, returned HB 

638, PN 1074, with information that the Senate has passed the 

same without amendment. 


AMENDED HOUSE BILL 

RETURNED FOR CONCURRENCE 



same with amendment in which the concurrence of the House 

ofRepresentatives is requested. 

The SPEAKER. The bill will appear on the calendar 


HOUSE AMENDED SENATE 

BILLS CONCURRED IN 

(For list, see Appendix.) 

John J. Zubeck 

Chief Clerk 


The clerk of the Senate, being introduced, informed that 

the Senate has concurred in the amendments made by the 

House of Representatives to SB 133, PN 91'7; SB 134, PN 916; 

and SB 458, PN 1023. 

I

BILLS SIGNED BY SPEAKER 

The Chair gave notice that he was about to sign the 

following hills, which were then signed: 

An Act amending the "Building Energy Conservation Act," 

approved December 15, 1980 (No. 222), further providing for 

exclusions from the definition of "building" and for steam and 

hot water heating systems. 

An Act establishing certain fees to be charged by registers of 

wills in counties of the fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth class and 

providing for fees in counties of the second, second A, third and 

fourth class. 

SB 134, PN 916 

An Act establishing certain fees to be charged by clerks of the 

orphans' courts in counties of the fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth 

class and providing for fees in counties of the second, second A, 

third and fourth class. 

An Act amending the act of June 22, 1931 (P. L. 594, No. 203). 

entitled "Township State Highway Law," amending and deleting 

routes in La~~caster County and York County. 

A Supplement to the act of July 28, 1966 (3rd Sp. Sess., P. I.. 

87, No. 3), entitled "University of Pittsburgh - Commonwealth 

Act," making appropriations for carrying the same into effect, 

providing for a basis for payments of such appropriations, and 

providing a method of accounting for the funds appropriated. 

SB 855. PN 1028 

A Supplement to the act of November 30, 1965 (P. L. 843, No. 

355), entitled "Temple University - Commonwealth Act," 

making appropriations for carrying the same into effect, 

providing for a basis for payments of such appropriation and 

providing a method of accounting for the funds appropriated. 

An Aa mak~ng an approprlarlon to the Trustee\ of [he Cmhcr- 

511) of P~tt


Agent Orange legislation has just been introduced here in the There was in the Appropriations hearing some testimony 

State of Pennsylvania. I have a brother who is suffering regarding possible layoffs, and this would assure that there 

terribly from Agent Orange poisoning, and I just think it is would be no layoffs under the present complement of the 

courageous that the state Representatives here are sending PUC. It also assures that the 8-percent salary increase is going 

constructive notice to the Federal Government that we have to to be covered. It also insures the continuation of the 

take care of our boys, not only in the State of Pennsylvania Scranton-Altoona offices. It also insures the continuation of 

but in the United States. As we are rebuilding a military and a computer programming of the rate cases, continuation of 

national defense, the best way to rebuild something is to show 

our children and our children's children that we take care of 

contract to monitor consumer complaints of utilities, the 

maintenance of a WATS -Wide Area Telephone Service - line 

them, as Lincoln said, that have borne the battle, and I thank service to handle consumer utility terminations, free lines, and 

you very much, Mr. Speaker, for giving me the honor today. a continuation of conservation activities. 

I was proud to represent the State of Pennsylvania as I wore I think it is something that is needed by the Public Utility 

a uniform in the United States Army. I was the youngest Commission. I certainly ask for support of this amendment. 

captain to serve in Vietnam, at 20 years of age, and retired Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

because of wounds received in combat as I was shot in the The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from 

back, both legs, stabbed in the left arm, and had on 40 percent Erie, Mr. Dombrowski. 

of my body second- and third-degree napalm burns. 1 am Mr. DOMBROWSKI. Would the Appropriations 

proud to be home, and thank you for what you are doing on Committee chairman stand for brief interrogation, please? 

behalf of the Vietnam veterans and all the veterans so we can The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates he will stand for 

keep America our America. Thank you. 

interrogation. The gentleman may proceed. 

Mr. DOMBROWSKI. Mr. Speaker, in the Senate there was 

LEAVE OF ABSENCE 

offered an amendment to include the Erie office. You did not 

touch that part of the bill, did you? 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the minority whip in Mr. McCLATCHY. No: that monev is still in. 

connection with a leave of absence. 

Mr. DOMBROWSKI. Thank you, sir. 

Mr. MANDERINO. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman, Mr. 

Olasz, from Allegheny County had asked for a leave of 

absence, and we wanted to specifically note in the record that 

On thequestionrecurring, 

Will the House agree to the amendment? 

his leave was necessitated by a death in the family. 


The SPEAKER. The Chair thanks the gentleman. YEAS-192 

CALENDAR RESUMED 




An Act making an appropriation from a restricted revenue 

account within the General Fund to the Public Utility Commis- 

sion. 



Mr. McCLATCHY offered the following amendment No. 

A2810: 

Amend Sec. 1, page 1, line 5, by striking out "$18,521,000" 

and inserting 

$18,721,000 



The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from 

Montgomery, Mr. McClatchy. 

Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, this amendment would 

give the Public Utility Commission an additional $200,000 in 

moneys to give them more leeway in the areas of operation, 

specifically giving them the leeway to fund the administrative 

law judges and also community affairs. 

Alden Fischer McCall Saurman 

Anderson Fleck McClatchy Serafini 

Armstrong Foster, W. W. Mclntyre Seventy 

Arty Poster, Jr., A. McMonagle Showers 

Barber Frzier McVerry Shupnik 

Belardi Freind Mackowski Sieminski 

Belfanti Fryer 

Madigan Sirianni 

Beloff 

Bersan 

Bittle 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Blaum Cannon Marmian Snyder 

Borski Geist 

Merry Spencer 

Rowser Gladeck Michlavic Spitz 

Bayes Grabowski Micozzie Stairs 

Brandt Greenfield Miller Steighner 

Burd Greenwood Miscevich Stevens 

Burns Grieco 

Moehlmann Stewart 

Caltagirone Gruitza Morris Stuban 

Cappabianca Cruppo Mowery Swaim 

Cawley Hagarty Mrkonic Sweet 

Cessar Haluska Mullen Swift 

Cimini 

Civera -~ ~~~~ 

Clark 

Hasay 

Murphy 

Have? ~~~,~~ Nahill 

Hoeffel Noye 

Taddonia 

Taylor. . . E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Clymer Honaman O'Donnell Telek 

Cochran Horgos Oliver 

Tigue 

Cohen 

Hutchinson, Pendleton Trello 

Colafella Hutchinsan, Perzel 

Van Hamc 

Cole 

lrvin 

Peterson Vroon 

Cardisco ltkin 

Petrarca Wachab 

Cornell Jackson Petrone Wambach 

Cuslett 

Johnson Phillips Wargo 

Cawell 

Kanuck Piccola was 

Cunningham Kennedy Pievsky Wenger 

DeMedio Klingaman Pistella Wesfon 

DeVerter Kolter 

Pitts 

White 

Daikeler Kowalyshyn pot1 

Wiggins


Davies Kukovich Pratt Williams. H. On the question, 

Dawida Lashinger Pucciarelli Williams, I. D. Will the House agree to the amendments? 

Dietz Launhlin Punt Wilson 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Brown 

~eh; 

Lescovitr 

Letter man 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

Rappaport Wogan 

Rasco Wozniak 

Reber Wright. D. R 

Rieger Wright. J. L. 

Rifler Zwikl 

Rocks 

Rybak Ryan, 

Salvatore Speaker 

NAYS-1 

NOT VOTING-4 

DeWeese Gray Harper Richardson 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heirer Olasz 


amendment was agreed to. 



amended? 

Mr. PIEVSKY offered the following amendments No. 

A2742: 

Amend Title, page I, line 1, by striking out "an appropria- 

tion" and inserting 


Philadelphia, Mr. Pievsky. 

Mr. PIEVSKY. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker, this amendment makes two changes to SB 

681. First, this year is the first year we have ever had the 

opportunity to pass a budget for the Public Utility Commis- 

sion on the floor of this House. Given this opportunity. I feel 

. . 

it is appropriate for this chamber to exercise some oversight 

into how the Public Utility Commission spends its money. To 

do so, I have split the Public Utility Commission budget into 

four major functional areas. These four areas are: Number 

one, general government operations; number two, counsel 

and administrative law judges; number three, rates, research, 

and transportation; and number four, investigation, 

consumer services, and compliance. 

Mr. Speaker, the second change made by this amendment is 

to increase the funding of the Public Utility Commission by 

$348,000. The major portion of this increase is directly made 

in the areas of counsel and administrative law judges, and 

rates, research, and transportation. It is in these areas, Mr. 

Speaker, that if underfunding occurs, the consumer is left 

vulnerable to unnecessary and unwarranted rate increases. 

The Bureau of Rates researches requests for rate increases 

submitted by the utilities. Together with the office of counsel, 

appropriations 

I thev , areue the case as ~rosecutorial staff before an adminis- 

Amend ill, page 1, lines 5 through 13, by striking out all of trative law judge. The administrative law judgess findings are 

said lines and inserting 

then presented to the commission for final action. Under- 

Section I. The following sums, or as much thereof as may 

be necessary, are hereby specifically appropriated from the funding lhe Bureau of Rates Or the office of counsel could 

restricted revenue account within the General Fund to the Public lead directly to inadequate investigation of requested rate 

Utility Commission to provide for the operation of the commis- 1 increases and aDDrovalof . . a larger - rate increase than would 

sion for the fiscal periodJuly 1, 1981 to June 30, 1982, for the ot~erwise~eapprove~, 

purposes and in the amounts shown: 

Mr. Speaker, the Bureaus of Rail and Non Rail Trans- 

(I) For the salaries, wages and all necessary 

expenses for the proper administration of the 

portation provide direct services to the public through inspec- 

Public Utilitv Commission including the 

tion of rail lines, grade crossings, and motorized transchairman 

and commissioners, Office of the 

portation vehicles such as taxis and buses. Underfunding in 

Director of Operations, Bureau of Public Infor- 

this area would be a direct threat to the public safety. 

mation and the Secretary's Bureau ................. 

Mr. Speaker, SB 681, as passed by the Senate, would cause 

(2) For the salaries, wages and all necessary 

the layoff of about I5 staff of the Public Utility Commission. 

expenses for the proper administration of the 

During the past 2 years that complement of the Public Utility 

Offices of Counsel and Administrative Law 

Commission has already been reduced by some 43 positions. 

Judge.. ..................................................... 

The further reduction proposed by SB 681 represents a direct 


threat to the utility consumer in Pennsylvania. 

expenses for the proper administration of rates, 

Mr. Speaker, my amendment would cost the average utility 

research and transportation including the Bureau 

consumer a total of 2 cents per year, and for that 2 cents, Mr. 

of Conservation, Economics and Energy Plan- 

Speaker, the consumer would receive added protection 

ning, Bureau of Nonrail Transportation, Bureau 

against tens or even hundreds of dollars of unneeded utility 

of Rail Transportation and the Bureau of Rates.. 

rate increases. Mr. Speaker, I urge passage of this amend- 


ment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

expenses for the proper administration of invest- 


igations, services and enforcement including the 


Bureau of Audits, the Bureau of Conwmer 

Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose the 

Services and the Bureau of Safety and Compliamendment. 

The Pievsky amendment, if it goes in, will 

ance including $46,000 for the Erie Regional 

certainly strip out my amendment completely. What we have 

Office of the Bureau of Consumer Services ........ 

here is a difference in policy direction. We have argued it back 

and forth at different times. 1 feel that separating out in


different areas takes away from the PUC chairman and their 

members the ability to change from fund to fund or from area 

to area without coming back to us. 1 think it certainly gives 

them more discretion, and I have full faith and belief in the 

ability of the PUC as it is now constituted to do the proper 

job. Mr. Speaker, I therefore oppose the Pievsky amendment. 


Somerset, Mr. Lloyd. 

Mr. LLOYD. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the Pievsky 

amendment. As one who has appeared on many, many days 

before the Public Utility Commission to represent consumers 

against rate increases, and as one who has sat as an adminis- 

trative law judge for the commission, 1 believe that we are on 

the verge of being penny-wise and pound-foolish. 

The Pievsky amendment will accomplish two things, in my 

opinion. One, it will provide adequate funding for the 

ratemaking process. Now, I know that the cost of the 

ratemaking process and the cost of the Public Utility Commis- 

sion budget are passed along to utility customers, but the fact 

of the matter is that in every major rate case pending before 

the Pennsylvania commission, customers are being asked and 

required to pay the cost of the attorneys and expert witnesses 

for the utility companies, which run in every major case 

anywhere from $500,000 to in excess of $1 million a case. 

Furthermore, Mr. Speaker, as most of the members of this 

chamber are aware, earlier this year the Senate cut the budget 

of the Office of Consumer Advocate, which is responsible for 

representing our constituents in opposition to utility rate 

increases. If we do not provide proper funding for the rate 

counsel staff and the rate experts of the Public Utility 

Commission, we may save a couple hundred thousand 

dollars, but we are going to cost the utility customers of this 

state millions of dollars. 

The second thing which the Pievsky amendment does and 

which is beneficial is it removes the discretion of the Public 

Utility Commission to move money around as it sees fit. 

Every time there is a discussion of cutting the budget of the 

Public Utility Commission, the commission always says, well, 

we are going to have to lay off rate attorneys or rate experts. 

Now, I know there is an awful lot of waste and inefficiency at 

the commission and there are many things which the commis- 

sion does in the area of transportation regulation which 

perhaps do not need to be done at all, and I know for a fact an 

office in Pittsburgh where, if you walk in and you see some of 

the people involved in the enforcement section, I do not think 

I have ever seen them do anything other than read magazines 

and look out the windows. 

I think it is time for this legislature to start appropriating in 

specific ways to the Public Utility Commission. If we want to 

gain control of cost overruns over there, then the way to do 

that is to provide the money for the high priority matters like 

rate litigation, which has the impact of millions and millions 

of dollars on our constituents, and to take the money away 

from the chicken-feed kinds of things which the commission 

might otherwise choose to make as a priority. So, Mr. 

Speaker, I urge adoption of the Pievsky amendment. 


Westmoreland, Mr. Kukovich. 

Mr. KUKOVICH. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I agree completely with the comments of Representative 

Lloyd, so I will not reiterate the points he made, but I will add 

just a few others. 

I think it is important to keep in mind that in the area of 

ratemaking, where the PUC sits in a quasi-judicial position, 

that even at this point in time, without the cuts which will go 

in if the Pievsky amendment is not adopted, they do not have 

the wherewithal to deal with all the utilities in this state. They 

simply cannot do it. To hamstring them even more would be 

disastrous. If we want to provide proper oversight, we have to 

start delineating where the money will go in the manner of 

appropriating the Pievsky amendment. So if you are 

concerned about oversight, and maybe even more impor- 

tantly, if you are concerned about open government, you will 

vote for the Pievsky amendment. And to explain that, right 

now we see the PUC entering into more and more negotiated 

settlements with utility companies. What that basically means 

is that many utilities are coming in before the PUC asking for 

a large rate request, and because the PUC may not have the 

resources-and they certainly will not if this bill passes 

without the Pievsky amendment-they will not be able to go 

through rate cases; they will not be able to have rate hearings. 

They currently only have 33 auditors to deal with the myriad 

of utilities across this state. What they will have to do without 

the Pievsky amendment is enter into more and more negoti- 

ated settlements behind closed doors without public input, 

without anopenhearing. 

So, Mr. Speaker, 1 think whenever you are voting for this 

amendment, you are going to be voting for simply more than 

an allocation of funds to those direct sources, and I would 

appreciate your support for the Pievsky amendment. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the minority whip. 

Mr. MANDERINO. Mr. Speaker, very briefly, I rise in 

support of the Pievsky amendment. The information that I 

have received from the Appropriation hearings is that the 

people from the Public Utility Commission, concerned about 

the Public Utility budget, had indicated that the Governor's 

proposal, which is in essence what we find in SB 681, took 

substantial cuts in the area of ratemaking and in the area of 

transportation and safety. When Mr. McClatchy says that the 

Pievsky amendment will in essence destroy the McClatchy 

amendment, it will only destroy the McClatchy amendment in 

that it will add an additional $200,000 to the money in the 

Public Utility budget and then it will take the entire amount 

being appropriated to the Public Utility Commission and 

place it in four categories. Now, those four categories are not 

all of the categories that one could conjure up to line-item the 

Public Utility budget. They are four major categories, and as 

the previous speakers supporting the amendment have indi- 

cated, this is going to be the only way that we can guarantee 

that the ratemaking process and the customer services process 

in the Public Utility Commission are going to be adequately 

funded. We have no protection putting all of the money in 

one line item that money will not be even further shifted from

the concerns of the public to other areas in the Public Utility 

budget that less concern the public. 

1 ask for an affirmative vote by all members of the 

Assembly, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. 



Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, we are at a tenuous posi- 

tion with the Public Utility Commission appropriation. 1 

think that the other body is somewhat hesitant-and that is 

mildly put-to give them the extra money that 1 have asked 

for. If indeed we separate out into different categories, it will 

be a further problem. 

Again, I have full faith in Mike Johnson and Sue 

Shanaman to do the job that must be done. We are not, under 

my amendment, laying off anyone, and 1 have full confidence 

that we could provide all the services necessary that we all 

want and need in the PUC. The Pievsky amendment does rip 

out my amendment-there is no question about that at all- 

and insert his, and that is the difference. Again, it depends on 

whose ox is being gored as to whether we want to give the 

present chairman discretion or not. I would hope, Mr. 

Speaker, that we defeat the Pievsky amendment. Thank you. 

MEMBER'S PRESENCE RECORDED 


Philadelphia, Mr. Richardson, who asks that his name be 

placed on the master roll call. 

CONSIDERATION OF SB 681 CONTINUED 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes, for the second time 

on the issue, the gentleman, Mr. Lloyd. 

Mr. LLOYD. Mr. Speaker, if 1 could, just a practical 

example of what is at stake with this amendment and with full 

funding of the rate procedure at the commission. 

I had the opportunity to try cases against the Pennsylvania 

Electric Company and Metropolitan Edison. In both of those 

cases, several million dollars which should have gone to utility 

customers rather than to utility stockholders were lost, and 

they were lost because we did not have the opportunity to get 

that argument through to somebody on the ALJ's staff or the 

ALJs themselves or on the commissioner's staff, in a way that 

they could understand it, because they were overwhelmed 

with the amount of work they could do. 

If we do not provide adequate funding for the staff of an 

administrative law judge in a major utility rate case, we are 

going to lose for utility customers in every case several million 

dollars. Just one specific example: In a Metropolitan Edison 

rate case, there was one adjustment worth a couple million 

dollars which we explained fully to the administrative law 

judge and which in his final order he forgot; he did not even 

answer our question or our argument one way or the other. 

We took that issue on appeal to the commission itself and laid 

out the arguments again. Once more because of inadequate 

staffing the issue was ignored. It was an issue which the 

commission had decided in favor of ratepayers in previous 

cases and one which absolutely, if the commission had been 


aware of it, would have been decided in favor of ratepayers in 

that case. 

We have got to provide adequate staffing over there if you 

do not want to be confronted with a situation in which your 

consumers are going to be paying millions of dollars which 

they should not have to pay. 1 would be one of the first people 

here to say let us go over there and clean house, and I am all 

for doing that, and there are going to be some opportunities, 

according to some amendments which have been circulated, 

that we can do that later in this session. But right now the 

important thing is to make sure that they have the money to 

do the job. 

We spend in this state, taking the Consumer Advocate and 

the PUC together, less than $20 million a year in rate regula- 

tion. At the present time the two general public utilities 

customers which are before the commission are asking for 

$325 million in higher rates each year. 

I think that the Pievsky amendment is a step in the right 

direction, and if we do not enact it, we are going to be paying 

a price for a long time to come. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Beaver, Mr. Laughlin. 

Mr. LAUGHLIN. Mr. Speaker, normally I would not 

disagree with the Appropriations Committee chairman, Mr. 

McClatchy, on issues of this particular type. But it has been 

my experience, Mr. Speaker, that Mr. McClatchy has failed to 

look at some of the past rate cases that have occurred just in 

this last year. I call attention specifically to the Bell Telephone 

and the Western Electric relationship. It took approximately 2 

years for the PUC to totally audit and track down the 

paperwork that was involved in that particular case. It saved 

the ratepayers of this state just short of $1 million on the 

excess costs that were involved. Mr. Speaker, at that time one 

of the investigators relayed to me the information that had 

they sufficient staff on that particular job, instead of $750 it 

would have been in excess of $2 million, but they did not have 

! adequate staff to look into the other avenues of Western Elec- 

tric's relationship with Bell Telephone. 

Mr. Speaker, in view of that, I cannot see how we can he so 

naive as to believe that an expenditure of $300,000 is not 

going to be beneficial to the department in saving the 

ratepayers of this state additional revenues. 

Mr. Speaker, 1 support the Pievsky amendment, and 1 ask 

for its oassaee. 

- 




Barber 

Belfanu 


Berson 

Blaum 

Borski 

Brown 

Caltagirane 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Clark 

Cochran 

Evans 

Fee 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gamble 

Grabowski 

Gray 

Greenfield 

Cruitza 

Haluska 

Hoeffel 

Hoigas 

Y EAS-96 

l.ucyk 

McCall 

Mclnlyre 

McMonagle 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Michlovic 

Miscevich 

Morris 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Rybak 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sleighner 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swairn 

Sweet 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue

('ohen 

Colaiella 

Cole 

Cordirco 

Coaell 

DcMedio 

DeWceie 

Dawida 

r>omhruwski 

Donarucci 

Duffy 

Emerhon 

Alden 

Andenon 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Belardi 

Bittle 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Rurd 

Burns 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clymer 

Cornell 

Cosletr 

Cunningham 

DeVriter 

Daikcler 

Da\.ies 

Dict7. 

Dininni 

Duir 

Durham 

Fischer 

Harper 

Hutchinson. A. Oliver 

Irvis Pendleton 

ltkin Pe1rari.a 

Kalrer I'rlrone 

Kowalyshyn Picvsk). 

Kukorich Piitcila 

ILaughlin Pratt 

Lescovitr Pucciarelll 

Letterman Rappaport 

Levin Richardson 

I.ivengood Rieger 

Lloyd Riltei 

NAYS-100 

Fleck McCIatchy 

Foster, W. W. McVerry 

Fastcr, Jr., A. \lackowski 

Frarler Madigan 

Frcind Manmiller 

Gallen Marnlion 

Gannon Merry 

Geist Micoz~ic 

Gladeck Miller 

Greenwood Mocl~lmann 

Grieco \lowry 

Gruppo Nahili 

Hagarty Noyr 

Haaay O'Donncll 

Hayes Pcr7cI 

Honaman Peterson 

Hutchinson, W. Phillips 

Jackson Piccola 

Johnson Pitts 

Kanuck Pott 

Kennedy Pun1 

Klingaman Rarco 

l ashinger Reber 

Lehr Rocks 

Lcvi Salvatore 

Lewis 

NOT VOTING-I 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Helier Olav 


Trello 

Van Hornc 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 


Wozniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Zwikl 

Sauiman 

Seraiini 

Sieminski 

Sirianiti 

Smitli, 8. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spcncer 

Spin 

Stairs 

Stevens 

Swift 

Taddanio 

Taylor. I:. L. 

Vi00" 

Wass 

Wenger 

Westan 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wright. J. 1.. 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

The question was determined in the negative, and the 

amendments were not agreed to. 



amended? 


The SPEAKER. This bill has been considered on three 

different days and agreed to and is now on final passage. 




YEAS-. 187 

Alden Fischcr Lucyk Rybak 

Anderson Fleck McCall Salratore 

Armsrrona Foster. W. W. McClatchv Saurman 

Any Foster. lr., 

Barber Frazier 

Belardi Freind 

Brlfanri Fryer 

Beloff Gallagher 

Berion Gallen 

Bittle Gamblc 

Borski Geist 

Bowsrr Gladeck 

A. hlclntyre Seraiini 

McMonagle Seventy 

McVerry Showers 

Mackowski Sierninrki 

Maiale Siiianni 

Mandcrino Smlth. H. 

Manmiller Smith. E. H. 

Marmion Smith. I.. E. 

Merry Snyder 

Boyes 

Biandt 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirune 

Cappabiaoca 

Cawiey 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

(ochran 

(.'ohen 

Colafella 

Colt 

Cordisco 

Corsrll 

Co5lett 

Cawell 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitra 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Hutchinson, A 

Hutchinson, W. 

lrvii 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kawalyshyn 

Kukavich 

- uu 

Lashineer 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowcry 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendlcton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Pctrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pralt 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wispins 

Ilictz L.aughlin Pucciarelli Williams, J. D. 

Dininn, Lehr Punt Wilson 

Uombrowrki 1.escovitz Rappaport Wogan 

Donalucc~ Letterman Rasco Wozniak 

Dorr Levi Reber Wright. D. R. 

Iluffy Levin Richardson Zwikl 

Iluiham Lcwis Rieger 

Emerson Livengood Ritter Ryan, 

Evans I.loyd Rocks Speakel 

Fcr 

NAY S-4 

Blaum Brown Dawida Hasay 

NOT VOTING-6 

Gannan Madigan Williams, H. Wright, J. L 

Gray Shupnik 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heiser Olasr 

The majority required by the Co~~stitution having voted in 

the affirmative, the question was determined in the affirmative. 




requested. 

REMARKS ON VOTE 


Philadelphia, Mr. O'Donnell. For what purpose does the 

gentleman rise? 

Mr. O'DONNELL. To correct the record, Mr. Speaker. I 

was inadvertently voted in the negative on the Pievsky amend- 

ment to SB 681. 1 would like to be recorded in the positive. 

Thank you. 

The SPEAKER. The remarks of the gentleman will be 

spread upon the record.


BILLS ON THIRD 

I 

CONSlDERATION CONTINUED 

The House proceeded to third consideration of HB 1645, 

PN 1924, entitled: 

A Supplement to the act of (P. L. , No. ), entitled 

"An act providing for the capital budget for the fiscal year 1981- 

1982," itemizing public improvement and furniture and equip- 

ment projects to be constructed or acquired by the Department of 

General Services, ***, stating the estimated useful life of the 

projects and making appropriations. 



Mr. LEVI offered the following amendments No. A2899: 


and insertine 

$57;287,000 

Amend Sec. I, page 6, line 27, by striking out 

"$7,371,000 $1,474,000 $10,405,000" and inserting 

$8,775,000 $1,630,000 $8,845,000 

Amend Sec. 1, page 8, by inserting between lines 2 and 3 

(3) Therapeutic Center 1,404,000 156,000 1,560.WO 


and inserting 

$55;703,000 

Amend Sec. 9, page 14, line 17, by striking out $54,143,000" 

and inserting 

$55,703,000 




Venango, Mr. Levi. 

Mr. LEVI. This is a request for funds of $1,560,000 to put 

in a therapeutic center at Polk Center. There has been a citi- 

zens advisory board for over 3 years working on this. They 

have an empty building at Polk Center that is available to put 

this facility in. I would ask the members of the House to 

support this worthy cause. Thank you, sir. 



The following roll call was recorded: I 

Alden 

Andercon 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Elelfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 

Foster, Jr., A. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Cannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Crieco 

Gruitza 

G~UPPO 

Hagarty 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Melntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderina 

Manmiller 

Marmian 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Mawery 

Mrkonie 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clvmel 

~dchran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslell 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Lewis 

Haluska Nahill 

Harper Noye 

Hasay O'Donnell 

Hayes Oliver 

Hoeffel Pendleton 

Honaman Perzel 

Horgas Peterson 

Hutchinson, A. Petrarca 

Hutchinson, W. Petrone 

Irvis Phillips 

ltkin Piceola 

Johnson Pievsky 

Kanuck Pistella 

Kennedy Pills 

Klingaman Pot( 

Kolter Pratt 

Kowalyshyn Pucciarelli 

Kukovich Punt 

Lashinger Rappaport 

Laughlin R~SCO 

Lehr Reber 

Lescovitz Richardson 

Letterman Rieger 

Levi Ritter 

Levin Racks 

Livengoad Rybak 

Lloyd 

NAYS-I 

NOT VOTING-4 

Gray Jackson Morris Vroon 

EXCUSED-4 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Deal George Heiser Ola~z 





amended? 

Mr. LUCYK offered the following amendments No. 

A2500: 

Amend Sec. 1. Daze . - 2. line 1, bv strikina out "$55.727.000" 

and inserting 

$63.527.000 

Amend Sec. 1, page 6, line 27, by striking out all of said line 

and inserting 

Welfare $13,671,000 $2,974,000 $16,645,000 

Amend Sec. I, page 8, by inserting between lines 8 and 9 

(I) Locust Mountain 

State Hospital 

(I) Renovation 

and Addition 

to Hosoital 

~uilding and 

Nurses Home 6.300.000 1.500.000 7.800.000 

Amend Sec. 6, page 13, line?, b; striking o"t "$54,143,600" 

and inserting 

$61,943,000 


and inserting 

$61,943,000 




Schuylkill, Mr. Lucyk.


Mr. LUCYK. Mr. Speaker, back in 1968 the legislature 

appropriated approximately $3 million for the renovation of 

Locust Mountain State Hospital. Subsequent to that the 

administration talked the hoard of governors into not using 

that money and building a new hospital. The money has sat 

there over a period of about 12 years. The administration has 

neglected the hospital over these 12 years with no money being 

spent in renovations. 

What my amendment does is appropriate $7.8 million, 

based on the $3 million appropriated in 1968, based on infla- 

tion, so that the hospital could be renovated and, if necessary 

after renovations, turned hack to the local community. 

ANNOUNCEMENT BY SPEAKER 

The SPEAKER. 1 would like the members to listen to this 

announcement, particularly those members who are offering 

amendments to HB 1645. 

The amendments that have been prepared by the Legislative 

Reference Bureau in each instance carry a total figure for the 

budget in the amount of $55 million, $60 million, $65 million. 

The problem that the Parliamentarian and 1 have-and we 

have conferred with the majority and minority leaders-as 

each amendment is offered, this total will change. We are 

suggesting to those of you who are offering amendments that 

in each case the question be divided so that we exclude from 

the offering the total amount, and with the understanding of 

the House, as your amendments are offered, I will automat- 

ically divide that question. I will announce the division, but 1 

suggest, do not be alarmed at my dividing the question on 

your amendments. It is a step that must necessarily be taken 

to be logical and consistent in the handling of the entire bill. 

PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY 

Mr. RITTER. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state his point of 

parliamentary inquiry. 

Mr. RITTER. When we are all finished with the amendment 

process, at that point will someone offer an amendment 

for what would then he the total amount of the authorization? 

The SPEAKER. We have discussed that, Mr. Ritter, and 

the suggestion is that that can he done, or if we are interested 

in processing it, we can allow the bill as amended to speak for 

itself as to the total. We are 14 or I5 amendments away from 

having to make that decision, however. 

Mr. RITTER. All right, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair, in conference with the majority 

and minority leaders, the Parliamentarian, and the Legislative 

Reference Bureau, has made a determination that in the case 

of the capital budget, the amendments will be offered and the 

Legislative Reference Bureau will make such adjustments, 

where there is an area of conflict, as are necessary for the hill 

Representative offers his or her amendment, that there not be 

any need for extended debate as to why the amendment is 

needed. We are prepared to agree to that amendment, all of 

those that are listed currently as amendments to HB 1645 with 

just one exception. The massive amendment which is to be 

offered with regard to mass transit would be not handled in 

the same way hut rather discussed on the floor of this House 

of Representatives. But it would certainly curtail the necessity 

of long hours here this afternoon on HB 1645 and, too, HB 

1687 if we could handle the amendments in that way - accept 

all the amendments without debate. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair thanks the gentleman. 

The Chair recognizes the minority leader. 


Speaking for the Democratic Party, we agree with the 

majority leader, but if there is anyone who has an objection to 

a particular amendment-each amendment will be read; you 

will have them distributed-if there is anybody who ha. a 

specific objection, then that person should rise and object to 

it. Otherwise, I will announce that the amendment is agreed 

to, without debate, so that we may speed up this move, under- 

standing that we are not accepting without debate the SEPTA 

- Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority - and 

the PAT - Port Authority Transit - amendments. They are too 

enormous for us to accept without debate, but all the others 

we will accept without debate unless there be objection. 



The question before the House is, will the House agree to 

the amendments offered by the gentleman from Schuylkill. 

Mr. Lucyk? 




YEAS-192 

Alden Fee McCall Salvatore 

Anderson Fischer McClatchy Saurman 

Armstrong Fleck Mclntyre Serafini 

Arty Foster, W. W. McMonagle Seventy 

Barber Foster, Jr., A. McVerry Showers 

Belardi Frazier Mackowski Shupnik 

Belfanti Fryer Madigan Sieminrki 

Belaff Gallagher Maiale Sirianni 

Berson 

Bittle 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Smith. 6. 

Smith, E. H. 

Blaurn Gannon Marmion Smith, L. E. 

Borski Geist Merry Snyder 

Bowser Gladeck Michlovic Spencer 

Boyes Grabowski Micovie Spitz 

Brand1 Greenfield Miller Stairs 

Brown Greenwood Miscevich Steighner 

Burd Grieca Moehlmann Stevens 

Burns Gruitza Morris Stewart 

Caltagirone Gruppo Mowery Stuban 

Cappabianca Hagany Mrkonic Swaim 

Cawlev ~~, Haluska Mullen sweet 

as amended to be loaical. - 

( Cersar 

Cimini 

The Chair recognizes the majority leader 

Clark 

Mr. HAYES. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Clymcr 

In conference with the minority leader, we have decided Cochran 

I Cohen 

that there would be no disagreement on our parts if when the 

Colafella 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Hutchinson. A. 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Cole Hutchinson. W. Peterson Van Home


Cordisco l~is Petrarca Vroon 

Cornell ltkin Petrone Wachob 

Coslett Jackson Phillips Wambach 

Cowell Johnson Piccola Wargo 

Cunningham Kanuck Pievsky Wass 

DeMedio Kennedy Pistella Wenger 

DeVerter Klingaman Pitts Weston 

DeWeese Koller Pott While 

Daikeler Kawalyshyn Pratt Wiggins 

Davies Kukavich Pucciarelli Williams, H. 

Dawida Lashinger Punt Williams, I. D. 

Dietz Laughlin Rappapon Wilson 

Dininni Lehr Rasco Wogan 

Dambrowski Lescovitz Reber Wazniak 

Donatucci Letterman Richardson Wright, D. R. 

Dorr Levi Rieger Zwikl 

Duffy Levin Ritter 

Durham Livengood Racks Ryan. 

Emerson Lloyd Rybak Speaker 

Evans Lucyk 

NAYS-0 

NOT VOTING-5 

Civera Gray Lewis Wright, J. L. 

Freind 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heiser Olasz 





amended? 

Mr. FRAZlER offered the following amendments No. 

A2913: 


and inserting 

$55;877,000 

Amend Sec. I, page 5, line 25, by striking out all of said line 

and inserting 

Commission $425.000 $91.000 $516.@30 

Amend Sec. I, page 6, by inserting between lines 6 and 7 

(D) Fort Pit Museum 

(1) Additional 

Storage for 

Cannons and 

Dressing Room, 

Lockers and 

Toilet/Showers 

Facility for 

100 Personnel 

of Royal American 

Regiment (Fort Pitt) 

Museum Associates, 

Inc.) 120,000 30,000 150,000 


and inserting 

$54,293,000 

Amend Sec. 9, page 14, line 17, by striking out $54,143,000" 

and inserting 

$54,293,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Borski 

Bawser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brawn 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Calafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cawell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietr 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Blaum 

Letterman 

Evans Lucyk 

Fee McCall 

Fischer McClatchy 

Fleck Mclntyre 

Faster, W. W. McMonagle 

Foster, Jr., A. McVerry 

Frazier Mackowski 

Freind Madigan 

Fryer Maiale 

Gallagher Manderina 

Gallen Manmiller 

Gamble Marmion 

Gannon Merry 

Ceist Michlovic 

Gladeck Micazzie 

Grabowski Miller 

Greenfield Miscevich 

Greenwood Moehlmann 

Grieca Mrkonic 

Gruitza Mullen 

Gruppo Murphy 

Hagany Nahill 

Haluska Naye 

Harper O'Donnell 

Hasay Oliver 

Hayes Pendleton 


Horgas Peterson 

Hutchinson, A. Petrarca 


lwis Phillips 

ltkin Piccola 

Jackson Pievsky 

lohnson Pins 

Kennedy Pott 

Klingaman Pratl 

Kolter Pucciarelli 

Kowalyshyn Punt 

Kukovich Rappapon 

Lashinger Rasco 

Laughlin Reber 

Lehr Richardson 

Lescovitz Rieger 

Levi Ritter 

Levin Rocks 

Livengood Rybak 

I.loyd Salvatore 

NAYS-5 

Morris Pistella 

NOT VOTING-5 

Saurman 

Seralini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spit* 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Slewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swifl 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Widns 

Williams, H. 

Williams, J. D. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Worniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Wachob 

Gray Kanuck Lewis Mowery 

Hoeffel 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. WOZNIAK offered the following amendments No. 

A2807: 

Amend Sec. 1, page 2, line 21, by striking out all of said lme 

and inserting 

Resources $6,524,000 $1,033,000 $7,557,000


Daikeler Kolter Pott Wians On the question, 

Davies Kowalyshyn Pratt Williams. H. Will the House agree to the amendments? 

Dawida Kukavich Pucciarelli Wilson 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Blaum 

Lashinger Punt Wogan 

Laughlin Rappapon Wazniak 

Lehr Rasco Wright, D. R. 

Lescovitz Reber Wright, J. L. 

Levi Richardson Zwikl 

Levin Rieger 

Livengood Ritter Ryan, 

Lloyd Rocks Speaker 

NAYS-2 

Wachob 

NOT VOTING-5 

Gray Letterman Lewis Williams. J. D. 

Kanuck 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Hciser Olasz 




Will the House agree to the hill on third consideration as 

amended? 

(ix) Lock 

Haven 181,900 

(x) Mans- 

field 93.500 

(xi) Millers- 

ville 336,920 

(xii) Shippens- 

burg 120,000 

(xiii) Slippery 

Rock 108,330 

(xiv) West 

Chester 513,MM 

Amend Sec. 6, page 13, line 7, by striking out "54,143,000" 

and inserting 

REMARKS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD 

The SPEAKER. It is the understanding of the Chair that 

the gentleman from Washington, Mr. DeMedio, is submitting 

remarks for the record. 

Mr. DeMEDIO. 1 just want to present for the record and 

for the benefit of the Governor's Office some remarks on this 

amendment and why it should not be line-vetoed. Thank you, 

Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. DeMEDlO submitted the following remarks for the 

Legislative Journal: 

This amendment provides a capital authorization of $5,657,000 

for roof reconstruction at the state-owned colleges and univer- 

sity. 

Last fall when we were addressing a capital budget, we were all 

asked to identify particular problem areas in our districts. A 

common complaint that we soon discovered was the deterioration 

of the roofs at the state colleges. We found that the roofs were so 

bad that many of them were already leaking and that some of 

them were so bad that parts of buildings had been rendered 

Mr. DeMEDlO offered the following amendments No. 

A2564: 

unusable. 

When we passed that capital budget, Mr. Speaker, we included 

over $5 million for the reconstruction of those roofs. 

Amend Sec. 1, page 2, line 2, by striking out "$55,727,000" When the Governor signed that capital budget, however, he 

and inserting 

deleted the items for roof reconstruction. His reasoning, Mr. 

$61,378,000 

Speaker, was that the projects were maintenance or repair in 

Amend Sec. I, page 2, line 8, by striking out "$6,804,000" nature and were intended to preserve or repair existing facilities 

and inserting 

rather than make a capita! improvement or betterment to them! 

$12,461,000 

Mr. Speaker, I maintain that when a roof deteriorates to the 


(2) Roof Reconstruction 5,657,000 

point that it is leaking and causing damage to the interior of the 

structure or has caused a part of the structure to be unusable, we 

To be Allocated as 

are no longer dealing with a simple maintenance project. 

Follows: 

There are individual roofs included in the $5.6 million that 

(0 Blooms- 

have a cost of two to three hundred thousand dollars. We all 

burg $561,252 know that our state colleges do not have the flexibility in their 

(ii) Cali- 

operating budgets to fund these kinds of projects. 

fornia 905,339 Since these projects have a life expectancy of 20 years, it makes 

(iii) Cheyney 128,400 good fiscal sense to get the projects done and stop the deterio- 

(iv) Clarion 118,061 ration that is taking place and the related increasing costs that 

(9 East Strouds- 

accompany the deterioration. 

burg 90,693 Mr. Speaker, both the Department of Education and the 

(vi) Edin- 

Commission for State Colleges have assured us that there have 

(vii) 

boro 

Indiana 

1,640,000 

680,124 

been no repairs to the projects that were authorized but vetoed in 

the fall. In fact, they are in even worsecondition today! 

(viii) Kutz- 

This amendment reflects that list of projects. 

town 67,682 Mr. Soeaker. I ask for an affirmative vote on the amendment. 

$59300,000 

Amend Sec. 9, page 14, line 17, by striking out "1654,143,000" 

and inserting 

$59,800,000 




YEAS-188 

Alden Evans Lloyd Rybak 

Anderson Fee Lucyk Salvatore 

Armstrong Fischer McCall Serafni 

Any Fleck McClatchy Seventy 

Barber Faster, W. W. Mclntyre Showers 

Belardi Foster, Jr., A. McMonaglc Shupnik 

Belfanti Frazier McVerry Sieminski 

Beloff Freind Mackowski Sirianni 

Berson Fryer Madigan Smith. 8. 

Bittle Gallagher Maiale Smith. E. H. 

Borski Gallen Manderina Smith. L. E. 

Bowser Gamblc Manmiller Snyder

Boyes Cannon Marmion Spencer 

Brandt Geist Merry Spitz 

Brown Gladeck Michlovic Stairs 

Burd Grabowski Micozzic Steighner 

Burns Greenfield Miller Slevens 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Cualett 

Cawell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dielz 

Dininni 

Dornbrowski 

Donatucci 

Darr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Blaum 

Gray 

Kanuck 

Greenwood Miscevich 

Grieca Maehlmann 

Gruitza Morris 

Gruppa Mowery 

Hagarty Mrkanic 

Haluska Mullen 

Harper Murphy 

Hasay Nahill 

Hayes Noye 

Hoeffel O'Dannell 

Honaman Oliver 

Horgos Pendleton 

Hutchinson, A. Perzel 

Hutchinson, W. Peterson 

lrvis Petrarca 

ltkin Petrone 


Johnson Piccola 

Kennedy Pievsky 

Klingaman Pistella 

Kalter Pitts 



Lashinger Pucdarelli 

Laughlin Punt 

Lehr Rasca 

Lescovitz Reber 


Levi Ritter 

Levin Rocks 

Livengood 

NAYS-2 

Wachob 

NOT VOTING- 

Lewis Richardson 

Rappaport Saurman 

EXCUSED-4 


-7 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trella 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wrighl, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 







amended? 

Mr. IRVIS offered the following amendments No. A2732: 


and insertins 

%71:371,000 


and inserting 

Education $18.707.000 $3.741.000 $22.448.000 . . 

Amend Sec. I, page 2,by inserting between lines 18 and 19 

(2) University of 

Pittsburgh, Medical 

Research 

Facility 13,037,000 2,607,000 15,644,000 




Allegheny, Mr. Murphy. 

Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, I would like to interrogate 

Mr. lrvis on this amendment, please. 

The SPEAKER. The minority leader indicates he is willing 

to he interrogated. . The gentleman, Mr. Murphy, may 

proceed. 

Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, could you please describe 

what this money will be used for? 

Mr. IRVIS. Yes, Mr. Speaker. This money is designed to 

rebuild the University of Pittsburgh medical research facility, 

which is the research facility used for antipolio research. It 

has not been rebuilt in the last 50 years. The gentleman's question, 

I think, alludes to the fact that the medical research 

facility uses animals, as of course it does, in its research. This 

is an animal research medical facility. 

Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, is the experimentation in this 

facility primarily done on animals? 

Mr. IRVIS. Yes, Mr. Speaker, that is true. 

Mr. MURPHY. Okay. Thank you. 

Mr. Speaker, I would like to make a few comments. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman is in order and may 

proceed. 

Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, I very simply ask the 

members to oppose this legislation. I do not feel that we want 

in this Commonwealth in this day and age to continue to 

condone the experimentation on living creatures, such as dogs 

and monkeys and cats and those kinds of creatures, when 

there are alternative methods of experimentation available to 

people through various kinds of cultures and things like that, 

so I ask you to oppose this amendment. Thank you. 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Belaff 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirane 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

1 Cole 

Cordisca 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Foster. W. W. 

Foster. Jr., A. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

cannon 

Ceist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Crieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluaka 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgas 


Hutchinson. W. 

lrvis 

YEAS-182 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Nahill 

Noyc 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddooio 

Taylor. E. 2. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass

1264 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL-HOUSE 

Cowell Jackson Pievsky Wenger 

Cunningham Johnson Pistella Weston 

DeMedio Kennedy Pitts White 

DeVerter Kolter Pott Wiggins 

DeWeese Kowalyshyn Pratt Williams, I. D. 

Daikeler Kukovich Pucciarelli Wilson 

Davies Lashinger Punt Wogan 

Dawida Laughlin Rappapan Wozniak 

Dietr Lehr Rasco Wright, D. R. 

Dininni Lescovitz Reber Wright. J. L. 

Dombrowski Leuerman Rieger Zwikl 

Donatucei Levi Ritter 

Dorr Levin Rocks Ryan, 

Duffy Livengood Rybak Speaker 

NAYS-I I 

Brown ltkin Michlovic Wachob 

Fleck Klingaman Murphy Williams, H. 

Greenwood Lloyd Serafini 

NOT VOTING-4 

Gray Kanuck Lewis Richardson 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heiser Olasz I 





amended? 

Mr. MANDERINO offered the following amendments No. 

A2698: 

Blaum Gallen 

Borski Gamble 

Bawser Cannon 

Boyes Geist 

Brandt Gladeck 

Brown Grabowski 

Burd Greenfield 

Burns Greenwood 

Caltagirone Grieco 

Cappabianca Gruitza 

Cawley Gruppo 

Cessar Hagany 

Cimini Haluska 

Civera Harper 

Clark Hasay 

Clymer Hayes 

Cochran Hoeffel 

Cohen Honaman 

Colafella Hargos 

Cole Hutchinson, A. 

Cordisco Hutchinsan, W. 

Cornell 

Cosleu 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapon 

Rasco 

Reber 

Ricger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

R ybak 

NAYS-I 

JUNE 30, 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Swneer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Williams. I. D. 

Wilson ~~~ 

wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 


and inserting 

$56;662,000 

Amend Sec. 1. oaee 2. . line 8. . bv . strikine " out "%h.XM.W" 

and inserting 

Wachob 

$7.739.000 

~mend~ec: 1, page 2, by inserting between lines 18 and 19 

(2) Westmoreland 

Gray 

NOT VOTING-3 

Kanuck Richardson 

County Community 

College: 

Construction 

Dcal George 

EXCUSED-4 

Heiser Olasz 

of Training 

Center for 

Emergency 



Services 797,000 138,000 935,000 


and inserting 

$55,078,000 




amended? 

Mr. A. K. HUTCHINSON offered the following amendand 

inserting 

ments No. A2537: 

$55,078,000 



and insertine 


$59:868,000 



and inserting 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Bcloff 

Berson 

Bittle 

YEAS-193 

Evans Lloyd 

Fee Lucyk 

Fischer McCall 

Fleck McClatchy 

Foster, W. W. Mclntyre 

Foster, Jr., A. McMonagle 

Frazier McVerry 

Freind Mackawski 

Fryer Madigan 

Gallagher Maiale 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Education $9,121,000 $1,824,000 $10,945,000 

Amend Sec. I. page 2. by inserting between lines 18 and 19 

(2) University 

of Pittsburgh, 

Greensburg, 

Common 

Facilities 

Building 

and Parking 

Lot 3,451,000 690.000 4,141,000


-- 


and inserting 

$58,284,000 


and inserting 

$58,284,000 


Will the Houseagree to the amendments? 


Alden 

Anderson 

Acmstrong 

An? 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Belaff 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bawser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Calafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedia 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatueci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Wachob 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Faster, W. 

Foster, Jr., 

Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Cannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Cruilza 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Haeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Hutchinson. 

Hutchinson, 

Ilkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klinaaman 

~oltir 

Kawalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

YEAS-192 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

W. McMonagle 

A. McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micorzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowcry 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

A. Peterson 

W. Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

Pott 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapon 

Rasco 

Reber 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

NOT VOTING-4 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitr 

stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swairn 

Sweet 

SwiR 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

. 

Williams. H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wriaht. J. L. 

Ryan. 

Speaker 

Gray lrvis Kanuck 

EXCUSED-4 

Richardson 




I , 

/ insertin%) 


Will the House agree - to the bill on third consideration as 

amended? 

Mr. BELFANTI offered the following amendments No. 

A2620: 

Amend Sec. I, page 2, line 2, by striking out "$55,727,000" 

and inserting 

$57,061,000 

Amend Sec. I, page 6, line 27, by striking out 

"$7,371,000 $1,474,000 $8,845,000"andinserting 

$8,483,000 $1,696,000 $10,179,000 


(B) Ashland State 

General 

Hospital 

1 I) Intensive 

aid Cardiac 

Care Unit 302.000 60.000 362.000 

Amend Sec. I, page 7, line 4, by striking but "(By and 

inserting 

(C) 

Amend Sec. I, page 7, line 9, by striking out "(C)" and 

inserting 

(D) 

1 -(E) 

~?e"d Sec. 1, page 7, line 13, by striking out "(D)" and 

lnsert~ne 

Amend Sec. 1, page 7, line20, by striking out ''0'' and 

Amend Sec. 1, page - 7, line 24, by striking out "0" and 

~ 

inserting 

(G) 


(H) Shamokin State 

General Hospital 

(I) Air Conditioning 

(2) Expansion of X-ray 

150,000 30.000 180.000 

Department 

(3) Renovation of Two 

Wards into Private 

and Semiprivate 

200,000 40,000 t10.000 

Rooms 460,000 92,000 552,000 

Amend Sec. 1, page 8, line 3, by striking out "(G)" and 

inserting 

(1) 

Amend Sec. 1, page 8, line 7, by striking out "(H)" and 

inserting 

(J) 

Amend Sec. 6, page . . 13, line 7, by striking out "$54,143,000" 

and inserting 

$55,477,000 


I and inserting 

$55,477,000 




Northumberland, Mr. Belfanti. 

Mr. BELFANTI. Mr. Speaker, Representative Hutchinson 

and 1 have cosponsored this amendment to restore into the 

capital budget some much-needed funds for two state hospitals 

in our respective districts. 

I will let Representative Hutchinson speak on the moneys 

for Ashland State Hospital. However, Shamokin State


Hospital is requesting three items which would pay for them- 

selves in a very short time. 

Item No. 3 of the amendment, the largest item, is for half a 

million dollars, which would enable the hospital to increase its 

patient complement. The hospital now has two wards which 

are unused but are being counted as unused beds by the Secre- 

tary of Welfare. In 1981, with second- and third-party payers, 

no one is willing to lie in a room with 8 or 10 beds with no 

toilet facilities. 

Item No. 2 is replacement of 30-year-old X-ray equipment, 

which had a 10-year life span when it was purchased. 

And item No. 1 is for air conditioning in the only section of 

the hospital where patients are put once the air-conditioned 

sections are used. 

Mr. Speaker, all of these are cost-effective, and I wish to 

remind the House that even by DPW - Department of Public 

Welfare - figures, both Shamokin and Ashland State have 

always turned in a profit to the Commonwealth. Last year 

Ashland State made over $460,000, and Shamokin State made 

over $260,000 profit. If this amendment is adopted, those 

figures will increase drastically. I ask for adoption of the 

amendment. 

Dietz Laughlin Pucciarelli Wozniak 

Dininni Lehr Punt Wright, D. R. 

Dombrawski Lescovitr Ra~papoR Wrist. I. L. 

Donatucci Letterman Rasco Zwikl 

Dorr Levi Reber 

Duffy Levin Rieger Ryan, 

Durham Lewis Ritter Speaker 

NAYS-3 

Fryer Spencer Wachob 

NOT VOTING-4 

Gray Kanuck Richardson Williams, I. D 

EXCUSED-4 







YEAS-IW 

Alden Emerson Livengood Rocks 



amended? 

Mr. KUKOVICH offered the following amendments No. 

A2618: 

Amend Sec. 1. page 2, line 2, by striking out "$55,727,000" 

and inserting 

$28,727,000 


and insertine 

$4,Y13,000 

Amend Sec. I, page 5, lines II through 16, by striking out all 

of said lines ~~~~.. 

Amend Sec. 1. Daae 5. line 17, by striking out "(D)" and 

Anderson 

Armstrona - 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Reloff 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

&yes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirane 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWee~e 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Fruier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Cannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hwffcl 

Hanarnan 

Horgos 

Hutchinson, A. 


lrvis 

Itkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Lloyd 

Lucvk 

~ceall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miacevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendletan 

Perrel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Ticue 

~ ~ i 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

l 

inserting 

I"\ 

\-, 

Amend Sec. 6, page 13, line 7. by striking out "$54,143,000" 

and inserting 

$27,143,000 


and inserting 

$27,143,000 




Westmoreland, Mr. Kukovich. 


I think it is interesting that this is probably the only amendment 

that wants to save money and cut money out of this 

document rather than add money. Basically what the amendment 

does is remove roughly $27 million-$27,143,000 to be 

exact-from the section of the capital budget bill that 

provides that money for constructing a new prison facility and 

approximately 500 cells in Graterford in Montgomery 

Counrv. - - ~~~~. 

~ ~ Now, Mr. Speaker, I am not saying that that is necessarily a 

bad idea. What I am saying is that at this point in time the 

circumstances are such that it would be rash and fiscally irresponsible 

to vote to do that in this document. Basically, the 

$27-million figure at an 8-percent payback over the 30-year 

period of the bond, conservatively now we are talking about 

$60 million that we would have to pay back. I have checked 

those figures with two different staff sources, and those are 

conservative figures, so we are talking about a large expendi-


ture of tax money down the road which the long-term 

prognostications by the Bureau of Correction and by almost 

every agency involved with prison reform show will not be 

necessary in this Commonwealth. 

Now, there is no doubt that currently we are facing a slight 

overcrowding problem. As a matter of fact, there are 73 cells 

that have been doubled up, but I would note that nobody has 

stayed in one of those cells for longer than 3 weeks. Those 

have basically been the diagnostic units where an inmate first 

goes when he enters a prison. I think what we have to 

remember also is that in the general appropriations budget 

which we just passed, we provided for a total of 306 new cells, 

which would take care of the current problem anyway. 

Mr. Speaker, apart from the cell renovations, there are 80 

new community service beds provided by the general appro- 

priations budget. There are 40 trailer beds and forestry 

camps. That in and of itself should takecareof the short-term 

program. I simply do not want us to spend all this money 

down the road, which it will take at least 3 years to complete, 

and then find ourselves stuck with a huge tau bill for a facility 

we do not need. For those reasons and others that I will not 

state, I think we need this amendment. I would appreciate 

your support. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the majority leader. 


Obviously there must be consideration given to our penal 

system as to its current capacity and, if it is not sufficient, 

what to do about that. There is some concern in this House of 

Representatives as to whether or not the right site has been 

suggested. There are not answers definitively to inquiries 

which have been made, and at this time there is a view by 

many persons directly affected on this side of the aisle that the 

Kukovich amendment should be adopted. That is not to say 

that support for the gentleman's amendment today is to he 

interpreted as a signal that there is not to be a review of our 

penal system with regard to capacity. There are problems and 

they must be addressed, but on this day there are many 

members on this side of the aisle who have a concern as to the 

recommended site. Therefore, we urge support of the 

Kukovich amendment. 


Centre, Mr. Letterman. 

Mr. LETTERMAN. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker. I rise to oppose the Kukovich amendment. I 

~ ~ 

think they picked the proper site. I do not want them in 

central Pennsylvania. Let them stay there. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the lady from 

Montgomery, Mrs. Lewis. 

Mrs. LEWIS. Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the Kukovich 

amendment. Graterford is in my district, and I fully recognize 

the need for some additional beds and so forth. However, $22 

million is a lot to appropriate, and our delegation was not 

even consulted, nor were the residents of our community, and 

they are very much concerned about the security at Graterford 

as it presently is being handled now. So I would appreciate 

your support of the Kukovich amendment. Thank you. 


Centre, Mr. Letterman. 

Mr. LETTERMAN. I told you why they did not want it 

done. All you have to do is read it; it is plain. That is where 

most of the crimes are being committed. Let them keep them 

there. I do not want them up in central Pennsylvania. Let 

them keep them down there. 



Philadelphia, Mr. White. 

Mr. WHITE. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Along with taking exception to my good colleague's 

comments from Centre County, I would like to submit these 

comments for the record. 

Mr. WHITE submitted the following remarks for the Legis- 

lative Journal: 



June 23, 1981 

MEMO 

Subject: House Bill 1645. P.N. 1924 - Capital Budget funds 

for building a new state prison 

To: Hon. John. White 

From: Sam McClea. Judiciary Committee Staff 

There are generally different types of solutions proposed 

whenever aprison system exceeds capacity. 

1. Build more prisons and increase the number of cells. 

2. Establish priorities as to which offenders you desire 

to incarcerate and provide alternative programs for 

the ~~~~ more ~~ minor offenders. 

Because the state prison system has exceeded its capacity and has 

begun to double cell (146 inmates as of 6/19/81), this becomes a 

timely issue in Pennsylvania. 

In deciding which of the two directions to go in solving the overcrowding 

problem, a series of factors needs to be considered: 

1. How many more cells have we provided for in the 

1981-82 General Budget? 

Answer: 186 cell renovations, 80 community-service 

beds,^ trailer beds for forestry camp. Total of 306, plus 

the use of trailers at Camp Hill for the drug treatment 

program will free up one complete cell block of 125 more 

cells. This combined with the 306 cells brings the total to 

431 cells. 

What are the factors that indicate whether or not 

more prison cells are needed and, if so, how many 

and for how long? 

a) Prison: The Bureau of 

Correction's oroiections suaaest they will need 

another 500 t6600 cells on topof what provided in 

the 1981-82 budget. 

b) The projections by the Pennsylvania Commission 

on Crime and Delinquency for the next two decades 

suggest that the overcrowding should peak between 

1985 and 1990 and that new prisons should not be 

built, but rather temporary alternatives be developed. 

c) General population figures for the crime prone 

age group (18-34) in Pennsylvania will be declining 

substantially over the next decade.

3 Whdl other changes In the cr~mlnal Justl~e 

may be rub

NOT VOTING-5 

Bowser Gray Kanuck Wilson 

Daviea 

EXCUSED-4 







amended? 

Mr. ROCKS offered the following amendments No. 

A2604: 


and inserting 

$23,508,751 


(2) South Hills 

Light Rail 

~~hicles 

Stage I-B 

(3) South Hills 

Light Rail 

Transit System 

3,640,000 360,000 4,000,000 

State I-A 

(4) Monongahela 

Incline 

3,000,000 300,000 3,300,000 

Rehabilitation 

(5) Avalon Bridge 

127,780 12,637 140.417 

Repair 

(6) Ben Avon 

38.220 3,780 42,000 

Bridge Repair 

(7) Equipment and 

Fixed Facilities 

~~~ ~~ 

38,220 3,780 42,000 

Phase VI1 

(8) Support Vehicles 

328,000 33,167 361,167 

Phase VII 515,212 50,955 566,167 


(2) Brill Arsenal 

Track Modifications 

Airport Hi-Speed 

Line 333.000 33.000 366.000 

(3) Frankford Elevated 

Enaineerine 

~e&n - 230,000 

(4) CCTU - 

23,000 253,000 

Escalation 333,000 33,000 366,000 

. . 

(5) 30th Street 

Station 

Rehabilitation 1,300,000 130,000 1,430.000 

Amend Sec. 3, page I I, by inserting between lines 25 and 26 

(2) Marked Frankford 

Elevated Cars - 

General Overhaul 1,459,000 146,000 1,605,000 

(3) Fire Prevention/ 

Passenger Safety 

Market/Frankford 

and Broad Street 

Subway 250,000 25,000 275.000 

(4) Utility Fleet 

Renewal 400.000 40.000 440.000 

(5) North East Bus/ 

Garage Land 

Acquisition/Site 

Development 583,000 58,000 641,000 

(6) FRA Mandated 

Car Modernization 

Commuter Rail 

Eauioment 50.000 5,000 55,000 

(7) ~ubwHy Surface 

Station Modernization - 

West Philadelphia 

Liaht Rail Lines 

(8) P.C.C. Car 

Rehabilitation 

1.000.000 100,000 1.100,000 

Escalation 

(9) Buildings and 

Electrical 

783,000 78,000 861,000 

Modernization 167.000 17.000 184,000 

(10) Commuter Rail Car 

Rehabilitation 633,000 63,000 696,000 


and inserting 

$23,508,751 


and inserting 

$23,508,751 



The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the minority leader. 

Mr. IRVIS. Mr. Speaker, I wish to apologize to the 

members and to correct the record. 

When I was explaining my reason for accepting the SEPTA 

and the Port Authority amendments, I said that the sum was 

an exorbitant sum or an extraordinarily high sum4 have 

forgotten my exact words. At the moment when I spoke, I was 

under the impression that SEPTA and PAT were asking for 

$100 million, which I considered to be a ridiculously high sum 

of money and therefore debatable. 1 have now been informed 

accurately by our staff people-and I believe the majority 

leader has had the same information-that the SEPTA part of 

the package would amount to $6.5 million approximately and 

the Port Authority's part would be $9.0 million approxi- 

marely, for about $15 1/2 million. I do not consider that to be 

the exorbitant sum of money which $100 million would he, 

and, therefore, I would support this amendment and urge that 

the other members do likewise. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 




YEAS-176 

Alden Durham Lucyk Salvatore 

Anderson Emerson McCall Saurman 

Armstrong Evans McClatchy Serafini 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Fee 

Fleck 

Faster. Jr., A. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Cannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitra 

Cruppo 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micouie 

Miller 

Miscevieh 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swat 

Swift


Cessar Hagarty Noye Taddonia 

Cimini Haluska O'Donnell Taylor. E. 2. 

Civera Harper Oliver Taylor. F. E. 

Clark Hasay Pendleton Telek 

Clymer Hayes Perzel Tigue 

Cochran Honaman Petrarca Trcllo 

Cohen Horgos Petrone Van Horne 

Colafella Hutchinson, A. Phillips Vroon 

Cole Hutchinson. W. Piccola War go 

Cordisco Irvis Pievsky Wass 

Cornell ltkin Pistella Wcnger 

Coslett Jackson Pitt~ Weston 

Cowell Johnson Pott White 

Cunningham Kanuck Pratt Wiggins 

DeMedio Kennedy Pucciarelli Williams, H. 

DeVener Kolter Punt Williams, J. D. 

DeWeese Kowalyshyn Rappaport Wogan 

Daikeler Kukovich Rasco Wazniak 

Davies Lashinger Reber Wright. D. R. 

Dawida Laughlin Richardson Wright, 1. L. 

Dietz Lehr Rieger Zwikl 

Dombrowski Lescovitr Ritter 

Donatucci Levin Rocks Ryan, 

Dorr Livengood Rybak Speaker 

Duffy Lloyd 

NAYS-16 

Diuinni Klingaman Marmion Sieminski 

Fischer Letterman Moehlmann Stairs 

Foster, W. W. Levi Morris Wachob 

Fryer Manmiller Peterson Warnbaeh 

NOT VOTING-5 

Blaum Hoeffcl Lewis Wilson 

Gray 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. McCLATCHY offered the following amendments No. 

A293 1 : 

Amend Sec. I, page 2, line 2, by striking out "$55,727,000" 

and insert in^ 

$67;667,000 


and inserting 

Education $16.270.000 $2.474.000 $18.744.W0 . 

Amend Sec. 1, page2, line 9, b; &king out "(1)"and 

inserting 

(A) 

Amend Sec. I, page 2, line 11, by inserting before "Universitv" 

(1) 

Amend Sec. I, page 2, by inserting between lines I8 and 19 

(B) Temple University, 

(1) Instructional 

Facilities, 

Phase I - 

Ambler Campus 

Land and 

Facilities 

Acquisition 3,900,000 3.900.000 

(2) Armory Renovation 

3,500,000 700,000 4,200,000 

(3) Baotist Temole 


and inserting 

$66,083,000 


and inserting 

$66,083,000 




YEAS-187 

Alden Fee Lucyk Salvatore 

Anderson Fischer McCall Saunnan 

Armstrong Fleck McClatchy Serafini 

Arty Foster. W. W. MeIntyre Seventy 

Barber Foster, Jr.. A. McMonagle Showers 

Belardi Frazier McVerry Shupnik 

Belfanti Freind Mackowski Sieminski 

Beloff Fryer Madigan Sirianni 

Berson Gallagher Maiale Smith, B. 

Bittle Gallen Manderino Smith, E. H. 

Blaum Gamble Manmiller Smith, L. E. 

Barski Gannon Marmion Snyder 

Boyes Geist Mew Spencer 

Brandt Gladeck Michlovic Spitz 

Brown Grabowski Micouie Stairs 

Burd Greenfield Miller Steighner 

Burns Greenwood Miscevich Stevens 

Caltagirone Grieco Moehlmmn Stewan 

Ca~oabianca Gruitza Mowerv Stuban 

~ai~ey 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cahen 

Cole 

Cardisco 

Carnell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWetse 

Daikeler 

Daviea 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dambrawski 

Danatucci 

Darr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Letterman 

Bowser 

Colafella 

Cruppa ~rkonic Swaim 

Hagany Mullen Swed 

Haluska Murphy Swift 

Harpcr Nahill Taddonio 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Honaman Oliver Telek 

Horgos Pendleton Tigue 

Hutchinson. A. Perrel Trello 


lrvis 

Petrarca 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

ltkin 

Morris Wachob 

NOT VOTING-7 

Gray Kanuck 

Hoeffel Pratt 

EXCUSED-4 

Petrone Wambach 

Jackson Phillips Wargo 

Johnson Piecola Wass 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Wengn 

Weston 

Kolter Pitts 

White 


Wiggins 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Williams, H. 

Williams, I. D. 

Laughlin R~PP~PO~~ Wilson 

Lehr Rasco Wogan 

Lescovitz Reber Wozniak 

Levi Richardson Wright. D. R. 

Levin Rieger Wright. J. L. 

Lewis Ritter 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Ryan. 

Speaker 

Zwikl 

Deal 

Gcorge Heiser 


amendments were agreed to.


On the question recurring, I NAYS-4 


amended? 

Mr. ClVERA offered the following amendments No. 

A2932: 


and inserting 

$8.282.000 

Amend Sec. 3, page 1 I, by inserting betwern lines 25 and 26 

(2) Sixty-ninth 

Street Terminal 

Engineering 61,000 6,000 67,000 


and inserting 

$8,282,000 


and inserting 

$8,282,000 




YEAS-184 

Alden Emerson McCall Saurman 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Bersan 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Barski 

Bawser 

Bayes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisca 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Durham 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitra 

Gruppa 

~a&ty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Hulchinson. 

lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kalter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Lehr 

Lescovitr 

Levi 

Lcvin 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackawski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H 

Manmiller Smith, L. E. 

Mar mion Snyder 

Merry Spencer 

Michlovic Spitr 

Micozzie Stairs 

Miller Steighner 

Miscevich Stevens 

Moehlmann Stewan 

Mowery Stuban 

Mrkonic Swaim 

Mullen Sweet 

Murphy Swift 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

W. Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pirtella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapa* 

Rasco 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wargo 

Wars 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan. 

Speaker 

Fryer Letterman Morris Wachob 

NOT VOTING-9 

Duffy Kanuck Lewis Ritter 

Gray Laughlin Reber Wambach 


EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. KANUCK offered the following amendments No. 

A295 1: 

Amend Sec. 3, page 9, line 16 by striking out "$8,215,000" 

$8,179,000 

Amend Sec. 3, page 10. line 30; page 11, lines 1 through 5, by 

striking out all of said lines on said pages 

Amend Sec. 3, page 11, line 6, by striking nut "VII." and 

I insertingVl 

Amend Sec. 3, page 11, line 11, by striking out "VIII." and 

inserting 

VII. 

Amend Sec. 3, page 11, line 20, by striking out "IX." and 

inserting 

VIII. 

Amend Sec. 3, page 11, line 26. by striking out "X." and 

- 

insertine 

IX. 

Amend Sec. 6, page 13, line 7 by striking out "$54,143,000 

and inserting 

$54,107,000 


and inserting 

$8,17Y,000 

Amend Sec. 9, page 14, line 17 by striking nut "$54,143,000" 

and inserting 

$54.107.000 


and inserting 

$8,179,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrang 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Bersan 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bawser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gan"0" 

Gcist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

YEAS-182 

Livengoad 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maialc 

Manderino 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micouie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafmi 

sevaty 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Grieco Moehlmann 


Gruppo Mawery 

Hagarty Mrkonic 


Harper Murphy 

Hasay Nahill 

Hayes Noye 

Hoeffel O'Dannell 





lrvis Petrarca 

ltkin Petrone 




Kennedy Pitts 

Klingarnan POtt 

Kolter Pratt 


Kukovich Punt 

Laughlin Rappaport 

Lehr Rasco 


Levi 

Richardson 

Levin Rieger 

Lewis 


Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Harne 

Vroon 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Dininni Manmiller Wachob Wambach 

Fryer Piccola 

NOT VOTING-9 

Bittle Lashinger Rybak 

Emerson Letterman Taddonio 

Gray McVerry 

Ryan, 

Speakel 

EXCUSED-4 






Lehigh, Mr. Kanuck. 

Mr. KANUCK. Mr. Speaker, I submit the following 

remarks for the Legislative Journal. 

Mr. KANUCK submitted the following remarks for the 




Harrisburg 

June 30, I981 

RE: House Bill 1645 

Printer's Number 1924 

Amendment A2951 

Statement For the Record 

The above statement is authored ulth the approval and %upport 

of all the member5 of the Leh~gh County N


NOT VOTING-8 1 YEAS-186 

Clvmer Lewis Sweet White ~~~ 

I Alden Emerson Livenaood Salvatore 

Gray Madigan Wachob 

EXCUSED-4 

Wright, J. L. 

Deal George Heiser Olaar 






amended? 

Mr. PETERSON offered the following amendments No. 

A2808: 

Amend Sec. 2, page I, line 16, by striking out "$181,696,000" 

and inserting 

6182,356,OW 

Amend Sec. 2, page 70, by inserting between lines I0 and I I 

(2) L.R.1094 

(BOO), T.R.6 

Warren Bypass 

from Main St. 

to Rt. 6 

vicinity of 

Warren: 2- 

lane relocation 

on 4- 

lane RlW: 

Length 

2.2 ~ i l ~ 535,000 ~ , 79,000 46,000 660,000 




Anderson Evans ~loyd Saurman 

Armstrong Fee Lucyk Serafini 

Arty Fleck McCall Seventy 

Barber Foster,W.W. McClatchy Showers 

Belardi Foster, Jr.. A. Mclntyre Shupnik 

Belfanti Frazier McMonagle Sieminski 

Beloff Freind McVerry Sirianni 

Bersan Gallagher Mackowski Smith, 8. 

Bittle Gallen Madigan Smith, E. H. 

Blaum Gamble Maiale Smith, L. E. 

Borski Gannon Mandcrino Snyder 


Luzerne, Mr. Stevens. 

;z;: Brandt 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merw 

Spencer 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Mr. STEVENS. Mr. Speaker, may I submit some remarks 

for the record? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman's remarks will be made 

Brown 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

tiruitza 

~ico&ie 

Miller 

Misoevich 

Moehlmann 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

part of the record. 

Mr. STEVENS submitted the following remarks for the 


Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Harsr 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mulkn 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Swaim 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. 2. 

Taylor. F. E. 

The purpose of my amendment is to correct a dangerous situation. 

Route 924 and the intersection of S. Broad St. has been the 

scene of numerous accidents - tragic accidents - several children 

have died there. 

The residents of Cranberry have no way to walk to West 

Hazleton without crossing this dangerous intersection. 

For many years Cranberry residents have sought help from 

government. While government officials recognize there is a 

problem, no solution has yet been given. 

I ask the support of this House to help the good people in my 

district. 

The proposed pedestrian walkway will provide a means of 

safety and security for the residents of Cranberry. It is a commitment 

to saving lives! 

Join me in this commitment to saving lives. Support my efforts 

to construct a pedestrian walkway on Route 924. Thank you. 

Clymer 

Cochran 

EzkGlla 

Cole 

Cardisco 

cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedia 

DeWeese 

:$: 

Dawida 

Dietz 

~ i ~ i 

Dombrowski 

~ 

Hoeffel Noye 

Honaman O'Donnell 

Hargos Oliver 

Hutchinson, A. Pendletan 

Hutchinson. W. Perzel 

lrvis Peterwn 

ltkin Petrarca 

Jackson Petrone 

Johnson Phillips 



Klingaman Pitts 

Kolter Pott 

Kowalyshyn Pratt 

Kukovich Pucciarelli 

Lashinger Punt 

Laughlin Rappapon 

Lehr ~ i 

Reber 

Lescovitr Richardson 

Tclek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wcnger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wil\iams. I. D. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Worniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Donatucci Letterman Rieger Zwikl 

Darr Levi Ritter 

Dulfy Levin Rocks Ryan, 

Durham Lewis Rybak 

NAYS-5 

Speaker 

Fischer Halurka Morris Wachob 

Fryer 

NOT VOTING-6 

Burd Michlovic Rasco Sweet 

G~~~ Pistella 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Hciser Olasz 





Allegheny, Mr. Pistella. For what purpose does the gentleman 

rise? 

Mr. PISTELLA. Mr. Speaker, my vote was not recorded 

on the Peterson amendment A2808. I wish to be recorded in 

the affirmative, please.



spread upon the record. 

CONSIDERATION OF HB 1687 CONTINUED 



amended? 

Mr. A. K. HUTCHINSON offered the following amend- 

ments No. A2828: 

Amend Bill, page 78, by inserting between lines 8 and 9 

Section 3. Construction of toll roads and bridges. 

The Department of Transportation shall have the power to 

construct and maintain toll roads and bridges in such locations 

throughout the Commonwealth as it deems are in the public 

interest. Such toll roads and bridges may be constructed with 

current revenues of the Commonwealth. All tolls collected on a 

given toll road or bridge shall be pledged to the repayment of any 

revenues used to construct said road or bridge. Whenever the 

costs incurred to construct a given toll road or bridge have been 

retired, the department may at its option cancel the imposition of 

tolls or continue to collect them at the same or lower rate to offset 

the cost of maintaining such toll road or bridge. Any construction 

of toll roads or bridges shall be approved by the General 

Assembly. 

Amend Sec. 3, page 78, line 9, by striking out "3" and 

inserting 

4 


inserting 

5 


inserting 

4 


inserting 

6 


inserting 

7 

Amend Set, , page 79, line 19, by striking out ''7H and 

inserting 

8 

Cawley Hagarty Mrkonic Swift 

Cessar Haluska Mullen Taddonio 

Cimini Harper Murphy Taylor, E. Z. 

Civera Hasav Nahill Taylor, F. E. 

Clark ~ayei ~oye ~ekk 

Clymer Hoeffel O'Donnell Tigue 

Cochran Honaman Oliver Trello 

Cohen Horgos Pendleton Van Home 

Colafella Hutchinson. A. Perzel Vroon 

Cole Hutchinson. W. Peterson Wambach 

:z::ey 

lrvis Petrarca Wargo 

ltkin Petrone Wass 

Coslett Jackson Phillips Wenger 

Cowell Johnson Piccola Weston 

Cunningham Kanuck Pievsky White 

DeMedio Kennedy Pistella Wiggins 

DeVerter Klingaman Pitts Williams. H. 

DeWeese Kolter Pott Williams, I. D. 

Daikeler Kowalyshyn Pratt Wilson 

Davies Kukovich Pucciarelli Wogan 

l!znni 

Lashinger Punt Wozniak 

Laughlin Rappaport Wright, D. R. 

Lehr Rasco Wright, I. L. 

Lrscovitl Reber Zwikl 

Donatucci Letterman Richardson 

DO,, Levi Ritter Ryan, 

ouffy Levin Rocks Speaker 

Durham 

NAYS-4 

Fischer Fryer Spitz Wachob 

NOT VOTING-6 

Gray Mclntyre Rieger Swm 

Lewis McMonagle 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heiser OlasZ 


amendmentswereagreed to. 



amended? 

Mr. MILLER offered the following amendments No. 

A2870: 


Amend Sec. 2, page I, line 16, by strikingout "$181,6%,000" 

and inserting 



$183,869,000 

Amend Sec. 2, page 44, lines I through 8, by striking out all of 

said lines and inserting 

YEAS-187 

(9) L.R.36184, Harrisburg 

Pike, Railroad 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 

Foster, Jr.. A. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieca 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

McVerry 

Mackawski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micazzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewarf 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Structure over Harrisburg 

Pike, Bridge 

Replacement, Length 

0.1 Mile. 675,000 25,000 50,000 750,000 

(10) L.R.1124, T.R.23: 

Traffic Route 23 

relocated from New 

Holland to T.R.322: 

2 Lane Relocation 

on 4 Lane R/W: 

Length 2.8 Miles. 328,000 168,000 4%.000 

(11) L.R.215, T.R.30: 

Lincoln Hiehwav 

- 

from Lancaster to 

T.R.41: Widening 

and Jug Handles: 

Length 15.2 

Miles. 6,000,000 2,400,000 600.OOQ 9,000,000


(12) L.R.442 Spur E, 

36182, 36183; 

T.R.30 By-pass, 

Fruitville Pike 

to Route 222: 

Safety Provisions, 

Modification and 

Widening: Length 

1.0 Mile. 850,000 25,000 75,000 950,000 

(13) L.R.792, T.R.30: 

Traffic Route 30 and 

Centerville Rd.: 

Add Interchange 

Ramp: ~en~th- 

0.1 Mile. 250,000 25,000 40,000 315,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrang 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cawell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVeRer 

DeWee~e 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

YEAS-183 

Emerson Lucyk 

Evans McCall 

Fee McClatchy 

Fleck Mclntyre 

Foster, W. W. McManagle 

Foster, Jr.. A. McVerry 

Freind Mackowski 

Gallagher Madigan 

Gallen Maiale 

Gamble Manderino 

Gannon Manmiller 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitra 

Gruppo 

Hagany 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 


Hutchinsan, W. 

Irvis 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Michlovic 

Micorzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkanic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrane 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

P~tt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

RappapoR 

Rarco 

Reber 

Richardson 

Riegcr 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, 0. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snvder 

~~~ , 

~ ~~ 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steiahner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swift 

Taddonia 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trella 

Van Harne 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Williams. J. D. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan. 

Speaker 

NAYS-5 

Fischer Haluska Morris Wachob 

Fryer 

NOT VOTING-9 

Cappabianca ltkin Marmion Pratt 

Frarier Lewis Merry Sweet 

Gray 

EXCUSED-4 



amendments were agreed to On the question recurring, 


amended? 

Mr. TAYLOR offered the following amendments No. 

A2888: 

Amend Sec. 2, page I, line 16, by striking out "$181,6%.000" 

and inserting 

$187,074,000 

Amend Sec. 2 (Fayette County), page 35, by inserting between 

lines 8 and 9 

(4) L.R.1071, T.R.40: 

Section C01, Brownsville 

to Haddonsville: 

4 Lane 

Relocation 4,590.000 330,000 458,000 5,378,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstronx - 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisca 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedia 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowrki 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Haelfel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



Irvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

YEAS-191 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Michlovic 

Micauie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowcry 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Stcighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Tclck 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroan 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Was 

Wcnger 

Weston 

White


DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duiiy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Fryer 


Kolter Pott 




Laughlin RappapoR 

Lehr Rasco 


Letterman Richardson 

Levi Rieger 

Levin Ritter 

Livengood Rocks 

Wachob 

NOT VOTING-4 

Gray Lewis Merry Sweet 

EXCUSED-4 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Worniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Deal George Heiscr Olasz 





amended? 

Mr. SNYDER offered the following amendment No. 

A2864: 


(5) L.R.153, T.R.309, 

From intersection 

of T.R.22. South 

Whitehall Twp. 

to Oakhurst Drive, 

Uooer Saucon Two. 

~aiety ~mprovements: 

Length 7.5 Miles. 1,900,000 100,000 2,000,000 




Alden Emerson Lloyd Rybak 

Anderson Evans Lucyk Salvatore 

Armstrong Fee McCall Saurman 

Any Fleck McClatchy Serafini 

Barber Foster. W. W. Mclntvre Seventv 

Belardi Foster, Jr., A. ~ c ~ ~ n a ~ ~howeis l e 

Belfanti Frazier McVerry Shupnik 

Beloif Freind Mackowski Sieminski 

Berson Gallaghcr Madigan Sirianni 

Bittle 

Gallen Maiale Smith, B. 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Boves 

Gladeck Merw 

Soencer 

~randt Grabowski ~ichiovic ~pitz 

Brown 

Burd 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Micouie 

Miller 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Burns 

Grieco Miscevich Stevens 

Caltagirone Gruitza Mwhlmann Stewan 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Cruppo 

Hamy 

Haluska 

Harper 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Nahill 

Naye 

O'Donnell 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Cochran Honaman Oliver Telek 

Cohen Horgos Pendleton Time 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordiso 


Irvis 

Itkin 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrone 

Trello 

Van Home 

Wambach 

Cornell Jackson Phillips Wargo 

Coslett Johnson Piccoia Wabs 

Cowell Kanuck Pievsky Wenger 

Cunningham Kennedy Pistella Wmon 

DeMedio Klingaman Pitts 

White 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Koher 

Kowalyshyn 

PO11 

Pratt 

Wig& 

Williams, 1. D 

Daikeler Kukovich Pucciarelli Wilson 

Davies Lashinger Punt 

Wogan 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Le~covitz 

Rappaport 

Rasco 

Reber 

Womiak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, 1. L. 

Dambrowski Letterman Richardson Zwikl 

Donatucci - ~~ 

Levi 

Riezer 

Dorr Levin ~itcr Ryan, 

Duiiy 

Durham 

Livengood Rocks Speaker 

NAYS-4 

Fischer Fryer Morris Wachob 

NOT VOTING-6 

Gray Lewis Vroon Williams, H. 

Hutchinson. A. Petrarca 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Hciser Olasr 





amended? 

Mr. STUBAN offered the following amendments No. 

A2809: 

Amend Sec. 2, page 1, line 16, by striking out "$181,6%,000" 

and inserting 

$185,041,000 


(5) L.R.183 (012) 

Catawissa 

River Bridge ~ 

Structure 

Replacement 2,859,000 200,MX) 286,000 3,345,000 




YEAS-191 

Alden Evans McCall Salvatore 

Anderson Fee McClarchy Saurman 

Armstrong Fleck Mclntyre Serafmi 

Any Foster, W. W. McMonagle Seventy 

Barber Foster. . Jr.. . A. McVcrw Showers 

Belardi 

Belianti 

Beloif 

Berson 

Bittle 

Biaum 

Barski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brand1 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannan 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitra 

~ackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

ManmiUeI 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micovic 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H, 

Smith, L. E. 

Snydn 

Spenar 

Spiu 

Stain 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan


Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Cosktt 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Fischer 

Gray 

GNPP~ Mowery 

Hagart y Mrkonic 

Harper Mullen 

Hasay Murphy 

Hayes Nahill 

Hoeffel Noye 


Horgos Oliver 


Hutchinson, W. Perzel 

lwis Peterson 





Kennedy Picvsky 


Kolter Pitts 



Lashinger Pucciarelli 

Laughlin Punt 

Lehr Rappapart 

Lescovitz Rasco 

Letterman Reber 

Levi Richardson 

Levin Rieger 

Livengood Ritter 

Lloyd Rocks 

Lucyk Rybak 

Fryer Haluska 

NOT VOTING-2 

Lewis 

EXCUSED-4 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddanio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

vrm 

Wambach 

wag0 

wass 

Wenger 

Westan 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Womiak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Soeaker 

Wachob 






amended? 

Mr. BOWSER offered the following amendments No. 

A2660: 

Amend Sec. 2, page I, line 16, by striking out 'L$181 ,696,MX)" 

and inserting 

$1ai,346,m 


(6) L.R.304, 

Station 754 + 

57: Bridge 

over Baily 

Brook, Greenfield 

Twp.: 

Bridge Replace- 

(7) 

ment 

L.R.304, 

Station 992 + 

95: Bridge 

over French 

Creek, West 

Branch, Greenfield 

Twp.: 

200,000 

Bridge Replacement 

600,000 

(8) L.R.84. 

Station 354: 

- 

Bridge over 

LeBeouf Creek, 

Waterford Twp.: 


Amend Sec. 2, page 70, by inserting between lines 10 and I1 

(2) . . L.R.61014. 

Station 353 + : 

Bridge over 

Hare Creek, 

Columbus Twp.: 





YEAS-190 

Alden Emerson Lueyk 

Anderson Evans McCall 

Armstrang Fee McClatchy 

Any Fleck Mclntyre 

Barber Foster, W. W. McMonaglc 

Bclardi Foster. Ir.. A. McVcm 

Belfanti Frazier Mackowski 

Beloff Freind Madigan 

Berson Gallagher Maialc 

Bittle Gallcn Mandnino 

Blaum Gamble Manmiller 

Borski Gannon Marmion 

Bowser Geist Merry 

Boyes Gladeck Michlovic 

Brandt Grabowski Micouie 

Brown Greenfield Miller 

Burd Greenwood Misccvich 

Burns Grieco Moehlmann 

Caltagirane Gruitza Mowcry 

Cappabianca Gmppo Mrkonic 

Cawlcy Hagarty Mullen 

Cessar Hamr Murphy 

Cimini Hasay Nahill 

Civera Hayes Noyc 

Clark Hoeffel O'DonneU 

Clymer Honaman Oliver 

Cochran Horgos Pendleton 

Cohen Hutchinson, A. Perzel 

Colafella Hutchinson, W. Peterson 

Cole Iwis Petrarca 

Cordisco ltkin Pnrone 

Cornell Jackson Phillips 

Coslett Johnson Piccola 

Cowell Kanuck Pievsky 

Cunningham Kennedy Pistella 

DeMedio Klingaman Pitts 

DeVerter Kolter Pott 

DeWeex Kowalyshyn Pratt 

Daikeler Kukovich Pucciarelli 

Davies Lashinger Punt 

Dawida Laughlin Rappapon 

Dietz Lehr Rasco 

Dininni Lescovitr Rebcr 

Dombrowski Letterman Richardson 

Donatucci Levi Riegcr 

Dorr Levin Ritter 

Duffy Livcngwd Rocks 

Durham Lloyd Rybak 

NAYS-5 

Fischer Haluska Moms 

Fryer 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Seraffi 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sierninski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

StUban 

Swairn 

sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telck 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Was 

Wenger 

Westan 

White 

Wigsins 

Williams, H. 

Williams. I, D. 

Wilson 

wow 

Wozniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright, 1. L. 

Zwikl 

Wachob


Gray Lewis 

NOT VOTING-2 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. L~VENGOOD offered the following amendments No. 

A2866: 


and inserting 

$183,446,000 


(4) L.R.l037(A15) 

Allegheny 

Valley Expy. 

1.51 Miles 


1.448.000 182.000 120.000 1.750.000 


. . 


Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cahen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisca 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Diet2 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Grup~o 

Hagmy 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hwffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 


lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Livengood 

YEAS-188 

McClatfhy 

Mclntyre 

MfMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackawski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendlcton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapon 

Rasca 

Reber 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snvder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trella 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, I. L. 

Zwikl 

Dorr Lloyd Rocks Ryan. 

Duffy Lucyk Rybak Spcake~ 

Durham McCall 

NAYS-4 

Fischer Fryer Haluska Wachob 

NOT VOTING-5 

Gallasher Hutchinson. W. Lewis Wargo 

Deal George Heinr Olasz 

~ h question , was determined in the affirmative, and the 




amended? 

Miss SIRIANNI offered the following amendments No. 

A2678: 

Amend Sec. 2, page I, line 16, by strikingout "$181,6%,000" 

I and insertine 

$182,056,000 

I Amend Sec. 2. ~aae 63. . by . inserting between lines 20 and 21 

1 (2) L.R.9, T..R.~&: 

New Milford Two. 

I Bridge over 

Railroad: 

Bridge Replacement, 

Length 

0.1Mile. 300,000 20,000 40,000 360,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Comell 

Cosletl 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 

Faster, Jr., A. 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfxld 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hwffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kawalyshyn 

YEAS-187 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagJe 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovk 

Micouie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Mmhlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pissky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snvder 

spencer 

Spitz 

Stain 

Steighner 

stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swaf 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Wcrton

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWecse 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Kukovich Pott 

Lashinger Pratt 

Laughlin Pucciarelli 

Lehr Punt 

Lescovitz Rappapon 

Letterman R~SCO 

Levi Reber 


Lewis Rieger 


Lloyd Rocks 

Lucyk Rybak 

McCall Salvatore 


White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Williams, I. D 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, I. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 


NOT VOTING-6 

Any Freind Gray Kanuck 

Frazier Cannon 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. GRUITZA offered the following amendment No. 

Colafella 

COIC 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWcese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyrhyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitis 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Was 

Wengcr 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

William, H. 

Williams, I. D 

Wilson 

wogan 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Punt 

Raooawrt .. . 

Rasw 

Womiak 

Wright. D. R 

Letterman Reber Wright, I. L. 

Levi Richardson Zwikl 

Levin Rieger 

Lewis Ritter Ryan. 


NAYS-4 

Speaker 

Fryer Morris Wachob 

NOT VOTING-3 

Gray Kanuck Tigue 

EXCUSED-4 

I Deal George Heiser Olasz 





(2) L.R.238, T.R.418: 


Spur D, City of 

Allegheny, Mr. Frazier. For what purpose does the gentleman 

Farrell, Broadway 

rise? 

Ave. Length: 1.75 

Miles. 460.000 40,000 500,WO Mr. FRAZIER. Mr. Speaker, on the Sirianni amendment, 

unfortunately, I did not push my switch. I wish to be recorded 


in the affirmative. 



The following roll call was recorded: 1 spread upon the record. 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Lklardi 

Belianti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boycs 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Emerson Lloyd 

Evans Lucyk 

Fee McCall 


Foster. W. W. Mclntyre 





Gallen Maiale 


Cannon Manmiller 

Geist Harmion 

Gladeck Merry 

Grabowski Michlovie 

Greenfield Micozrie 


Grieco Miscevich 

Gruitza Moehlmann 

Cruppo Mowery 

Hagany Mrkonic 


Harper Murphy 

Hasay Nahill 

Hayes Noye 

Hoeifel O'Donncll 


Horgos Pendlcton 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

TreUo 




amended? 


A2875: 


(2) L.R.74: Business 

Route 62, East 

State St., City 

of Sharon: Street 

reconstruction: 

Length 0.38 Mile. 489,000 49.000 538.000 






Armstrong Fee McCall Saunnan 

Arty Fleck McClatchy Serafi


Barber foster, W. W. Mclntyre Seventy 

Belardi Foster, Jr., A. McMonagle Showers 



Berson Gallagher Madigan Smith, B. 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Borski Gannon Manmiller Snyder 

Bowser Geist Marmion Spencer 

Boyes Gladeck Merry Spitz 

Brandt Grabowski Michlavic Stairs 

Brown Greenfield Micozrie Steighner 

Burd Greenwood Miller Stevens 

Burns Grieco 

2 lane reloca- 

tion and new 

bridge struc- 

Miscevich Stewart 

Caltagirone Gmitza Moehlmann Stuban 

Cappabianca Gruppo Mowery Swaim 

Cawley Hagany Mrkonic Sweel 


Cimini Harper Murphy Taddonio 

Civera Hasay Nahill Taylor, E. Z. 

Clark Hayes Noye Taylor. F. E. 

Clymer Hoeffel O'Donnell Telek 

Cochran Honaman Oliver Tigue 

Cohen Horgos Pendleton Trello 

Colafella Hutchinson, A. Perzel Van Home 

Cole Hutchinson, W. Peterson Vraon 

Cordisco lrvis Petrarca Wambach 

Cornell ltkin Petrone Warga 

Coslett Jackson Phillips Wass 

Cowell Johnson Piccola Wenger 

Cunningham Kanuck Pievsky 

Westan 

DeMedio Kennedy Pistella White 

DeVener Klingaman Pitts Wiggins 

DeWeese Kolter Pott Williams. H. 

Daikeler Kowalyshyn Pratt Williams, J. D. 

Davies Kukovich Pucciarelli Wilson 

Dawida Lashinger Punt Wogan 

Dietz Laughlin Rappapon 

Worniak 

Dininni Lehr Rasco Wright, D. R. 

Dombrowski Lescovitz Reber Wright, 1. L. 

Donatucci Levi Richardson Zwikl 

Dorr Levin Rieger 

Duffy Lewis Ritter Ryan, 

Durham Livengood Rocks Speaker 

NAYS-5 

Fischer Morris Sieminski Wachob 

Fryer 

NOT VOTING-2 

Gray Letterman 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 


A2874: 


(2) L.R.43081: 

Sec. B Walnut 

St. Extension 

High St. to 

Buckeye Dr. 

Borough of 

Sharpsville: 

1 amended? 

ture: Length: 

0.4 Mile. 2,359,000 186,000 235,000 2,780,000 




YEAS-190 



Armstrong Fee McCall Saum 

Any Fleck McClatchy Serafini 

Barber Foster. W. W. McIntyrc Seventy 

Belardi foster, Jr., A. McMonagle Showers 




Bittle Gallen Maiale Smith, E. H. 

Blaum Gamble Manderino Smith, L. E. 

Barski Gannon Manmiller Snyder 

Bowser Geist Marmion Spencer 

Boyes Gladeck Merry Spit2 

Brandt Grabowski Michlovic Stairs 

Brown Greenfield Micouie Steighncr 

Burd Greenwood Miller Stevens 

Burns Grieco Miscevich Stewan 

Caltagirone Gruitra Moehlmann Stuban 

Cappabianca Gruppo Mowery Swaim 

Cawley Hagarty Mrkonic Sweet 


Cimini Harper Murphy Taddonio 

Civera Hasay Nahill Taylor, E. Z. 

Clark Hayes Noye Taylor. F. E. 

Clymer Hoeffel O'Donnell Telek 

Cochran Honaman Oliver Tiwe 

Cohen Horgos Pendlaon TrcUo 

Colafella Hutchinson, A. Pnzel Van Home 

Cole Hutchinson. W. Peterson Vroon 

Cordisco lrvis Petrarca Wambach 

Cornell ltkin Parone Wargo 

Coslett Jackson Phillips Wass 

Cowell Johnson Picwla Wager 

Cunningham Kennedy Pievsky Waton 

DeMedio Klingaman Pistella White 

DeVener Kolter Pitts Wiggins 

DeWeese Kowalyshyn Pott Williams, H. 

Daikeler Kukovich Pratt Williams, J. D. 

Davies Lashinget Pucciarelli Wilson 

Dawida Laughlin Punt Wogan 

Dietz Lehr Rappapon Womiak 

Dininni Lescovitz Rasm Wright, D. R. 

Dombrowski Letterman Reber Wright. I. L. 

Donatucci Levi Richardson Zwlkl 

Dorr Levin Rieger 

~uffy Lewis Ritter Ryan. 

Durham Livengood Rocks Speaker 

NAYS-5 


Fryer 

NOT VOTING-2 

Gray Kanuck 

EXCUSED-4 





Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration as

Mr. CESSAR offered the following amendments No. 

A2689: 


Amend Sec. 2, page 1, line 16, by striking out "$I81,696,WO" 

and inserting 

$182,146,000 


(4) L.R.02153(27) 

Grant Ave. 

Bridge, Boro. 

of Etna - over 

Pine Creek, 

Replacement, 400,000 30,000 20,000 450.W 



(A roll-call vote was taken.) 



Allegheny, Mr. Rasco. For what purpose does the gentleman 

rise? 

Mr. RASCO. Mr. Speaker, on final passage of HB 1645, 1 

was not in my seat. I would like to be recorded as a "yes" vote 

on that bill. 



Mr. RASCO. Thank you, sir. 


VOTE RETAKEN 

The SPEAKER. We got ahead of the machine. It will be 

necessary to revote Mr. Cessar's amendment A2689. 




YEAS-187 

Alden Evans Lucyk Saurman 

Anderson Fee McCall Serafini 

Armstrong Fleck McClalchy Seventy 

Any Foster, W. W. Mclntyre Showers 

hber Foster, Jr.. A. McMonagle Shupnik 

Belardi Frazier McVerry Sieminski 

Belfanti Freind Mackowski Sirianni 


Bittle Callen Maiale Smith. E. H. 

Blaum Gamble Manmiller Smith, L. E. 

Borski Cannon Marmion Snyder 

Bowxr Geist Merry Spencer 

Boyes Gladeck Michlovic Soitz 

~rindt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gmitza 

GNPP~ 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harpr 

H=Y 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Micouie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Mower Y 

Mrkonie 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

D'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perrel 

stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dambrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Fischer 

Fryer 


Gray 

Hutchinson. A. Peterson 

Hutchinson, W. Petrarca 

lwis Petrone 

llkin Phillips 



Kennedv Pistella 


Kolter Pot1 




Laughlin Rasco 

Lehr Reber 



Lcvi Ritter 

Lewis Rocks 


Lloyd Salvatore 

NAYS-5 

Morris Rappapon 

NOT VOTING-5 

Kanuck Levin 

JUNE 30, 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

wargo 

Wass 

Wager 

Waton 

White ~~~~~ 

Wiggins 

Wiams. H. 


Wilson 

wosan 

Wovliak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright. I. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Wachob 

Manderino 

Deal George Heiser Olau 





amended? 

Messrs. MANDERINO and DeMEDIO offered the 

following amendments No. A2695: 

Amend Sec. 2, page I, line 16, by striking out all of said tine 

and inserting 

$187,259,000 


(9) L.R.1099(1): 

South Approach to 

the Donora-Monessen 

Bridge: 3 Lane 

Roadway on 5 Lane 

R/W: Leneth - 

1.7 Miles. 

Map No. 140. 5,359,000 39.000 165,000 5,563.000 




YEAS-IS8 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 


Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Gist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

McClatchy 

McIntyrC 

McMonaglc 

McVerry 

Mackawski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Mmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micouic 

Saurman 

Scrafni 

Scvaty 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snvder 

Spencer 

Spiu

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordiseo 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietr 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Fischer 


Frazier 

Greenfield Miller 



Gruitza Mowery 

Gruppo Mrkanic 

Hagany Mullen 

Haluska Murphy 

Harper Nahill 

Hasay Noye 

Hayes O'Donnell 

Hoeffel Oliver 

Honaman Pendleton 

Horgos Perzel 

Hutchinson. A. Peterson 


lmis Pewone 

ltkin Phillips 




Kennedy Pitts 

Klingaman Pott 

Koltw Pratt 


Kukovich Punt 

Lashinger Rappapon 


Lehr Reber 

Lercovitz Richardson 


Levi Ritter 


Llovd Rvbak 

LUC& Salvatore 

McCall 

Fryer Morris 

NOT VOTING-5 

Gray Levin 


Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trella 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan. 

Speaker 

Wachob 

Lewis 






amended? 

Mr. HAYES offered the following amendments No. 

A2773: 


and inserting 

$188,3%,000 


(7) L.R.121, T.R. 

522: T.R.522 

from 1 Mile 

South of Or- 

bisonia to 

Mt. Union: 

Reconstruct 

to 24 Feet 

with Minor 

Relocation: 

Length 13.4 

Miles. 5,280,000 750,000 670,000 6,700,000 




YEAS-190 

Alden Evans Lucyk Salvatore 

Anderson Fee McCall Sawman 

Armstrong Fleck McClatchy Seraf~ 

Arty Foster. W. W. Mclntyre kmty 

Barber Foster, Jr., A. McMonagle Showers 

Belardi Fazier McVerry ShupNk 

Belfanti Freind Mackowski Sieminski 

Berson Gallagher Madigan Sirianni 

Bittle Gallen Maiale Smith, 8. 

Blaum Gamble Manderino Smith, E. H. 

Barski Gannon Manmiller Smith, L. E. 

Bowxr Geist Marmion Snyder 

Boyes Gladeck Merry Spcncn 

Brandt Grabowski Michlovic Spitz 

Brown Greenfield Miconie Stairs 

Burd Greenwood Miller Steighner 

Burns Grieco Miscevich Stevens 

Caltagirone Gruitra Mochlmann Stewart 

Cappabianca Gmppa Mowery Stuban 

Cawley Hagany Mrkonic Swaim 

Cessar Haluska Mullen Sw& 

Cimini Harper Murphy Swift 

Civera Hasay Nahill Taddonio 

Clark Hayes Noye Taylor, E. Z. 

Clymer Hoeffel O'Donnell Taylor, F. E. 

Cochran Honaman Oliver Telek 

Cohen Horgos Pendleton Tic 

Colafclla Hutchinson. A. Perrel Trello 

Cole Hutchinson, W. Peterson Van Home 

Cordisco lwis Petrarca Vroon 

Cornell Itkin Pcfrone Wambach 

Coslett Jackson Phillips Wargo 

Cowell Johnson Piccola Wass 

Cunningham Kanuck Pievsky Wager 

DeMedio Kennedy Pistella Wcston 

DeVener Klingaman Pitts White 

DeWeese Kolter Pott W i 

Oaikeler Kowalyshyn Pratt Williams, H. 

Davies Kukovich Pucciarelli Wiliams, J. D. 

Dawida Lashinger Punt Wilson 

Dietz Laugblin Rappaport WOW 

Dininni Lehr Rasco Womiak 

Dombrowski Lescovitz Reber Wright, D. R. 

Donatucci Lettenan Richardson Wright, J. L. 

Dorr Levi Rieger Zwiki 

Duffy Lewis Ritter 

Durham Livengoad Rocks Ryan, 

Emerson Lloyd Rybak SpcaLer 

NAYS-4 


NOT VOTING-3 

Bcloff Gray Lcvin 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Hciwr Olarz 



On the question recurring. 


amended? 

Mr. SIEMINSKI offered the following amendments No. 

A2796:


and inserting 

$188,1%,000 


(5) L.R.443, 771, 

772, T.R.22, 

West of Rt.100 

Interchange to 

Northampton Co. 

Line. Safety 

Improvements 

and Restora- 

tion: Length 

14.1 Miles 4,100,000 100,000 4,200,000 


(6) L.R.772, 773, 

T.R.22, Nazareth 

Pike to 4th St., 

Safety Improve- 

ments and Restora- 

tion: Length 

7.7 Miles. 


2,250,000 50,000 2,300,000 



Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

MY 

Barber 

Bclardi 

Bclfanti 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bawser 

byes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltdrone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DcVener 

DeWeex 

Daikelcr 

Davits 

Dawida 

Dice 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

DOIr 

Duffy 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowaki 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gmitza 

GIUPPO 

Hagany 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hmffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lNil 

ltkin 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Lcvi 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

MeMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Maehlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Pctrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

PO11 

Pratt 

Pueciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapon 

Rasco 

Rebcr 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 


Saurman 

SeraRni 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, D. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroan 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Wcrton 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, I. L. 

Zwikl 

( 

Durham Lucyk Salvatore Speaker 

Emerson McCall 

NAYS-6 


Fryer Jackson 

NOT VOTING-3 

Beloff Gray Levin 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heixr Olasz 





amended? 

Mr. LEV1 offered the following amendments No. ,42692: 

Amend Sec. 2, page I, line 16, by striking out "$181,6%.000" 

and insertina 

$~eT,wo,m 

Amend Sec. 2, page 70, by inserting between lines I and 2 

(4) L.R.75, Main 

St. Bridge Replacement, 

Length 0.4 Mile. 202,000 22,WO 70.000 294,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Afly 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Dowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Cachran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

Deweex 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Fwter, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Gricca 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagmy 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffcl 

Honaman 

Horgos 



l~is 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashingel 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Mew 

Michlovic 

Micouic 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

MuUa 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'DonneU 

Oliver 

Pcndleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

Pot1 

Pratt 

Pucciarclli 

Punt 

Salvatore 

S a w 

Serafmi 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirivlni 

Smith, 8. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

SPrnesr 

Stain 

StcigJmer 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swsim 

swm 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor, P. E. 

Telek 

Tiguc 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Ww 

wager 

Wnton 

White 

Wi- 

William. H. 

Wiams, J. D. 

Wilson

Dietz Laughlin Rappapon Wogan 

Dininni Lescovitz Rasco Wozniak 

Dambrowski Letterman Reber Wright, D. R 


Dorr Lewis Rieger 

Duffy Livengood Ritter Ryan, 

Durham Lloyd Rocks Speaker 

Emerson Lucyk Rybak 

NAYS-5 


Fryer 

NOT VOTING-7 

Beloff Gray Levin Wright, I. L 

Clymer Lehr Spitz 

EXCUSED-4 







amended? 

Mr. CLYMER offered the following amendments No. 

A2820: 


and inserting 

$182,917,000 


(13) L.R. 09106 

Sec. IOS, 

Lawn Ave. 

Reconstruction 

Almont 

Rd. to Maple 

Ave. 

Length 0.8 

Mile 976,000 157,000 98,000 1,221,000 




YEAS-185 

Alden Fee McClatchy Serafini 

Anderson Fleck Mclntyre Seventy 

Armstrong Foster. W. W. McMonagle Showers 

Any Foster, Jr., A. McVerry Shupnik 

Barber Frazier Mackowski Sieminskj 

Belardi Freind Madigan Sirianni 

Belfanti Gallagher Maiale Smith. B. 

Berson Gallen Manderino Smith. E. H. 

Bittle Gamble Manmiller Smith, L. E. 

Blaum Cannon Marmion Snyder 

Borski Geist Merry Spencer 

Bowscr Gladeck Michlovic Spitr 

Boyes Grabowski Micorrie Stairs 

Brand1 Greenfield Miller Steighner 

Brown Greenwood Miscevich Stevens 

Burd Grieo Mwhlmann Stewan 

Burns Gmitza Mowery Stuban 

Caltagirone Gruppo Mrkonic Swaim 

Cappabianca Hagarty Mullen Sweet 

Cawley Harper Murphy Swift 

Cessar Hasay Nahill Taddonio 

Cimini Hayes Noye Taylor. E. Z. 

Civera Hoeffel O'Donnell Taylor. F. E. 

Clark Honaman Oliver Telek 

Clymer Horgos Pendletan Tigue 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dambrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Durham 

Evans 

Fischer 

Fryer 



Irvis Pctrone 





Kennedy Pitts 

Klingaman Pot1 

Kolter Pratt 

Kowalyshyn PucciareUi 

Kukovich Punt 

Lashinger Rappapon 


Lehr Reber 


Letterman Riepr 

Levi Ritter 

Lewis Rocks 


Lloyd Salvatore 

MeCall Sauman 

NAYS-5 

Haluska Morris 

NOT VOTING-7 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

wargo 

Was5 

Wenger 

Weston 

White . . Wiggins 

H. 


Wilson 

wogan 

womiak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright, 1. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Wachob 

Beloff Emerson Levin Panmn 

Duffy Gray Lucyk 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. GEIST offered the following amendments No. A26W: 

Amend Sec. 2. Daae . - I, line 16, by striking out "$181,6%,000" 

and inserting 

$182,731,000 


(3) L.R.0707HA) 

seventeenth 

St. from 

Fifth Ave. to 

relocated T.R 

220. Clane 

relocation, 

1.2 miles. 1,035.000 




YEAS-182 

Alden Durham McClatchy Salvatore 

Anderson Emerson Mclntyre San~lna~, 

Armstrong Evans McMonagle Scrafmi 

Any Fee McVenr SNmty 

Barber fleck Mackowski Shom 

Belardi Foster. W. W. Madigan SirLvlni 

Belfanti Foster, Jr., A. Maialc Smith, B. 

Berson Frazier Manderino Smith, E. H. 

Bittle Freind Manmiller Smith, L. E. 

Blaum Gallagher Marmion Snyder 

Borski Gallen Merry Spencer 

Bowrer Gannon Michlovic Spitz 

Boyes Geist Miwzzie Stairs 

Brand1 Gladcck Miller Steighnsr


Brown Grabowski Miscevich Stevens 

Burd Greenfield Moehlmann Stewart 

Burns Greenwood Mowery Stuban 

Caltagirone Grieca Mrkonic Swaim 

Cappabianca Gruitza Mullen Sweet 

Cawley GNPPO Murphy Swift 

Cessar Hagany Nahill Taddanio 

Cimini Hasay Noye Taylor, E. Z. 

Civera Hayes O'Donnell Taylor, F. E. 

Clark Hoeffel Oliver Telek 

Clymer Honaman Pendleton Tiguc 

Cochran Horgos Perzel Trello 

Cohen Hutchinson, A. Peterson Van Horne 

Colafella Hutchinson, W. Petrarca Vroon 

Cole Iwis Petcone Wamhach 

Cordisco ltkin Phillips War go 

Cornell Johnson Piccola Wass 

Coslett Kanuck Pievsky Wenger 

Cowell Kennedy Pistella Weston 

Cunningham Klingaman Pitts White 

DcMedio Kowalyshyo Pott Wiggins 

DeVerter Kukovich Pratt Williams, H. 

DeWeese Lashinger Pucciarelli Williams, J. D. 

Daikeler Laughlin Punt Wilson 

Davies Lehr Rappapon Wogan 

Dawida LFSCOY~~Z Rasco Wozniak 

Dietz Levi Reher Wright, D. R. 

Dininni Lewis Richardson Wright, J. L. 

Dombrowski Livengood Rieger Zwikl 

Danatucci Lloyd Rifler 

Dorr Lucyk Rocks Ryan, 

Duffy McCall Rybak Speaker 

NAYS-7 


Fryer Jackson Sieminski 

NOT VOTING-8 

Beloff Gray Kolter Levin 

Gamble Harper Letterman Shupnik 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heiaer Olasr 





Butler, Mr. Burd. 

Mr. BURD. Mr. Speaker, my switch malfunctioned when 

the final passage on HB 1645 was taken. I would like to be 

recorded as voting in the affirmative. 





Will the House agree to the hill on third consideration as 

amended? 

Mr. MOEHLMANN offered the following amendments 

No. A2869: 


and insertinn 

$195,628,000 


(5) L.R.IOW(F07) 

T.R.422 Relocated, 

State Road in South 

Lebanon to Prescott, 

Rd. East of Lebanon, 

4 Lanes Divided 

Relocation: Length 

3.0 Miles. 1,562,000 

(6) L.R.1090(8) T.R.422 

Relocated, Prescott 

Rd. to Berks 

County Line 

4 Lane Divided 

Relocation: Length 

6.0 Miles. 5,136,000 502,000 

171 L.R. IOW(C04). 

T.R.422 ~elocated, 

T.R.743 South of 

Hershey to L.R.424 

Campbelltown, 4 

Lane Divided Reloca- 

tion: Length 

3.1 Miles. 3,285,000 


Will the House agree to the amendmen1 


Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Ccrsar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Carnell 

Coslett 

Cowcll 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVeRer 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 

Foster. Ir., A. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Cannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitra 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Koltcr 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

YEAS-191 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClalchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonade 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micouie 

Miller 

Misccvich 

Moehlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'DonneU 

Oliver 

Pendlcton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Pelronc 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

pot1 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapart 

Rasco 

Reher 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Salvatore 

Saunnan 

Serafi~ 

Seventy 

Showers 

ShupNk 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smilh. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

stcvena 

stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

swm 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tiwe 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

War80 

Wass 

Wenger 

weston 

While 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 

Williams, 1. D. 

Wilson 

Wow 

Wozniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl

~ ~ f f y Livengood Racks Ryan, 

Durham Lloyd Rybak Speaker 

Emerson 

NAYS-5 

Fischer Haluska Morris Wachab 

Fryer 

Gray 

NOT VOTING-I 

EXCUSED-4 







amended? 

Mr. FRAZIER offered the following amendments No. 

A2921 : 

Amend Sec. 2, page I, line 16, by striking out "16181,696,000" 

and inserting 

$184,726,000 


(14) L.R.02075: 

Weyman Rd., 

Whitehall Boro: 

Reconstruct Base, 

Curbs, Stormsewers 

and Catch Basins, 

Resurface: Length 

1.4 Miles. 3,000,000 30,000 3,030,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

YEAS-187 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H 

Blaum Gamble Manmiller smith; L. E. 

Borski Gannon Marmion Snyder 

Bowser Geist Merry Spencer 

Boyes Gladeck Michlavic Spitz 

Brandt Grabowski Micouie Stairs 

Brown Greenfield Miller Steighner 

Burd Greenwood Miscevich Stevens 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clyrner 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 


Gmitza Mowery 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Harper Murphy 

Hasay Nahill 

Hayes Noye 

Hoeffel O'Donnell 



Hutchinson. A. Perzel 


lrvis 

Petrarca 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wembach 

Warga 

Coslett Kanuck Picwla Wass 

Cowell Kennedy Pievsky Wcnger 

Cunningham Klingaman Pistella Weston 

DeMedio Kolter Pitts White 

DeVerter Kowalyshyn Pott Wiggins 

DeWeese Kukovich Pratt W i s , H. 

Daikeler Lashinger PucciareUi Wilson 

Davies Laughlin Punt Wogan 

Dawida Lehr Rappapon Womiak 

Dietz Lescovitz Rasco Wright, D. R. 

Dininni Letter man Reber Wright, J. L. 

Dornbrowski Levi Richardson Zwikl 

Donatueci Lewis Rieger 

Dorr Livengood Ritter Ryan, 

Duffy Lloyd Rocks s~cdff 

Durham 

NAYS-7 

Fischer Haluska Sieminski Williams. 1. D. 

Fryer Morris Wachob 

NOT VOTING-3 

Gray ltkin Levin 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. FRAZIER offered the following amendments No. 

A2920: 

Amend Sec. 2, Daae -. 1. line 16, by striking out "$181,6%.000" 

and inserting 

$182,l04,000 


(14) L.R.02286: 

Churchview Ave. 

Brentwood and 

Baldwin Boros: 

Reconstruct Base, 

Curbs, Stormsewers 

and Catch Basins, 

Resurface: Length 

0.2 Mile. 400,000 8.000 408.000 




YEAS-I89 

Alden Emerson Lucyk Salvatore 

Anderson Evans McCall Saurman 

arm st ran^ Fee McClatchv Snafini 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Belaff 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brawn 

Burd 

Bums 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 

Foster, Ir., A. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieeo 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Mew 

Michlovic 

Miwuie 

Miller 

Misccvich 

MoeNmann 

Scventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spiu 

Stairs 

Steighncr 

stcvenr 

Stewart


Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Fischer 

Fwer 

Deal 

Omitza Mowery 

GNPPO Mrkonic 

Hagarty Mullen 

Harper Murphy 

Hasay Nahill 

Hayes Noye 



Horgos Pendletan 


Hutchinson. W. Peterson 

IN~S Petrarca 

ltkin Pnrone 



Kanuck Pievsky 

Kennedy Pistella 


Kolter Pott 




Laughlin Rappaport 

Lehr Rasco 



Levi Rieger 

Lewis Ritter 


Lloyd Rybak 

NAYS-6 

Haluska Wachob 

MorriS 

NOT VOTING-2 

George Heiser 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wrixht. 1. L. 

Ryan, 

Speaker 




Alden 

Anderson 

Annstrong 

MY 

Barber 

Bclardi 

Bclfanti 

BelOff 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Sauman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Berson 

Biltle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cnchran 

&hen 

Cole 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 


Gamble Marmion 

Gannon Merry 

Geist Michlovic 

Gladeck Micozzie 




Grieco Mowery 

Gmitra Mrkonic 

GNPW 

Hagany 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Harper Nahill 

Hasay Noye 




Horgos Perzel 

Hutchinson, A. Peterson 


lfvis Petrone 






Kolter Pott 




Laughlin Rappapon 

Lehr Rasco 

Lescovitz Rcber 


Levi Rieger 

Levin Ritter 


Lloyd Rybak 

Lucyk 

McCall 

Salvatore 

NAYS-3 - ..-- - 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

stewm 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telck 

Tiwe 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

wargo 

WaSS 

Wcnger 

Weston 

White 

Wianr 

Williams, &I. 

Wiams, 1. D 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Womiak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, I. L. 

Zwikl 

Fryer Haluska Moms 

NOT VOTING-6 


Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration as EEE!: amended? 

Mr. GAMBLE offered the followine - amendments No. 

A2797: I Deal 

Gray 

ltkin 

George 

Lewis 

EXCUSED-4 

Heixr 

Wnehob 

Olasz 

~~~~d set. 2, page 1, line 16, by striking out ~~~8,,696,000~ The question was determined in the affumative, and the 

and inserting 


$182,102,000 


(14) L.R.1016, 1-79, 



Intersection 

amended? 

with L.R.02046 

Coalpit Hollow 

Rd., Ramp A and 

B Construction. 257,000 11,200 38,600 306,800 




Mr. WASS offered the following amendments No. ,42843: 


and inserting 

$182,069,000 

Amend Sec. 2, page 38, by inserting after line 30 

(2) . . L.R.337, T.R.56: 

Bridge over Black Lick 

Creek, Brush Valley 

and East Wheatfield 

Twps. 


281,800 30,000 61.200 373,000 


The following roll call was recorded:


YEAS-190 1 White Two. North 9th 



Amstrong Fee McCall Saurman 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Bonki 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

CIymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 


Foster. W. W. Mclntyre 





Gallen Maiale 



Geist Marmian 

Gladeck Merry 

Grabowski Michlovic 



Grieco Miscevifh 


G~UPPO Mowery 


Harper Mullen 

Hasay Murphy 

Hayes Nahill 

Hoeffel Noye 


Horgos Oliver 

Hutchinson. A. Pendleton 


lrvis Peterson 







Kolter Pitts 


Kukovich Pratl 


Laughlin Punt 

Lehr Rappaport 

Lescovitr Rasco 



Levin Rieger 

Lewis Ritter 


NAYS-6 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spit2 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vraon 

Wambach 

War go 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Williams, J. D, 

Wilson 

Woznxak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Fischer Haluska Sieminski Wachob 

Fryer Morris 

NOT VOTING-I 

Gray 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. WASS offered the following amendments No. A2845: 

Amend Sec. 2, Daae . . I, line 16. . by . striking - out "$181.696.000" 

and inserting 

$181,797,000 

Amend Sec. 2, page 38 by inserting after line 30 

(2) L.R.32053, T.R.954 

Bridge over B and 0 

Railroad Track, 

St., ~xteniion: 

Length 100 feet. 79,800 4,000 17,400 101,200 

On the auestion. 



Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Bel0ff 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

hrski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

cawicy 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cawell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Lauahlin 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVew 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Mew 

Michlovic 

Micouie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Parone 

Phillips 

piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Sauman 

Seralini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

spcncer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

SW& 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

vrooo 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Was 

Wenger 

Wcston 

white 

WiMns 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wo~an 

Dietz ~eh; Rappapon wozniak 

Dininni Lescovitz Rasw Wright, D. R. 

Dombrowski Letterman Rebcr Wright, 1. L. 


Darr Levin Rieger 

Duffy Lewis Ritter Ryan. 

Dutham Livengood Rocks s&m 

NAYS-6 

Fischer Haluska Sieminski Wachob 

Fryer Morris 

NOT VOTING-I 

Gray 

EXCUSED-4 


The question was determined in the affumative, and the 


On the question recurring,


Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration as I NOT VOTING-5 

amended? 

Mr. WASS offered the following amendments No. A2844: 

Amend Sec. 2, page 1, line 16, by striking out "$181,696,W' 

and inserting 

$181,829,200 


(2) L.R.572: T.R.56 

Bridae over B and 

0 ~iilroad Track 

Center Township: 

Length: 100 feet. 92,000 20,000 21,200 133 




YEAS-185 

Alden Durham Lloyd Salvatore 

Anderson Emerson Lucyk Saurman 

Armstrong Fee McCall Serafini 

MY Fleck McClatchy Seventy 

Barber Foster, W. W. Mclntyre Showers 

Belardi Foster, Jr.. A. McMonagle Shupnik 

Belfanti Frazier McVerry Sirianni 

Beloff Freind Mackowski Smith, B. 

Berson Gallagher Madigan Smith, E. H. 

Bittle Gallen Maiale Smith, L. E. 

Blaum Gamble Manderino Snyder 

Borski Gannon Manmiller Spencer 

Bowser Geist Merry Spitz 

Boyes Gladeck Michlovic Stairs 

Brandt Grabowski Micouie Steighner 

Brown Greenfield Miller Stevens 

Burd Greenwood Miscevich Stewart 

Burns Grieco Moehlmann Stvban 

Caltagirone Gruitza Mowery Swaim 

Cappabianca Gmppo Mrkonic Sweet 

Cawley Hagarty Mullen Swift 

Cessar Harper Murphy Taddonio 

Cimini Hasay Nahill Taylor, E. Z. 

Civcra Hayes Noye Taylor, F. E. 

Clark Hoeffel O'Donnell Telek 

Clymer Hanaman Oliver Tigue 

Cochran Horgos Perzel Trello 

Cohen Hutchinson. A. Peterson Van Horne 

Colafella Hutchinson. W. Petrarca Vroon 

Cole lrvis Petrone Wambach 

Cordisco ltkin Phillips Warga 

Cornell Jackson Piccola Wass 

Coslett Johnson Pievsky Wenger 

Cowell Kanuck Pistella Weston 

Cunningham Kennedy Pitts White 

DeMedio Klingaman Pott Williams, H. 

DeVerter Kolter Pratt Williams, J. D. 

DeWeese Kowalyshyn Pucciarelli Wilson 

Daikclcr Kukovich Punt Wogan 

Davies Lashinger Rappapon Wozniak 

Dawida Laughlin Rasco Wright, D. R. 

Dietr Lehr Reber Wright, J. L. 

Dininni Lescovitz Richardson Zwikl 

Dombrowski Letterman Rieger 

Donatucci Levi Ritter Ryan. 

Dorr Levin Rocks Speaker 

Duffy Livengood Rybak 

NAYS-7 


Fryer Marmion Sieminski 

Evans Lewis Pendleton Wiam 

tray 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. FEE offered the following amendments No. A2849: 


and inserting 

$182,101,000 


(3) L.R. 1023, 

T.R.60 (Sec. IS), 

Beaver Valley 

Expy. Design 

of 4 Lane 

Highway: Length 

16.2 Miles. 405.000 405,WO 




YEAS-190 



Armstrong Fee McCall Saurman 

Arty Fleck McClatchy Serafmi 

Barber Foster, W. W. Mclntyre Seventy 

Belardi Foster, Jr., A. McMonagle Showers 

Belfanti Frarier McVerry Shupnik 

Beloff Freind Mackowski Sieminski 

Berron Gallagher Madigan Sinanni 

Bittle Gallen Maiale Smith. B. 

Blaum Camblc Manderino Smith. E. H. 

Borski Gannon Manmiller Smith. L. E. 

Bowser Geist Marmion Snyder 

Boyes Gladeck Merry Spencer 

Brandt Grabowski Michlovic Spitr 

Brown Greenfield Micovie Stairs 

Burd Greenwood Miller Steighner 

Burns Grieco Misccvich Stevens 

Caltagirone Gruitza Moehlmann Stewart 

Cappabianca Cruppo Mowery Stuban 

Cawley Hagarty Mrkonic Swaim 

Cessar Haluska Mullen Sweet 

Cimini Harper Murphy Swift 

Civera Hayes Nahill Taddonio 

Clark Hocffcl Noyc Taylor. E. Z. 

Clymer Honaman O'DonneU Taylor, F. E. 

Cochran Horgos Oliver Telck 

Cohen Hutchinson, A. Pendleton Tigue 

Colafella Hutchinson, W. Pcrzel TreUo 

Cole lrvis Peterson Van Home 

Cordisco ltkin Petrarea Vrwn 

Cornell Jackson Petrone Wambach 

Coslett Johnson Phillips Wargo 

Cowell Kanuck Piccola Ww 

Cunningham Kennedy Picvsky Wengcr 

DeMcdia Klingaman Pistella Weston 

DeVeRer Kolter Pitts White 

DeWeew Kowalyshyn Pott Williams, H. 

Daikeler Kukovich Pratt Williams. 1. D. 

Davicr Lashinger Pucciarelli Wilson 

Dawida Laughlin Punt wow 

Dietz Lehr Rappapan Womiak

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Fischet 

Fryer 

Gray Hasay 

Lescovitz Raxo 



Levin Rieger 

Lewis Ritter 


NAYS-5 

Morris Wachob 

NOT VOTING-2 

EXCUSED-4 


Wright, D. R. 

Wright, 1. L. 

7wikl 

Ryan, 

Spaker 



On the auestion recurring, . 


amended? 

Mr. FEE offered the following amendments No. A2829: 


and inserting 

$181,803,000 


(3) T.R.317: 

Bessmer Boro. 

Roadway Realignment: 

Length 4.86 Miles. 106,000 1,000 107,000 




YEAS-189 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordixo 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Crieco 

Gruitza 

G~PPO 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Hargos 

Hutchinsan, A. 


lwis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderina 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Mieouie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piceola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroon 

Wambach 

wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

DeMedio Kennedy 

DeVerter Klingaman 

DcWeese Kolter 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Danatucci 

Dorr 

nllffv 

-.~~, -~ 

Kowalyshyn 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Liven~~d 

~~~ - 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Puceiarelli 

Punt 

Rappapart 

R~SCO 

Reber 

Rieger 

Riftcr 

Rocks 

Rvbak 

Durham Lloyd ~ivatore 

NAYS-5 

Wins 

Williams, H. 


Wogan 

W0vliak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, 1. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Fischer Morris Richardson Wachob 

Fryer 

NOT VOTING-3 

Gray Kukovich Lewis 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heiscr Dlasz 





amended? 

Mr. CAWLEY offered the following amendments No. 

A2975: 

Amend Sec. 2. .. oaee - 1. line 16. . by . striking . out "$181,696,000" 

and inserting 

$182,241,000 


(7) Green Ridge 

St. ridge^ 

Over Lackawanna 

River Replacement 700,000 25.000 725,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Borski 

Bawscr 

Bayes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frzier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwwd 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

GNPPO 

Hamy 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 


YEAS-185 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyrc 

McMonagle 

McVeny 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Mev 

Michlovic 

Micouie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkonie 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pmdleton 

Scrafmi 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swccf 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Tclek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home

Colafella 

Cole 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 


lrvis 

Itkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Perzl 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

Pott 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappaport 

Rasco 

Reber 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 


Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Cordisco Fryer Morris Wachob 

Fischer Haluska 

NOT VOTING-6 

Blaum Lewis Richardson Saurman 

Gray Pratt 

EXCUSED-4 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeex 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hacffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



l~is 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

MuUen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'DonneU 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

POtt 

Pratt 

Stuban 

Swaim 

SWM 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Tipe 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroan 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Wcston 

White 

Wi&s 

Williams. H. 

Williams. 1. D 

Dawida Lashinger Pucciarelli Wilson 

Dietz Laughlin Punt Wogan 

Dininni Lehr Rappaport Wozniak 

Dombrowski Lescovitr Raxo Wright, D. R. 

Donatucei Letterman Reber Wright, 1. L. 

Dorr Levi Richardson Zwikl 

Duffy Levin Rieger 

Durham Lewis Ritter Ryan, 

Emerson Livengood Rocks Spcakcr 

NAYS-5 


Fischer Pitts Taylor, E. 2. Wachob 

The question waq determined in the affirmative, and the Fryer 


NOT VOTING-2 

On the question recurring, Blaum Gray 


EXCUSED-4 

amended? 

Deal George Heixr Olasz 

Mr. KOLTER offered the following amendments No. 

A772n. 

The question was determiried in the affirmative, and the 

A -.

(L.R.23047) and 

Extend from West of 

Benedict Ave. and 

Bailey Park where a 

Retention System 

will be constructed - - - - - - 2,000,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

ARY 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davier 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Evans Lucyk 

Fee McCall 


Foster, W. W. McIntyre 





Gallen Maiale 



Geist Marmion 

Gladeck Merry 






Gruppo Mowery 



Harper Murphy 

Hasay Nahill 

Hayes Noye 






lwis Petrarca 

ltkin Petrone 





Kolter Pitts 




Laughlin Punt 

Lehr Rasco 



Levi Rieger 

Levin Ritter 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Rocks 

NAYS-8 


Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vroan 

Wambach 

Warga 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wilson 

0 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R 

Wright. I. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Fiseher Morris Sieminski Wachob 

Fryer Rappapon Spencer Williams. J. D. 

NOT VOTING-5 

Brandt Gray Kanuck Lewis 

Emerson 






amended? 

Mr. NAHILL offered the following amendments No. 

A2971 : 


and insertinn 

e1sr,s21,000 


(14) L.R.46121 

Ashbourne Road 

Over Tacony 

Creek: Bridge 

Replacement 

Length 

0.1 Mile. 100,000 15,000 10,000 125,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrang 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Callaghcr 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

GNPP~ 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lwis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

YEAS-186 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

McIntyre 

McMonagle 

McVetry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Msiak 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micouie 

Miller 

Miacevich 

Maehlmann 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendlelon 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarclli 

Punt 

Rappapan 

Rasco 

Reber 

Richardson 

Rieser 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

SeratiN 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Stcighner 

stevcns 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

swm 

Swift 

TaddoNo 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tiye 

Trcllo 

Van Home 

Vroon 

Wambach 

wargo 

Wass 

Wcngcr 

Weston 

White 

Wig& 

Wis, H. 

William, J. D 

wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, I. L. 

Zwikl


NAYS-5 

Fischer Morris Pitts Wachob 

Fryer 

NOT VOTING-6 

Emerson Kanuck Lewis Wilson 

Gray Levin 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. GRUITZA offered the following amendments No. 

A2898: 

Amend Sec. 2. page I, line 16, by striking out "$181,696,000" 

and inserting 

$181,769,000 


(2) L.R.238 

T.R.318: Spur B 

West Middlesex 

Bridge, Critical 

Bridge Program. 73,000 73,000 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

ARY 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

LkMedio 

LkVener 

DeWase 

Durham 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gmilza 

GNPW 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Koltcr 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Mandedno 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Miconie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Mowcry 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Pcr2el 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pott 

Pratt 

Pvcciarelli 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Daikeler Kowalyshyn Punt WOgan 

Davies Kukovich Rappapon Womiak 

Dawida Lashinger Rasco Wright. D. R. 

Dietz Laughlin Reba Wright, J. L. 

Dininni Lehr Richardson Zwikl 

Dombrowski Lescovitz Rieger 

Donatucci Letterman Ritter Ryan, 

Darr Levi Rocks Speaker 

Duffy Livengood Rybak 

NAYS-7 


F~~~ Pitts Taylor, E. Z. 

NOT VOTING-5 

Emerson Levin Lewis Pdronc 

Gray 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heiwr OlW 


amendments were agreed to, 



amended? 







Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

&Ifanti 

BelOff 

Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

- 

Calta~irone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

Deweese 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 


Fruier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Gdeco 

Gmitza 

GNPW 

Hagany 

Halusks 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hocffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Koltcr 

Kowalyshyn 

YEAS-186 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Mandcrino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micorde 

Miller 

Misavich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mow cry 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donndl 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Pclrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piemla 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pot1 

Pratt 

Pucdarelli 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

ScrafiN 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shup~k 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stncns 

steuarl 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swat 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

TrcU0 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wrnbach 

wargo 

Was 

Wengr 

Weston 

White 

W i m 

Wiuims. H. 

Williuns. J. D.


Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Kukavich 

Lashinger 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

Punt Wilson 

Rappaport 

RBSCO 

Reber 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Wagan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R 

Wright, 1. L. 

Zwikl 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

NAYS-6 

Ryan. 

Speaker 

Dambrowski Laughlin Tigue Wachab 

Fischer Pitts 

NOT VOTING-5 

Emerson Kanuck Levin Lewis 

Gray 

EXCUSED-4 




tive. 

Ordered, That the clerk present the same to the Senate for 

concurrence. 

Mr. DAVIES. A parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. 



Mr. DAVIES. Mr. Speaker, would it be possible on the last 

set of amendments to the past piece of legislation to request 

that my vote be cast in the negative conditionally to certain 

amendments? In other words, Mr. Speaker, would it be 

I possible to cast a conditional negative vote to those amend- 

ments, for example, of members who did not vote for the 

funding of such a piece of legislation? 

The SPEAKER. Now, the gentleman knows better. 

Mr. DAVIES. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


CONSIDERATION CONTINUED 



An Act amending the act of April 9, 1929 (P. L. 177, No. 175). 

entitled "The Administrative Code of 1929," providing for the 

fixing of fees charged by administrative agencies; further 

orovidinr for the ourchases of handicaoped-made ~roducts and 

- . . 

1 

services 

' 

and making repeals. 

STATEMENT BY MR. KOLTER 

On 


Beaver, Mr. Kolter. For what purpose does the gentleman 

rise? 

Mr. KOLTER. Mr. Speaker, may I speak very briefly on 

the bill just passed? 


proceed to speak briefly on the bill that we just passed. 

Mr. KOLTER. Mr. Speaker, I think we just passed a very 

important piece of legislation. I think, if 1 recall correctly, this 

I 

the question, 


Mr. WILSON offered the following amendments No. 

A2862: 

Amend Sec. I (Sec. 607-A), page 6, lines 25 through 29, by 

striking out all of said lines and inserting 

(i) New establishments 

(A) New establishments that are 

owner operated with a seating 

capacity of less than 50 .......... 

S 30.00 

is the first highway capital budget since 1973. However, in 

(B) All other new establishments .... 

- 100.00 

reviewing this budget, the revelation becomes thoroughly (ii) Renewal or change of ownership ..... 

discouraging to us Democrats, because there is a dispropor- 

30.00 

tionate amount of moneys being spent in Republican areas, 

(iii) Duplicate license for each additional 

- ~ 

and I iust want to brieflv show vou what I mean. 

business location 

I .................. 

- 5.00 

The dollar value for projects in the Governor's budget (iv) Temporary license ....................... 

- 1 .OO 

proposal for Democratic districts was $58,240,000. The 

Amend Set, (Set, 614.A), page 23, line 26, by striking out 

approximate moneys in the Republican districts from his 

andinserting 

proposal were $64,163,000. However, the dollar values in the 

er air carrier 

272 projects listed in HB 1687 show that the Democratic 

Set, I (Set, 614-A), page 23, line 28, by striking out 

districts receive $65,620,000, whereas the Republican districts 

and inserting 

receive $113 million. What this means in everyday arithmetic 

er air carrier 

is the Democratic districts receive approximately $7 million in 

Set, (Set. 614-A), page tl, line 6, by striking out 

new moneys as opposed to $50 million for Republicans. 

"AIRCRAFT" and inserting 

Now you know, Mr. Speaker, 1 spent many hours with 

per air carrier 

Secretary Tom Larson, whom I consider one of the finest, if 

Amend Set, (Set, 614-A), page %, line 8, striking out 

not the finest, Secretary of Transportation, and many times in 

ccAIRCRAm, and inserting 

our meetings he stated that nohow would he play partisan 

per air carrier 

politics. You be the judge. 

Amend Sec. 2. - page - 31, lines 13 and 14, by striking 

out "IS" in line 13, all of line 14, and inserting 


, added December 3, 1970 (P.L.834, No. 275), 

is amended to read: 

The SPEAKER. For what purpose does the gentleman 

Section 1918-A. Water Supply.-The Department of 

from Berks, Mr. Davies, rise? 

Environmental Resources shall have the power and its 

duty shall be: 

. .


(3) To make a bacteriological examination and 

report of any sample of water sent by any person to the 

department's laboratory at Philadelphia or Pittsburgh. 

[A fee of one dollar ($1) shall be charged for the service 

rendered in making the examination and report.] 


and inserting 

Section 5. (a) Sections 1,2 and 4 of this act shall take 

effect immediately. 

(h) Section 3 of this act shall take effect in 60 days. 

JUNE 30, 

The SPEAKER. As well as the portion on the second page. 

Mr. WILSON. I understand. 

The SPEAKER. On the question, the Chair recognizes the 

gentleman, Mr. Fryer. 

Mr. FRYER. We are dealing now, Mr. Speaker, with the 

two portions of the bill, not with the aircraft section? 

The SPEAKER. The two portions of the amendment to the 

bill. That is correct. 

Mr. FRYER. Excluding the aircraft section? 

The SPEAKER. Excluding the aircraft section. 

n.. *I.- -..--A:-- I Mr. FRYER. I have no comment, Mr. Speaker 

ulr rrrs qucarrvrr, 


The SPEAKER. On the question, all those in favor of the 

amendment as divided-that is. the first section on the first 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from page and [he entire second page-will vote opposed, 

Bucks, Mr. Wilson. ‘.no ,3 

Mr. WILSON. Mr. Speaker, the amendment that 1 have 

offered here has three sectors to it. Mr. Speaker, page 6 of SB 

- -. 


Will the House agree to Part I of the amendments? 

425 soeaks to eating and drinking olaces. What the first Dart 

of the amendment does is add another section in there that the The following roll call was recorded: 

seating capacity of less than 50 people would be at $30 instead 

of the $100, and it retains much of the rest of the language. 

On page 23, line 26-1 think this was probably an over- Alden 

Anderson 

sight-it provides for $125 per aircraft for a liquor license, Armstrong 

really, in flying through Pennsylvania. I understood that that Arty 

was to be air carriers, so that the air carriers such as USAir Barber 

Belardi 

would have one license for all its aircraft. That is a problem if Belfanti 

we leave it as it is. 


The last part of the amendment is language that was inad- Berson 

Bittle 

vertently left out of the bill when it was redrafted. 

Blaum 

Borski 

AMENDMENTS DIVIDED 

Bowser 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Boyes 

Brandt 

Berks, Mr. Fryer. 

Brown 

Mr. FRYER. As the gentleman has stated, Mr. Speaker, the Burd 

bill has three portions. I would request of the Speaker that the Burns 

Caltagironc 

amendment be divided. The portion that I would seek to omit Cappabianca 

would be "Amend Sec. l...page 23, line 26, by striking out Cawley 

'AIRCRAFT' and inserting per air carrier" and the rest of the Cessar 

Cimini 

portion of the amendment to the bottom of the page which Civera 

deals with that one particular subject, Mr. Speaker. 

Clark 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman's request is in order. 

Clymer 

Cochran 

It is the Chair's understanding that the gentleman is Cohen 

requesting that the amendment be divided so that two votes Colafella 

will be necessary on the amendment. 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Mr. FRYER. Yes, Mr. Speaker. 

Cornell 

The SPEAKER. All right. Now I would Like the members to Coslett 

pay attention. 

Cawell 

DeMedio 

The first vote, Mr. Fryer, would be on the first page, DeVerter 

"Amend Sec. 1. . (Sec. . 607-A) ...." down to but excludine - DeWcese 

"Amend Sec. 1 (Sec. 614-A), ..." as well as all of the materials Daikeler 

Davies 

on the second page of the amendment starting "Amend Sec. Dawida 

2, page 31, ..." down to and including the end. Is that accu- Dielr 

rate? 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Mr. FRYER. Yes, Mr. Speaker. 

Donatucci 

The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman, Mr. Wilson, under- Dorr 

stand the division? 

Duffy 

Durham 

Mr. WILSON. Yes, Mr. Speaker. The first vote will be on Evans 

the first portion, excluding the aircraft section. I Fee 

YEAS-191 

Fischer Lucyk 

Fleck McCall 

Faster. W. W. McClatchy 

Foster, Jr., A. Mclntyre 

Frazier McMonagle 

Freind McVerry 

Fryer Mackowski 


Gallen Maiale 


Ceist Manmiller 

Cladeck Marmion 

Grabowski Merrv 

Greenfield ~ichiovic 

Greenwood Micouie 

Grieco 

Miller 

Gruitza Misccvich 

Gruppo Moehlmann 

Hagarty Morris 

Haluska Mowery 

Harper Mrkonic 

Hasay 

Mullen 

Hayes Murphy 

Hoeffel Nahill 

Honaman Noye 

Horgos O'DonneU 

Hutchinson, A. Oliver 

Hutchinson. W. Pmdlnon 

lrvis Perzel 

itkin Peterson 

Jackson Petrarca 

Johnson Petrone 

Kanuck Phillips 

Kennedy Piccola 

Klingaman Pievsky 

Kolter Pistella 

Kowalvshvn Pitts 

~ukovici Pott 


Laughlin PucciareUi 

Lehr Punt 

Leseovitz Rappaport 

Letterman Raxo 

Levi Reber 


Lewis Rieger 

Livengood Rittcr 

Llovd Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Smenty 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snvder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Stcighner 

Stevens 

Stewm 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telck 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wachab 

Wambach 

wargo 

Was 

Wcngcr 

Weston 

Winnins 

~lams. H. 


Wilson 

wogan 

Womiak 

Wright, D. R 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Souksr

Cunningham 

NAYS-I 

NOT VOTING-5 

Emerson Gray Sweet White 

Gannan 

EXCUSED-4 



The question was determined in the affirmative, and Part I 

of the amendments was agreed to. 

The SPEAKER. The second vote before the House will be 

that portion of amendment A2862 that begins with "Amend 

Sec. 1 (Sec. 614-A), ..." down to and including "per air 

carrier" at the bottom of page 1 of the amendment. 

On the question, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from 


Mr. FRYER. Mr. Speaker, I oppose this amendment. I 

invite the members of the House to the bill itself. What the bill 

calls for is the term "aircraft." Mr. Wilson is removing 

"aircraft," striking "aircraft," and inserting "per air 

carrier." Now, under the first section there is a license fee of 

$125. What this means is- Let us take TWA - Trans World 

Airlines - for instance. Under Mr. Wilson's proposal they 

would pay one fee, a license fee of $125, and that would cover 

all of their planes. Now, Mr. Speaker, in looking at the hill it 

indicates, as you will note, that, for instance, there is a license 

fee for railroad cars, per car, as the reading goes; steamship or 

vessel, per vessel; license fee, aircraft; railroad car, which 

indicates one item. Now, what he is doing here is consoli- 

dating, and he is removing revenue which I feel should be 

coming to the Commonwealth. 

Further on in this same amendment there is a $45 transfer 

fee. There is also a $45 license fee for liquor. There is a $45 

license fee for malt liquor. Now, Mr. Speaker, what we would 

would have cost them $31,250, $31,250, just to have permission 

to serve liquor on any one aircraft that might be serving 

liquor at any one time in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. 

TWA, the next biggest carrier, is $18,750. I think that it is 

unreasonable to go from zero, zero, to $31,250 on a licet~se 

fee to serve liquor at any one time on any one plane in the 

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and that is why I offer the 

amendment, to say that the air carriers shall buy a license for 

$125 and therefore be able to sell liquor as an air carrier, the 

same air carrier, on any of the aircraft that happen to be in 

Pennsvlvania at any one time. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman, Mr. 

Fryer. 

Mr. FRYER. Mr. Speaker, it seems to me that this proposal 

is not fair, and in a moment, when we go into final passage of 

the bill, I wish to point out certain portions of the bil that I 

wish had been given the compassion that is being attempted 

here for our airlines. 

As far as USAir, I understand they transport-and advertise 

so, that they transport-more passengers than any other 

line. I do not believe there is a great problem here. I believe in 

this instance we should stick with what was written in the 

provisions of the bill as it was submitted to this House. 1 

would seek the members* support in rejecting this amendment. 


Beaver, Mr. Kolter. 

Mr. KOLTER. Mr. Speaker, I urge adoption of this 

amendment. If the members of the House read the Wall Street 

Journal as I do, they will find that every quarter the airlines 

show tremendous losses of revenue. I would hate like heck to 

feel that my vote against them would create losses of jobs and 

perhaps of the industry here, so I would urge a "yes" vote. 


Will the House agree to Part I1 of the amendments? 

have is, with the air carriers, the different large lines -Eastern, 

TWA, US, what have you -they would be paying one fee for The following roll call was recorded: 

all of their planes. This completely changes the bill as it has 

been written. and it reoresents a decline in revenue, a decline 

in revenue, for the Commonwealth. Mr. Speaker, I oppose 

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Alden 

I Anderson 

the amendment. Arrnstran~ 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from A& " 

Fmier McIntyrc 

Freind McVeny 

Galla~her Mackowski 

Gallen 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E 

Bucks, Mr. Wilson. 

Mr. WILSON. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman's 

interest in the decline in revenue, but I think one thing has to 

be pointed out here. First of all, the state has never collected, 

never collected, any fee whatsoever from any airline that is 

selling liquor going through the State of Pennsylvania. Now, 

the two major airlines that I know of are USAir and TWA 

that have flights going through here regularly and give most 

of the service. Their service of liquor during the state prob- 

Belardi 


BiUle 

Bowser 

BowS 

Brandt 

Burd 

Bums 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cirnini 

Civera 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Gcist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenwood 

Grieca 

Gmitza 

Grup~o 

Hagany 

Harper 

Hayes 

Maiale 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Mowery 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noyc 

O'DonneU 

Pmdleion 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spiu 

Steighner 

Stevms 

StewM 

Stuban 

Swairn 

Swift 

Tsddonio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor. F. E. 

ably amounts to one or two airplanes at a time. What you are 

saying is, however, that every aircraft in the fleet of USAir, 

which is based in Allegheny County by the way, would have to 

have a license because the airline does not know which aircraft 

is going to fly the route in Pennsylvania and serve liquor at 

that point, so they would have to have a license for every one. 

For USAir, based in Allegheny County, I estimate that it 

CIYrner 

Cochran 

,-ohen 

Cornell 

Co"ett 

Cowell 

DeMedio 

DcVener 

Diukeler 

Davles 






Kanuck PisteUa 

Kennedy Pitts 


Kalter Punt 


Laughlin Reber 

Telek 

Tigue 

Vrwn 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

W i s , H. 

Wilson 

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w o ~ &


Dininni Lehr Rieger Wright, D. R. 

Dorr Levi Rocks Wright. 1. L. 

Duffy Levin Salvatore Zwikl 

Durham Lloyd Serafini 

Fee Lucyk Seventy Ryan, 

Fleck McCall Sicminski Speaker 

Foster, W. W. McClatchy 

NAYS-61 

Barber Emerson Letterman Richardson 

&Ifanti Evans Livengood Ritter 

Berson Fischer McMonagle Rybak 

Blaum Foster, Jr., A. Manderino Saurman 

Bonki Fryer Michlovic Showers 

Brown Greenfield Moehlmann Shupnik 

Caltagirone Haluska Morris Stairs 

Cappabianca Hasay Mrkonic Sweet 

Colafella Hoeffel Mullen Trello 

Cole Horgas Oliver Van Horne 

Cordisco Hutchinson, A. Petrone Wachob 

Cunningham lwis Pievsky Wambach 

DeWeese Kowalyshyn Pratt White 

Dawida Kukovich Pucciarelli Wiggins 

Dombrowski Lescovitz Rappaport Williams, J. D. 

Donatucci 

NOT VOTING-4 

Clark Gray Lewis Miscevich 

EXCUSED-4 


The question was determined in the affirmative, and Part 11 

of the amendments was agreed to. 



amended? 

Mr. LLOYD offered the following amendments No. 

A2566: 

~~~~d ~ i ~ page l ~ , line 21, by inserting after uAGEN. 

CIES;" 

further providing for public relations 

and budgets; 

Amend Bill, page 31 by inserting between lines 12 and 13 

Section 2. Section 613 of the act is amended by adding a 

clause to read: 

Secti6n 613. Submission of Budget to General Assembly.- 

As soon as possible after the oraanization of the General 

Assembly, but not later than the firit full week in February of 

each year, except in the case where a Governor has been elected 

for his first term of office and then no later than the first full 

week in March, the Governor shall submit to the General 

Assembly copies of agency budget requests and a State budget 

and program and financial plan embracing: 

*** 

Amend Sec. 2, page 31, line 13. by striking out "2." and 

inserting 

3. 

Amend Sec. 3, page 31, line 15, by striking out "3." and 

inserting 

4. 


inserting 

5. 


inserting 

6. 





Mr. LLOYD. Mr. Speaker, very briefly, this amendment 

would require that beginning with next year's budget, the 

submission to the General Assembly include as a separate line 

item for each administrative department, board, agency, and 

commission the amount of money proposed to be spent on 

public relations. 

The purpose of the amendment is twofold: One, to permit a 

comparison of changes over time, either the growth or the 

decline in spending; and secondly, to provide a starting point 

to judge whether some departments are spending too tittle on 

informing the public and other depanments are spending tM, 

much. 

I might note in support of the amendment an analogy to 

what the Reagan administration is doing in Washington. The 

President has quite properly ordered a freeze on public rela- 

tions spending and in fact has ordered cuts in many agencies. 

My amendment does not go that far. What it does do, 

however, consistent with the President's program, is to focus 

the attention on the issue of how much should be spent on 

public relations and provide a basis for possible freezes and 

cuts in the future. I urge adoption of the amendment. 



Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, I oppose the amend- 

ment. 




Alden 

Barber 

&Ifanti 


Berson 

Bkum 

Borski 

Brown 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Clark 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cunningham 

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Durham Lloyd 

Evans 

Lueyk 

Fee 

Mclntyre 

Fischer Maiale 

Fryer Manderino 

Gallagher Michlovic 

Gamble Misavich 

Gray Moms 

Gmitza Mrkonic 

Haluska MuUen 

Harper Murphy 


Horgos Oliver 

Hutchinson, A. Pcndlnon 

IN~S Perarea 

ltkin Petrone 

Kolter Pievsky 

Kowalyrhyn Pistella 

Rybak 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Stairs 

Stcianer 

StcwaR 

Swaim 

swm 

Taylor, F. E. 

Time 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

White 

Wiggins


DeMedio 

DeWeese 

Dawida 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Duffy 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Belardi 

Bittlc 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Burd 

Burns 

Cessar 

Cimini 



Lescovitz Rappaport 


Levin Rieger 

Livengood Rilter 

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Gallen Madigan 

Geist Manmiller 

Gladeck Marmion 

Grabowski Merry 

Greenfield Micovie 



Gruppo Mowcry 

Hagarty Nahill 

Hasav Nave 

Williams, H. 


Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Zwikl 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, 8. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stevens 

Stuban 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Civera Hayes ~cr.zel Taylor, E. Z. 

Clymer Honaman Peterson Telek 

Cornell Hutchinson, W. Phillips Vraon 

Coslett Jackson Piccola Wass 

Cowell Johnson Pitts Wenger 

DeVerter Kanuck Pott Weston 

Daikeler Kennedy Punt Wilson 

Davies Klingaman Rasco Wogan 

Dietz Lashinger Reber Wright, 1. L. 

Dininni Lehr Racks 

Fleck Levi Salvatore Ryan, 

Foster. W. W. McCall Saurman Speaker 

Foster, Jr.. A. McClatchy Serafini 

NOT VOTING-5 

Dorr Gannon Lewis McManagle 

Emerson 

EXCUSED-4 


, The question was determined in the negative, and the 

I amendments were not agreed to. 



amended? 

Mr. TRELLO offered the following amendment No. 

A2687: 

Amend Sec. 1 (Sec. 610-A), page 9, by inserting between lines 

22 and 23 

(2) Abortion clinic . 

el'ooo'oo 

An abortion clinic is a 

hospital, clinic or other 

building or office used to 

perform abortions 




Allegheny, Mr. Trello. 

Mr. TRELLO. Mr. Speaker, under the Federal Abortion 

Control Act, establishments that perform abortions are 

allowed to perform abortions with no fee charged. What this 

amendment does is impose a $1,000 fee on all establishments 

that perform abortions. In no way does this legalize abortions, 

but I feel that I am totally opposed to abortions of any 

kind, and I feel that a $1,000 fee might just discourage some 

establishments from opening. I would appreciate support 

from both sides of theaisle. Thank you. 


Montgomery, Mr. Hoeffel. 

Mr. HOEFFEL. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I rise to support this amendment. I think it is high time the 

state legitimized abortions. 1 congratulate Mr. Trello for his 

foresight in saying that the state ought to give its stamp of 

approval to the abortion process, and 1 hope we all vote for it. 

Thank you. 


Philadelphia, Mr. Rappaport. 

Mr. RAPPAPORT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Will the gentleman from Allegheny stand for interrogation? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Trello, indicates he 

will stand for interrogation. The gentleman, Mr. Rappaport. 

may proceed. 

Mr. RAPPAPORT. Mr. Speaker, I finally have a copy of 

the amendment. Would the gentleman include within the defi- 

nition of this type of facility a regularly licensed hospital in 

Pennsylvania? 

Mr. TRELLO. 1 did not hear the question. Mr. Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman repeat his question? 

Mr. RAPPAPORT. Yes, Mr. Speaker. 

Does the gentleman include within his definition of an 

abortion clinic a regularly licensed hospital, such as the 

Hershey Medical Center? 

Mr. TRELLO. Yes. 

Mr. RAPPAPORT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Philadelphia, Mr. Mullen. 

M,. MULLEN. Mr. Speaker, 1 support the amendment for 

the simple reason that we have to recognize the facts of life. 

Most of us in this House oppose abortion, but we have to 

recognize that the Supreme Court of the United States has 

indicated to us in Pennsylvania that abortion is legal. 

Now, the reason we are putting this amendment in to 

charge $1,000 is to try to discourage the abortion clinics from 

continuing. Now, I do not think that it is going to discourage 

them too much. I would like to put in $100,000, but I know 

that if we put in $100,000, the courts would strike that down. 

We are just putting in $1,000 because we feel that that is 

reasonable, and we have a fee bill before us that has no charge 

whatever for abortion clinics. That is the only reason I am 

supporting it. Certainly everyone knows that I do not support 

abortion, but I think that by doing this we are indicating in 

the only way that we can that we discourage them from 

continuing a practice which we dislike. Thank you. 


Trello. 

Mr. TRELLO. Mr. Speaker, I RePresenta- 

tive HOeffel, please? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman frorn MontgomW, Mr. 

Hoeffel, indicates he is willing to be interrogated. The 

gentlemanmayproceed. 

Mr. TRELLO. Mr. Speaker, at any time since You have 

known me, did I ever indicate to you that 1 support legalized 

abortion?


Mr. HOEFFEL. No. 

Mr. TRELLO. That is all. Thank you very much. 

May I make a statement, Mr. Speaker? 


proceed. 

Mr. TRELLO. Mr. Speaker, I have been involved in prolife 

for the past 20 years. I clearly stated when I offered this 

amendment that it was to discourage abortion clinics from 

opening, and if the gentleman would have read the amend- 

ment, I think he could have assumed that. I am highly insulted 

by the fact that somebody would get up and say that I would 

support legalized abortions. I totally oppose them. This 

amendment totally discourages anybody from opening up an 

abortion clinic, and I would appreciate everybody in the 

House supporting the amendment. Thank you. 


Centre, Mr. Cunningham. 

Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, I would just like to say 

that I support the amendment as a consequence of the fact 

that abortion in Pennsylvania is a multimillion-dollar annual 

industry that is not performed generally as a therapeutic kind 

of situation; it is performed as a matter of convenience. It is 

performed by entrepreneurs who are profit motivated and are 

involved in a commercial enterprise, and I think it is only 

appropriate that they should pay the same kind of licensing 

fee that any other business would be required to pay, and I 

encourage support. 


Philadelphia, Mrs. Harper. 

Mrs. HARPER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I rise to oppose this amendment. This is just another 

amendment against poor women. For wealthy women, $1,000 

is nothing. They will pay $1,000 and have the abortion. It is 

just something against poor women. That is why I oppose this 

amendment. 


Berks, Mr. Davies. 

Mr. DAVIES. Mr. Speaker, would the maker of the 

amendment stand for one or two questions of interrogation? 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman from Allegheny, Mr. 

Trello, stand for interrogation? Mr. Davies would like to 

interrogate the gentleman. 

The gentleman indicates he will stand for interrogation. 

The gentleman, Mr. Davies, may proceed. 

Mr. DAVIES. Mr. Speaker, if this does not come under the 

confines of the profit motivation and business aspects that the 

last speaker spoke to, and would be in the normal practice of 

a physician in an approved hospital in which a victim of rape 

or incest or the matter of the- In the confines of your defini- 

tion of "clinic," this does not include a medical man making 

a decision in a hospital in which he has the right to practice- 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman, Mr. Davies, yield? 

Does the gentleman, Mr. Trello, understand the nature of 

the question? 

Mr. TRELLO. No, I do not. Mr. Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman, Mr. Davies, ask the 

question again? 

Mr. DAVIES. Yes, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker, this clinic does not include the normal prac- 

tice of a physician in his hospital where he is registered to 

practice, and does not involve the normal relations between a 

patient and doctor where there would be a case of incest, rape, 

or the matter of the life of the individual involved seeking out 

that treatment? Am I to interpret that correctly? 

Mr. TRELLO. I do not think the bill speaks to private 

physicians. I think it speaks to the establishment that 

performs abortions. 

Mr. DAVIES. In other words, this is by definition then that 

definition that one of the former speakers spoke to most 

recently? 

Mr. TRELLO. I am sorry, but I did not hear the question. 

Mr. DAVIES. In other words, it only speaks to those types 

of enterprises that are for profit or capital gain or for some 

reason in the practice rather than the normal hospital 

conducting its business based on doctor-client relationship, a 

professional relationship? 

Mr. TRELLO. It only speaks to establishments licensed by 

the Abortion Control Act, period. 

Mr. DAVIES. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Lehigh, Mr. Ritter. 

Mr. RITTER. Mr. Speaker, 1 am trying to get a clari- 

fication of what we are talking about. I do not see any 

language here that talks about the definition as contained in 

the Abortion Control Act. It is a very simple amendment, 

which I oppose, but it says, "An abortion clinic is a hospital, 

clinic or other building or office used to perform abortions." 

It seems to me if a doctor is performing an abortion in his 

office, he has to pay a $1,000 fee. If a woman came in who 

was a victim of rape or incest and had an abortion performed, 

that building, that office, that clinic, or that hospital would 

have to pay the $1.000 fee. 

I do not see any other definition in here. I think it is a 

terrible amendment. I think we ought to vote "no" on the 

amendment. 


York, Mr. Dorr. 

Mr. DORR. I would like to yield to the gentleman, Mr. 

White. 


Philadelphia, Mr. White. 

Mr. WHITE. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose the amendment. It would 

seem to me, Mr. Speaker, that the issue that has clearly been 

framed here is not a matter of the state collecting fees froman 

institution, from an office, a hospital, an abortion clinic, as a 

means of controlling the regulatory process of that particular 

institution. What it is clearly designed to do is to impose an 

economic discrimination on people who are performing a 

service, a needed service. in the Commonwealth of Pem- 

sylvania. 

To the maker of the amendment, and to those who might 

support the concept within that amendment, you certaidly 

have had and will continue to have ample opportunity to


pursue your particular course of action through legitimate 

legislative means. But to simply say that imposing a $1,000 fee 

on yet a still-undefined institution, as the gentleman from 

Lehigh County stated, which could be someone's medical 

office, not just a hospital or clinic, but in fact could be a 

neighborhood doctor's office, is simply unconscionable. 

It is one thing to say that in law it is illegal to perform abortions. 

It is one thing to say in the Commonwealth that this 

General Assembly frowns upon abortions being performed 

anywhere in this state. It is something else to say, Mr. 

Speaker, that only those who can afford to pay the $1,000 fee 

should be in a position to perform that service. I would urge a 

negative vote on the amendment. 


York, Mr. Dorr. 

Mr. DORR. Mr. Speaker, I have some questions to ask Mr. 

Trello, but I just prefer to await the developments in the 

conferences that are taking place over there, if that is what is 

going on. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Dorr, has been recognized 

and requests permission to interrogate the gentleman, 

Mr. Trello. Does the gentleman consent to interrogation? 

Mr. TRELLO. Yes, Mr. Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Dorr, may proceed. 

Mr. DORR. Mr. Speaker, I agree with the interpretation of 

the amendment rendered by the gentleman, Mr. Ritter, I 

believe, but I would like to clarify with the sponsor of the 

amendment the provisions of the amendment a little further, 

and I would like to do so by posing a hypothetical question to 

Mr. Trello. 

If the hospital in my home community, Hanover General 

Hospital, performs abortions-I assume they do, but I do not 

know that for sure-and assuming that they have no license 

issued to them as an abortion clinic under the act to which you 

referred earlier, will they have to pay a $1,000 fee under your 

amendment? 

Mr. TRELLO. Well. if thev do not have a license under the 

Abortion Control Act, then in no way are they licensed to 

nerform shortions 

Mr. DORR. That may be true, but they may be performing 

them in any event. I do not know that for sure. I am only 

posing a hypothetical question because of your indication that 

vou believe onlv those licensed under the Control Act are 

The only purpose for the amendment and the $1,000 is to 

discourage abortion clinics from opening. I doubt very much 

that it will. I would like to make it $100,000, like Representative 

Mullen said, but I am sure that the courts would not go 

along with that, so $1,000 is an acceptable fee. But if they are 

not licensed at the present time to perform abortions and they 

are performing abortions, it is my opinion that they are doing 

it illegally, and the $1,000 would not pertain to them at all. 

Mr. DORR. Mr. Speaker, I do not remember what the fee 

was established in the Abortion Control Act for the license 

which is obtained under that act. Can you refresh our 

memories as to what that license fee is? 

Mr. TRELLO. The license fee for that? 

Mr. DORR. Yes. 

Mr. TRELLO. It is my understanding that there is no fee. 

Mr. DORR. No fee under the Abortion Control Act? 

Mr. TRELLO. No. It is my understanding it is, hut go 

ahead. 

Mr. DORR. Okay. Onemore question. 

What standards of health and safety does your amendment 

set up for the payment of this fee and the obtaining of the 

license thereunder? 

Mr. TRELLO. I think the standards are already set by the 

Federal Government. The amendment does not direct any 

remarks towards health rules'and regulations pertaining to 

abortions. That is already set up. The only thing my amendment 

is directed to is a fee, period. 

Mr. DORR. Okay. So your amendment does not attempt to 

establish any standards relating to the health or safety or 

anything of the public? 

Mr. TRELLO. The sole purpose of the amendment is to 

discourage abortion clinics from opening, period. 

Mr. DORR. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Speaker. 


Delaware, Mr. Freind. 

Mr. FREIND. Mr. Speaker, could we have the indulgence 

of the Chair for about 60 seconds. . olease? . 

AMENDMENT WITHDRAWN 


from Allegheny, Mr. Trello, rise? 

Mr. TRELLO. To speak on the amendment, Mr. Speaker. 


covered here and my concern that the language does not say proceed. 

that 1 Mr. TRELLO. Mr. Speaker. because of the 

Mr. TRELLO. I agree with what you are saying, and I can 

assure you that the amendment should have specified that. 

I want to make one thing clear, that in no way does this 

misunderstanding here and because of the language that is 

enacted in the amendment being I am 

going to withdraw the amendment and redraft it to anothw 

$1,000 fee qualify any establishment to perform abortions. 

This only pertains to establishments that are already licensed 

hill in the future and make the language more explicit. 


by the Abortion Control Act, that are performing abortions It is the understanding of the Chair that the ~rello amendnow. 

If they are not licensed by the Abortion Control Act, ment A2687is withdrawn. 

then it would be illegal to perform an abortion to begin with. On the question recurring, 

I mean, this $1,000 does not qualify them to perform abor- Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration as 

tions. I am only directing the amendment to establishments amended? 

that are already licensed to perform them that are not paying Mr. KANUCK offered the following amendment No. 

a fee. They are doing it free and making a ton of money on it. A2893:

1981 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL-HOUSE 1303


inserting 

5. 


and inserting 

Section 6. (a) Sections 1. 2, 3 and 5 of this act shall 

take effect in 60 days. 

(b) Section 4 of this act shall take immediately. 



(Members proceeded to vote.) 


from Allegheny, Mr. Murphy, rise? There is nothing in order 

but the taking of the vote at this time. 

Mr. MURPHY. I would like to interrogate Mr. McClatchy 

for a moment, please. 

VOTE STRICKEN 

The SPEAKER. The clerk will strike the vote. 



The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman, Mr. McClatchy, stand 

for interrogation? The gentleman, Mr. Murphy, may 

proceed. 

Mr. MURPHY. Mr. Speaker, in the amendment as I read 

it, I see that nowhere does it mention that the Commonwealth 

should take into account the value of mineral resources or 

natural gas or oil that might be on this property. Is there 

anywhere in the amendment that I might have missed that 

deals with that subject? 

Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, I think that any lands we 

talk about have to come before committees, come before us 

for analysis beyond what the administration might do, so 1 

have no fear that if we find there is a valuable piece of land 

with mineral rights in it, why, we can justify taking that piece 

of land out of anv land transfer we mieht have to do or want 

to do or be requested to do. 

Mr. MURPHY. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Cambria, Mr. Haluska. 

Mr. HALUSKA. Mr. Speaker, I would like to make a 

remark on this particular bill. It seems to me that the 

Governor is trying to sell the assets of the Commonwealth in 

order to try to balance the budget. I think that we as individ- 

uals never tried to sell our homes or our furniture to pay for 

our food bills, so I think we should go with caution. I feel if 

the Governor needs money in his budget, he should not sell 

our assets, but he should place the proper taxes necessary to 

meet the current expenditures. Thank you. 


Dauphin, Mr. Wambach. 

Mr. WAMBACH. Mr. Speaker, I am opposed to the 

McClatchy amendment. I would just like to say that within 

the House rules, I do not know how long rule 32 goes back in 

the history of the House, but it was the only rule in the House 

that put on an administrative department conditions that 

must be met before legislation on land transfers came before 

this body. It required five answers to five separate questions, 

and it was in the safeguards of giving land away that the 

House in its wisdom developed rule 32. Now, I do not know if 

rule 32 has been complied with over the years. I can say when 

I was the legislative liaison in General Services it was certainly 

complied with, but I would just like to say for the ladies and 

gentlemen of this House, it was put in as a safeguard to stop 

the giving away of land in this Commonwealth, and to take 

that in lieu of separate pieces of legislation resting on their 

own merit to come before this body and the body of the 

Senate to be voted on individually, we are just stabbing 

ourselves in the back. 

I would ask that all the members vote against this as a very 

faulty piece of legislation as well as a way to circumvent the 

legislative process where we all have a vote, not just the 

committee. 


Indiana, Mr. Wass. 

Mr. WASS. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the amend- 

ment. In my area we have 1,380 acres of farmland and build- 

ings that are falling and they have been neglected for many 

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"ears. It is time that we eet rid of these nrooerties and sell 1 Cochran Hutchinson. A. Richardson Wambach 

n 

them and bring some respect to the properties that we own out 

there in the state. 



Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, first of all, this bill is 

exactly the same bill that was passed by the Senate last night. 

There is no change whatsoever. 

Secondly, there is no way any piece of land will be trans- 

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Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Bittle 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Burd 

Burns 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cole 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Blaum 

Brown 

Caltagiranc 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Fleck Lewis 


Foster, Jr., A. Mclntyre 

Frazier McManagle 


Gallagher Mackowski 

Gallen Madigan 

Gamble Maiale 

Cannon Manderino 


Gladeck Marmion 

Grabowski Merry 

Greenwood Micozzie 

Grieco Miller 

Gruppo Moehlmann 

Hagany Mowery 

Harper Mrkonic 

Hasay Mullen 

Hayes Murphy 

Honaman Nahill 

Hutchinson, W. Noye 

lrvis O'Donnell 

ltkin Oliver 

Jackson Pendletan 

Johnson Perzel 

Kanuck Peterson 

Kennedv Petrarca 

Klingaman Phillips 

Kolter Piccola 

Lashinger Pievsky 

Laughlin Pitts 

Lehr Pott 

Levi Pucciarelli 

Levin Punt 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fryer 

Greenfield 

Gmitza 

Haluska 

Hceffel 

Hargos 

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LuCyk 

McCall 

Michlovic 

Miscevich 

Morris 

Petrone 

Pistella 

Rappapon 

Rasco 

Reber 

Rieger 

Rocks 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Stevens 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Vroon 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wright, J. L. 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stewan 

Sweet 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Waehob 

I 

Cohen Kowalyshyn Ritter Wargo 

Colafella Kukovich Rybak Wiggins 

Cordisco Lescovitz Seventy Wiams, H. 

DeMedia Letterman Showers Womiak 

Dawida Livengood Shupnik Wright, D. R. 

Evans Lloyd Spitz Zwikl 

NOT VOTING-2 

Pratt 

EXCUSED-4 

ferred or sold unless it is done by a vote of this General Deal George Heiser Olasz 

Assembly, either the Senate or the House. I think we have 

complete protection. In fact, when it comes on the reorganiza- 


tion plan, we would have the right to strip any one item, to 

amendments were agreed to' 

take it out. Mr. Speaker, I think we have an obligation where 

we have surplus land sitting there doing nothing to put it back 1 AMENDMENT A2566 RECONSIDERED 

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on the tax rolls, and 1 think this is at least an attempt to 


correct all of that land out there that is being maintained at 

Somerset, Mr. Lloyd, who moves that the vote by which the 

the taxpayers' expense. I ask for an affirmative vote on the 

Lloyd amendment A2566 to SB 425 was defeated on June 30. 

amendment. 

1981, be reconsidered, the reconsideration motion being 


seconded by the gentleman, Mr. DeWeese. 

Will the House agree to the amendment 



Will the House agree to the motion? 


YEAS-177 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Barski 

Boyes 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cothran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cardisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dininni 

Dombrowrki 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffs 

Evans 

Fee 

Foster. W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gamble 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gmitza 

oruppo 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hoeffcl 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Mcehlmann 

Moms 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

POtt 

Pratt 

PucciareUi 

Punt 

Rappawn 

Reber 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spiu 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stew an 

Stuban 

Swaim 

sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Tclek 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vroon 

Wachob 

Wargo 

Weston 

White 

wi- 

Williams. H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl


Durham Lucyk Rocks Speaker 

Emerson McCall Rybak 

NAYS-17 

Bowser Fleck Hayes Swneer 

Brand1 Gallen Johnson Stairs 

Cessar Cannon Pitts Wass 

Dietz Geist Rasco Wenger 

Fiseher 

NOT VOTING-3 

Gray Letterman Wambach 

EXCUSED-4 


~h~ question was determined in the affirmative, and the 

motion was agreed to. 



The clerk read the following amendments No. A2566: 

Amend Title, page 1, line 21, by inserting after "AGEN- 

CIES;" 

further providing for public relations 

and budgets; 

Amend Bill, page 31 by inserting between lines 12 and 13 


clause to read: 

Section 613. Submission of Budget to General Assembly.- 

As soon as possible after the organization of the General 

Assembly, but not later than the first full week in February of 

each year, except in the case where a Governor has been elected 

for his first term of office and then no later than the first full 

week in March, the Governor shall submit to the General 

Assembly copies of agency budget requests and a State budget 

and program and financial plan embracing: 

. . 

Amend Sec. 3. page 31, line 15, by striking out "3." and 

inserting 

4. 


inserting 

5. - ~ 


inserting 





Mr. LLOYD. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Just very briefly, so that everybody understands what this 

amendment does do and does not do. What it does do is 

require that each year when the budget is submitted, that for 

the executive branch departments and agencies, a separate line 

item he included for each department and agency spelling out 

what is proposed to be appropriated for public relations 

expenses for the succeeding fiscal year. That would apply to 

every Governor that we would have as long as this statute is 

on the books. 

What it does not do is to cut anybody. What it does not do 

is to say what the Appropriations Committee or what this 

House or the Senate will do with that information in the 

budget. What it requires is that data be presented to us so that 

we can take a look, because some agencies may be doing a 

very poor job of making the public aware of what their new 

regulations are and what their problems are, whereas other 

agencies may be spending the money in an inefficient way. 

They may be spending the money on high-priced operations 

when cheaper things might do the job. This is consistent with 

what President Reagan is doing, and all it does is provide us 

with information and postpone to another day what we decide 

to do with that information. I urge adoption of the amend- 

ment. 


Delaware, Mr. Alden. 

Mr. ALDEN. Mr. Speaker, will the chairman of the Appro- 

priations Committee stand for brief interrogation? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates that he will. The 

gentleman, Mr. Alden, may proceed. 

Mr. ALDEN. Mr. Speaker, are these items already Line- 

itemed before the Appropriations Committee so that every- 

body knows what is being spent? 

Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, when each department 

comes before the Appropriations Committee, all these ques- 

tions are asked. We have a document called the general appro- 

priation budget, but as each one of these departments comes 

before us, they have their own individual budgets that have a 

further explanation of all their expenditures, and we certainly 

do go through these things. This year we cut each department 

back to 97 percent of last year's budget. If we find in our 

wisdom that they are spending too much on press releases or 

what we are talking about here, we will certainly cut it back. I 

think the amendment is irrelevant myself. I think we do the 

job already, and we do it effectively. 

Mr. ALDEN. But all those items are available? The people 

know and have knowledge of all those items and the amounts 

of money being spent for them? 

Mr. McCLATCHY. Yes, they are. 

Mr. ALDEN. Okay. Thank you. 


Greene, Mr. DeWeese. 

Mr. DeWEESE. In response to Mr. Alden's question, 

although it was not directed to me, I serve on the Appropria- 

tions Committee, and many times, if we are attempting to


find out information about travel and meal and lodging and 

advertising, some of the answers we receive are as misty and 

murky as the Marabar Caves. We have not been given infor- 

mation on an ongoing basis, and I believe that what Mr. 

Lloyd is asking for is something that is already being put in 

motion, put in motion in Washington, D.C. Ronald Reagan, 

our Chief Executive-and I have had the pleasure of quoting 

or at least reminding people about his public service before 

from this same podium-that gentleman has seen fit to make 

certain that no waste, no excess abounds, especially in such a 

sensitive and volatile area as public relations. 

I remember one department came before Mr. McClatchy 

and Mr. DeWeese, et al, and I had the temerity to ask them 

about their new curtains. Well, they responded forthrightly 

that they did not have new curtains in their PR office, but lo 

and behold a few months later they had new curtains. Now, I 

am not saying that what we are experiencing across the board 

is fraudulent; all I am saying is that Mr. Lloyd, the gentleman 

from Somerset County, is trying to spell out where we are 

spending money in the public relations field. 

I do not think we are asking for too much. I do not think 

this amendment says too much. We want to know where the 

presentation, distribution, advertising, publications, things 

that heretofore can slip through the cracks. This is not going 

to cost anybody very much. It is going to give those people, 

those 60,000 people whom each of us represent, a little bit 

better idea where we are spending our money. If we can do 

more with less, let us do less with public relations. Let us pass 

the Lloyd amendment. Thank you. 


Delaware, Mr. Spitz. 

Mr. SPITZ. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman, Mr. 

DeWeese, stand for one question of interrogation? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates be will. The 

gentleman, Mr. Spitz, may proceed. 

Mr. SPITZ. Mr. Speaker, if I missed it, would you refresh 

my recollection? How old did you say Hannibal was when he 

went over the Alps? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. DeWeese. 

Mr. DeWEESE. My recollection is that I was talking about 

Alexander the Great and some of his Macedonian warriors 

who dashed north to the brown hills of northern Greece. 

Philip I1 was his father and he was busy in the south with 

Sparta, Athens, and other city-states that would become 

rebellious, but I was trying to indicate that some young men, 

16, 17, late adolescence in that day and age, were very active 

in leadership positions, and I thought that a leadership posi- 

tion like that could be assumed by some of our contemporary 

young people. 



Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, I am glad that, number 

one, Mr. DeWeese is now in the Reagan camp for a liberal. I 

never thought he would make it. 

Secondly, Mr. Speaker, I kind of resent some of the things 

Mr. DeWeese said. When we run the Appropriations 

Committee hearings, every member, minority, majority, is 

allowed to ask questions as long as they want. In fact, Mr. 

DeWeese took up an awful lot of our time. They are also enti- 

tled to get the information. If it is not available, we request it 

from every department and we get it. If we do not get it 

promptly, we will ask it again. I think this is just a waste of 

time, Mr. Speaker. We do the job now; we can do it as effec- 

tively as we possibly want, as the minority and majority 

members of the Appropriations Committee want it to be 

done. I do not think this is needed at all. I want to ask for a 

negative vote on the amendment. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the minority whip. 

Mr. MANDERINO. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the 

Lloyd amendment. Not long ago I read in the Philadelphia 

Inquirer a story written by Scott MacLeod that indicated that 

state government was spending nearly $25 million in pure 

public relations. Now, that is a figure that astounds me as well 

as I am sure it probably astounds many of you. I do not know 

whether Mr. MacLeod's figures and additions were correct or 

not, but I know that we are being barraged by public relations 

efforts of every department and every agency. I believe in my 

PennDOT district I get more press releases than they fd 

potholes. I think that there is a time and a place for every- 

thing, and there is a time and a place for the Lloyd amend- 

ment. We are not asking anyone to do anything differently 

than they are doing it. Perhaps if they have to report specifi- 

cally and in writing what they are doing so far as public rela- 

tions and what expenditures are being made, they just might 

be a little more prone to put their money in services to the 

people of Pennsylvania rather than in public relations efforts 

with the people of Pennsylvania. 

Mr. Speaker, I think this amendment deserves the support 

of every member of the House. It is an amendment to the 

Administrative Code that does nothing to tamper with or to 

spoil the effect of the fee bill and the land sale bill, which is 

now incorporated into this bill. I intend to support the bill in 

its present form; I would like to support it with the Lloyd 

amendment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Somerset, Mr. Lloyd, for the second time on the question. 

Mr. LLOYD. Mr. Speaker, 1 just want to emphasize the 

fact that the budget submissions, while they are the fust order 

of interest to the Appropriations Committee, are also of 

interest to the other members of the House as well as to the 

members of the Senate, and at the present time that informa- 

tion is not readily available to all members. This is not an 

attempt to single out any one agency; it is an attempt to have 

an accounting and to have an accounting in a responsible way, 

by having the information which the Appropriations 

Committee says that it uses anyway, to have that made a 

matter of public record so that we can get a full accounting 

and so that every member, if he wants to propose amend- 

ments to increase the spending in one department and 

decrease it in another, will have the opportunity and the infor- 

mation with which to do that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Mifflin, Mr. DeVerter.


Mr. DeVERTER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Very briefly, I, too, as Mr. McClatchy has pointed out, 

tend to resent the gentleman, Mr. DeWeese's remarks relative 

to the Appropriations hearings. He did consume a consider- 

able amount of time, and I appreciate that, as Mr. DeWeese 

let us know on any number of occasions he was new and he 

was wanting to learn, and that is fully understandable, and I 

respect and understand that. 

On the other hand, with respect to Mr. Manderino's 

comments relative to us being inundated with materials press- 

wise from the various departments and agencies of this 

Commonwealth, we find one of the biggest complaints 

around here is, we do not know what is going on. And when 

they try to inform us, you know, it is a different story. Now, I 

do not think we can have it both ways. If we want to be 

informed legislators. then we are going to accept those things 

that are provided to us. If we disagree with them, then we 

should so notify those departments and agencies. But I do not 

think by and large that singling out one particular segment of 

a department's budget bodes well for that department and the 

information that it may or may not provide presently to the 

legislators in this General Assembly. Thank you, Mr. 

Speaker. 


Chester, Mr. Morris. 

Mr. MORRIS. Mr. Speaker, I just have a couple of short 

remarks to make about this discussion. 

After an absence of a little while, I came back here, and it 

had not changed very much, but now I find I have seen the 

film before, at least part of it. It seems to me we used to have 

great arguments, and I personally was in support of those who 

argued on this side of the fence; that is to say, Mr. Lloyd. We 

used to have great arguments about PR by the administrative 

departments as well as administrative lobbying, and somehow 

the parts in this movie seem to have been reversed; the roles 

are reversed. 1 find that most interesting. I support this 

amendment. 


Philadelphia, Mr. Cohen. 

Mr. COHEN. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker, one of the major problems in government and 

society in general today is the spread of myths. Myths can be 

fostered by the media; myths can be fostered by government; 

and the problem with public relations spending is that it tends 

to foster myths and that instead of necessarily demonstrating 

what the truth is, it can often obscure the truth. For instance, 

businessmen throughout the Commonwealth received last 

year rolls of red tape. About $38,000, we found out at the 

Appropriations Committee hearings, was spent on red tape. 

Now, is red tape an informative statement? Does red tape give 

any needed information as to what government funds are 

being used for? It does not. The red tape was a symbol that 

was sent to each businessman, ostensibly to demonstrate that 

the Thornburgh administration was concerned about cutting 

red tape, and this is a very effective way of communication, it 

was argued, and indeed it did communicate. Businessmen 

throughout the state complained about the waste of money 

involved in sending out the red tape, and businessmen 

throughout the state wrote and said this is not a good way of 

communicating. 

We have to bevery careful about money which can be spent 

in this fashion, which is noninformative, and breaking out the 

public relations budget so that we can look carefully at what it 

entails can enable us to see how much money is being spent 

for information, which 1 agree is a very, very justifiable 

course of government expenditure, and how much money is 

being spent to perpetuate myths in one way or the other. 

In addition, this amendment is important because of the 

role of media involved in spreading information, Very large 

numbers of newspaper personnel, very large numbers of TV 

personnel wind up getting jobs from the administrations in 

Democratic years and Republican years on all levels of 

government. The role of media is to cover the news objec- 

tively. We have positions, we have large numbers of positions 

that far exceed the salaries the media personnel get, in state 

government or National Government or municipal govern- 

ment, so the media have an incentive to work hard in order to 

get these jobs. That also tends to distort truth. It distorts the 

information process, and it lends to the further creation of 

myths. I therefore support the Lloyd amendment. 


Lancaster, Mr. Miller. 

Mr. MILLER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Would the maker of the amendment consent to brief inter- 

rogation, Mr. Speaker? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Lloyd, indicates he 

will. The gentleman, Mr. Miller, may proceed. 

Mr. MILLER. To the gentleman, Mr. Lloyd, Mr. Speaker, 

I would ask a direct question. I fail to see anywhere in the 

gentleman's amendment where he addresses those same activi- 

ties by ourselves, by the legislature, either branch of the 

House or Senate. Am 1 correct, sir? 

Mr. LLOYD. The gentleman is correct, and the reason for 

that, Mr. Speaker, is that it is my understanding that the 

Governor does not itemize the expenditures by the legislative 

branch, that that is a matter within the jurisdiction of the 

legislature, and that it would be considered a violation of the 

principle of separation of power for the Governor to do that. 

Mr. MILLER. I thank the gentleman for his answer, but 1 

must admit to a bit of confusion. 

This is not a new issue to the General Assembly. Those of 

us who have been privileged to spend any time here at all 

know that during administrations of the opposite party, this 

side of the aisle has offered similar amendments. I have heard 

arguments today by the distinguished minority whip about the 

amount of money that is spent and how this practice needs to 

be at least reviewed by the General Assembly. I have heard 

Mr. Lloyd himself, who acts on both sides of the issue by 

saying we are not certain but there may he an opportunity to 

correct or save some taxpayer's dollar. And lastly, I have 

heard the argument of myth from the gentleman from 

Philadelphia, the myth that is perpetrated on us via the news 

release.


Mr. Speaker, I challenge any member to dispute this next 

statement in rebutting this amendment: I would doubt that 

there is an agency in this Commonwealth that spends a larger 

percentage of its administrative dollar in the activity and 

endeavor of public relations, whether it be myth or substan- 

tive, than this General Assembly. Come before this General 

Assembly, Mr. Speaker, with an amendment that truly meets 

the merits you choose to present to us, that we need to watch 

this dollar in behalf of the Commonwealth citizenry, for all of 

us, all of us collectively and specifically in this House, and, 

sir, I will support it. But let us not go on a partisan witch-hunt 

under the suggestion, the mere suggestion, that there is a 

problem. If indeed there is a problem, let us solve it for all of 

US. 

I would encourage a negative vote on the amendment and 

reconsider one with Mr. Lloyd as sincere in presenting a 

proposal that truly gets toward public relations costs, those 

that we foster upon the Commonwealth, particularly those 

that are in Mr. Cohen's viewpoint the myths. I thank you, 

Mr. Speaker. 




VOTE STRICKEN 



Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, could you strike the 

vote, please? 

The SPEAKER. Is it the understanding of the Chair the 

gentleman asks to debate on this hill? 

Mr. McCLATCHY. That is correct. 

The SPEAKER. The clerk will strike the vote. 





Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, here we are again in the 

House on a silly partisan issue that need not be that way. 1 do 

not think it is necessary. I do not think that I want some of 

our members who loyally are trying to vote "no" and support 

us on something that probably has some merit. I do not think 

it is necessary, and, therefore, to avoid any partisanship, I 

would ask for an affirmative vote. 




Alden Fischer 

Barber Fleck 

Belardi Foster, Jr., 

Eelfanti Frazier 

Beloff Freind 

Berson Fryer 

Bittle Gallagher 

Blaum Gamble 

Borski Gannan 

Boyes Geist 

Lucyk R ybak 

MeCall Salvatore 

A. McClatfhy Serafini 

Mclntyre Seveuty 

McMonagle Showers 

McVerry Shupnik 

Mackowski Sieminski 

Maialc Sirianni 

Manderino Smith, E. H 

Manmiller Snyder 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Clark 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafclla 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Caslett 

Cowcll 

Cunningham 

DeMedia 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dininni 

Dombrawski 

Donatucci 

Darr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Bowser 

Brandt 

Civera 

Clymer 

Carnell 

DeVener 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Haeffel 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Larhinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livenmod 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozrie 

Miscevich 

Morris 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perrel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappaport 

Reber 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

~loyd Rocks 

NAYS-32 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighncr 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wcston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Williams. I. D 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, 1. L. 

Zwikl 

Dietr Miller Smith, L. E. 

Foster, W. W. Mwhlmann Spencer 

Gallen Mowery Vroon 

Grieco Noye Wass 

Honaman Phillips Wenpr 

Jackson Rasm 

Klingaman Saurman Ryan, 

Levi Smith, B. Speaker 

Madigan 

NOT VOTING-2 

Gray Letterman 

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amended? 

Bill as amended was agreed - to. 




The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Berks, Mr. Fryer. 

Mr. FRYER. Mr. Speaker, I wish to speak in opposition to 

the passage of SB 425. 

Mr. Speaker, I counted approximately 350 changes in the 

various fees. I have difficulty in determining what is justified 

and what is a serious error in judgment. It requires time, Mr. 

Speaker, to contact the various people whom you represent in 

your district so that you can determine whether or not it is 

being administered fairly.


It is interesting that this is a fee bill. That sounds to me like 

a lot of bureaucratic doubletalk, because when someone has 

to pay a fee in order to pursue his livelihood, then that, Mr. 

Speaker, is a tax, and a tax by any other name will taste just as 

sour to the already overburdened people of Pennsylvania. We 

are being asked to extract over $7 million from the people we 

represent. I wish to share a few of the things that 1 found 

interesting. 

One, we had a water well driller's license increased from $3 

to $60.1 just cannot understand the rationale behind that. We 

have the case of a malt beverage distributor's license whose 

fee is $400 which is going to $425. And yet on line 12, a much 

more expensive fee for malt beverage importing distributors 

also goes up just $25 to $925, a much smaller percentage 

increase. 

Now, Mr. Speaker, we have by amendment process inserted 

an advantage, it seems to me, to the airlines. Now, what have 

we done for others? For instance, we also have an amendment 

that the fee for new establishments that are owner-operated 

with a seating capacity of less than 50 shall be $30; however, 

all other new establishments are $100. Presently that fee is $1. 

That is an increase from $1 to $100 for, in many cases, a Mom 

and Pop operation. We have not changed the renewal which 

consists of a figure of $30, where presently the fee is $1. We 

have a duplicate license for each additional business location 

of $5. Mr. Speaker, it seems to me that this would cover, in 

many cases, our fast-food chains, such as Gino's, 

McDonald's, Pizza Hut, and the like. Now, Mr. Speaker, 

they would be paying $5 and we would be charging $30 or 

$100 for a new establishment. I am reminded of some of the 

slogans used by the fast-food chains: "You deserve a break 

today." Well, they are certainly getting it here. Or "Have it 

your way," another chain proudly boasts. Well, apparently 

they are having it their way. 

There is no question in my mind that increases are 

warranted, but to submit so many at one time and at such a 

hurried pace is not fair to the people whom we represent. And 

when you look over that bill-and I am sure later on you will 

find out about it as its effect is felt upon the people we all 

represent-I would urge you to think a little more about this, 

because somehow or other this process makes a mockery of 

the legislative process. I urge you to reject this bill, Mr. 

Speaker. Thank you. 



Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, I think we have tried 

with this fee bill to be open and fair. We presented it to the 

House. It has been on the calendar. We circulated the 

increased cost of the fees per week. I think both sides have 

had them. I certainly have told my caucus that we would 

accept amendments if there were any fees they thought were 

excessive. We have accepted amendments. I am aware of most 

of the fees in the bill, why they are increased, and basically it 

is to cover costs. It is to cover the costs; in fact, we do not 

cover all of the costs. If we thought the fee increase was exces- 

sive in the fact that we could not go all the way up to the pure 

cost, we did not. 

Again, Mr. Speaker, I think it is a fair approach to the fee 

increase. If there is any disagreement in it, there is no reason 

why this House cannot at another time, another day, come 

back with another piece of legislation and decrease or change 

any fee that we think is excessive. Mr. Speaker, I ask for an 

affirmative vote on the hill. 



Mr. FRYER. Mr. Speaker, many times have I heard in this 

House, we can do it later. The point is we are doing it 

precisely now at this moment, and I say there are inequities 

that exist. How you can justify a $100 license for an eating 

establishment when the present fee is $1 and then charge $30 

for a renewal license, and I need not tell you how many there 

are of those establishments throughout each individual 

district. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


from Centre, Mr. Letterman, rise? 

Mr. LETTERMAN. Mr. Speaker, would you give me one 

minute, please? Just one minute. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman. Mr. 

Letterman. 

Mr. LETTERMAN. Mr. Speaker, is it possible to vote on 

everything but the one on the eating places, separate it? 

The SPEAKER. The bill is on final passage. It is impossible 

to do as the gentleman is asking to do. 

Mr. LETTERMAN. Mr. Speaker, the reason I am asking 

this is in our country today there are so many of these small 

eating places just supporting one person or maybe two 

persons or a family, and this is more out of their pocket that I 

do not think a lot of them can afford, and I do not see why we 

could not separate it. I think it could be separated, and I think 

it is extremely too much. 


Mifflin, Mr. DeVerter. 

Mr. DeVERTER. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman stand 

for interrogation? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates he will. The 

gentleman, Mr. DeVerter, may proceed. 

Mr. DeVERTER. Mr. Speaker, is the gentleman, Mr. 

Letterman, aware that that section was amended with Mr. 

Wilson's amendment on the restaurant licenses? 

Mr. LETTERMAN. What did it do? 

Mr. DeVERTER. It in fact placed those eating establish- 

ments with a seating capacity of 50 or less at a $30 license fee. 

which I feel is reasonable. Those at 51 and above would be 

required the $100 license. And those, you will find, mainly 

deal with the established hotels, motels, places like that. I 

believe, as far as seating capacity. 

I was concerned about that, quite frankly, and that was my 

amendment which we incorporated with Mr. Wilson's so that 

we would not have a number of amendments to the bill. 

Mr. LETTERMAN. Okay. Thank you very much. 

On thequestion recurring, 

Shall the bill pass finally? 

The SPEAKER. Agreeable to the provisions of the Consti- 

tution, the yeas and nays will now be taken.


and regulations as the board may enforce, to the Liquor Control 

Board, to individuals and to hotel, restaurant, club and public 

service liquor licensees. 

Amend Sec. 4, page 10, line 9, by striking out "4. This" and 

inserting 

5. (a) Sections 1, 2 and 3 of this 


(b) Section 4 of this act shall take effect immedi- 

ately. 




Erie, Mr. Bowser. 

Mr. BOWSER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

What this amendment will do to SB 277 is the exact same 

thing as my HB 357. The reason I would like to get it amended 

into this bill is that it could possibly be passed before the 

summer break. The wineries have been waiting for this a long 

time and would appreciate this 3 or 4 months' advance. 

What this will do is give our limited wineries in the State of 

Pennsylvania three extended premises where they do not have 

to make wine. Right now they can have extended premises, 

but they have to manufacture wine on those premises, and in 

order to do that they have to go into an industrial zone, which 

is not always conducive to selling wines. So what this bill 

would do is give them three each per winery where they would 

not have to manufacture wine, so they could go into a plaza or 

to a better retail location. I would appreciate very much your 

support on this. 


Berks, Mr. Caltagirone. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Mr. Speaker, will the maker of the 

amendment stand for brief interrogation? 


gentleman may proceed. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Mr. Speaker, how many retail 

outlets do the winemakers in this state presently have? 

Mr. BOWSER. They can go up to six right now. I know of 

no winery that has more than three. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Mr. Speaker, how many wineries 

do we have in this state? 

Mr. BOWSER. Twenty-three, to my knowledge. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. What would the total amount of 

retail outlets total if in fact the maximum number of retail 

outlets were to occur? 

Mr. BOWSER. Through this amendment, you are 

speaking? 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Yes. 

Mr. BOWSER. Well, it would be three per winery, so it 

would be 3 times 23 plus what they have now. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. So that would be a total of approxi- 

mately 125, Mr. Speaker? 

Mr. BOWSER. It could he, if they would all choose to do 

this. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Do you think that is kind of exces- 

sive? 

Mr. BOWSER. Expensive? 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Excessive, as far as the number of 

outlets. 

Mr. BOWSER. Oh, excessive. Well, I do not believe so, 

because what we are doing, Mr. Speaker, by these extended 

premises, we are selling only Pennsylvania-made wines, which 

not only helps the wineries: it helps our agricultural commu- 

nity in the state. For every gallon of wine that is made, we 

grow so many grapes. Some farmer grows that. We are 

helping our own agriculture in the state. No; I do not think it 

is excessive. These wineries are limited to 100,000 gallons per 

year. The largest winery is up in my district, Penn Shore, 

which was just a little bit over 40,000 gallons last year, and 

compared to the big wineries, no, I do not believe it is exces- 

sive at all. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Mr. Speaker, is it not a fact that the 

Liquor Control Board does try in its own way to promote the 

Pennsylvania wines in their stores, which total 725? 

Mr. BOWSER. Would you repeat that, please? 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. The Pennsylvania Liquor Control 

Board, do they not in fact promote the Pennsylvania wines on 

displays and adequately stock and try to promote them when- 

ever and wherever they can? 

Mr. BOWSER. Well, this has been a big argument. There 

are Pennsylvania wines in some of the stores. I think there are 

only four of the wineries that have products in the stores. One 

of their big problems is the amount of orders that the Liquor 

Control Board will order from them. We have an awful 

problem with shipping. They will ask for a case of wine, and 

in some cases the shipping costs are as much as the cost of the 

wine. And because of the fact that it has not gone over that 

well in the stores, I think you are right, but it has been very 

limited, the pushing of Pennsylvania wines, that they feel that 

they have to do their marketing themselves. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Mr. Speaker, if your premise holds 

true about promoting Pennsylvania wine, could we not then 

also promote Pennsylvania whiskey and allow the whiskey 

manufacturer in this state to then promote Pennsylvania 

whiskey in private stores or in your wine outlets? 

Mr. BOWSER. I would have no problem with that, if we 

made the product in Pennsylvania. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Mr. Speaker, I have finished my 

interrogation. I would like to make a comment. 


proceed. 

Mr. CALTAGIRONE. Mr. Speaker, I think this is a very 

critical issue. 1 think you had better think twice when you vote 

on this, because this is setting up a very dangerous precedent 

for the dissolution of the system of liquor control as we pres- 

ently know it in this state. 

The premise that I hold is, if they do allow the expansion of 

additional retail outlets, they may be in one area of the state 

servicing another area of the state. I am not trying to hold 

down the growth and development of a Pennsylvania 

industry. What I am saying is we presently have an outlet, and 

it is a fact that we do try to promote those types of wines in 

our liquor stores in the state.


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If we allow this amendment to be approved, we are going to 

lose control, and it is a little bit of control in addition to the 

liquor that we manufacture. There is no logical reason or 

Bawser Gladeck Micouie Spifz 

goyes Grabowski Miller Steighner 

Brandt Greenwood Miscevich Stevens 

~,,,d Crieco Moehlmann Stewart 

~ ~ ... ~~~~ 

argument that could then be used that we could not also sell 

liquor in those same stores. 1 oppose the amendment. Thank 

you. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recoenizes - the - eentleman from 

Columbia, Mr. Stuban. 

Mr. STUBAN. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I rise in support of this amendment. I personally think if 

you walk through one of our liquor stores and the self-service 

counters and you look out there and see the wines that are on 

those shelves, you will find that there are very few Pennsylvania 

wines there. I do not think the House should sit here 

and dicker and carry on about letting a Pennsylvania industry 

promote itself. I know some of you fellows who are from steel 

cities are worried that steel is now running in first place, but 

the agricultural industry is going to be number one in the 

state, and we could help by putting Pennsylvania wines all 

over the State of Pennsylvania. 1 ask you to support this 

amendment. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recoanizes - the gentleman from 

Adams, Mr. Cole. 

Mr. COLE. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I rise to support the amendment. The wine industry in 

Burns 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Cochran 

Cahen 

Calafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

DeMedia 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Danatucci 

Evans 

Gruitna 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Harper 

Hasav 

~ayei 

HoefFel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukavich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livennood 

Lucyk 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Mumh Y 

~ahh 

Naye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

Pott 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapart 

Reber 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z 

~aylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wachob 

Wambach 

wargo 

Wass 

Wengcr 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Womiak 

Wright, D. R 

W"ght. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Rvan. 

Speaker 

Pennsylvania is a rather small industry. They have been 

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struggling for years, many of the wineries, to survive. Many 

of them are family operations, and I think we should do 

everything possible to help them in their endeavors to survive 

Brom 

Caltagirone 

Clymer 

DufFy 

Fischer 

Haluska 

Johnson 

Lloyd 

Richardson 

Smith, L. E. 

Stairs 

Sweet 

and help the economy of Pennsylvania. So I urge every 

NOT VOTING-7 

member in the House to support the amendment. 


Alleehenv. - .. Mr. Petrone. 

Cunningham 

Gray 

Greenfield McClatchy Williams. J. D. 

Lnterman Spencer 

EXCIJSED-4 

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Mr. PETRONE. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I rise in support of this amendment, Mr. Speaker, and urge 

all of my colleagues to vote for this amendment. 

The wine industry in the State of Pennsylvania is a fledgling 




industry that needs our help. This amendment will support 

that cause. For too many years we have been barred from 

allowing the growth of this industry by strong competition 

from the States of California and New York. Today we have 

an opportunity to provide'a chance for this industry to grow. I 

think we all should do it, and I urge you to support this 




amended? 

Mr. WACHOB offered the following amendments No. 

. A29R1: .-. - . 

Amend Title, page 1, line 16, by inserting after "laws,"" 

further providing for the issuance of hotel, 




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restaurant and club licenses; 

AmendBill, page I, by inserting between lines 21 and 22 

Section I. Section 404. act of Avril 12, 1951 (P.L.90, 

No.21), known as the "~iquor ~ode,"'amended September 2, 

1971 (P.L.429, No.103), is amended to read: 

Section 404. Issuance of Hotel, Restaurant and Club Liquor 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Fee 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 

Foster. Jr.. A. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Cannon 

Geist 

McCall 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H 

Snyder 

Licenses.-Upon receipt of the application, the proper fees and 

bond, and upon being satisfied of the truth of the statements in 

the application that the applicant is the only person in any 

manner pecuniarily interested in the business so asked to be 

licensed and that no other person will be in any manner pecuniarily 

interested therein during the continuance of the License, 

except as hereinafter permitted, and that the applicant is a person 

of good repute, that the premises applied for meet all the requirements 

of this act and the regulatioris of the board, that the applicant 

seeks a license for a hotel, restaurant or club, as defmed in 

~


I this act, and that the issuance of such license is not prohibited by where a person had been operating a small service station that 

any of the provisions of this act, the hoard shall, in the case of a was connected to a retail - erocerv distributor and also a small 

hotel or restaurant, grant and issue to the applicant a liquor snack bar, and he had purchased a license within the quota 

license, and in the case of a club may, in its discretion, issue or 

refuse a license: Provided, however, That in the case of any new 

and later found out that that license could not be transferred 

license or the transfer of any license to a new location the hoard to that location, because you cannot bevermay, 

in its discretion, grant or refuse such new license or transfer just beer-at a facility or at a 

if such place proposed to be licensed is within three hundred feet - gas. This amendment would lift 

of any church, hospital, charitable institution, school, or public 

that restriction and would allow that local operator in Clearplayground, 

or if such new license or transfer is applied for a 

place which is within two hundred feet of any other premises 

field County to go on with the business that he had already 

which is licensed by the board[, or if such new license or transfer purchased, and I urge support of the amendment. 

is aoolied for a olace where the orincioal business is the sale of The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes - the gentleman from 

liquid fuels and bill: And providid furiher, That the board shall I York. Mr. Lehr. 

refuse any application for a new license or the transfer of any 

Mr; LEHR, Speaker, I oppose this amendment. The 

license to a new location if, in the board's opinion, such new 

license or transfer would be detrimental to the welfare, health, 

Way it looks to me, we are 'lying " have liquor served at gas 

neace and morals of the inhabitants of the .~~- neiehhorhood -~~...~~~ within a stations or truckstops. I do not think this is right. We want to 

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~~~~~~ 

radius of five hundred feet of the place proposed to be licensed: I make it harder for these people to get liquor, not easier. We 

And provided further, That the board shall not issue new licenses I are talking about drivers - the guy out on the golf course to 

in any license district more than twice each license year, effective drive a ball, not to drive heavy trucks, I oppoie this amend- 

from specific dates fixed by the board, and new licenses shall not 

be granted, except for hotels as defined in this act, unless the 

application therefor shall have been filed at least thirty days 

before the effective date of the license: And provided further, 

That nothing herein contained shall prohibit the hoard from 

issuing a new license for the balance of any unexpired term in any 

license district to any applicant in such district, who shall have 

become eligible to hold such license as the result of legislative 

enactmem~when such enactment shall have taken plac; during 

the license term of that district for which application is made or 

within the thirty days immediately preceding such term, nor shall 

anything herein contained prohibit the board from issuing at any 

time a new license for an airport restaurant, or municipal golf 

course, as defined in section 461 of this act, for the balance of the 

unexpired license term in any license district: And provided 

further, That the hoard shall have the discretion to refuse a 

license to any person or to any corporation, partnership or association 

if such person, or any officer or director of such corporation, 

or any member or partner of such partnership or association 

shall have been convicted or found guilty of a felony within a 

period of five years immediately preceding the date of application 

for the said license. 

Amend Sec. I, page I, line 22, by striking out "1." and 

inserting 

2. 

Amend Sec. 1, page 1, lines 22 and 23, by striking out ", act 

of April 12, 1951 (P.L.90, No. 21), known as the "Liquor 

Code," " and inserting 

of the act, 


inserting 

3. 


inserting 

4. 


inserting 

5. 




Elk, Mr. Wachob. 

Mr. WACHOB. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker, amendment No. A2981 seeks to address a 

local problem that 1 have in Elk and Clearfield Counties, 

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Belfanti DeWeese Maiale Tigue 

Berson Emerson Pdrone Van Home 

Blaum Grabowski Richardson Wachob 

Boyes Horgos Stewart Wargo 

Cawley Kukovich Sweet Wozniak 

DeMedio Livengood 

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Alden Fischer Lucyk Ritter 

Anderson Fleck McCall Rocks 

Armstrong Foster, W. W. McClatchy Rybak 

Arfy Foster, Ir., A. Mclntyre Salvatore 

Barber Frazier McMonagle Saumw 

Belardi Freind McVcrry Scrafini 

Beloff Fryer Mackowski Seventy 

Bittle Gallagher Madigan Showers 

Borski Gallen Manderina Shupnik 

Bowser Gamble Manmiller Sicminski 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisca 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeVener 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Gannon 

Cei~t 

Gladeck 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Cruitra 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harp 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Hutchinson, 

Irvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micouie 

Miller 

MDehlmmn 

Morris 

Mow cry 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noyc 

O'Donnell 

W. Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Pelrarca 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spenar 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stwens 

Swaim 

Swifi 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. 2. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Vrwn 

Wambach 

Wass 

Wnger 

Weston 

White 

Wig& 

Williams. H. 

Wbon 

Wogan 

Wright, D. R,


Donatucci Lescovitz Punt Wright. 1. L 

Darr Levi Rappapon Zwikl 

Duffy Levin Rasco 

Durham Lewis Reber Ryan, 

Evans Lloyd Rieger Speaker 

Fee 

NOT VOTING-8 

Gray Hutchinson, A. Miscevich Trello 

Greenfield Letterman Stuban Williams. I. D. 

EXCUSED-4 






amended? 

Mr. DAWIDA offered the following amendments No. 

A29R7r 


Section I. Section 102, act of April 12, 1951 (P.L.90, 

No.21). known as the "Liauor Code." is amended bv addin~ - a 

definition to read: 

Section 102. Definitions.-The followine. words or ~hrases. 

unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, shall have the 

meanings ascribed to them in this section: 

* *. 

"Goll course" shall mean a course hav~ng a mlnlmum of nlnc 

holes and a total length of at least tuent)-fne hundred )ards. 

. . . 

Amend Sec. I, page I, line 22, by striking out "I." and 

inserting 

2. 

Amend Sec. I, page 1, lines 22 and 23, by striking out ", act 

of April 12, I951 (P.L.90, No.21), known as the "Liquor 

Code,"" and inserting 

~ ~ 

of the act, 


inserting 

done is say that "golf course" shall mean a course having a 

minimum of nine holes and a total length of at least 2,500 

yards to assure that it is some kind of bona fide golf course, 

and I would appreciate your support. 


Beaver, Mr. Laughlin. 

Mr. LAUGHLIN. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman says nine 

holes and 2,500 yards. Mr. Speaker, that could be up and 

down, up and down, up and down. It does not really explain 

anything, and it just gives the opportunity for these golf 

courses to have something they really should not have. And 

anybody who has ever been out on a golf course does not want 

anybody driving a golf club through their ears or anything, so 

I do not think we should be passing this legislation. 


Montgomery, Mr. Lashinger. 

Mr. LASHINGER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Sneaker. . I aaree - with the thmst of the Dawida amendment, 

but we have had the opportunity to discuss it. The 

problem that comes in taking away the discretion from the 

Liquor Control Board is that some people are going to still be 

included that are small golf courses for which this legislation 

was never intended. On the same hand, some golf courses are 

going to be excluded because of the problem that they might 

be a 9-hole golf course and you play the 9 holes twice to equal 

18 holes and it still might not reach his 2,500-yard level. 

I think it is something that was done in haste to try to 

tighten up the legislation. I think it is a good idea to tighten it 

up so that we do not include the chip-and-putt type courses, 

so that they are not eligible for this new liquor license. But 

because of the time restraints and the effort to move this biU. I 

do not think a good job was done in exploring all the types of 

golf courses that would qualify or would not qualify. I think it 

is a discretionary matter that lies with the board, and let them 

take the time to examine what golf courses should be qualifvine. 

2 A. ~,~~~- 

Amend Sec. 3, page 6, line 24, by striking out "3." and I do know, though, that the intention was to speak specifi- 

inserting cally to 18-hole golf courses, full-length golf courses or those 

4. 


inserting 

5. 




Allegheny, Mr. Dawida. 

Mr. DAWIDA. Mr. Speaker, if I may clear UP the confu- 

sion, there were two amendments circulated. I have with- 

drawn amendment 2958 and will be offering amendment 

2987. I was prevailed upon by my Republican colleagues, who 

know more about golf than we Democrats do, to amend my 

amendment. 

What we are trying to do is very simple. I want to make sure 

that these special licenses go to bona fide golf courses and not 

to somebody with a putt-putt course or a driving range or an 

electronic golfing range or any number of other things that 

would have been able to slip in under this bill. I think it was a 

loophole that we did not realize was there, so what I have 

golf courses that could equate to 18 holes but were still consid- 

ered more than just a normal par 3 golf course. I would hope 

that the Liquor Control Board would look at the legislative 

intent, the remarks that are being made on the floor today, in 

developing their standards for issuing this new license. But 1 

do not think the 2,500-yard standard is a good standard, and 1 

would therefore urge the members to reject the id^ 

amendment. 

~ h SPEAKER. , The Chair recognizes, for the second time 

on thesubject, thegentleman, Dawida, 

DAWIDA, Not to the point, but those of you 

who buy M ~. Laughlin9s argument should still vote for my 

amendment in case this hill passes, because it will rffult in 

fewer licenses being issued if this bill passes. 

And secondly, to address Lashingerrs point, all I am 

trying to do is establish minimum 1 do not trust 

bureaucrats to set up their own standards, so I want them to 

know that we want at least what we are saying here, if not 

more, and so I would urge that you support [his amendment,

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Armstrong 

Barber 

Belfanti 


Bcrson 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Brown 

Burd 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dombrowski 

Donatueci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Emerson 

Anderson 

Alfy 

Belardi 

Bittle 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Burns 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dininni 

Durham 

Fischer 

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Evans McMonagle 

Fee McVerry 

Fleck Maiale 

Frazier Manderino 

Gallagher Marmion 

Gamble Michlovic 

Grabowski Miscevich 

Greenfield Moehlmann 

Greenwood Morris 

Gruitza Mrkonic 

Gruppo Mullen 


Harper O'Donnell 

Haeffel Oliver 


Hutchinson. A. Petrarca 

IN~S Petrone 

Ilkin Phillips 

Klingaman Pievsky 

Kalter Pistella 



Lescovitz Pucciarelli 

Letterman RappapoR 

Levin Rasco 

Livengood Reber 

Lloyd Richardson 

Lucyk Rieger 

McCall Racks 

McIntyre Rybak 

Foster, W. W. Laughlin 

Foster, Jr., A. Lehr 

Freind Levi 

Fryer McClatchy 

Gallen Maekowski 

Gannon Madigan 


Gladeck Merry 

Crieco Micozde 

"asmy Miller 

Hasay Mowery 

Hayes Nahill 

Honaman Noye 


Jackson Peterson 


Kennedy Punt 

Lashinger Ritter 

NOT VOTING-7 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Smith. L. E. 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass ~~ 

Whit? ~.... 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Zwikl 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Snyder 

Stairs 

Swift 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Vroon 

Wenger 

Weston 

Wilson 

Wright, J. L. 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Alden Kanuck Pitts Williams. I. D, 

Gray Lewis Taddonio 






amended? 

Mr. LASHINGER offered the following amendments No. 

A2954: 

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I 

Amend Title, page 1, line 18 by inserting after "quota" 

; providing for wine stores; 

Amend Bill, page 5, b) inserting hcrween lines l l and 12 

5cctron 2. The act is amended by adding a section to read: 

1 zon 

h) No Pennsylvania wlne store license shall be issued to an 

operating any ,us,ne$s in which food or w prdUctsar: 

sold, nor to a l~ccnscd limited winery.


(i) Licenses issued under the provisions of this section shall 

not be subject to the quota restrictions of section 461 or any 

quota restrictions of this act. 

(j) Pennsylvania wine store licenses shall not be transfer- 

. . at)Le. 

(k) Unless previously revoked, every license issued by the 

board under this section shall expire and terminate on the thirtyfirst 

day of December, in the year from which the license is 

issued. Licenses issued under the provisions of this section shall 

be renewed annually upon the filing of applications in such form 

as the board shall prescribe, but no license shall be renewed until 

the applicant shall file with the board a new surety bond and shall 

py the requisite licensee fee specified in this section. 

(I) Any such license may be suspended or revoked by the 

board upon proof satisfactory to it that the licensee has violated 

any law of this Commonwealth or any regulation of the board 

relating to liquor and alcohol. The procedure in such cases shall 

be the same as for the revocation and suspension of hotel, restaurant 

and club licenses. 

(m) Pennsylvania wine store licensees shall be subject to 

periodic audits, at the discretion of the board. 

Amend Sec. 2, page 5, line 12 by striking out "2" and 

. 

3 


inserting 

4 


inserting 

C 



The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentkman from 

Montgomery, Mr. Lashinger. 

Mr. LASHINGER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker, this is really an adjunct to the Bowser amend- 

ment wherein he allows limited wineries to set UP three retail 

outlets separate and apart from locations where they currently 

manufacture wine. Under the Liquor Code right now, two 

groups of licenses, one permitting the sale at retail of ak0- 

holic beverages, are issued by the Pennsylvania Liquor 

Control Board; the other, a retail dispensers' license which 

allows the sale of beer and other malt beverages. 

What this legislation would do would go a little bit further 

in assisting the wineries and the agricultural industry in this 

Commonwealth. This would establish a new license in the 

Commonwealth just for the specific sale of Pennsylvania 

wines. There are other states currently doing this who are 

involved in the wine industry. New York and California both 

specifically do this in an effort to promote the development of 

their wine industries. 

The restrictions for those who have expressed some concern 

are similar to those already available in the Liquor Code that 

regard liquor retail licenses in Pennsylvania. The standards 

are exactly the same as the standards that apply to other retail 

licenses in regard to where they can be located - the nearness 

to a school, a church, or other facility. The financial require- 

ments are also identical to those available in the Liquor Code 

as regards retail liquor licenses. The only specific thing that is 

done by this legislation is the establishment of this new license 

which would be for just the sole sale of Pennsylvania wines in 

the Commonwealth. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Erie, Mr. Bowser. 

Mr. BOWSER. Mr. Speaker, would Mr. Lashinger stand 

for brief interrogation? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Lashinger, will stand 

for interrogation. The gentleman may proceed. 

Mr. BOWSER. Mr. Speaker, would this be unlimited in the 

amount of stores or would this correspond to what my 

amendment does and what presently is there? 

Mr. LASHINGER. Mr. Speaker, the requirements would 

be the same as currently exist under the Liquor Code. For 

each separate location you would have to be reapplying for a 

separate license, so there would be individual licenses avail- 

able for each operation. It is also important to note that 

unlike retail liquor licenses in Pennsylvania, this would be a 

nontransferable license, so you would not have these Licenses 

all of a sudden quickly increasing in value and being sold all 

throughout the county or throughout the Commonwealth. 

Mr. BOWSER. Now, what you are saying then is it would 

be unlimited according to the present- 

Mr. LASHINGER. I think that is a fair assessment. You 

would have to again, like retail liquor licenses, apply for each 

separate location. 

Mr. BOWSER. I am still not quite clear on it. You know, 

the amendment we just passed will give them three more addi- 

tional stores. Now, are you talking about those stores plus the 

ones they have now or are you talking about an unlimited 

amount of these specialty stores for Pennsylvania wines only? 

M,. LASHINGER. Mr. Speaker, your amendment spoke 

specifically to limited wineries establishing retail outlets. 

Mr. BOWSER. Right. 

M,. LASHINGER. This amendment establishes a new 

license under the Liquor Code For a private individual to come 

in and apply for that licen~e-~~t necessarily having to be a 

limited winery in Pennsylvania-for the purpose of selling 

just Pennsylvania wines. So possibly what would happen in 

YOU, case, Penn Shore would establish its own retail outlet 

just for selling Penn Shore wine. Under this amendment 

someone could come in and sell Bucks Country Vineyard 

,in,,, perm Shore wines, and all the other wines that are 

currently available in Pennsylvania, this with the hope that 

someday the gallonage requirement, the 100,000-gallon limit 

on sales, will be removed and the wine industry will be 

baoming in Pennsylvania and doing well and that this will be 

good for the industry and also be good for these people who 

hold these licenses and really took the risk at getting involved 

in this industry while it was in its infancy stages. 

M,. BOWSER. Mr. Speaker, the product would limit it 

but is there a quota in your bill per number in the state? 

if the was there, if I qualified, could I open 100 

stores? 

M,. LASHINGER. That is correct, Mr. Speaker, but that is 

not unlike and that is why I was trying to point out the correlation 

between retail licenses, liquor dispensing licenses in the 

commonwealth now, and this license. You can do that 

with liquor licenses, but you would have to separately 

apply for each new location. You could not develop one 

license and open up 100 stores.


Mr. BOWSER. All right. You answered my question, but 

the supply of Pennsylvania wines which you do have in there 

is going to limit it very much right at this point. 

Mr. LASHINGER. Could you repeat that, Mr. Speaker? 

Mr. BOWSER. I said the supply of Pennsylvania wines is 

going to limit your amount of locations at this point very 

much. 

Mr. LASHINGER. That is absolutely correct. 

I do not imagine that this type of license will be one that will 

be quickly sought after. I would think that in the future as this 

industry continues to develop, it would become a license that 

would be sought out and the thoughts of opening up specialty 

wine stores specifically for Pennsylvania wines, for the idea of 

promoting those wines solely, would be taken up by many. 

Mr. BOWSER. Just so the members understand, like I said, 

100,000 gallons per winery times 23, that is what your product 

would be right now, and the only way you could increase that 

is by legislation right here in these two bodies. Thank you. 

MR. ANDERSON REQUESTED TO PRESIDE 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman from York, Mr. 

Anderson, take the rostrum to relieve the Speaker for a 

moment? 

CONSIDERATION OF SB 277 CONTINUED 



Mr. RITTER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker, I think tbat this amendment-and in inter- 

rogation it was pointed out-is an unlimited provision, that 

the Liquor Board theoretically could, because it does not say 

that you have to have a certain quantity of wine in your store; 

you just have to have a $75 license fee and an annual renewal 

fee of $M)O to get one of these stores. I am concerned that if 

you do this and you allow this, what you are really doing is 

opening up the whole state store system to private enterprise. I 

do not know if that is what you want to do. I do not intend to 

do that, but I am concerned that that might very well be what 

you are going to do, because as Mr. Bowser pointed out, there 

is a limited amount of Pennsylvania wine that is available. 

If these licenses are issued particularly because the board 

may need some additional revenue, and then they come back 

here to us and say, look, we have the license but there is not 

enough product to sell, you have got to allow us to sell other 

wines made in other states, we may very well do that, and then 

later on they will be back again saying now you ought to let us 

sell whiskey and gin and everything else in that store because 

we cannot compete otherwise. 

1 think this is a forerunner of private enterprise, of private 

stores replacing the state liquor store system. I am not sure 

that that is the intent, but I think that may very well be the 

outcome. I am opposed to that concept, and, Mr. Speaker, on 

that basis I am going to vote against the amendment. 

I 

THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE 

(JOHN HOPE ANDERSON) IN THE CHAIR 


gentleman from Lancaster, Mr. Brandt. 

Mr. BRANDT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Will the gentleman, Mr. Lashinger, consent to brief interrogation? 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. He indicates that he shall. 

The gentleman may proceed. 

Mr. BRANDT. Mr. Speaker, under paragraph (c) it says 

about a referendum. That is the last it discusses that. Every 

time there is one of these applications made, there has to be a 

referendum in that local municipality. Is that correct? 

Mr. LASHINGER. Mr. Speaker, I am looking at subsection 

(c). Could YOU state your question again, Mr. Speaker? 

Mr. BRANDT. Yes. 

In the amendment, the third paragraph, (c), it may not bein 

that one, but it discusses a referendum being held for these 

licenses. Is that for every license? Excuse me. Mr. Speaker; 

under (d). 

Mr. LASHINGER. I see that now, Mr. Speaker, under 

subsection (d). 

Mr. BRANDT. "No Pennsylvania wine store shall be 

located within three hundred feet of any elementary or 

secondary school, nor within a municipality without there 

first having been a referendum approving such location." 

Mr. LASHINGER. Mr. Speaker, that is current Liquor 

Code language. What that enables certain municipalities to do 

is to opt for being dry, and we adhere to that language, in 

fact, as does the amendment to SB 277 in regard to the issuance 

of new privately owned municipal golf course Licenses. It 

respects those communities tbat have opted to go dry. This 

amendment respects that and would not allow Pennsylvania 

limited wine stores in those locations. 

Mr. BRANDT. I sincerely tend to disagree with the 

gentleman, because it is underlined and it shows new 

language. That is the last time a referendum issue is shown. 

That is all of the interrogation, Mr. Speaker. 

1 On the back page it talks about "No Pennsylvania wine 

store license shall be issued to any person operating any business 

in which food or food products are sold, nor to a licensed 

1 limited winery." In the area of talking about food or food 

products sold, I really do not feel that language is strong 

enough, is close enough, to really, as the gentleman from 

Lehigh pointed out, bust open the liquor control system as far 

as the control of it, and I can really see every grocery store, 

food market, across the Commonwealth having a limited 

winery license. 

I strongly favor the wine industry. I agree with the Bowser 

amendment that this is what this industry needs. If this 

amendment is geared to our wine industry. I think it would be 

a detriment to that industry, and I oppose this amendment. 



gentleman from Montgomery, Mr. Lashinger. 

Mr. LASHINGER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.


- -- 

As a follow-up to some of the remarks, Mr. Speaker, I just 

want to assure that if I had thought that this was an attempt to 

go private, I would have made that point. 1 would have 

thought that it would have picked more votes in this House 

with that charge than in saying that it is an effort to keep the 

state in control of the liquor industry - the charge that this 

would open up the liquor industry even further with the 

thought that the limited wine stores will he coming back and 

saying that there is insufficient product and, therefore, let us 

start to sell other forms of other kinds of wine in these Penn- 

sylvania wine stores. It is clear that that is not the intent of the 

amendment, Mr. Speaker. It is very clear that the intent is to 

promote the wine industry and, while it does not say it specifi- 

cally, promote the grape growers in the Commonwealth and 

help them economically and hope that someday we can be on 

a par with the California and New York wineries. 

So I would hope that the members would not think that this 

is an effort to open up the system. In fact, it probably goes in 

the opposite direction and keeps the Liquor Control Board in 

charge of the licenses that are distributed throughout Penn- 

sylvania. 


gentleman from Erie, Mr. Bowser. 

Mr. BOWSER. Mr. Speaker, I am going to have to oppose 

this amendment. I have talked to a few people. I did not have 

a chance to talk to many in the wine industry today, but I am 

afraid it might jeopardize what we have just done here. And 

to the gentleman, Mr. Lashinger, if this goes down, I will 

work with him and we can explore this further and possibly 

get some support for it down the road. Thank you. 




YEAS-I8 

Burns Hoeffel Reber Van Horne 

Cornell Lashinger Snyder Wilson 

Dawida Michlovic Stewart Wozniak 

Greenwood Nahill Taddonio Wright. J. L 

Hagarty Petrone 

NAYS-178 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Bersan 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brawn 

Burd 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Emerson Levin 

Evans Lewis 

Fee Livengood 

Fiseher Lloyd 

Fleck Lucyk 

Foster, W. W. McCall 

Foster, Jr., A. McClatchy 

Frazier Mclntyre 

Freind McMonaele 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Gray 

Greenfield 

Grieeo 

Gruitza 

Grup~o 

Haluska 

- 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderina 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith, E. H 

Smith, L. E. 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Clark 

Clymer 

Harper 

Hasay 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Swift 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Hayes 

Honaman 

Murphy 

NOY~ 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Colafella Horgos 0'~onnell Tigue 

:z''isco 

Hutchinson, A. Oliver TreUo 

Hutchinson, W. Pendleton Vrwn 

cos~ett lwis Perzel Wachob 

Cowell 

E';:? D ~ v 

ltkin 

Johnson 

Kanuck ~ ~ 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Phillips 

~ Piccola ~ 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

DeWeese Kennedy Pievsky Weston 

Klingaman Pistella Wiggins 

~ ~ v Kolter % ~ 

Dietl Kowalyshyn 

Dininni Kukovich izf::xfki Laugh'in 

~ Pitts 

Pott 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Williams, H. 


WOW 

Wright, D. R. 

Lehr Punt Zwikl 

Darr Lescavilz Rappaport 

Duffy Letterman Rasco Ryan. 

Durham Levi Richardson Swaker 

NOT VOTING-1 

white 

EXCUSED-4 




on the question recurring, 

will the House agree to the bill on third consideration as 

amended? 

M~. STEVENS offered the following amendment No. 

A2970: 

Amend Sec. 1 (Sec. a), page 2, line 13, by striking out "a 

secondary" and inserting 

not more than one detached 




gentleman from Luzerne, Mr. Stevens. 

Mr. STEVENS. Mr. Speaker, I feel like the Arab's son who 

has just inherited his father's harem. I know what I must do, 

but I do not know where to begin. 

This amendment is very simple, and all it would do- A 

golf course is permitted nnder this bill to have a secondary 

building, such as a clubhouse, to dispense liquor. All this 

amendment would do is say that no golf course could have 

more than one such building, because in speaking with some 

of my colleagues, they were concerned that a golf course 

might put up a building on each hole. So the purpose of this 

amendment is to just say that a golf course can only have one 

detached building on the premises, as the bill itself says, for 

the purpose of serving liquor. 




YEAS-182 

Alden Evans Lucyk Salvatore 

Anderson Fee McCall Saurman 

Armstrong Fleck McClatchy Seraf~ 

Afiy Foster, W. W. Mclntyre Sevcntyr

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio - ~~~~- 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Foster. Jr ., A. McMonagle 



Fryer 

Madigan 

Gallagher Maiale 



Geist Marmion 

Gladeck Merw 

Grabowski ~ichiovic 





GNPPO Mowery 

Hagany Mrkonic 


Harper Murphy 

Hasay Nahill 

Hayes Noye 


Horgos Oliver 




Ltkin Petrarca 

Johnson Petrone 

Kanuck Phillips 

Kennedy Piccola 


Kolter ~ ~ 

- Pott ~ 

Kowalyshyn Pratl 



Lehr Rappapon 

Lescavitr Rasco 



Levin Rieger 

Lewis Ritter 


Lloyd Rybak 

I VAYS-8 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Socncer 

Gitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Wachab 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright. D. R 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Dietz Hocffel Laughlin Tigue 

Fixher Iackson Moehlrnano Vroon 

NOT VOTING-7 

Clark Gallen Pkusky Williams. J. D 

Emerson Gray Pitts 

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amended? 

BILL TABLED 


gentleman from Philadelphia, Mr. Richardson. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. I do have an amendment on this bill 

and respectfully ask the Speaker- He has it drawn up there 

already on the podium, sir. We are waiting for it to come 

down from the Reference Bureau. 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Do I understand the 

gentleman is waiting for his amendments? 


Mr. RICHARDSON. They are on their way down, Mr. 

Speaker. Prior to the call of this bill, it was indicated that it 

would be down in 10 or IS minutes. I spoke to the Speaker 

prior to him appointing the pro tem. 

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, SB 277 

will be laid upon the table. The Chair hears none. 






House of Representatives to SB 866, PN 1060, and SB 892, 

PN 1088. 


HOUSE BILLS 



569, PN 1787; HB 571, PN 599, HB 1517, PN 1768; and HB 

1615. PN 1894. with information that the Senate has oassed 

the same without amendment 

THE SPEAKER (MATTHEW J. RYAN) 

IN THE CHAIR 

The SPEAKER. The Chair thanks the gentleman, Mr. 

Anderson, for presiding. 



following bills, which were then signed: 

HB 569, PN 1787 

An Act providing for adoption of additional capital projects to 

be financed from current revenues of the Boating Fund, Fish 

Fund, and the Game Fund. 

An An amending the act of July 11, 1980 (No. 28A), entitled 

"An act making appropriations to the Treasury Department *** 

and to adjust errors," increasing an appropriation. 

An Act amending "The Administrative Code of 1929," 

approved April 9, I929 (P. L. 177, No. 175), restricting the 

powers of the Environmental Quality Board as to fees charged to 

the public relating to the use of State parks. 

An Act providing for the capital budget for the fiscal year 

1981-1982. 

An Act making appropriations to the Trustees of the Berean 

Training and Industrial School at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.


SB 892. PN 1088 1 The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates he will stand for 

An Act making appropriations to the Trustees of the Univer- 

sity of Pennsylvania. 



Schuylkill, Mr. Lucyk. 

Mr. LUCYK. On HB 1687, amendments A2874 and A2820, 

I wish to be recorded in the affirmative. 



QUESTION OF INFORMATION 



Mr. RITTER. Mr. Speaker, would you be kind enough to 

tell the members whether or not we are going to take a break 

for dinner, or if not, how long we are going to be working? 

I am hungry, Mr. Speaker; I mean, I do not know about 

you, but I am hungry. And I havea free dinner, too. 



L~coming, Mr. Grieco. For what Purpose does the gentleman 

rise? 

Mr. GRIECO. Mr. Speaker, on SB 425, amendment 

A2566 1 would like to change my vote to "yes." Thank YOU. 



CALENDAR CONTINUED 

AMENDED HOUSE BILL RETURNED 

FOR CONCURRENCE CONSIDERED 

The clerk of the Senate, being introduced, returned the 

following HB 261, PN 1889, with information that the Senate 

has passed the same with amendment in which the concurrence 

of the House of Re~resentatives is reauested: 

An Act relating to the lawful conduct of bingo, prescribing 

penalties and making a repeal. 


Will the House concur in Senate amendments? 


Bucks, Mr. Burns. 

Mr. BURNS. Mr. Speaker, thank you. 

I believe Representative Rocks from Philadelphia has a 

question on the bill, and I will be glad to take interrogation. 


Philadelphia, Mr. Rocks. 

Mr. ROCKS. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman, Mr. 

Burns, consent to brief hut important interrogation? 

Mr. BURNS. I will. 

. 

interrogation. The gentleman, Mr. Rocks, may proceed. 

Mr. ROCKS. Mr. Speaker, in HB 261, 1 guess commonly 

referred to now as the bingo bill, many of the churches and 

other organizations which will qualify for licenses have inter- 

nally established separate organizations within their own 

structures. Examples would be the men's society or the 

women's society or the various Sunday school classes of the 

church, or the most important example for my own consider- 

ation, the various alumni organizations of Roman Catholic 

High School in Philadelphia. Will they each qualify for 

licenses? 

Mr. BURNS. Mr. Speaker, to answer the gentleman's ques- 

tion, as long as each such separately established organization 

meets the other qualifications of the bill - that is, has been in 

existence for 2 years and uses the proceeds for the general 

purposes of the parent religious or charitable organization - 

then it is the intent of this bill that they would each qualify for 

a separate license. 

Mr. ROCKS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman. 


Columbia, Mr. Stuban. 

Mr. STUBAN. Mr. Speaker, may 1 interrogate the sponsor 

of the bill? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates he will stand for 

interrogation. The gentleman, Mr. Stuban, may begin. 

Mr. STUBAN. The previous speaker asked a question, and 

in your answer you said that as long as the funds were used for 

charitable, civic, or religious work. How do you interpret this: 

I would like to get an interpretation of possibly a club that has 

a liquor license and they run a bingo game. Can they use any 

of the moneys from the bingo game to subsidize the bar? 

Mr. BURNS. No, Mr. Speaker. Any money that comes 

from that bingo game must be used for a charitable purpose. 

Now, a charitable purpose would not be running a bar. 

Mr. STUBAN. Well, then what we are saying here is that 

this club can conduct a bingo game, but all the money that is 

derived from the bingo game would have to be used in chari- 

table purposes. We could not use it for the barroom; wecould 

not use it for the upkeep of the building. 

Mr. BURNS. That is correct, Mr. Speaker. They could not 

use it for that purpose. They could use it for benefits to the 

members. For example, if they had a situation whereby they 

provided care for crippled children or took w e of men, for 

example, in the fire company who got hurt in the line of duty. 

They could use it for any of those kinds of things, but they 

could not use it to build a new wing-I do not believe we 

could say that they could use it to build a new wing-on a 

building or something of that nature. 

Mr. STUBAN. Well, then what we are saying here is that 

the intent of this piece of legislation would say that the Elks 

Club or, you know, the Ukrainian-American Citizens Club 

would have to keep two sets of books. They would have to 

have a set of books for the bingo game and show what they 

are doing with the money from the bingo game. 

The SPEAKER. The question before the House is concurrence 

in Senate amendments, so the debate should be limited 

to the Senate amendments.


Mr. STUBAN. Okay. Mr. Speaker, then one question 1 The SPEAKER. The gentleman may proceed. 

would like to ask that has been a change since it went over to Mr. ROCKS. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

the Senate. When the bill left here and went over to the Mr. Speaker, I assume that it is the will of this House to 

Senate, it said that this act shall take effect immediately. Why concur in the Senate amendments finally in the bingo legislawas 

it changed to 120 days? 

tion. 1 am, however, left with a lingering concern, although I 

Mr. BURNS. I believe the reason that the Senator told me was party myself to the compromise in this House on the 

who handled the bill in the Senate was that it allowed for the limits that now do appear in the bill, and that concern directly 

counties and the different organizations to gear up to get the relates to a high school in the city of Philadelphia, a Catholic 

paperwork and whatever was needed to be in place started. high school, whose alumni association has virtually under- 

They just could not be immediately, because obviously, if we written the operating expenses of that school, and it seemed 

were to pass it and the Governor were to sign it tonight, the important to put in the record that I will probably make an 

county treasurers could not have geared up in time, and that attempt legislatively to deal with that problem when we return 

was the request of the County Treasurers Association, I to this General Assembly in the fall. 

believe. 

1 will concur, along with, I guess, the majority of the House 

Mr. STUBAN. Then the only intent and purpose was for tonight, in the passage of HB 261. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

the counties to get the bill going? 


Mr. BURNS. That isall I know. I met with thecounty asso- Mifflin, Mr. DeVerter. 

ciations, and they informed me that that was their reason, and Mr. DeVERTER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I have never heard any other. 

Briefly, may 1 interrogate Mr. Burns quickly on one point, 

Mr. STUBAN. No further questions, Mr. Speaker. Thank sir? 

you. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman may proceed. 

The SPEAKER. On the question of concurrence, the Chair Mr. DeVERTER. Mr. Speaker, one of the objections that I 

recognizes the gentleman from Indiana, Mr. Wass. 

found in the bill when it first left the House was the fact that 

Mr. WASS. May I interrogate the sponsor, Mr. Burns? the associations, which in many cases in my area would be fire 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates he will stand for company associations, were not permitted to own their own 

interrogation. The gentleman, Mr. Wass, may proceed. equipment. I see that that language has been stricken, and 

Mr. WASS. Mr. Speaker, did the Senate amend the part of now there is a penalty in the bill that would provide that if 

the bill that referred to a charter for two years, that you had they do not own it, they can have a violation filed against 

to be chartered for 2 years? 

them. Is my interpretation correct, sir? 

Mr. BURNS. No; negative. That is not so. 

Mr. BURNS. I believe it is. If you will give me a moment, I 

What the Senate said in their amendments, they gave four would just like to confer with Mr. Dorr on that. 

amendments. Number one said that in a city such as Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that now, because of 

Philadelphia that is a home rule city, they do not have a some changes made in committee in the Senate, that would be 

recorder of deeds. Therefore, they gave the power to issue the perfectly all right. 

license in the city of Philadelphia to the person who normally Mr. DeVERTER. That if they own their own equipment, 

issues licenses for the city. 

they are all right? 

The second amendment they made was they gave the Mr. BURNS. Thatisexactly correct. 

district attorney the authority to prosecute vice the county Mr. DeVERTER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

treasurer. 


The third amendment was that any supplier of bingo Bucks, Mr. Burns. 

products could not have any interest in the bingo games. Mr. BURNS. Mr. Speaker, I suggest that the House concur 

And the fourth amendment they added was simply that any in the amendments inserted by the Senate. 

senior citizens organization that played bingo for senior 

citizen groups-in other words, the organization played bingo 

and they did it in their center and they utilized only senior 

citizen participants-then their licensing fee was reduced from 

$100 to $50. 

Mr. WASS. Mr. Speaker, did the Senate amend the total 

the question recurring, 

Will the House concur in amendments? 

The SPEAKER. Agreeable to the provisions of the Constitution, 

the yeas and nays will now be taken, 

YEAS-179 

amount of prize money that can be won in a 24-hour period? 

Mr. BURNS. No, Mr. Speaker, they did not. However, as I 

recall, there was something put in that tightened up what a 24hour 

period was so that one game could not span 2 days. 

AI~C" 

Anderson 

A'mstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Fleck MclntyIe 

Faster, W. W. McMonaglc 

Fostn' lr., *' McverN 

Frazier Mackowski 

Frcind Maiale 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sicminski 

Mr. WASS. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. 


Philadelphia, Mr. Rocks. 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Eeloff 

Berson 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gamble 

Cannon 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merrv 

Smith. B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snvder 

Mr. ROCKS. On concurrence in Senate amendments, Mr. 

Speaker. 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

&deck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

~ichiovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Spcnar 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Boyes Greenwood Misevich Steiher 

Brandt Grieco Moehlmann Stevens


Brown Gruilza Morris Stewart 

time to stand up and be counted on the question of vehicle 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweei 

Swift 

emission inspections in Pennsylvania. 

This bill gives the General Assembly the chance to do the 

right thing, and it gives the Governor the chance to do the 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Hasay 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

right thing. It also gives Governor Thornburgh the chance to 

make amends with the people of Pennsylvania for having 

vetoed similar legislation a year and a half ago, legislation 

Clark 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 



lrvis Petrane 


Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Wachob 

which had the overwhelming support of this House. 

The proposed inspection program lacks both merit and fairness. 

It is reliably estimated that it would make a negligible 

Cole 

Cardisco 

Camell 

Caslett 

Jackson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

contribution to cleaner air. Ten years of enforcement would 

barely reduce the hydrocarbons by 5 percent, as proposed by 

the Federal Government. As proposed by the Federal Govern- 

Cawell 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Pott 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Westan 

Whitc 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

ment, this inspection program would exclude heavy trucks 

and fleet vehicles, and thus, at the cost of millions of dollars, 

it all would fall most heavily upon the passenger cars and the 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dininni 

Dombrawaki 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Laughhn 

Lehi 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levin 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

Rappapon 

Rasca 

Rebei 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Worniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

average motorists. 

It is a program that asks the states to enforce upon older 

cars what the Congress of the United States is apparently 

unwilling to enforce on the new-car manufacturers. 

And finally, it is a program that completely ignores the fact 

that in recent years smaller cars and reduced driving have 

Durham 

Evans 

Fee 

Clymer 

Cunningham 

Dietr 

Fischer 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Gallen 

Geist 

Hayes 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

NAYS-13 

Johnson 

Levi 

Madigan 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Peterson 

Sirianni 

Vroon 

already significantly cut the consumption of gasoline and the 

pollution that comes from burning gasoline. 

The only unresolved question, Mr. Speaker, about this 

inspection program seems to be in the mind of the Governor, 

and those questions seem to relate to his unwillingness to take 

up the defense of our state Constitution. On this question, I 

believe the resolve of the General Assembly is even stronger 

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than it was 18 months ago. If we are willing to stand up and be 

Bawser 

Emerson 

Gray Lewis Pendleton 

counted, the Governor should do the same. In recent months 

Governor Thornburgh has given indications that he now 

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agrees with the views of the General Assembly concerning this 


unwarranted and unfair inspection program. Therefore, the 

Governor ought to welcome this legislation. His signature on 


the affirmative, the question was determined in the affirmathis 

bill will tell the people of pennsylvania where the 

covernor and hopefully he will stand with the ceneral 

tive and the amendments were concurred in. 

Assembly against the auto emissions enforcement program. 

Ordered, That the clerk inform the Senate accordingly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


AMENDED HOUSE BILL RETURNED Bucks, Mr. Wright. 


Mr. J. L. WRIGHT. Mr. Manderino's comments prompt 

me to make a comment or two. This bill in its initial version 


following HB 456, PN 18W, with information that the Senate 


of the House of Representatives is requested: 

a 'csunset~ bill to eliminate from state law our responsi. 

bilities for Valley Forge state Park since it has become a 

national park, The Senate has chosen to language 

regarding states' rights and language regarding the emission 

An Act amending "The Administrative Code of 1929," control program. 

approved April 9, 1929 (P. L. 177, No. 179, abolishing the 

Valley Forge Park Commission, imposing restrictions on the 

Department of Transportation relating to auto emissions inspections 

and making repeals. 


I join with Mr. Manderino and urge adoption of the Senate 

amendments, and let us make this a nonpartisan, bipartisan 

effort, Thank you, 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recoenizes the maioritv . . leader. 



The ultimate solution to this problem is to have the Federal 

~h~ SPEAKER. ~h~ chair the minority whip. statute changed in Washington, D.C. We can vote for this 

M~. MANDERINO. M~. speaker, 1 rise to ask for a bill-l am certainly prepared to do so-and the Governor can 

concurrence vote on HB 456 in the Senate amendments. It is I sign it-which I believe he is prepared to do, because he is as

frustrated as we are in this House of Representatives-but the 

final solution is having the law changed in Washington, D.C. 


On the auestion recurring. 


The SPEAKER. Agreeable to the provisions of the Constitution, 

the yeas and nays will now be taken. 


Ordered, That the clerk inform the Senate accordingly. 

AMENDED HOUSE BILL RETURNED 


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following HB 643, PN 1888, with information that the Senate 


of the House of Representatives is requested: 

Alden Fee Lucyk Salvatore 

An Act providing limited civil and criminal immunity to 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Belaff 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madiaan 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

persons donating food to charitable or religious organizations for 

distribution to needy persons and imposing certain powers and 

duties on counties. 

I 



Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirane 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Calafella 

Cale 

Cardirco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedia 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Die12 

Dininni 

Dambrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Gray 

Callagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Crabowski 

Crcenfield 

Greenwood 

Griem 

Gruitra 

Cruppa 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Hanaman 

Horgas 

Hutchinson. 

Hutchinsan, 

lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kalter 

Kawalyshyn 

Kukavich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

~aiaie 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micazzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Dannell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

A. Perzel 

W. Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitls 

Pot1 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapon 

Rasco 

Reber 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

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Smith, 9. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighncr 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swih 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trella 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wachab 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 

Williams. I. D 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Womiak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Deal George Hei~er Olasz 


the affirmative, the question was determined in the affirmative 

and the amendments were concurred in. 



Mr. FREIND. Mr. Speaker, I suggest that the House 

concur in the amendments inserted by the Senate to HB 643, 

PN 1888. 




tution, the yeas and nays will now be taken. 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Bersan 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Barski 

Bawser 

Bayes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burns 

Caltagirane 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cale 

Cardisco 

Carnell 

Coslett 

Cawell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Callen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



his 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Mwhlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

Pot1 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saunnan 

Serafmi 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Wachab 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wager 

Wcston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williamr. H. 

Williams. J. D 

Wilson 

Wogan


Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Lehr 

Lescovitr 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Rappaport 

Rasco 

Reber 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, 1. L. 

Zwikl 

Mr. KUKOVICH. Mr. Speaker, could I ask Mr. Noye to 

stand for interrogation briefly? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman indicates he will stand for 

interrogation. The gentleman may proceed. 

Emerson 

Evans 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Rilter 

Racks 

NAYS-0 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Mr. KUKOVICH. Mr. Speaker, do you know if it is necessary 

to change statutory language? I mean, since we do have a 

Supreme Court decision, I am just trying to understand what 

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the need is for this legislation. 

Burd Gray Vroon 

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Mr. NOYE. The legislation was the result of I do not know 

if it is proposed or talked-about legislation that Senator 

O'Pake was considering in the state Senate. When this bill 


appeared on the calendar, he chose this vehicle, evidently, as 

The majority required by the Constitution having voted in the means of moving most expeditiously to alleviate crowded 

the affirmative, the question was determined in the affirma- conditions in our county prisons. 


Mr. KUKOVICH. I am not sure I understood the answer. I 

Ordered, That the clerk inform the Senate accordingly. am not convinced that this legislation is necessary. 1 think we 

should at least get it back to a conference committee and see if 

AMENDED HOUSE BILL RETURNED they can come back to us with some explanation as to why this 

FOR CONCURRENCE CONSIDERED is necessary. I hate to see us vote for a bill that is not needed. I 

think under the Supreme Court decision if there is a current 

The clerk of the Senate, being introduced, returned the emergency, I think they should be able to handle it. 

following HB 644, PN 1979, with information that the Senate Mr. Speaker, 1 will defer to Mr. Alden, if he can answer my 

has passed the same with amendment in which the concur- question. 

rence of the House of Representatives is requested: 

Mr. ALDEN. Mr. Speaker, if I may. I think there was a 

An Act repealing acts and parts of acts insofar as they require 

certain prisoners to he confined separate and apart from other 

judicial decision in Philadelphia that required that it be one 

man to one cell, which would have necessitated, I believe, 800 

persons. 

n- +ha n..oo+i,.- / V" .1..yY.~LIuI., 


he SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from 

Berks, Mr. Gallen. 

Mr. GALLEN. Mr. Speaker, I suggest that the House 

concur in the amendments inserted by the Senate to HB 644, 

PN 1979. 

people being allowed to leave prison, some that certainly 

should not have been out on the street, and I think this is what 

prompted the legislation and legislative change. 

Mr. KUKOVICH. I am sorry. That still does not entirely 

answer . ~~estion. . I still would think that the Supreme 

Court decision is enough to solve that problem, so 1 still do 

not need for this specific bill. 

ALDEN, well, unfortunately, sometimes in pen,,sylvania 

they interpret it under the Pennsylvania Constitution 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the minority leader 

on the question. 

Mr. IRVIS. Mr. Speaker, 1 believe HB 644 is a controversial 

matter. I would prefer that Mr. Gallen explain on the 

floor of the House- Is Mr. Gallen present? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Noye, is prepared 

explain. 

Mr. IRVIS. If Mr. Noye explain the Senate amendments. 

There may be those on this side who will not agree with 

its concurrence. 

Mr. NOYE. Mr. Speaker, the Senate struck the original 

intent of the bill as it related to the Department of Health 

setting regulations for the piacement of Crypts and mausoleums. 

They replaced it with a provision that allows the placemerit 

of prisoners Or three a cell, in response to the 

recent Supreme Court decision. This is the crux of the Senate 

amendment. 

Mr. IRVIS. I thank the gentleman, Mr. Speaker. 

I am calling On the Democratic Party as a leader 

nonconcur, but I shall personally vote "no" on the motion to 

concur. 


Westmoreland. Mr. Kukovich. 

instead of the United States Supreme Court decision, under 

their constitution. 

~h~ SPEAKER. ~h~ chair recognizes the gentleman from 

philadelphia, M~. ~ i ~ h ~ ~ d ~ ~ ~ , 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, I have the same 

problem the prior speaker had. 1 would just like to say that it 

seems to me that the Supreme Court decision or ruling that 

two or three in a cell is not unusual, cruel punishment for 

those who are in cells is certainly seemingly a little bit beyond 

my wildest dreams, particularly if you have ever been to 

~ ~ prison or l to the detention ~ center ~ and seen ~ the 

footage of cell space that is available. To stack them 

top of one another and put them in the same cell would 

seem to me that it would be cruel and unusual punishment, 

particularly since it has been founded that way for about 10 or 

I I years, 

1 would agree with the prior speaker and indicate that there 

is not a necessity for this particular piece of legislation, but I 

ask that there be further study and investigation, and I ask 

that the House nonconcur in the senate amendments, 


Delaware, spitz, 

b

Mr. SPITZ. Mr. Speaker, I believe we should concur in this 

because there is an emergency situation. But I think the 

members of the House should be aware that we are talking 

about two different things. 

The Supreme Court has ruled that more than one prisoner 

in a cell is not per se cruel and unusual punishment. However, 

the Philadelphia situation arises from a Pennsylvania statute 

that was interpreted by a Federal court to indicate that there 

can only be one prisoner per cell. 

If we were silent, if we had no statute, there may be no need 

for this concurrence, at least in an emergency fashion, but our 

statutes are not silent. We have spoken, and we must now 

reverse this or there will be an emergency that will result in an 

unwarranted release of prisoners. 


Harper 

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I Gray Lewis 

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I 


the affirmative, the question was determined in the affuma- 


Ordered, That the clerk inform the Senate accordingly. 

I 

REMARKS ON VOTES 




The SPEAKER. Agreeable to the provisions of the 


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Montgomery, Mr. Saurman. 

Mr. SAURMAN. Mr. Speaker, I failed to vote on HB 456 

and would like the record to show that had I voted, it would 

have been in the affirmative on concurrence in Senate amendments. 


Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Belardi 

Fee 

Fircher 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Showers 

Shu~lnik 


The Chair reconnizes - the nentleman - from Erie, Mr. 

Bowser. 

Mr. BOWSER. Mr. Speaker, on HB 261 my switch was not 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

operating. I would like to be voted in the affirmative on 

concurrence in Senate amendments. Thank you. 


Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannan 

Geist 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Micozzic 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 


The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Chester, Mr. 

Vroon. 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Mr. VROON. Mr. Speaker, on HB 643 my vote was not 

recorded, and 1 would like the record to show that I would 

like to be recorded in the affirmative on concurrence in Senate 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Colafella 

Cordisca 

Cornell 

Grieco Mowery 

Gruitra Mrkonic 

Gruppo Mullen 

Hagany Murohv 

~aiurk-a ahi ill 

Hasay Noye 


Hoeffel Perzel 

Honaman Peterson 

Homos Petrarca 

Hutchinson. W. Petrone 

ltkin Philli~s 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddanio 

Taylor, E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

amendments. 



The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Dauphin, Mr. 

Wambach. 

Mr. WAMBACH. Mr. Speaker, on the reconsideration of 

the ~ Llovd ,~ amendment. ~ ~ ~~~. 1 was not in mv . seat. If I had been in 

~~~ ~ 

my seat, 1 would have voted in the affirmative. 


I spread upon the record. 

Coslett 

Cawell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dietr 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatueci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Barber 

Cohen 

DeWeese 

Dawida 

Evans 




Klingaman Pills 

Kolter Pott 



Lehr Punt 

Lescovitz Rappaport 

Letterman Rasco 

Levi Reber 

Levin Rieger 


Lloyd Rocks 

Lucyk Rybak 

NAYS-21 

Hutchinsan, A. Michlovic 

lrvis Oliver 

Kanuck Pendleton 

Kukavich Richardson 

Lashinger Seventy 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Worniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Wafhob 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Williams. J. D, 




An Act relating to the lawful conduct of bingo, prescribing 

penalties and making a repeal. 

An Act amending "The Administrative Code of 1929," 

approved April 9, 1929 (P. L. 177, No. 175), abolishing the 

Valley Forge Park Commission, imposing restrictions on the 

Department of Transportation relating to auto emissions inspcc- 

tions and making repeals.


HB 643. PN 1888 1 Dietz Lashinner Pucciarelli Wilson 

An Act providing limited civil and criminal immunity to 

persons donating food to charitable or religious organizations for 

distribution to needy persons and imposing certain powers and 

duties on counties. 

HB 644, PN 1979 

An Act repealing acts and parts of acts insofar as they require 

certain prisoners to be confined separate and apart from other 

persons. 



The House proceeded to third consideration of SB 8, PN 8, 

entitled: 

An Act naming the Pennsylvania Route 462 bridge, between 

Columbia and Wrightsville, the Veterans' Memorial Bridge. 



Bill was agreed to 





and navs will now be taken. 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrang 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Comell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVertcr 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Evans Livengood 

Fee Lloyd 

Fischer Lucyk 

Fleck McCall 


Faster, Jr., A. Mclntyre 



Fryer Mackowski 


Gallen Maiale 



Geist Marmian 

Gladeck Merry 


Greenfield Micouie 


Grieeo Mircevich 

Cruitza Moehlmann 

Gruppo Morris 

Hagany Mowery 

Haluska Mrkonic 

Harper Mullen 

Hasay Murphy 

Hayes Nahill 

Hoeffel Noye 


Horgos Oliver 

Hutchinson, A. Pendletan 






Kanuck Piccala 

Kennedv Pievskv 

linga am an ~istella 

Kolter Pitts 

Kowalyshyn Pot1 


Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. 2. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


- 

Dininni Laughlin Punt Wogan 

Dambrowski Lehr Rappaport Wozniak 

Donatucci Lescavitz Rasco Wright, D. R. 

Darr Letterman Reber Zwikl 

Duffy Levi Richardson 

Durham Levin Rieger Ryan, 

Emerson Lewis Ritter Speaker 

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Gray Smith. E. H. Wright, 1. L. 

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Deal George Heiser Dlasz 




the information that the House has passed the same without 

amendment. 

*.* 



An Act amending the act of June 1, 1945 (P. L. 1242, No. 428). 

entitled "State Highway Law," providing for removal by the 

secretary of routes on the State highway system. 



Bill was agreed to. 






Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrang 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Bersan 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Cladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



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Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micouie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendlnon 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Seraf~ 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Tclek 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vroon


Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davier 

Dawida 

Dietz 

lrvis 

llkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piceola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

P~tt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapon 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Dininni Lehr Rasco Wozniak 

Dombrowski Lescovitz Reber Wright, D. R. 

Donatucci Letterman Richardson Wright, I. L. 

Dorr Levi Rieger Zwikl 

~ufry Levin Ritter 

Durham Lewis Rocks Ryan, 

Emerson Livmgood Rybak Speaker 

Evans Lloyd 

NAYS-0 

Gray 

NOT VOTING-1 

EXCUSED-4 




tive. 



amendment. 

* * * 


9211 entitled. 

An Act amending Title 75 (Vehicles) of the Pennsylvania 

Consolidated Statutes further providing for penalties for individ- 

uals evading turnpike tolls. 

On the auestion. 


Mr. PETERSON offered the following amendments No. 

Amend Title, page I, line 2, by inserting after "Statutes," 

providing for illuminated signs on tops of 

trucks and truck tractors and 

Amend Sec. I, page 1, line 6, by inserting after ''6443" 

4307 and section 

Amend Sec. 1, page 1, line 8, by striking out "is" and 

inserting 

are 


8 4307. Use and display of illuminated signs. 

(a) General rule.-Except as otherwise provided in this 

section. no vehicle shall bear or display any illuminated signs, 

letters, numerals or figures of any kind whatsoever. 

(b) Buses.-A bus or school bus may bear an illuminated 

sign stating its use or destination. 

(c) . . Taxicabs.-A taxicab mav carrv on the rear or the too of 

rhr vchlsle lllurn~nated slgns placed ,u as not 111 lnterlrre ulth the 

\ision of the driber through the rear w~nJuw ot the \ehlclc. The 

size and placement of the sign must receive approval of the 

department or be a type approved by the department prior to use 

on the vehicle. 



The SPEAKER. The Cbair recognizes the gentleman from 

Venango, Mr. Peterson. 

Mr. PETERSON. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

This amendment addresses a problem that has arisen in 

some parts of Pennsylvania. Most of our trucking industries 

in recent months or the last couple of years are beginning to 

use windshields or a wind device that deflects and saves 

energy. They put them on the top of the cab of the truck, and 

it helps break the wind as it hits the trailer. 

Many companies across the Nation are building windshields 

that have fluorescent lights in them, thus enabling the compa- 

nies to have their logo or some of their product lines on that 

windshield. All states permit these, and it is the opinion of the 

courts in Lancaster County that Pennsylvania permits them. 

But across the state there are those who have them who are 

being fined by the State Police and local police, because they 

are not specifically allowed in the Vehicle Code. This corrects 

the problem, and the department agrees with it, and I ask for 

your support. 




Anderson Fischer Lucyk Sauman 

Armstrong Fleck McCall Seratini 

Any Foster. W. W. McClatchy Seventy 

Barber Foster, Jr., A. Mclntyre Shupnik 

Belardi Frazier McMonade Sieminski 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Borski 

Bawser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafclla 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hwffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Hutchinson, 

Hutchinson, 

lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

- 

McVerry 

Mackawski 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscwich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perrel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. 2. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

was


BILL RECOMMITTED 


Mr. HAYES. Mr. Speaker, 1 move that HB 1339 be recom- 

mitted to the Committee on Judiciary. 



Motion was agreed to. 

* * * 

The House proceeded to third consideration of HB 1437, 

PN 1640, entitled: 

An Act amending the Election Code,m 

approved June 3, 1937 (P. L. 1333, NO. 320), further providing 

for the qualifications of election officers. 



Mr. RASCO offered the following amendments No. 

A2955: 

Amend Title, page 1, line 12, by removing the period after 

"officers" and inserting 

and further restricting electioneering at 

polling places. 

Amend Sec. I, page 1, line 15, by removing the comma after 

"402" and inserting 

and subsection (d) of section 1220, 

Amend Sec. I, page I, line 16, by striking out "is" and 

inserting 

are 

Amend Sec. I, page 2, by imerl~ng hrtueen lint', 8 and 9 

Sect~on 1220. Rerulat1on5 in Force at Pollinr! Pla;e%.-' ' ' 

(d) All persons,>xcept election officers, Elerks, machine 

inspectors, overseers, watchers, persons in the course of voting, 

persons lawfully giving assistance to voters, and peace and police 

officers, when permitted by the provisions of this act, must 

remain at least [ten (lo)] five hundred (500) feet distant from the 

polling place during the progress of the voting. 

* * 


Will the House aeree to the amendments? 


Allegheny, Mr. Rasco. 

Mr. RASCO. Mr. Speaker, the purpose of this amendment 

that I am submitting to this bill is that at our polling places- 

and it becomes more evident every year-we are getting so 

many poll workers at the polls. They work: they intimidate 

the voters; they block the voting places; and generally they are 

a nuisance at the polls anymore with so many workers. 

Now, the purpose of my amendment is that at the present 

time you have to be at least 10 feet from the polling place to 

work for a candidate or to be a poll worker. I put this amend- 

ment out to make it 500 feet. Now, the reason for the 500 

feet-because I do not think you can say that people cannot 

work at the polls-all we are doing is moving them back about 

three or four blocks if they want to work at the polls. I would 

ask for an affirmative vote for this amendment. 

Another thing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to bring up, last 

year in my district I made a survey, which is the 32d district in 

Allegheny County, and 1 asked the people there, would you 

favor changing the election laws so that no one would be 

permitted to electioneer at the polls, and in that poll over 

2,000 people responded. The vote was 78.8 percent who said 

we do not want poll workers at the polls anymore. With this in 

mind, I would appreciate your support for this amendment to 

this bill. Thank you. 


Philadelphia, Mr. Rappaport. 

Mr. RAPPAPORT. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman 

answer a few questions? 

The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman, Mr. Rasco, consent 

to interrogation? 

Mr. RAPPAPORT. Mr. Speaker, I think the sentiment of 

the House is clear. Let us roll the amendment. 


Allegheny, Mr. Itkin. 

Mr. ITKIN. Hey, look, fellows, we have to stay here 

anyway because they are keeping us here, so you might as well 

have some fun, right? If you think this is an adjournment 

motion, you are wrong, so you can calm down. Right? Okay. 

Now that I have your attention, let me address the amend- 

ment. 

Mr. Rasco states that he wants to eliminate all persons 

within 500 feet of the polls. It says all persons must remain 

500 feet from the polls, right? We use our schools- 

correct?-as polling places. The kids go to school on primary 

day, right? Do you know where 500 feet away from a poll is in 

a school? Do you know what happens to those schools on 

primary day? There will be no classes. Now, if you want to 

give the kids an extra day off from school, vote for the Rasco 

amendment. I suggest we vote "no." 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the gentleman. Mr. 

Rasco. 

Mr. RASCO. I did not quite understand what Representa- 

tive ltkin had to say on the vote. He talked about the schools. 

What I am talking about is people working at the polls for 

candidates. All I am saying in this amendment is if they want 

to work at the polls, they can, but they are going to be three to 

four blocks away from the voting district so they do not 

annoy the voters anymore. The voters are tired of this. They 

do not want poll workers. I would appreciate your support for 

this amendment. 




Blaum Gruitza 

Burd Gruppa 

Burns Hutchinson, 

Clark Koher 

Dawida Livengood 

Dietz McVerry 

Fischer Marmion 

Fleck Merry 

Grabowski 

Michlovic 

Mowery 

A. Murphy 

Noye 

Phillips 

Pott 

Pratt 

Rasco 

Sicminski 

Stairs 

Steighncr 

Swift 

Taddonio 

WaCh0b 

Wilson 

Wright. J. L.

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brawn 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisca 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dininni 

Dombrawski 

Donatucci 

DOII 

Duffy 

Durham Levi 

Emerson Levin 

Evans Lloyd 

Fee Lucyk 

Foster, W. W. McCall 

Foster, Jr., A. McClatchy 

Frazier Mclntyre 

Freind ~c~onagle 

Frver - ~, ~~ 

Gallagher 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Gallen Maiale 



Geist Micazzie 

Gladeek Miscevich 

Greenfield Moehlmann 

Greenwood Morris 

Grieco Mrkonic 

Hagany Mullen 

Haluska Nahill 

Harper O'Dannell 

Hasay Oliver 

Hayes Pendleton 


Hanaman Peterson 

Horgos Petrarca 


his Piccola 

ltkin Pievsky 

Jackson Pistella 

Johnson Pitt~ 

Kanuck Pucciarelli 

Kennedy Punt 

Klingaman Rappapon 

Kowalyshyn Reber 

Kukovich Richardson 

Lashinger Rieger 

Laughlin Ritter 

Lehr Rocks 

Lescovitz Rybak 

Letterman Salvatore 

NOT VOTING-3 

Gray Lewis Miller 

EXCUSED-4 


- 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Harne 

Vraon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Werton 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 


Wagan 

Warniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Sneaker 












YEAS-186 

Anderson Fee Lucyk Salvatore 

Armstrong Fischer McCall Saurman 

Any Fleck MeClatchy Serafini 

Barber Foster, W. W. McMonagle Seventy 

Belardi Foster, Jr., A. McVerry Showers 

Belfanti Frazier Mackowski Shupnik 

Beloff Freind Madigan Sieminski 

Berson Fryer Maiale Sirianni 

Bittle Gallagher Manderino Smith. B. 

Borski Gallen Manmiller Smith, E. H. 

Bowser Gamble Marmion Smith, L. E. 

I 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clymer 

Coehran 

Cohen 

Calafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Caslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedia 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikelcr 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrawski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Alden 

Blaum 

Gannon Merry 

Geist Michlovic 

Gladeck Miouie 




Crieco Morris 

Gruitza Mowery 

Gruppo Mrkonic 

Hagarty MUII~~ 


Harper Nahill 

Hasay Noye 

Hayes O'Donncll 



Hargos Perrel 



lrvis Petrone 





Kennedy Pitts 


Kolter Pratt 


Kukovich Punt 

Lashinger Rappapan 


Lehr Reber 


Levi Ritter 

Levin Rocks 

Lloyd Rybak 

NAYS-7 

Clark Mclntyre 

Livengoad Stewan 

NOT VOTING-4 

Letterman Lewis 

EXCUSED-4 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stuban 

Swaim 

SWR~ 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Tekk 

Trello 

Van Home 

Vrwn 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 

Williams. 1. D 

Wilson 

Wow 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright. J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan. 

Speaker 

Tigue 




tive. 

Ordered, That the clerk present the same to the Senate for 

concurrence. . 



An Act amending the act of July 28, 1953 (P. L. 723, No. 230), 

entitled, as amended, "Second Class County Code," further 

providing for the hotel room rental tax; providing for its use; 

authorizing appropriations from the excise tax on hotel rooms for 

tourist promotion agencies and imposing restrictions on future 

harness racing tracks in counties of the second class. 



Mr. TADDONIO offered the following amendments No. 

A2887: 

Amend Sec. 1 (Sec. 1970.2), page 2, line 4, by inserting after 

- 

"buildines" 

not used for the retail sale of mershandirc or pan of any 

shopping center, mall or other retail center


-- -~ -~- 

Amend Sec. 3 (Sec. 3061). oaae 8. lines 12 and 13. bv striking 1 NAYS-10 

out "COUNTY TO PROHIBIT.-NO COUNTY OF. THE 

SFCOED CLASS SHALI. PERMIT FUTURE" and inscrr~ng 

Location.-Future 

Amend Sec. 3 (Sec. 3061). .. oaae . - 8, line 13. bv inserting after 

"TRACK" 

shall be prohibited 




Westmoreland, Mr. Taddonio. 

Mr. TADDONIO. Mr. Speaker, this should be an agreed-to 

amendment. It is language that was added after discussion 

within the committee that we did not have time to add in the 

committee. Most of it is technical in nature and has been 

agreed to. I ask the support of the House. 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittlc 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowxr 

Boyes 

Brand1 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cahen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

coweu 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DFVener 

DeWeew 

Daikclcr 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Don 

Duffy 

Durham 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Frcind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Gricco 

Gmitza 

GNPP 

Ha8-y 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hocffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

llkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lmitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Lcvin 

YEAS-180 

Livengood 

Llovd 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Maekawski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Mandcrino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Micozzic 

Miller 

Mochlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

NahiU 

Noyc 

O'Donncll 

Oliver 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Phillips 

Picwla 

Piwsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pralt 

PucciarcUi 

Punt 

Rasco 

Reber 

Richardson 

Riegcr 

Rittn 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saunnan 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighncr 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Swat 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Tclek 

Tigue 

Vroon 

Wachob 

Wambach 

wargo 

Wass 

Wcngcr 

Weston 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 

WiUiams. J. D. 

Wilson 

wogan 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright. I. L. 

Zwikl 

Clark 

Kukovich 

Michlovic Ra~~apoR Van Home 

Miscevich Trcllo Womiak 

Murphy 

NOT VOTING-7 

Emerson Kanuck Pendlelon Whitc 

Gray Lewis Petrone 

EXCUSED-4 

Deal George Heixr Olnu 

The question was determined in the affumative, and the 

amendments were asreed - to. 



amended? 

Mr. MICHLOVIC offered the following amendments No. 

A2841: 

.. - . . . - . 

Amend Title. oane I. line 7. bv insertinn a oeriod after 

"AGENCIES" 

Amend Title. .. oane - 1. lines 7 and 8. bv strikinn out "AND 

IMPOSING RESTR~CT~ONS ON" in line? and allif line 8 

Amend Bill, page 8, lines 6 through 18, by striking out aIl of 

said lines 


inserting 

3. 




Allegheny, Mr. Michlovic. 

Mr. MICHLOVIC. Mr. Speaker. SB 333 as it was origi- 

nally designed dealt with a conventionscnter problem in the 

city of Pittsburgh and its competitor in the outlying suburb 

area of Monroeville, which is all in Allegheny County. The 

bill strictly applies to Allegheny County alone. 

In the House committee a provision was added dealing with 

harness racing, and that provision essentially restricts harncss 

racing from any town that has a convention center under the 

aegis of this bill from being established. There is only one 

municipality that that really applies to, and that is the 

borough of Monroeville, which is immediately adjacent to my 

district. 

The people of Momoeville have opposed a proposed 

racetrack. The racetrack is an estimated $12- to $20-million 

development in 88 acres in the borough of MomoeviUe. The 

plans include, in addition to the track and seating for 10,000 

people, a club and a museum and a major restaurant, in addi- 

tion to the track. The reason why this racetrack is so impor- 

tant to me is because it is immediately adjacent to my district. 

The proposal is expected to generate some 800 to 1.000 jobs 

just in the sports complex, as it will be called, just in the sports 

complex itself. The ancillary development in jobs is supposed 

to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 to 500 jobs in 

restaurants, in hotels that are supposed to be spinoffs from 

this development. 

This harness-racing provision in this bid, as 1 said, applies 

only to one municipality. If we would approve this provision 

in this bill, we would be basically making a local decision


whether or not to allow that development to occur. I suggest 

that that is a matter of the local zoning board and the local 

municipality, and it ought to rest there. We ought not to put 

this in this piece of legislation. Recently, pursuant to this 

whole issue of the racetrack, Allegheny County voters voted 

by almost 2 to 1 to approve harness racing in Allegheny 

County, and I do not think we ought to be rejecting the will of 

the voters on that count. 

The location of this track is in basically what we call the 

Turtle Creek Valley, and a train system is already running 

through that valley. It runs between Greensburg and 

Pittsburgh, and this track would substantiate that train run. It 

would be another means of keeping the train running between 

Pittsburgh and Greensburg, and it is another reason why we 

ought not to preclude the development at this site by adopting 

this feature in SB 333. I am asking in my amendment to take 

the entire feature dealing with harness racing out of the bill so 

that that development can be decided on by the local munici- 

palities, by Allegheny County at the local end. We ought not 

make the decision here, and 1 ask that you approve this 



Westmoreland, Mr. Taddonio. 

Mr. TADDONIO. Mr. Speaker, I would oppose this 

amendment, particularly since the track is located in my legis- 

lative district. It is true that the voters in Allegheny County 

approved the referendum, but in my district, Monroeville 

objected to the referendum by a 440-1 margin for very good 

reasons. One was the poor condition of the highways. A lot of 

other problems would be involved. In addition, the land that 

we have here is prime industrial land that could be developed 

for a much better use for more stable employment, not just a 

seasonal one. I might point out that a harness track only oper- 

ates about half the year, and it would be vacant the rest of the 

time. 

I would appeal to the members of the House to bear with 

the wishes of my district. This does not do anything to over- 

turn any referendum. There are plenty of places in Allegheny 

County to put this track that would not interfere and that 

everyone would be happy with, so I would ask for your 

support. 


Allegheny, Mr. Pott. 

Mr. POTT. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I rise to oppose the Michlovic amendment to SB 333. The 

heavy, congested traffic patterns in Monroeville, with its 

motel, hotel, convention, and mall complexes, are already 

heavily overcrowded. It is not necessary to bring more and 

more people into this area, especially when the citizens of that 

area have spoken resoundingly against any further economic 

development as far as a harness-racing track would go. I 

would certainly appreciate all the members of the House 

listening to the Representative who is from that legislative 

district, that legislative district that is most affected, and 

supporting Representative Taddonio and voting against 

amendment ,42841. Thank you. 


Allegheny, Mr. Seventy. 

Mr. SEVENTY. Mr. Speaker, last week on this floor this 

proposed highway was going to go through my district, and it 

went down by about 40 votes. I would appreciate a vote for 

Mr. Michlovic's amendment. Thank you. 

the question recurring, 


The roll was recorded: 

YEAS-78 

Barber Fce Manderino Showm 

&Ifanti Fryer Miehlovic Shupnik 

Bcloff Gallagher Miwevich Steighcr 

E:," Greenfield Mrkonic StnwaIt 

Gruitla MuUen Stuban 

Borski Haluska Murphy Swaim 

Brown Harper O'DOnneU Taylor, F. E. 

Hocffel Oliver Tiguc 

Cawley Horgos Pctrone TrcUo 

Cofhran lrvis Piwsky Van Home 

Cohen 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cunningham 

Dewcese 

Dombrowski 

DOnatucci 

Duffy 

Emerson 

Evans 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Bclardi 

Bittle 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltagirone 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

I Clark 

DeMedio 

DeVeRer 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Durham 

Don 

Gray 

Deal 

ltkin Pistella 


Kukavich Pucciarelli 

Levin Rebcr 

Lloyd Richardson 

Lucyk Rieger 

McCall Ritter 

MeInty~e Rybak 

McMonagle Seventy 

Maiak 

NAYS-114 

Fircher Lescovitl 

Fleck Letterman 

Foster, W. W. Lcvi 

Foster, Ir.. A. Livengood 

Frazier McClatchy 

Freind McVew 

Gallen Mackowski 

Gamble Madigan 


Gcist Marmion 

Gladeck Mew 

Grabowski Micouie 

Grcenwwd Miller 

Grieco Moehlmm 

GNPP~ M O ~ S 

Hamy MOWW 

Hasay NU 

Hayes Noye 

Honaman Prrzcl 




Johnson Picmla 

Kennedy Pitts 


KoIter Punt 

Lashinger Rappaport 

Laughlin Rasm 

Lchr Rocks 

NOT VOTING- 

Kanuck Lmir 

Wachob 

Wambach 

wargo 

White 

wi& 

Williams. H. 


Salvatore 

Saurman 

Seraf~ 

Siemioski 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

spar 

Spiu 

Suira 

Stwens 

swm 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. 2. 

Telck 

Vrmn 

Was 

wmsm 

waton 

Wilson 

w o w 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, I. L.

I 





Mr. BURNS. Mr. Speaker, I would like to call an imme- 

diate meeting of the Education Committee in the House 

Appropriations room, 246. Mr. Speaker, that is the full 

Education Committee immediately in room 246, the House 

Appropriations room. 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman wait until SB 333 is 

voted? 



amended? 







Alden 

Fischer Mclntyre Seventy 

Anderson Fleck 

McMonaglc Showers 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barbcr 

Foster, W. W. 

Foster, Jr., , A. 

Frazicr 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

&Ifanti Freind Maiale Smith, B. 

Bcloff Gallagher Manderino Smith. E. H. 

Bcrson Gallen Manmiller Smith, L. E. 

Bittlc 

Gamble Marmion Snyder 

Borski 

Bowser 

Cannon 

Geist 

Merry 

Micovie 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Boves 

Gladcck Miller 

Stairs 

~r&dt Greenfield Misccvich Steighner 

Brawn Greenwood Mochlrnann Stevens 

Burd Grieco Morris Stewart 

Bums GNPW Mowery Stuban 

Caltagirone Hagarty Mrkonic Swaim 

Cappabianca Haluska Mullen SWK~ 

Cawley Harper Nahill SwiA 

Ccssar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Haves 

~oiffel 

Honaman 

Nove 

donne^^ 

Oliver 

Taddanio 

Tavlor. E. Z. 

ailo or; F. E. 

Clymer Horgas Pcndleton Telek 

Cochran Hatchinsan, Perzel Tigue 

Cohen Hutchinson. Peterson Van Home 

Colafclla lrvis 

Pctrarca Vroon 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

llkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Petronc 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Wachob 

Wambach 

wargo 

Coslett Kanuck Picvsky Wass 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMcdio 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Koltcr 

Pitts 

P0tt 

Pratt 

Wcngcr 

Weston 

White 

DeWeex Kowalyshyn Pucciarelli Wiggins 

Daikeler Kukovich Punt 

Williams, H. 

Davics 

Dawida 

Lashingcr 

Laughlin 

Rappaport 

Rasco 


Wilson 

Dietz 

Lehr 

Reber 

wogan 

Dininni 

Donatucci 

Lescovitz 

Lcvi 

Levin 

Richardson 

Riener 

~itkr 

Worniak 

Wricht. D. - R. 

~ -~ 

Wright, 1. L. 

Duffy Lloyd Rocks Zwikl 

Durham Lucyk Rybak 

Evans McCall Salvatore Ryan. 

Fee McClatchy Saurman Speaker 


~ ~ - ~ ~ . 

klardi 

Blaum 

Fryer 

Grabowski 

NAYS-15 

Letterman 

Livengood 

Pistella 

Scrafi 

Clark G~itza Michlovic TreUo 

DeVerter Hasly Murphy 

NOT VOTING-4 

Don Emerson Gray Lewis 

EXCUSED4 

Deal George Hcixr Olasz 


the affirmative, the question was determined in the affm- tive. 

Ordered. That the clerk return the same to the Senate with 



requested. 



Mr. BURNS. Mr. Speaker, we are mistaken. The bid is not 

in the Education Committee; it was referred to Local Government. 

So just hold a minute, and I think the Local Government 

Committee will be meeting. 

The SPEAKER. Members of the Education Committee 

need not go to the meeting yet. 

LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMllTEE MEETING 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognizes the chairman of the 

Local Government Committee, Mr. Foster. 

Mr. A. C. FOSTER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

1 would like to call an immediate meeting of the Local 

Government Committee off the floor in room 245, the Appropriations 

Committee room, for consideration of one bill, two 

amendments. 

The SPEAKER. Members of the Local Government 

Committee will immediately retire to the House Appropriations 

Committee room, room 245. 

The House will be at ease. 

I 





An Act vrovidinn that a city of the first class shall sell bonds or 

other secuiities, except as provided herein, issued by it at public 

sale after not less than one public notice for such price, at, above 

or below their par value plus accrued interest, as shall be determined 

by the authorities of the city and providing that such a city 

may sell bonds or other securities at private sale when no 

conforming bid has been received at a prior public sale; and 

providing that the provisions hereof shall apply to all borrowings 

and the issuance of bonds or other securities therefor, whenma 

authorized. 

On the question. 

Will the House agree to the bill on third consideration?



The SPEAKER. This bill has been considered on three The House proceeded to third consideration of SB 633, PN 

different days and agreed - to and is now on final Dassaee. - 650, entitled: 


An Act amending the act of December 22, 1%5 (P. L. 1124, 

Agreeable to the provisions of the Constitution, the yeas NO. 437). . . entitled "DOE - Law of 1965." . ~rovidi~~ . -. rnaltia for 


mistreatment of or interference with police department dogs and 

exempting such dogs from quarantine. 

YEAS-193 




Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Bayes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordiwo 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dambrowski 

Donatucci 

DO" 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Punt 

Evans Livengood 

Fee Lloyd 

Fischer Lucyk 

Fleck McCall 

Foster. W. W. McClatchy 

Foster. Jr., A. Mclntyre 



Fryer Mackawski 


Gallen Maiale 



Geist Marmion 

Gladeck Merry 


Greenfield Micauie 


Grieca Moehlmann 


Gruppo Mawery 

Hagmy 

Haluska 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Harper Murphy 

Hasay Nahill 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Noye 

O'Donnell 



Huvhinson. A. Perzel 


Irvis Petrarca 

Itkin Petrone 


Johnson Piecola 



Klitlgaman Pitts 

Kolter Pott 



Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Rappapon 

Rasco 

Lehr Reber 

Lescavitz Richardson 


Levi Ritter 

Levin Rocks 

Lewis Rybak 

NAYS- I 

NOT VOTING-3 

Gray Millcr Spitz 

EXCUSED-4 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vraon 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Wargo 

wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wagan 

Wozniak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright. I. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan. 

Speaker 






amendment. 


I different days and agreed to and is now on final passage. 




YEAS-191 

Alden 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyer 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cachran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordism 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVencr 

DeWeere 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dambrowski 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster. W. W. 


Frazieier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geirt 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitra 

Gruppo 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hocffel 

Hanaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitr 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

McCall 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Moweri 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

NahiU 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petronc 

Phillips 

Picwla 

Piwsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapon 

Rasco 

Rekr 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Seraf~ 

Seventy 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spar 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighncr 

stwens 

Stcwan 

Stuban 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Vroon 

Wachob 

Wambach 

wargo 

wass 

Wcnger 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 


Wilson 

Womiak 

Wright. D. R. 

Wright. 1. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan. 

Spcakcr


special election," but that is in another part of the amend- 

ment that is the main part of the bill. So the language is taken 

out because it is unnecessary in the bill. 

Mr. A. K. HUTCHINSON. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Bedford, Mr. Dietz. 

Mr. DIETZ. Mr. Speaker, I would like to interrogate 

Representative Gallen or Brandt. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Brandt, consents to 

interrogation. The gentleman, Mr. Dietz, may proceed. 

Mr. DIETZ. Mr. Speaker, do you mean to say that a post- 

election report must be made within 10 days after the elec- 

tion? 

Mr. BRANDT. No, Mr. Speaker. What we are saying here 

is that in the case of a special election, all the reports can be in 

within a matter of 10 days rather than 20 days as in a general 

election. 

Mr. DIETZ. What is the purpose for 10 days on a special 

election and a longer period after a regular election? 

Mr. BRANDT. I believe if you would turn your question 

around, Mr. Speaker, it would be much easier to understand. 

Normally under a general election it takes 20 days for the 

Election Bureau to certify, in the case of us as legislators, our 

election at the county and at the state level. At that time there 

are so many reports in there for them to do. In the case of 

special elections, chances are that is the only election that is 

before the Election Bureau at that time, and there is no reason 

that they cannot get their work done in 10 days so that person 

can ably serve in the capacity that he was elected. 

Mr. DIETZ. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 




tution, the yeas and nays will now he taken. 

YEAS-191 

Alden Fischer McCall Saurman 

Anderson 

Armstrong 

Any 

Barber 

Belardi 

&Ifanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowwr 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bums 

Caltagironc 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civcra 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 


Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladcck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

GNPP~ 

Hagmy 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mawery 

Mrkonic 

Mullcn 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

Clymer Hoeffel O'Donncll Telek 

Cochran Honaman Oliver Tigue 

Cohcn Hargos Pendleton Trello 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith. B. 

Smith. E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitr 

Stairs 

deighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

SWeel 

Swift 

Taddonia 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Colafella Hutchinson. A. Peterson Van Home 

Cole Hutchinson, W. Petrarca Vroon 

Cordisca Irvis Petrone Wachob 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

ltkin Phillips Wambach 

Jackson Piccola Wargo 

Johnson Pievsky Was 

Kanuck Pistella Wenger 

Kennedy Pitts Weston 

Klingaman Pott White 

Kolter 

Kowalvshvn 

Pratt 

Pucciarclli 

Wiggins 

Williams. H. 

Davies ~ukovich. Punt ~illia~; 1. D. 

Dawida Lashinger Rappaport Wilson 

Dietr Laughlin Rasco WOW 

Dombrowski Lehr Reber Womiak 

Donatucci Lescovitr Richardson Wright. D. R. 

Dorr Levi Rieger Wright, J. L. 

Duffy Levin Ritter Zwikl 

Durham Lewis Rocks 

Emerson Lloyd Rybak Ryan, 

Evans 

Fee 

Lucyk Salvatore 

NAYS-4 

s@m 

Clark Letter man Livengwd Pcrzel 

NOT VOTING-2 

Dininni Gray 

EXCUSED-4 



the affirmative, the question was determined in the affmative. 




requested. 

REPORT OF COMMITTEE 

OF CONFERENCE PRESENTED 

Mr. McCLATCHY presented the Report of the Committee 

of Conference on HB 1290, PN 2047. 

SUPPLEMENTAL CALENDAR A 

REPORT OF COMMllTEE 

OF CONFERENCE CONSIDERED 

Mr. McCLATCHY called up for consideration the 

following Report of the Committee of Conference on HB 

1290, PN 2047, entitled: 

An Act to further ~rovide for the exDenses of the Executive. 

1.egislative and ~udicil Departments ofthe Commonwealth. lhc 

~ublic dehr and for the public schools for the fiscal ~eriod July I, 

i981 to June 30, 1982; and to provide additional and supplemental 

appropriations from the Federal Augmentation funds to 

the various departments of the Commonwealth for the fiscal 

period July I, 1980 to June 30. 1981. 


Will the House adopt the Report of the Committee of 

Conference? 



Mr. MULLEN. Mr. Speaker, I ask the members of the 

House to reject the conferees' report, because you have no

other alternative. You either vote "yes" or you vote "no" on 

a conference report. 

Now, the objectionable feature that we have in the confer- 

ence report is found on page 2, line 5. They have for family 

planning $300,000. When the hill came over from the Senate, 

it was $350,000, and all that the conferees did was reduce the 

amount from $350,000 to $300,000. Now, as far as the 

amount is concerned, it is not of paramount importance, 

because most of the family planning clinics-and many of 

them are abortion clinics also, especially the Planned Parent- 

hood groups-receive most of their money from the Federal 

Government under Titles X, XIX, and V. I did send to each 

member this morning a memorandum outlining clearly where 

they received this money and what they did with the money. 

In my memorandum, it is titled "Family Planning Services 

and the Abortion Connection." I am not going into great 

debate over that issue. I think you can read it yourself. 

What I would like the House to do is reject the conference 

committee report with instructions that the report be resub- 

mitted back to the committee with instructions to delete this 

particular sentence and the appropriation and then to report 

the hill back to the House for approval. I have no objections 

personally to anything else in the bill, because there are many 

other items in the bill that are of great importance, hut I think 

it is paramount on our part to assert what I think is the 

majority viewpoint in the House of Representatives. The 

Senate is insisting that this provision be retained in the bill. I 

think it is bad, because basically what it does, it does a lot 

more than family planning, because if you read my brochure, 

you will see that the family planning clinics and the subcon- 

tractors, including Planned Parenthood, receive most of their 

funding as a result of this appropriation. Now, the reason 

why we have not been able to do anything in the past is 

because we had no budget before us so we could vote on this 

individual item. So, therefore, I am not going into lengthy 

debate at this late hour, but I think basically everyone knows 

what the question is. I hope that you can go along with my 

suggestion - reject it with instructions to the conferees to come 

back with a report deleting this from the conference report. 

Thank you. 


Philadelphia, Mrs. Harper. 

Mrs. HARPER. Thank you. Mr. Speaker. 1 will be brief. 

I just would like for the record to state that these family 

planning clinics are not abortion clinics, and I would like for 

everyone to know that. 1 have visited some of them, and I 

know that for myself without hearsay, so I would like to ask 

you to vote for the bill. We need family planning more now 

than we have ever needed it. Especially with so many unwed 

mothers and what have you, we need family planning. Thank 

you. 


York. Mr. Foster. 


I rise rather reluctantly on this issue, because it is seldom 

that I disagree with the gentleman from Philadelphia, Mr. 

Mullen, on the subject of abortion. However, I do not believe 


we are dealing with an abortion issue per se in this conference 

committee report. 

The conference committee report provides funding for 

family planning. I will yield to no one in opposition to abortion. 

I despise abortion, 1 abhor abortion, and I will fight it 

for as long as I am a member of this legislature. But, Mr. 

Speaker, if funding for family planning prevents unwanted 

pregnancies, if you do not have pregnancies, you will not have 

abortions. I feel that the issue before us is a narrow one here, 

dealing with family planning. 

I would urge Planned Parenthood and similar organizations 

to listen to a few other things that I have to say. I think 

they had better clean house, I think they had better change 

their attitudes on abortion, and I think some of the garbage 

that emanates from their publications had better be disposed 

of in a waste can. But nevertheless, if I were a doctor and I 

had a patient who had a cancerous or a gangrenous limb, yes, 

I would amputate that limb, but I would not cut off the good 

limb. I feel that responsible family planning will lessen the 

number of abortions in this Commonwealth and Nation. I 

feel that a "yes" vote on this bill is an antiabortion vote. I 

would urge concurrence on this conference committee report. 


Westmoreland,Mr. Kukovich. 


Mr. Speaker, I feel that we should vote "yes" on this 

conference committee report, and if the argument that has 

been presented to us is the only argument, then 1 think that 

strengthens our position that we should vote "yes." 

I think that trying to raise the issue of abortion on the 

funding of family planning is a red herring. As a matter of 

fact, it tends to frighten me a little bit, because I suppose I 

have occasionally stood on the floor of this House before and 

debated the issues of funding for abortions and abortions. 

That issue is really not discussed here. If we are going to start 

to use that issue to hold this type of bill hostage, then we are 

starting to enter into an era that is rather analogous to 

McCarthyism, where you raise the specter of some sort of fear 

to get people to vote for or against something. 

Mr. Speaker, that is what is happening here. We are m g 

to be frightened by that specter of abortion. The truth of the 

matter is, Mr. Speaker, that about a quarter of a million 

people a year are served by this family planning money, and 

the vast majority of the services provided deal with natural 

family planning. As a matter of fact, $215,000 of that money 

goes to natural family planning programs that are supported 

and cofunded by the Catholic Church. It goes to contracep 

tive services. It goes to screening for venereal disease, cancer 

detection, and various physical examination lab se~ces. I 

think all of you know, because of the plethora of mail that 

you have received on this issue lately, that the money that 

would come in from the Federal Government is prohibited by 

Federal law from being used for abortions. I do not think 

anybody can argue with that fact. 

Mr. Speaker, if this goes back to a conference committee, 1 

think we all know what is going to happen, and that is that 

this Federal money that we need will be held hostage until the


family planning money is wiped out. We are talking about at 

least 50,000 people in this Commonwealth who will not have 

the services that I just ran through. Mr. Speaker, I think that 

is unconscionable. 

I am not going to go on. I think there are lots of valid argu- 

ments, hut the bottom line is 1 would like to support what Mr. 

Foster said, because in truth on this issue, we can prevent 

unwanted pregnancies by the proper counseling that these 

moneys go toward. I would just suggest to the members of 

this House that if you vote "yes" to concur in this conference 

report and if you keep the family planning money in this 

conference report, you will prevent abortions in the State of 

Pennsylvania, and for that reason I would appreciate an affir- 

mative vote. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Cumherland, Mr. Mowery. 

Mr. MOWERY. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I would like to ask Representative McClatchy a question 

regarding the report, please. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. McClatchy, consents 

to interrogation. The gentleman, Mr. Mowery, may proceed. 

Mr. MOWERY. Thank you. 

Mr. Speaker. I understand that there was $2 million initially 

in this for mental health and that it was taken from the hospi- 

tals and given to the community health care homb. Now I 

understand that it has been taken out completely. Is that 

correct? 

Mr. McCLATCHY. What the amendment in the Senate did 

was remove $2 million from our mental health institutions 

and provide that money to the community living arrange- 

ments for the mentally ill. That would mean, for the mental 

health institutions, layoffs of 200 or 300 people. We have 

deleted those provisions from the hill so that the $2 million 

have been restored to the mental health institutions. Unfortu- 

nately, we just do not have $2 million at the present time in 

our present hudget for extra money for community living 

arrangements. It is a priority of mine as it is a priority of 

many of you, and hopefully we will do better for them next 

year. I think there are items that were cut in the hudget in 

addition to mental healthhental retardation. We have 

community colleges; we have the Department of Health; the 

list is long. Hopefully, if we have lapses during the coming 

year, we can put some of these needed items back in the 

hudget, hut right now it is extremely tight, and we have indeed 

removed the problem of taking $2 million away from our 

mental institutions. 

Mr. MOWERY. Mr. Speaker, I am sorry, hut 1 did not 

hear your final statement. There is $2 million now put hack in 

for the mental institutions? 

Mr. McCLATCHY. That is correct. 

Mr. MOWERY. Thank you. 


Dauphin, Mr. Piccola. 

Mr. PICCOLA. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman, Mr. 

McClatchy, yield to interrogation, please? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman consents to interrogation, 

The gentleman, Mr. Piccola, may begin. 

Mr. PICCOLA. On page 2, line 6, of the conference 

committee report, there is a line item for legal services, 

$1,500,000. Could you please explain that appropriatinn, Mr. 

Speaker? 

Mr. McCLATCHY. Yes. We are trying to demonstrate to 

the House that this hill is a compromise. Not everyone got 

what they wanted in it. Originally, community legal services in 

the Governor's hudget was $2,300,000. When it was in the 

hudget, the original hudget we passed some time ago, it was at 

$1,250,000. The Senate in HB 1290 increased it to $1,750,000, 

and the compromise is now at a figure of $1,500,000. 

Mr. PICCOLA. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that 

explanation. 



Mr. FREIND. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

I know it is late, and I think it is a shame that we have to 

fight this battle tonight. This is not our choosing; it is the 

choosing of the Pennsylvania Senate, who made the decision 

to tack onto a Federal augmentation bill several controversial 

items. But the last time I checked, this legislature was 

comprised of two sovereign and independent Houses, and we 

must do what we believe is right. 

I hate to disagree with my close friend, "Peck" Foster, and 

he was quite right when he said that no one is more in favor of 

the prolife movement than himself. I wish the issue were this 

simple. I support contraceptinn-maybe 1 ought to practice it 

myself-and if the issue were that simple, 1 would be happy to 

fund and support funding, hut we are not just talking about 

contraception here, Mr. Speaker. Many of the organizations 

that we fund by this family planning service consider, under 

the category of birth control, abortion. As a matter of fact, 

the main organization which we fund, Planned Parenthood, 

counsels, fosters, and performs abortion. In 1975 at its annual 

meeting, it developed a 5-year plan, and one of the goals was 

in the next 5 years to increase the number of abortions 

performed by 89 percent. That is their avowed purpose, and 

they have demonstrated that time and again. 

I also object, Mr. Speaker-and maybe I am naive here-to 

provide an appropriation to organizations which have proven 

in the past that, A, they will sue us; and then, B, they will go 

into Federal Court and obtain a court order requiring this 

Commonwealth to pay their attorney fees, and that is 

precisely what Planned Parenthood did. If you remember, 2 

or 3 months ago we took out of a supplemental appropriatinn 

hill $100,000 that was put in there pursuant to a court order. 

And if we fund this $300,000, we are not talking about 

$300,000, Mr. Speaker; we are talking about $3 million, 

because there is a Federal match. 

I also have a problem with taxpayers' money funding orga- 

nizations which counsel minors, teenagers - 12, 13, and 14 - 

without parental consent with respect to birth control, with 

respect to abortion, Now, the Supreme Court says that that is 

legal, and that is fine, hut we do not have to do that with 

taxpayers' money, Mr. Speaker, and I think that is a critical 

issue.


If in fact we fund this money, we are going to be supporting 

abortions; we are going to be giving money to groups which 

will continue to counsel abortions; and we are going to he 

giving money to groups that will use that money to turn 

around and sue us in the things that we are trying to do. I 

know it is late and 1 know there are a lot of things in HB 1290 

that are important, but at least in my opinion this issue is crit- 

ical, and I would urge the members of the legislature to vote 

"no" on the conference report on HB 1290. Thank you, Mr. 

Speaker. 



Mr. McCLATCHY. Mr. Speaker, to conclude, this is a 

compromise. I do not think anyone is particularly happy with 

the compromise, but I think it is a compromise. We certainly 

are a sovereigrl body and so is the Senate, and we tried to 

work out as best a deal we could with the Senate. I am sure we 

have not pleased everyone, but it is, again, a compromise. 

The hour is late. It is now almost 8:30 on June 30. There are 

several things in this conference committee report and the 

Federal augmentation bill that will go out of existence as of 12 

o'clock tonight. We need them. There is $2 million for educa- 

tion. There is a couple million dollars for the Department of 

Health, which has been badly hurt by some of the cuts we 

have made in the budget and desperately needs this money. 

Family planning has been cut. We did not give them $350,000, 

we gave them $300,000. The $50,000 cut transfers into a 

reduction of $400,000 of money they will receive - $50,000 we 

gave and the match they would receive from the Federal 

Government - so that the bill they stuck us with for attorney 

fees I think has been covered, and they have been given a 

message. 

Again, Mr. Speaker, this is a compromise. It is the last 

plank in the budget. If we send it back to conference at this 

late date with the instructions for the conferees, I am afraid 

we will not have a bill and that last plank in the budget will 

not become law. I ask for an affirmative vote on the confer- 

ence committee report. 



Mr. Speaker, the budget which is about to be adopted is not 

a Democratic budget, and we will not lay claim to it. There are 

things in that budget with which we disagree as a party. There 

are things in it with which we do agree. I think it is an open 

secret that the leadership on this side of the aisle and the lead- 

ership on the other side of the aisle worked together assidu- 

ously to try and forge a compromise budget, and to a degree 

we have succeeded. 

It is now 25 minutes after 8 on June 30. The Governor waits 

to sign a budget for the fiscal year 1981-1982. Regardless of 

the feelings of those of you who are prolifers, I do not think 

this is the time nor the place for the arguments that have been 

made here tonight. There are too many other things of impor- 

tance riding on the passage of this particular bill. The entire 

budget as it has been structured may ride on your vote on Mr. 

Mullen's motion. Whereas I do not agree with many of the 

things which are in this bill nor with the structuring of it, there 

is so much in it with which 1 do agree that I must honestly 

disagree with Mr. Mullen's position on whether or not to 

adopt or reject this committee of conference report, and, 

therefore, 1 support the gentleman, Mr. McClatchy's recom- 

mendation that the committee of conference report be 

adopted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 



Mr. MULLEN. Mr. Speaker, I will be very brief. We 

waited for 3 years to get an opportunity to do something 

about this. If we do not do it tonight, we are talking about 

more than money; we are talking about lives, and that is the 

important thing you have to remember. 

Now, Mrs. Harper raised the question of the family plan- 

ning clinics, that she does not know any of them that perform 

any abortions. That may very well be true, but you see what 

happens, Mrs. Harper, is when they go to the family clinic, 

they are then referred to the Planned Parenthood abortion 

clinics- 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman yield? 

The gentleman is reminded of the rules of the House that 

require that the Chair be addressed and not another member. 

Mr. MULLEN. If you Look at the memorandum, or if the 

members of the House or the Chair looks at the memo- 

randum, they will see that under Title X of the Federal 

funding, Title X provides for the salaries of the clinical 

personnel, provides for the rent on the unit, provides for 

office equipment, provides for utilities, furnishings, et cetera. 

This means that the Planned Parenthood clinic-and they are 

the ones who perform most of the abortions-or any other 

abortion clinics that may receive the funds, what they are 

doing in fact is getting money to fund their programs in the 

abortion field as well as in the family planning area. I think it 

is awfully important that we take a stand tonight to defend 

human life, because if we only save one life, we are saving that 

life. This is more important than all the money in the world. 

Now, my colleague, Mr. Irvis, pointed out that this is the 

last day of the fiscal period. That is true, but it is inconceiv- 

able to me that if we reject this report, that Mr. McClatchy 

and his committee cannot come back tomorrow with the 

report with this item deleted, and 1 do not think many people 

have any quarrel with that. It is as simple as that, and we are 

talking about saving human lives. We may not get the chance 

again. It took us 3 years to get this chance. This may be the 

last chance for the current session that we are now serving, so 

I ask you again to reject the report. 


Will the House adopt the Report of the Committee of 

Conference? 


VOTE STRICKEN 

The SPEAKER. The clerk will strike the vote.


CONFERENCE COMMITTEE 

REPORT RECOMMITTED 


Mr. HAYES. Mr. Speaker, we must continue to forge 

ahead and complete this final part of the budget for fiscal year 

1981-82. The House has made a decision with regard to one 

portion of the conference report on HB 1290, and it is my 

suggestion that we now send HB 1290 back to conference to 

see if these differences can be reconciled. 


Mr. IRVIS. Mr. Speaker, I concur with the majority leader. 

I see no further purpose in arguing on this floor. 1 think the 

battle has been lost, and I think we ought to send this back 

now to the committee of conference to see if we can resolve 

the differences. 

The SPEAKER. Without objection, the conference 

committee report is recommitted to the committee on confer- 

ence. The Chair hears none. 

QUESTION OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE 


Philadelphia, Mr. White. For what purpose does the 


Mr. Mr. 'peaker, rise a point Of personal 

privilege. 


personal privilege. 

Mr. WHITE. Mr. Speaker, 1 understand quite clearly the 

parliamentary procedures involved and the political decisions 

made by the leadership of both the Democratic and the 

Republican sides of the aisle, but I would like to say on behalf 

of the constituents, at least of the 2OOth legislative district, 

they did not send me here on a one-issue vote. They sent me 

here to represent their best interests in all matters concerned, 

and I deeply resent the fact that a handful of legislators would 

hold up the entire works for much-needed programs in this 

Commonwealth on one single issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 




Mr. RITTER. A parliamentary inquiry. Mr. Speaker, when 

you asked about recommitting or sending that bill back to 

committee, there were someof us who were trying to get your 

attention to object, because I remember you said, without 

objection. Now, Mr. Speaker, I do object to sending that bill 

back without a vote, and I do not know what 1 can do about 

it. My parliamentary inquiry is, in what way can I see that a 

vote is recorded to send that bill back to conference 

committee, because I do not like what was done, and I did try 

to object, and I could not get that guy up there again to turn 

on this microphone. 


Mr. IRVIS. Mr. Speaker, let me make it very plain to those 

who did not understand what we have tried to do. This is a 

- 

highly loaded, emotional issue. No matter whether you vote it 

red or green, your vote out there could open you to harassment 

all during the summer session. What we have tried to do 

is to avoid that, and that is the reason the two leaders agreed 

on the voice vote. ~t is not to try and overrule this House, but 

feel that it is safer and wiser in such a loaded, emotional 

issue that you have no recorded vote on this issue at this point 

in time. 

M,, RITTER. Mr. Speaker, that may very well be, but 

there were some of us who voted to send that bill to conference 

committee, even though we were satisfied with what was 

in it, but we did it at the request of the leadership, and we 

,ere recorded that way as sending the bill to conference 

committee when some of us did not want to do it, and now I 

asking how we can be recorded as not sending it back to a 

conference committee but rather that we want to accept the 

report. can I do that, Mr. Speaker? 

~ h , SPEAKER. ~h~ remarks of the gentleman will be 

spread upon the record. His feelings are now a part of the 

record. 

Mr. RITTER. Mr. Speaker, my parliamentary inquiry is in 

what way can we object to sending a bill back to a conference 

committee without a recorded vote? 

~ h SPEAKER. , ~h~ decision has been made by the Chair. 

The conference committee report has been returned to the 

conferees. The remarks of the gentleman are spread upon the 

record. 

~ M~. .~. ---- RTTTER. ~ Mr. -~ Soeaker. - - ~ mav , ~ I file ~ a reconsideration ~ . 

motion? 

1 am sorry, Mr. Speaker. 1 did not start this, but doggone it, 

I am getting tired of having things rammed down my throat. 

Now, can 1 file a reconsideration motion or can I not? 

The SPEAKER. It is the opinion of the Chair that a motion 

to .- recommit ............ cannot he .. reconsidered. The gentleman has the 

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option to attempt to discharge the conference committee. 

CALENDAR CONTINUED 

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An Act amending the act of May 2, I945 (P. L. 382, No. 164), 

entitled "Municipality Authorities Act of 1945," further defining 

"project" and further providing for general purposes. 


Will the House agree to the hill on third consideration? 

Mr. McVERRY offered the following amendments No. 

A2823: 

Amend Title, page 1, line 14, by inserting after "project" 

; further providing for investment of 

Authority moneys 


Section 3. The act is amended by adding a section to read: 

Srztiun 7.1. ln\e\lmmt of Authority Funds.-A. Thc 

board shall hake the pouer to: 

@) .. make in\estment of Authority sinking funds in the 

manner pro\ided for local government unitr by the an of July 12, 

1972 (P.L.7XI. No 18% known a\ the_l'l.ocal (iovernment Unit

1342 LEGISLATIVE JOURNAL-HOUSE JUNE 30. 

(b) make investment of moneys in the general fund and in 

special funds of the Authority other than the sinking funds as 

authorized by this section; and 

(c) liquidate any such investment, in whole or in part, by 

disposing of securities or withdrawing funds on deposit. Any 

action taken to make or to liquidate any investment shall be made 

by the officers designated by action of the board. 

B. The board shall invest Authority funds consistent with 

sound business practice. 

C. The board shall provide for an investment program 

subject to restrictions contained in this act and in any other appli- 

cable statute and any rules and regulations adopted by the board. 

D. Authorized types of investments for Authority funds 

a 

(a) United States Treasury bills. 

(b) Short-term obligations of the United States Government 

or its agencies or instrumentalities. 

(c) Deposits in savings accounts or time deposits or share 

accounts of institutions insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance 

Corporation or the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corpo- 

ration or the National Credit Union Share Insurance Fund to the 

extent that such accounts are so insured, and, for any amounts 

above the insured maximum, provided that approved collateral as 

provided by law therefore shall be pledged by the depository. 

(d) Obligations of the United States of America or any of its 

agencies or instrumentalities backed by the full faith and credit of 

the United States of America, the Commonwealth of Penn- 

sylvania or any of its agencies or instrumentalities backed by the 

full faith and credit of the Commonwealth, or of any political 

subdivision of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania or any of its 

agencies or instrumentalities backed by the full faith and credit of 

the political subdivision. 

(e) Shares of an investment company registered under the 

Investment Company Act of 1940, whose shares are registered 

under the Securities Act of 1933, provided that the only invest- 

ments of that company are in the authorized investments for 

Authority funds listed in clauses (a) through (d). 

E. In making investments of Authority funds, the board 

shall have authority: 

(a) To permit assets pledged as collateral under subsection 

D.(c), to he pooled in accordance with the act of August 6, 1971 

(P.L.281, No.72), entitled "An act standardizing the procedures 

for pledges of assets to secure deposits of public funds with 

banking institutions pursuant to other laws; establishing a stan- 

dard rule for the types, amounts and valuations of assets eligible 

to be used as collateral for deposits of public funds; permitting 

assets to be pledged against deposits on a pooled basis; and 

authorizing the appointment of custodians to act as pledgees of 

assets." 

(b) To 'Ombine more lhan One fund under 

Authority control for the purchase of a single investment, 

provided that lack of the funds combined for the purpose shall be 

accounted for separately in all respects and that earnings from the 

investment are separately and individually computed and 

recorded, and credited to the accounts from which the investment 

was ?led. . 

1) o Joln wlth one or more other olitical subdivisions and 

municipal authorities in accordance withPthe act of July 12, 1972 

P.L.762, No.180), referred to as the Intergovernmental Cooper- 

!tion Law. in the purchase of a single investmmt, provided that 

the requirements of clause (b) on separate accounting of indi- 

vidual funds and separate computation, recording and crediting 

of the earnings therefrom are followed. 

Section 4. Section 8 of the act, amended July 16, 1975 

(P.L.56, hlo.34), is amended to read: 

Section 8. Moneys of the Authority.-A. All moneys of 

any Authority, from whatever source derived, shall be paid to the 

treasurer of the Authority. [Said moneys shall be deposited in the 

first instance by the treasurer in one or more banks or bank and 

trust companies in one or more special accounts or under savings 

contracts in savings associations in one or more special accounts, 

and each of such special accounts to the extent the same is not 

insured shall be continuously secured by a pledge of direct ohliga- 

tions of the United States of America, of the Commonwealth or 

of the municipality or municipalities creating the Authority, 

having an aggregate market value, exclusive of accrued interest, 

at all times at least equal to the balance on deposit in such 

account. Such securities shall either be deposited with the trea- 

surer, or be held by a trustee or agent satisfactory to the 

Authority. All banks, bank and trust companies and savings 

associations are authorized to give such security for such 

deposits. The moneys in said accounts shall be paid out on the 

warrant or other order of the chairman of the Authority, or of 

such other person or persons as the Authority may authorize to 

execute such warrants or orders.] 

B. Every Authority whose fiscal year ends December 31, 

sharfile on or before July I an annual report of its fiscal affairs 

covering the preceding calendar year with the Department of 

Community Affairs and with the municipality or municipalities 

creating the Authority on forms prepared and distributed by the 

Department of Community Affairs; Authorities whose fiscal year 

does not end on December 31, shall file the report within ninety 

days after the end of their fiscal year. Every Authority shall have 

its books, accounts and records audited, annually, by a certified 

public accountant, and a copy of his audit report shall k filed in 

the same manner and within the same time period as the aforesaid 

annual report. A concise financial statement shall be published 

annually, at least once in a newspaper of general circulation in the 

municipality where the principal office of the Authority is 

located. If such publication is not made by the Authority, the 

municipality or municipalities shall publish such statement at the 

expense of the Authority. If the Authority fails to make such an 

audit, then the controller, auditors or accountant designated by 

the municipality or municipalities, are hereby authorized and 

empowered from time to time to examine at the expense of the 

Authority the accounts and books of the Authority, including its 

receipts, disbursements, contracts, leases, sinking funds, invest- 

ments, and any other matters relating to its finances, operation 

and affairs. 

C. The Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Penn- 

sylvania shall have the right to examine the books, accounts and 

recordsof any Authority. 


inserting 

5. 




Allegheny, Mr. McVerry. 



Allegheny, Itkin. 

Mr. ITKIN. Mr. Speaker, a point of parliamentary inquiry. 

The SPEAKER The gentleman will state his pint of 


Mr. ITKIN. Did we or did we not vote on the conferen= 

report on HB 1290? 

The SPEAKER. We are Presently on SB 797. PN 973, Mr. 

Itkin. 

The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Allegheny, Mr. 

McVerry,


Mr. ITKIN. That was not the answer to my question, Mr. 

Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman will yield. 

The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Allegheny, Mr. 

McVerry, on the amendment. 

Mr. McVERRY. Mr. Speaker, amendment A2823 is an 

amendment which would bring the investment powers of 

municipal authorities into conformity with the investment 

powers of local governments under the Local Government 

Unit Debt Act, and into conformity with powers that we have 

recently granted to school hoards in a vote just 2 weeks ago. It 

brings uniform investment powers to all municipal authorities 

in accordance with local governments. 




YEAS- 186 

Anderson Fischer Livengood Rybak 

Armstrong Reck Lloyd Salvatore 

Any Foster, W. W. Lucyk Saurman 

Barber Foster, Jr., A. McCall Serafini 

Belardi Frazier McClatchy Seventy 

Belfanti 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colaiella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Cornell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Fee 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Cannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

Gruppo 

Hagany 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hwffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 

Hutchinson, 

Hutchinson, 

lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukavich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Mclntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackawski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micorrie 

Miller 

Mircevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mowery 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

P0tt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rasca 

Reber 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

NAYS-0 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith. 8. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitr 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vroon 

Wambach 

Wargo 

Wass 

Wenger 

Weston 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R 

Wright. 1. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

NOT VOTING-11 

Alden Evans Rappapon White 

Beloff Gray Richardson Williams, J. D. 

Bersan Mrkanic Wachob 

EXCUSED-4 

npll Georce Heiser Olasr 

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amended? 

Mr. WILSON offered the following amendments No. 

Amend Title, page 1, line 14, by inserting after "rates,"" 

further providing for acquisition of 

existine - facilities. orovidinp, - for the 

composition of the hoard of certain Authorities, 

Amend Bill, page 5, line 8, by striking out all of said line and 

inserting 


subsection to read: 

Section 9. Transfer of Existing Facilities to Authority.- 

* * 

Section 4. This act shall take effect immediately and shall be 

retroactive and apply to all rates and services furnished on and 

after Janualy I, 1980. 





Mr. WILSON. Mr. Speaker, if I could have the attention of 

the House just briefly to explain this amendment to them. I 

know the hour is late, and I am hungry, too.


Mr. Speaker, I will explain my amendment and a current 

situation that needs correcting immediately. What we have is 

a situation where a municipal authority formed within one 

municipality acquires a private facility outside its boundary 

line. The problem we have is that there is no recourse for any 

ratemaking, any acquisition, or anything. All I am asking 

here is that the authority-and there is good reason in many 

cases for an authority to acquire another facility-all they 

have to do is notify the users, notify the municipality in which 

the other facility is located, and put a person on their board 

after the acquisition has taken place, one member. That is all 

it says here in this amendment. I would appreciate your 

support. 

The SPEAKER. On the question of the adoption of the 

amendments, the Chair recognizes the gentleman from 

Venango, Mr. Levi. 

Mr. LEVI. Mr. Speaker, I have to oppose this amendment. 

The first part of it, notifying and a public hearing, I think is 

quite right and proper. But 1 do not see why when an 

authority goes out and purchases another utility and goes 

through the public hearing process and everything, why they 

have to put somebody on the board. 1 think when you have 

your own operation and you purchase one that is in financial 

difficulty or for some other reason needs to sell, why do you 

have to take someone out of that outfit and put them on your 

board? I think it is well that you have a public hearing and 

public notice. I think that would be fine, but taking somebody 

from that area and putting them on your board and diluting 

the board of real efficient authority, I think, is wrong, and I 

would recommend we defeat this amendment. 


Delaware, Mrs. Durham. 

Mrs. DURHAM. Mr. Speaker, will Mr. Levi stand for 

interrogation? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman, Mr. Levi, agrees to stand 

for interrogation. The lady may proceed. 

Mrs. DURHAM. Mr. Speaker, could you summarize why 

you are opposed to Mr. Wilson's amendment? 

Mr. LEVI. Mr. Speaker, my objection to this amendment is 

the last part of the amendment that requires the governing 

body of the old company or utility by placing somebody on 

the board of the company that is purchasing the old one. This 

dilutes the authority that is efficient in the running of a good 

operation by taking somebody in from the authority that for 

some reason got into difficulty and has to be absorbed. I just 

thing we are diluting it from people who are not running a 

good operation, and it is not in the best interest of all authori- 

ties. 

Mrs. DURHAM. Mr. Speaker, you do oppose this amend- 

ment. Is that correct? 

Mr. LEVI. Yes. It is not divisible, so, yes, I oppose the 

amendment. 

Mrs. DURHAM. Thank you. 


Allegheny, Mr. McVerry. 

Mr. McVERRY. Mr. Speaker, by law the governing body 

of a municipal authority are board members. Those board 

members are appointed to that position by the municipality 

that created the authority, who have the ultimate responsi- 

bility for the existence of that authority. There is no reason- 

able reason or logical reason that I can see as to why that 

municipal authority, who is ultimately responsible to the 

municipality that created it, should be required to take onto 

its board a member of a facility that is being acquired by the 

authority who has the ultimate responsibility to see to the 

appropriate management of the authority. I urge a negative 

vote on the amendment, and I see no reasonable reason for it 

to be adopted. Thank you. 


Berks, Mr. Fryer. On the amendment, Mr. Fryer? 

Mr. FRYER. On the amendment. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman is recognized. 

Mr. FRYER. Mr. Speaker, I would urge a "no" voteon the 

amendment. 

The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Somerset, Mr. 

Lloyd, wish to be recognized on the amendment? 

Mr. LLOYD. Yes, Mr. Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman may proceed. 

Mr. LLOYD. Would the gentleman, Mr. Wilson, stand for 

brief interrogation? 


gentleman, Mr. Lloyd, may proceed. 

Mr. LLOYD. Mr. Speaker, I want to understand exactly 

how this is going to work. If the municipal authority buys 

facilities outside the boundaries of the municipal authority, it 

then would have to place a former user or someone who is a 

user of those facilities outside the municipal authority on the 

authority board. Is that correct, Mr. Speaker? 

Mr. WILSON. No. If an acquiring authority goes outside 

the municipality that formed that authority to acquire another 

facility, it would have to agree to accept one person from that 

municipality as a vote on that authority so that it could handle 

condemnation, ratemaking, and all those things that that 

board would do and let its municipality know what is going 

on. 

Mr. LLOYD. Mr. Speaker, would it matter whether the 

number of users outside the municipal authority boundary 

was 10 or 1,000? There would still be one member appointed. 

Is that correct, Mr. Speaker? 

Mr. WILSON. That is correct; only one. They could 

acquire five different facilities in the municipality, but only 

one person would be named as a voting member and a repre- 

sentative of that municipality to report back to the munici- 

pality what is going on. 

Mr. LLOYD. So then, Mr. Speaker, if a municipal 

authority serves 5,000 people and wants to acquire some sewer 

lines or water lines which had been put there years ago which 

would serve 10 families outside the municipal authority, then 

the municipality outside the boundaries of the municipal 

authority would be entitled to one member on the municipal 

authority. Is that correct? 

Mr. WILSON. In the municipality where they have 

acquired any facilities, they would put one person on whether 

they were 10,000, 10 million people, or what. You know,


when they are taxing you and condemning and doing things 

like that, you should have some kind of representation. That 

is all this suggests; one person. 

Mr. LLOYD. Mr. Speaker, that would be without regard to 

the principle of one man, one vote? 

Mr. WILSON. No, not necessarily one man, one vote. It 

would he one municipality, one vote. 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman yield? 

The gentlemen are reminded that their remarks should be 

addressed to the Chair. 

Mr. WILSON. Yes, Mr. Speaker. 

It would be one municipality, one vote. For all the acquisi- 

tion in that municipality, it would be one vote. 

Mr. LLOYD. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Beaver, Mr. 

Kolter, care to be recognized on the amendment? The 


Mr. KOLTER. Mr. Speaker, I would urge acceptance of 

the Wilson amendment. Many times the authorities have 

acted at the expense of the taxpayer. What this amendment 

would do is offer more protection to the taxpayer. 1 would 

certainly urge a "yes" vote. 


York, Mr. Foster. 


I must ask for a negative vote on this amendment. I am 

sympathetic to Mr. Wilson's problem. We have been trying to 

resolve it for quite a while in committee, but if we incorporate 

it into this bill, there is no way we are going to get concurrence 

before we get out of here. The bill is one that we have made a 

priority getting reported to the floor. It is needed, and if we 

put this amendment in it, it is going to kill the hill. I 

-. 

those things without the say-so of the user, where the only 

alternate recourse for the user is to go to common pleas court, 

hire an expert witness, hire an attorney, spend $10,000 or 

greater to fight a ratemaking case for water or sewer, I think 

that is the wrong thing to do. I think what we need to do is 

provide some kind of a vote for the people, for the users of 

those facilities. That is all we are asking here. 

We have a case where the authority advertises in a news- 

paper that is 30 miles away from the users. I do not think that 

is fair and 1 do not think that is the way we want to run this 

country. We want to give the user, the voter, a say-so. That is 

all we are asking. 




ArfY 

Belardi 

Belfanti 

Bittle 

Bawser 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Ceasar 

Civera 

Clark 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Cordisco 

Carnell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

Duffy 

Gallagher 

Geist 

Crabowski 

Greenwood 

Gruppo 

Hagany 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hutchinson, 

ltkin 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kukovich 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Letterman 

Micozrie 

Miscevich 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

W. Phillips 

Piccola 

Pistella 

Pitts 

Punt 

Rasco 

Reber 

Ritter 

Salvatore 

Serafini 

Sirianni 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Stairs 

Stewan 

Sweet 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor. F. E. 

Telek 

Wambach 

wargo 

wass 

William. H. 

Wilson 

Wozniak 

Wright. I. L. 

Zwikl 

reluctantly ask for a negative vote on the amendment. Fischer Livengood Shupnik S&fl 

Freind Manderino Sieminski 


York. ~. Mr. Dorr. 

~ ~ - ~ - 

NAYS-I 10 

Mr. DORR. Mr. Speaker, one brief question of the Anderson Evans McCall Rocks 

gentleman from Bucks, if he will. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman consents to interrogation. 

The gentleman, Mr. Dorr, may proceed. 

Mr. DORR. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman indicate 

whether it is his intent that industrial development authorities 

Armstrong 

Barber 

~,l,ff 

Berson 

Blaum 

Barski 

Boyes 

Fee 

Fleck 

- Foster. ~~ W. W. 


Frazier 

Fryer 

Callen 

McClatchy 

Mclntyre 

McMonade " 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Rybak 

Saunnan 

Seventv 

Showers 

Smith. B. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

would be included within the purview of the amendment? 

Mr. WILSON. No. 

Mr. DORR. They are not designed to be included? 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Cawley 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Gladeck 

Greenfield 

Manmiller 

Marmion 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Spiu 

Steighncr 

Stevens 

Stuban 

Mr. WILSON. No. We are talking of water and sewer facil- Cimini Grieco Miller 

Swaim 

ities particularly. 

Mr. DORR. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Clyrner 

Colafella 

Cole 

Gruitra 

Haluska 

Hoeffel 

Maehlmann 

Morris 

Mowcry 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Tisue 



Mr. WILSON. Mr. Speaker, you know, we heard the pitch 

DeMedio 

DeVerter 

DeWecse 

Daikeler 

Honaman 

Horgos 

his 

Jackson 

Mrkonic 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Trello 

Van Home 

vroon 

Wachob 

against this amendment simply because of priorities. I think Davies Kennedy Petrone Wengcr 

everybody has a priority, but I think to kill something that is 

good and needed is the wrong thing to do at this hour, this 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Kowalyshyn 

Lehr 

Lescovitz 

Pievsky 

Pott 

Pratt 

Weston 

White 

Wig+ 

time of the year. What we are talking about is if somebody is Dombrowski Levi Pucciarelli Williams. I. D 

going to condemn some property or have the right to make 

condemnation, if somebody is going to have the right to set 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Durham 

Levin 

Lloyd 

Lucyk 

Richardson 

Ricger 

Wogan 

Wright, D. R. 

rates-taxation, if you would-if somebody is going to do 

Ryan,


NOT VOTING-6 \ NAYS-I 

Alden Gray Lewis Rappapon 

Emerson Hutchinson, A. 

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amended? 







Anderson 

Armstrong 

Arty 

Barber 

Belardi 

Belfanti 


Berson 

Bittle 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Brandt 

Brown 

Burd 

Bum 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clark 

Clymer 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Colafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Comell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

Cunningham 

DeMedio 

DeVener 

DeWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fischer 

Fleck 

Foster, W. W. 

Foster. Jr.. A. 

Frazier 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannon 

Geist 

Gladeck 

Grabowski 

Greenfield 

Greenwood 

Grieco 

Gruitza 

G~UPP~ 

Hagarty 

Haluska 

Harper 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Hoeffel 

Honaman 

Horgos 



lrvis 

ltkin 

Jackson 

Johnson 

Kanuck 

Kennedy 

Klingaman 

Kolter 

Kowalyshyn 

Kukaviih 

Lashinger 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Leseovitz 

Letterman 

Levi 

Levin 

Lewis 

Livengood 

Lloyd 

YEAS-194 

Lueyk 

McCall 

MeClavhy 

Melntyre 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackawski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Marmian 

Merry 

Michlovic 

Micozzie 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Mawery 

Mrkonic 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Nahill 

Noye 

O'Donnell 

Oliver 

Pendleton 

Perzel 

Peterson 

Petrarca 

Petrone 

Phillips 

Piccola 

Pievsky 

Pistella 

Pitts 

POtt 

Pratt 

Pucciarelli 

Punt 

Rappapon 

Rasco 

Reber 

Richardson 

Rieger 

Ritter 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Showers 

Shupnik 

Sieminski 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith. L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Steighner 

Stevens 

Stewan 

Stuban 

Swaim 

Sweet 

Swift 

Taddonio 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Telek 

Tigue 

Trello 

Van Horne 

Vraon 

Wachob 

Wambach 

War go 

Wass 

Wenger 

Westan 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 

Williams. J. D. 

Wilson 

Wogan 

Wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Zwikl 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Boyes 

Alden Gray 

NOT VOTING-2 

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the affirmative, the question was determined in the a ffia- 

tive. 




requested. 



Philadelphia, Mr. Wogan. For what purpose does the 


Mr. WOGAN. Mr. Speaker, on SB 633 I was erroneously 

recorded in the negative when it was my desire to vote in the 

affirmative. 



CONSIDERATION OF SB 277 RESUMED 

BILL REMOVED FROM TABLE 

The SPEAKER. The Chair removes from the table SB 277. 

PN 1089. 



amended? 

Mr. RICHARDSON offered the following amendments 

No. A2988: 

Amend Title, page 1, line 18, by striking out "and" and 

inserting a comma 

Amend Title, page 1, line 19, by removing the period after 

"LICENSEES" and inserting 

and appropriating funds to the Department of Health for 

the study of problems and promotion of programs 

relating to alcoholism and the rehabilitation and treat- 

ment of alcoholics. 


Section 4. Section 802 of the act, amended September 28. 

1961 (P.L.1728, No.702), is amended to read: 

Section 802. Moneys Paid Into The State Stores Fund for 

Use of the Commonwealth.-(aJ All moneys, except fees to be 

paid into the Liquor License Fund as provided by the preceding 

section, collected, received or recovered under the provisions of 

this act for license fees, permit fees, filing fees and registration 

fees, from forfeitures, sales of forfeited property, compromise 

penalties and sales of liquor and alcohol at the Pennsylvania 

Liquor Stores, shall be paid into the State Treasury through the 

Department of Revenue into a special fund to he known as "The 

State Stores Fund." 

pJ One-half of all application. filing and transfer fees sh'all 

be credited to a special account designated as the Enforcement 

Officers' ~etirement Account. he moneys credited to this


account shall be paid, annually, by the board to the State 

[Employes'] Employees' Retirement Board to be paid into the 

State [Employes'] Employees' Retirement Fund and credited to 

the Enforcement Officers' Benefit Account. 

) Two per centurn (11 the net rcrenue of the Penn.yl\an~a 

liquor Control Board as shoun on the operating statrrnsnt in its 

annual report 15 hercb) appropriared to the DepartmQ 

Health for rhe Counc~l on Drupand Alcohol Ahuse ro he urcd fa>r 

...-. r - 

(1) 

study of the problem of alcoholism; 

(2) treatment and rehabilitation of persons addicted to the 

excessive use of alcoholic beverages; and 

(3) promotion of preventive and educational programs 

designed to eliminate alcoholism. 

(d) All other moneys in such fund shall be available for the 

pur$ses for which they are appropriated by law. 


inserting 

5. 





Philadelphia, Mr. Richardson. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, I would like to know if 

1 am in order to make a motion. 

The SPEAKER. The question before the House is the 

gentleman's amendment to SB 277. The gentleman has been 

recognized for the purpose of debating his amendment to that 

particular bill. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Point of parliamentary inquiry, Mr. 

Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman may state his point of 


Mr. RICHARDSON. I would like to know if I am in order, 

Mr. Speaker, to make a motion, since 1 am recognized and I 

have the floor. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman was recognized for a spec- 

ific purpose, and that was to debate his amendment. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, prior to being recog- 

nized on amendment A2988, I asked to be recognized. you 

asked me to yield. I did that, but I asked to be recognized 

prior to that. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair recognized the gentleman in 

connection with the gentleman's amendment, no one else's 

amendment, to SB 277. If the gentleman does not care to 

debate his amendment to SB 277, the Chair will be happy to 

recognize someone else. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. No. What I am asking, Mr. Speaker, 

is whether or not I can be recognized for a motion. That is all. 

The SPEAKER. No. You have not been recognized for that 

purpose. You have been recognized in connection with your 

own amendment. If the gentleman does not care to debate his 

own amendment, the Chair will recognize some other 

member. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. The amendment that 1 offer, Mr. 

Speaker- and I will do it this way, with anticipation of 

offering the amendment and then asking to be recognized 

after the vote on the amendment. 

The amendment that Representative Caltagirone and 

myself have introduced is an amendment to take 2 percent of 

the net revenue of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board, 

and we are asking that that money be applied under the new 

council which is under the Department of Health, the drug 

and alcohol abuse program-it is the Council on Drug and 

Alcohol Abuse that was formerly the Governor's drug and 

alcohol abuse program-using that money specifically to deal 

with the study of alcoholism, treatment and rehabilitation, a 

problem that has been centered very long within our community, 

particularly in the city of Philadelphia with the problem 

centering around drug and alcohol, but more specifically to 

the fact that if we are taking the moneys from the state stores 

and we are using it directly to deal with the problems as they 

affect those persons whom we are supposed to help, then why 

do we not turn it back around and take that same money-it 

boils down to about $3.5 million-that will be used specifically 

for treatment and drug rehabilitation and alcoholism. 


York, Mr. Lehr. 

Mr. LEHR. Mr. S~eaker. . I omose -. this amendment. There 

is a bill in the Liquor Control Committee that would deal with 

this problem. It would cost actually around $4 million, and I 

hope we can defeat this amendment. Thank you. 

The SPEAKER. On the question of the adoption of the 

amendment, Mr. White? 

Mr. WHITE. Yes, Mr. Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman is recognized. The 


Mr. WHITE. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the amendment 

for some very basic kinds of reasons. It has been demonstrated 

in statistical study after study that alcoholism in the 

Commonwealth, and in fact throughout this Nation, is on the 

increase. It has also been recognized through study after study 

that those agencies responsible for administering statewide 

programs, particularly here in Pennsylvania, now under the 

aegis of the Department of Health, have failed time and time 

again to develop meaningful educational counseling and rehabilitative 

programs for individuals who are caught up in that 

disease. I would hope that this General Assembly would take 

this opportunity tonight, as opposed to hoping and waiting on 

some action by the Liquor Control Committee to foster this 

same type of education and counseling for individuals who 

are caught up in the alcoholic cycle. 

If I could further amplify the point of being in support of 

this amendment. All of the proposals that we have presently 

seen out of the Federal Government would point to a drastic 

reduction in much-needed services to persons who are caught 

up in alcoholic diseases. We would hope that this Commonwealth 

would take advantage of an opportunity that we now 

have to say to the liquor industry here in Pennsylvania, here is 

an opportunity that the General Assembly is going to give you 

to meet the commitment that you have given to us in words in 

support of developing strong, meaningful, and viable educational 

counseling and rehabilitative programs for individuals 

who do in fact succumb to alcoholism.

1 would hope that the members of this House would under- 

stand that point and would then turn and support the 

Richardson amendment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


Delaware, Mrs. Arty. 

Mrs. ARTY. Mr. Speaker, I admire and respect the efforts 

of the gentleman in behalf of the illness of alcoholism and the 

people who suffer that illness. 

May I, sir, question the maker of the amendment? Will he 

stand for interrogation? 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman, Mr. Richardson, 

consent to interrogation? 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Yes. 

The SPEAKER. The lady may proceed. 

Mrs. ARTY. Mr. Speaker, the money that is expected to 

come as a result of this amendment, would it go into the 

General Fund? 

Mr. RICHARDSON. No. This money would specifically 

go to the Department of Health under the new drug council 

program that used to be the Governor's Council on Drug and 

Alcohol Abuse. 

Mrs. ARTY. Mr. Speaker, it would then go to the Depart- 

ment of Health but be appropriated from the General Fund 

and set aside for that purpose? 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Yes, Mr. Speaker. It would be 2 

percent of the net revenue of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control 

Board operating money that was gathered from its annual 

report, appropriated to the Department of Health for the 

Council on Drug and Alcohol Abuse to be used for the 

following things that 1 have already discussed. 

Mrs. ARTY. Mr. Speaker, may I remark, sir, that from the 

general appropriations fund of the Commonwealth, we are 

now dealing with $22 million a year that is being used for this 

purpose. Additionally, there are Federal funds coming into 

the program, and the total appropriation for drug and alcohol 

abuse, which includes studies, which includes treatment, 

which includes education, prevention, and intervention, is 

now to the tune of $33 million. 

One of the reasons that the Council on Drug and Alcohol 

Abuse is now in the Department of Health is to perhaps cut 

down on some of the administrative costs so that we can put 

more money into programs and, secondly, so that we can 

achieve some degree of accountability. 

May I suggest, sir, that we reject this amendment until we 

have some of the ducks in line in this program and in all of its 

agencies and single-county authorities in the Commonwealth. 

Again, I respect the gentleman's motivation but ask for a 

"no" vote on this amendment. 


Philadelphia, Mr. Richardson, on the Richardson amendment 

A2988. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. I would just like to inform the lady 

that perhaps she is not aware of the fact that that program has 

been in fact cut, and one of the purposes for instituting this 

particular 2-percent-net-revenue cost was specifically to go 

directly to the study of the prohlem of alcoholism because of 

the problem in the city of Philadelphia and other counties 


across this Commonwealth. We have a very tremendous, 

severe problem, particularly with the onslaught of all the 

cutting of the social service programs, the cutback in welfare. 

The problems dealing in the other areas that we have 

mentioned are going to bring a tremendous rise to that 

problem within this Commonwealth. The treatment and reha- 

bilitation of persons addicted to the excessive use of alcoholic 

beverages has not probably been geared toward the program- 

matic way that we feel that the program and the council 

should be following through on it, and you, being a nurse, 

understand the direct problems as they relate to those partic- 

ular problems, and I cannot understand why there is such 

opposition to promotion of prevention and education 

programs designed to eliminate these problems. While there 

are programs already geared in those directions, it seems to 

me that we have not earmarked specifically making sure that 

that money is going to be spent on that purpose. I am asking 

that 2 percent of that money specifically he spent on that so 

we do not lose the flavor and also the intent of what this 

particular amendment is supposed to do in SB 277. 


Lancaster, Mr. Miller, on the Richardson amendment. 

Mr. MILLER. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. Speaker, I rise in specific support of the Richardson 

amendment. Many times our activities in this House, just by 

the luck of the draw on the floor calendar, point to us inter- 

esting ironies. Just a few moments ago this House expressed a 

willingness to continue general debate, on the very subject of 

finishing this year's appropriations, on the single issue of 

human life. Tonight on Pennsylvania highways somewhere 

there is a drunk going to kill somebody. Now that is a darn 

shame. The man stands before you, the gentleman from 

Philadelphia, with an amendment that suggests we look 

squarely in the face the problem of alcoholism in this state 

and not carefully go back to our offices in another day and 

ignore the fact that we cut base allocations to counties across 

this Commonwealth for drug and alcohol prevention and 

abuse programs. He is not going to let us ignore that, and he 

gives us the most direct and responsible solution to the 

problem. 

Let me ask you a question. For those of you who have 

looked at the revenues generated by liquor sales in this state, 

what do you look at? How much did we make? The whole 

debate on the state store system centers on what is the 

exchange of dollars, not what is the exchange in human life. 

What is the exchange in human life? Do any of us know? Are 

any of us willing to ignore the principle the gentleman 

proposes that is so fundamental that says, just like we do in 

the crime victim's compensation program and having the 

criminals pay for part of the program and compensating 

victims, why not have the drinkers kick a little bit into the 

pot? Is that such an obnoxious principle that this General 

Assembly can turn its back on a very responsible amendment, 

when administratively we have already made the responsible 

change - we have put it in the Department of Health; we have 

restructured the program and put a fair funding policy to it 

despite the fact we have not fully funded it. Somewhere on


our highways tonight, a drunk is liable to commit a criminal 

act, and we ignore the fact that the very source of revenue 

could be our source of beginning to solve the problem. 

The Richardson amendment makes a lot of sense. We just 

might ought to consider it tonight. This member anxiously 

looks forward to voting for it, and I hope you do, too. Thank 

you, Mr. Speaker. 


Philadelphia, Mr. Cohen, on the amendment. 

Mr. COHEN. Mr. Speaker, this is an especially timely 

amendment because of the revamping of the liquor stores. 

Traditionally in Pennsylvania the liquor stores have been 

located as sparsely as possible; they have been run as inconve- 

niently as possible, under the theory of the long-late Governor 

Pinchot that the best way to discourage alcoholism was to 

make going into a state liquor store as undesirable an experi- 

ence as possible. We are changing that now. It is not going to 

be demeaning to go into a liquor store. It is increasingly 

possible to shop for oneself. The consumption of alcoholic 

beverages in the Commonwealth is going to increase, and as a 

result, there is going to be an increased danger of alcoholism. 

This amendment is a responsible amendment. 1 join with the 

others in urging support. 

The SPEAKER. On the question, the Chair recognizes the 

gentleman from York, Mr. Lehr. 

Mr. LEHR. I will yield to Mr. Richardson. 


Richardson. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. I want to be recognized last to speak, 

Mr. Speaker. 


York, Mr. Lehr. 

Mr. LEHR. I again ask for a "no" vote on this amend- 

ment. 


Richardson. on the Richardson amendment. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, after the vote I have a 

brief comment to make relevant to this particular issue only. 

The SPEAKER. If the gentleman has a comment on this 

issue, I would suggest that he make it now. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, in an attempt not to 

have any swaying of this vote on this particular issue, I am 

asking that I just be recognized for a brief 30 seconds after 

this vote only on the question dealing with SB 277 and this 

issue. 




YEAS-118 

Armstrong Fee McCall Ritter 

Barber Fischer Mclntyre Rocks 

Belfanti Fleck McMonagle Rybak 

Beloff Frazier Madigan Seventy 

Berson Fryer Maiale Showers 

Bittle Gallagher Michlovic Shupnik 

Blaum Gamble Miller Sieminski 

Borski Grabowski Miscevich Spitz 

Brandt Greenfield Morris Steighner 

Brown Greenwaod Mrkonic Stewan 

Bums Gruitza Mullen Stuban 

Caltagirone Gruppa Murphy Swaim 

Cappabianca Haluska O'Donnell Sweet 

Cawley Harper Oliver Taylor, E. Z. 

Clark Hasay Pendleton Telek 

Cochran Hoeffel Petrarca Tigue 

Cohen Horgos Petrone TreUo 

Colafella Hutchinson. A. Phillips Van Home 

Cole ltkin Piccola Wachob 

Cardisco 

Cawell 

DeMedio 

DeWeese 

Dawida 

Dombrawski 

Donatucci 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Anderson 

Arfy 

Belardi 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Burd 

Cessar 

Cimini 

Civera 

Clymer 

Cornell 

Caslett 

Cunningham 

DeVener 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dietz 

Dininni 

Dorr 

Alden 

Gray 

Kolter Pievsky 

Kowalyshyn Pistella 

Kukovich Pot1 



Lescovitz Put 

Letterman Rappapon 

Levin Rasco 

Livenmad Richardson 

~ ~ a y d Rieger 

Lucyk 

NAYS-72 


Foster, Jr., A. McVerry 



Cannon Marmion 

Geist Memi 

Gladeck Moehlmann 

Grieco Mowery 

Hagany Nahill 

Hayes Noye 

Honaman P~rzel 


Jackson Pitts 

Johnson Reber 

Kanuck Salvatore 

Kennedy Saurman 

Klingarnan Scrafini 

Lehr Sirianni 

Levi 

NOT VOTING-7 

Lrvis Manderino 

Lewis Micozzie 

EXCUSED-4 

Wambach 

wargo 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


wogan 

wozniak 

Wright, D. R. 

Zwikl 

Smith, B. 

Smith, E. H. 

Smith, L. E. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Stairs 

Stevens 

Swi A 

Taylor, F. E. 

vroon 

Was 

Wenger 

Weston 

Wilson 

Wright, J. L. 

Deal 

Georne Heiser 





amended? 





The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Chester, Mr. 

Vroon. 

Mr. VROON. Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose this bill. 1 

believe it is another step in the direction of liberalizing our 

liquor control laws. I am very much disturbed by the fact that 

this bill removes entirely the quotas on golf club licenses. I do 

not think that is to our best interest. A golf club can be a very 

poor golf club and can be losing money and can go out of 

business. Under this bill all they have to do is go into the 

liquor business and they have it made. I am very much 

opposed to this, and I would strongly urge a "no" vote on the 

bill.



Allegheny, Mr. Fleck. 

Mr. FLECK. Mr. Speaker, will Mr. Dorr submit to inter- 

- 

rogation? 

The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman, Mr. Dorr, consent to 

interrogation? The gentleman may proceed. 

Mr. FLECK. Mr. Speaker, is it my reading of this hill that 

privately owned public golf courses, and as amended, nine 

holes, 2,500 yards in length, will he entitled to a liquor license 

for the application to the state Liquor Control Board? 

Mr. DORR. That is correct, Mr. Speaker, if in fact they are 

such. 

Mr. FLECK. And they will be permitted to build or to 

utilize a building, a secondary building, of any size other than 

the licensed premises, so long as such secondary building is on 

the golf course premises. Is that correct? 

Mr. DORR. That is the way the hill reads. Yes, Mr. 

Speaker. 

Mr. FLECK. And for what purpose is this secondary 

building to be used? 

Mr. DORR. Mr. Speaker, it is the intent of the amendment 

which was placed in the bill that would allow that to happen 

that the secondary building he utilized for serving the people 

who are golfing at that golf course. 

Mr. FLECK. If I understand, it is the intent that that 

building be used only for the purposes of those people also 

patronizing the golf course and not for use as a public 

facility? 

Mr. DORR. Mr. Speaker, I think it clearly is the intent of 

the sponsors of that amendment not to create a situation in 

which the golf course owners can set up a restaurant to serve 

the general public or a dance hall to serve the general public or 

any other kind of facility. It is designed to allow the golf 

course owners the opportunity to serve the people who come 

to patronize the golf course, to serve them alcoholic beverages 

at such a secondary building such as a ninth-hole facility, that 

sort of thing. 

Mr. FLECK. So then the character of the secondary 

building is to be more liken to that of a 10th-hole snack shop. 

Is that correct? 

Mr. DORR. The 10th-hole snack shop, supplementary 

clubhouse, that sort of thing, Mr. Speaker. 

Mr. FLECK. Thank you very much. 




tution, the yeas and nays will now he taken. 

Anderson 

Barber 

Belardi 

&Ifanti 


Berson 

Blaum 

Borski 

Bowser 

Boyes 

Brown 

Burd 

Dorr 

Duffy 

Durham 

Emerson 

Evans 

Fee 

Fleck 

Frazier 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

Gannan 

YEAS-140 

Lewis 

McCall 

McClatchy 

McMonagle 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Manmiller 

Merry 

Miehlovic 

Micozzie 

Rocks 

Rybak 

Salvatore 

Saurman 

Serafini 

Seventy 

Shupnik 

Sirianni 

Smith, B. 

Snyder 

Spencer 

Stcighner 

Burns Gladeck Misccvich Stevens 

Caltagirone Grabowski Monis Stewart 

Cappabianca Greenwood Mullen Stuban 

Cawley Grieco Murphy Swaim 

Cessar Gruitza Nahill Sweet 

Civera 

Clark 

Cochran 

Cohen 

Calafella 

Cole 

Cordisco 

Carnell 

Coslett 

Cowell 

DeMedio 

DcWeese 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Dawida 

Dininni 

Dombrowski 

Donatucci 

Hagarty Noye 

Haluska O'Donnell 

Harper Oliver 

Hasay Pendleton 


Horgos Petrarca 

Hutchinson, A. Petrone 

lrvis Piccola 

Itkin Pievsky 


Kennedy Pott 

Kolter Pratt 


Kukovich Punt 


Lehr Reber 


Levin Ritter 

NAYS-52 

Armstrong Gray Mclntyre 

Arty Gruppo Madigan 

Bittle Hayes Marmion 

Brandt Honaman Miller 

Cimini Hutchinson. W. Mochlmann 

Clymer Iackson Mowery 

Cunningham Johnson Mrkonic 

DeVerter Klingaman Peterson 

Dietz Laughlin Phillips 

Fiacher Lescovitz Pitts 

Foster, W. W. Levi Rieger 

Foster. Jr., A. Livengood Showers 

Fryer Lloyd Sieminski 

, Gcist Lucyk 

I 

NOT VOTING-5 

Taddonio 

Taylor. E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Tigue 

TreUo 

Van Home 

Wachob 

Wambach 

Weston 

White 

Wiggins 

Williams, H. 


Wilson 

Wogan 

Womiak 

Wright, I. L. 

Zwikl 

Smith, E. H. 

Spitz 

Stairs 

Swift 

Telek 

Vrwn 

Warga 

Wass 

Wcngcr 

Wright, D. R 

Ryan. 

S~carn 

Alden Greenfield Rappaport Smith, L. E. 

Freind 

EXCUSED-4 

I Deal George Heiser Olau 



tive. 




requested. 


HOUSE BILL 




same without amendment.


AMENDED HOUSE BILLS 

RETURNED FOR CONCURRENCE 


The clerk of the Senate, being introduced, returned HB 33, 

PN 2046; HB 229, PN 2027; and HB 243, PN 1989, with 

information that the Senate has passed the same with amend- 

ment in which the concurrence of the House of Re~resenta- 

tives is requested. 

The SPEAKER. The bills will appear on the calendar 

BILL SIGNED BY SPEAKER 


following hill, which was then signed: 

An Act amending the "Civil Service Act," approved August 5, 

1941 (P. L. 752, No. 286), adding positions in the Vocational 

Education Management Information Systems to the classified 

service in the Department of Education. 

BILL REREPORTED FROM COMMITTEE 

SB 168, PN 1131 (Amended) (Unanimous) 

By Rep. A. C. FOSTER 

An Act amending the act of March 10, 1949 (P. L. 30, No. 14), 

entitled "Public School Code of 1949," further providing for 

reopening of district budgets. 

LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 

SUPPLEMENTAL CALENDAR B 

BILL ON THIRD CONSIDERATION 



An Act amending the act of March 10, I949 (P. L. 30, No. 14), 










Mr. LEVIN. What is the bill? What is in the bill, Mr. 

Speaker? 

The SPEAKER. SB 168. 

Mr. LEVIN. Does it contain a prohibition on the residency 

requirement? 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman will yield. 

Mr. LEVIN. Well, then tell us about it. 

The SPEAKER. There is nothing in order but the taking of 

the roll and the announcing of the vote. 





YEAS-181 

Anderson Faster. W. W. McCall Seventy 

Armstrang Faster, Jr., A. McClatchy Showers 

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Belardi 

Belfanti 


Bittle 

Blaum 

Frarirr . 

Freind 

Fryer 

Gallagher 

Gallen 

Gamble 

McMonade 

McVerry 

Mackowski 

Madigan 

Maiale 

Manderino 

Shuanik 

Sieminrki 

Sirianni 

Smith, 8. 

Smith. E. H 

Smith. L. E. 

Bowser Gannon Manmiller Snyder 

Rover -. 

Geia Marmion Soencer 

Br&dt Gladeck Merry Spitz 

Brown Grabowski Michlovie Stairs 

Burd Greenwood Micouie Steighner 

Burns 

Caltagirone 

Cappabianca 

Cawley 

Grieco 

Gruitra 

Gruppo 

Hagarty 

Miller 

Miscevich 

Moehlmann 

Morris 

Stevens 

Stewart 

Stuban 

Sweet 

Ceaaar 

Haluska Mowery Swift 

Cimini 

Harmr 

Mrkonic Taddonio 

Civera 

Clark 

Hasay 

Hayes 

Mullen 

Murphy 

Taylor, E. Z. 

Taylor, F. E. 

Clymer Hoeffel Nahill 

Telek 

Cachran Honaman Noye 

Tigue 

Cohen 

Hargos O'Donnell TreUo 

Colafella Hutchinson. A. Oliver 

Van Home 

Cole 

Hutchinson, W. Pendleton Vroon 

Cordisco lrvis 

Perzel 

Wachob 

Corndl ltkin 

Peterson Wambach 

Coslett 

Jackson Petrarca Wargo 

Cowell 

Johnson Petrone Wass 

DeMedio Kanuck Phillips Wenger 

DeVener 

Daikeler 

Davies 

Kennedy 

Klinxaman - 

Kolter 

Piccola 

Picvskv 

pistella 

Watan 

White 

Wiggins 

Dawida 

Dietz 

Kowalyshrn 

Kukovich 

Pitts 

Pott 

Williams, H. 

Williams. 1. D. 

Dininni Lashinger Pratt 

Wilson 

Dombrowski 

Dorr 

Laughlin 

Lehr 

Punt 

Rasco 

Wonan 

Worniak 

Duffy 

Durham 

Lescovitz 

Letterman 

Reber 

Ritter 

W"gh1. D. R. 

Wright, J. L. 

Emerson Levi 

Rocks 

Zwikl 

Evans 

Levin 

Rybak 

Fee 

Fischer 

Lewis 

Livengoad 

Salvatore 

Sauman 

Ryan, 

Speaker 

Fleck 

Lucyk 

Serafini 

NAYS-2 

Cunningham Lloyd 

NOT VOTING-14 

Alden DeWeese Mclntyre Richardson 

Barber Donatucci Pueciarelli Rieger 

Berron Gray RappapoR Swaim 

Barski Greenfield 

EXCUSED-4 



the affirmative, the question was determined in the affmalive. 




requested.



Philadelphia, Mr. Levin. 

Mr. LEVIN. I have now had an opportunity to read the bill 

itself, and I realize that the residency requirement has been 

taken out of the bill. But I believe that should have been called 

to our attention before we voted, because it was on the supple- 

mental calendar printed that way. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair had announced that we were on 

supplemental calendar B. The Chair apologizes if the 

gentleman did not hear the Chair. 

POINT OF ORDER 


from Philadelphia, Mr. Richardson, rise? 

Mr. RICHARDSON. A point of order, Mr. Speaker, on 

the last vote, SB 168. 

The SPEAKER. What is the gentleman's point of order? 

Mr. RICHARDSON. The point of order, Mr. Speaker, is 

that we were just handed a supplemental calendar. They were 

still being passed out at the time that it reached our desks, and 

before we had an opportunity to see specifically what was in 

this bill, you asked for a roll-call vote. None of us had an 

opportunity. I would like to ask that we file a reconsideration 

motion so that we have an opportunity to vote on the bill. 


Mr. HAYES. Mr. Speaker, there is a school district in 

Pennsylvania whose board of school directors is going to be 

without life at midnight tonight, and it is necessary for them 

to take certain formal action. 

The Local Government Committee took everything out of 

SB 168, which is an amendment to the School Code, and 

placed into it a very narrow permission to allow that one 

school board in one of our school districts in Pennsylvania to 

take the necessary formal action that must be taken before 

midnight tonight, and it is important that we send it over to 

the Senate. 

There is nothing in it about residency. There is nothing in 

SB 168 as amended that deals with IU's - intermediate units - 

or anything else in the School Code of Pennsylvania. It does 

no more than I have just mentioned, and there is absolutely 

no need to file a reconsideration motion. 

Mr. RICHARDSON. Fine. All we need to know is that, 

because most of the time when things get ramrodded through 

this House, we have the opportunity and the response as 

members to know what is being done. If you had said that 

before the vote. we would not have had the oroblem. 

REMARKS ON VOTES 

For what purpose does the gentleman from Cambria, Mr. 

Haluska, rise? 

Mr. HALUSKA. I would like to have my vote recorded in 

the negative on SB 168, but I would like to interrogate Mr. 

Hayes, please. 



INTERROGATION 

The SPEAKER. The majority leader consents to inter- 

rogation. The gentleman, Mr. Haluska, may proceed. 

Mr. HALUSKA. Mr. Speaker, I have personally gone 

through five different jointures, and at all times when we went 

into the jointures, the assets and the liabilities of the respec- 

tive districts were taken into consideration, because the law 

demanded that we go in as a unit and share our liabilities as 

well as our assets. So why, therefore, should we give any one 

district in Pennsylvania a special privilege when other districts 

that have formed jointures over the years were compelled by 

law to share their assets and liabilities? And now we have a 

special provision here that is giving one district an opportu- 

nity to liquidate their assets and then to enjoy the assets of the 

other districts, perhaps, that may have capital improvements, 

and the taxpayers of those districts will never have an oppor- 

tunity to recoup their costs. 

Mr. HAYES. Was that a question, Mr. Speaker? 

Mr. HALUSKA. Yes. I asked why you take action like this 

when this has not been done previously. 

Mr. HAYES. I was not here when you had the problem, sir. 

Mr. HALUSKA. Well, I am sure you werearound. 

Mr. HAYES. I was a taxpayer back home. 


HOUSE BILLS 


~h, clerk of the senate, being introduced, returned HB 5, 

p~ 5; HB 568, p~ 1494, and HB 719, p~ 1705, with infomation 

that the Senate has passed the same without amendment. 




HB 5, PN 5 

An Act amending the "Uniform Acknowledgment Act." 

approved July 24, 1941 (P. L. 490, No. 188). providing for 

acknowledgments by an attorney at law. 

The SPEAKER. For what purpose does the gentleman I HB568,PN 1494 

from Centre, Mr. Cunningham, rise? 

An Act authorizing the Department of General Service, with 

Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, I just have noted that the approval of the Governor and the Secretary of Public 

I was erroneously recorded in the negative on the vote on SB Welfare, to sell and convev a certain lot or tract of land situate in 

168. 1 would like to be recorded in the affirmative. Thank I the City of Harrisburg, ~ennsylvania. 

you. ( HB 719, PN 1705 

The SPEAKER. The remarks of the - gentleman will be 

spread upon the record. I


An Act amending "The Fiscal Code," approved April 9, 1929 

(P. L. 343, No. 176), further providing for investment of funds 

by the Treasury Department and for the deposit of securities. 

ANNOUNCEMENT BY SPEAKER 

The SPEAKER. The Chair gives notice, particularly to the 

court reporters and the Legislative Reference Bureau, that 

supplemental calendar B carries the printer's number for SB 

168 incorrectly. The proper printer's number should be 1131. 

An Act authorizing the incurring of indebtedness with 

approval of the electors, of $300,000,000 for the repair, construction, 

reconstruction, rehabilitation. extension and improvement 

of communitv water suoolv .. . svstems. . and for the re~air, reconstruction 

or iehabilitation of flood control facilities, dams and 

oort facilities and nrovidinz - the allotment of ~roceeds from 

borrowing hereunder. 

SB 8, PN 

A, AC~ naming the pennsylvania ~~~t~ 462 bridge, between 

Columbia and Wrightsville, theveterans' Memorial Bridge. 

SB 153. PN 610 

RECESS I An Actamendina the act of June 1. 1945 (P. L. 1242, No. 428h 

~h~ SPEAKER, without the H~~~~ will be in entitled "State ~ighwa~ Law," providing for removal by the 

secretary of routes on the State highway system. 

recess for a period of 15 minutes. The Chair hears none. 

AFTER RECESS 


order. 

ANNOUNCEMENT BY MAJORITY LEADER I 


Mr. HAYES. Mr. Speaker, I believe there should be an 

announcement made. The Senate is still working on SB 425. It 

is not absolutely certain that they will pass the legislation as 

we did, and if they do not, that will require a committee of 

conference. We are growing very close to the end of this fiscal 

year, and we would not want to do anything precipitously and 

adjourn and leave for the day. We must remain in session 

until we know for certain what the Senate is going to do in SB 

425. It is my understanding that they are now in caucus. 






House of Representatives to SB 568, PN 1091, and SB 681, 

PN 1126. 


An Act amending the act of April 27, 1927 (P. L. 465, No. 

299), entitled, as amended, "Fire and Panic Act," further 

excluding certain farm buildings; further providing for ways of 

egress and providing for legislative review of certain rules and 

regulations. 

SB 633, PN 650 

An Act amending the act of December 22, 1%5 (P. L. 1124, 

No. 437), entitled "Dog Law of 1%5," providing penalties for 

mistreatment of or interference with police department dogs and 

exempting such dogs from quarantine. 

An Act making an appropriation from a restricted revenue 

account within the General Fund to the Public Utility Commis- 

sion. 

SB 719, PN 853 

UnTTQT: D1T T I Bradford, Mr. Madigan. 

.L"",,b " A b b 


An Act providing that a city of the first class shall sell bonds or 

other securities, except as provided herein, issued by it at public 

sale after not less than one public notice for such price, at, above 

or below their par value plus accrued interest, as shall be deter- 

mined by the authorities of the city and providing that such a city 

may sell bonds or other securities at private sale when no 

conforming bid has been received at a prior public sale; and 

providing that the provisions hereof shall apply to all borrowings 

and the issuance of bonds or other securities therefor, whenever 

authorized. 

COMMITTEE MEETING CANCELED 

The SPEAKER. The Chair reco~nizes the eentleman from 

Mr. MADIGAN. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 

The meeting of the Special Committee on Toxic Waste 

The clerk of the Senate, being introduced, returned HB scheduled for tomorrow morning at 9:30 will be canceled. 

1484, PN 1978, with information that the Senate has passed ~h~~~ will be no tomorrow at 9:30. We will 

. 

the same without amendment. reschedule it, hopefully, the week of July 13. 

BILLS SIGNED BY SPEAKER I ADDITIONS AND DELETION OF SPONSORS 



HB 1484, PN 1978 


Mr. HAYES. Mr. Speaker, I submit for the record in 

accordance with our rules the additions and deletions of spon- 

sors of bills. 

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ADDITIONS: 

HB 1056, Wiggins; HB 1407, Mrkonic; HB 1464, Gladeck; 

HB 1712, Reber. 

DELETION: 

HB 212, Petrarca. 

ANNOUNCEMENT BY MINORITY LEADER 



Mr. Speaker, I have been in communication with Senate 

leaders, and there is some indication of some problems which 

have arisen with SB 425. It may be necessary for us to be on 

the floor, and I am asking those Democrats who are presently 

here, and Republicans also, and those who are in their offices 

to remain available. We may not have solved the problems of 

this night's session yet. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 


RECESS 

The SPEAKER. Without objection, this House will stand 

in recess until 11:15 p.m. The Chair hears none. 

AFTER RECESS 


order. 

SENATE MESSAGE I 


BILL CONCURRED IN 



House of Representatives to SB 168, PN 1131. 



following bill, which was then signed: 

SB 168, PN 1131 

An Act amending the act of March 1949 (P, L, 30, No, 



HOUSE SCHEDULE 

The SPEAKER. The information I have received with 

respect to our schedule is that the Senate Democrats have 

gone into caucus to discuss the fee bill. The caucus was called 

for an indeterminate time, so I am unable to advise the House 

as to what time the Senate will return to the floor and act on 

SB 425. Under those circumstances, I suspect that we should 

rest easy as best we can until we have some information from 

the Senate. 

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SENATORS WELCOMED 

The SPEAKER. The Chair is pleased to acknowledge the 

1 presence in the hall of the House of the distinguished Senator 

from Allegheny County, Senator Zemprelli, and the distinguished 

minority Appropriations chairman from the Senate, 

Senator Lewis, both of whom are going over to the Senate to 

pass the hill that has kept us here so late. 

Mr. PETRONE. Mr. Speaker, I think it is only fair that 

another distinguished Senator be introduced who is here 

visiting with us, Senator Frank Pecora. Thank you, Mr. 

Speaker. 

The SPEAKER. The House is always delighted to have 

distinguished visitors from the other body visit with us. 

The House will be at ease. 

The House will come to order. 

It is the understanding of the Chair that the Senate has just 

passed SB 425 and will shortly be sending it over to the House 

for signature. If that is the case, I would expect there will be 

no further roll calls for this evening. I will await, however, the 

arrival of the minority leader and minority whip and have a 

further conference with the majority leader and minority 

leaders prior to recessing the House. It will be necessary for 

the Speaker to remain for the purpose of accepting and 

signing bills, however. 



BILL CONCURRED IN 



House of Representatives to SB 425, PN 1127. 



following bill, which was then signed: 

SB 425, PN 1127 

An Act amending the act of April 9, 1929 (P. L. 177, No. 175), 

entitled "The Administrative Code of 1929," providing for the 

fixine of fees chareed hv administrative anencies: further 

providing for public relations and budgets; further providing for 

the purchases of handicapped-made products and services, 

providing for the disposition and legislative review relating to 

Commonwealth surplus land and making repeals. 

The SPEAKER. At such time as we adjourn the House, the 

House will reconvene at 10 a.m. tomorrow morning. 

BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS PASSED OVER 

The SPEAKER. Without objection, all remaining bills and 

resolutions on today's calendar will be passed over. The Chair 

hears none. 

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WELCOMES I 

The SPEAKER. The Chair is pleased to welcome to the hall 

of the House today a former distinguished member from the 

county of Erie who served here with us during the 1965-70 

terms. Will the gentleman, Mr. Frank Polaski, please rise? 

The Chair is pleased to welcome to the hall of the House 

today Michael Sedor, Jill Sedor, and their children, Michael 

and Amy, who are guests of Representative Bruce Smith of 

Cumberland and York Counties. 

The Chair welcomes to the hall of the House today Mr. 

Whit Griffiths of Bedford Area Senior High School and Mr. 

Gary Ickes, pharmacist and former chairman of the Bedford 

County Republican Committee, who are guests of the 

member from Bedford, Mr. Clarence Dietz. 

The Chair is also pleased to welcome to the hall of the 

House Mr. and Mrs. James Simon and Mrs. George Jackson, 

wife of Representative Jackson, who are the guests of Repre- 

sentatives Jackson and Moehlmann. 


today a former member of the House from Butler County, 

Mr. Thomas Tiheri, here today as the guest of the delegation 

from western Pennsylvania. 


today Mr. Isador Kranzel, administrative law judge of the 

Public Utility Commission, here today as the guest of Repre- 

sentative Evans. 

The Chair welcomes the following guest who is in the 

balcony: Douglas Argall, the brother of David Argall of the 

research staff and the guest of Representative Klingaman of 

Schuylkill County. 


today, as the guests of Representative Morris of Chester 

County, Mrs. Alice McCaffrey and her niece, Liz Ann 

McCaffrey, and a friend, Timothy Murphy of San Francisco, 

California. 

The Chair is pleased to welcome to the hall of the House, as 

the guests of Representatives Cessar and Pott of Allegheny 

County, the mother of Senator Early, Mrs. Early; his aunt, 

Mrs. Sarver; and two members of Senator Early's staff, 

Lorraine Carr and Nancy Anderson. 

The Chair welcomes to the hall of the House today as the 

guest of the gentleman, Mr. Gladeck, Ms. Liz Anne Murray 

of Blue Bell, Pennsylvania. 

ADJOURNMENT I 


Allegheny, Mr. Itkin. 

Mr. ITKIN. Mr. Speaker, I move that this House do now 

adjourn until Wednesday, July 1, 1981, at 10a.m., e.d.t. 



Motion was agreed to, and at 12:38 a.m., e.d.t., July I, 

1981, the House adjourned.

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