1815 - 1817 Scroll Book - Nine Incorporated Trades of Dundee

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Gentleman whom the Council shall have previously elected, and that in consequence of that concession on the part of the Guildry the Toun Council would along with the Trades and Guildry present an application to the next convention of Burghs to restore to that respectable Incorporation the right of electing their dean the committee would strongly recommend to the general meeting of the Guildry to agree to the proposal. The objects which the Guildry Committee have in view in making this communication is as well to obtain justice to its constituents as to quiet any doubt or apprehension which the Toun Council might have about the legality of electing any other person to be dean than an old bailie. The Committee expects a favourable answer will be returned to this letter in as much as it would restore harmony to the Toun and render all proceedings at law unnecessary. In token of the unanimity of the committee on the subject the Committee subscribe themselves. Your most ob hum Ser. Dundee 1 Oct 1816 Present David Blair Jun, Thomas Ivory, John Sturrock, Thomas Watt, Thomas Smart, William Roberts, David Miln, John Peter. Mr Thomas Watt Preses At a general meeting of the Guildry is to be held tomorrow, and as on a former occasion the Incorporation has been excluded from their hall by the Magistrates, the Committee appointed Messers William Roberts and David Blair Junior a sub committee to wait immediately on Provost Riddoch to ascertain whether the Guildry are to have the use of their hall tomorrow. The Committee recommend to the sub Committee also to intimate to provost Riddoch that the expect that the Petitions from the Guildry and Trades which were laid before a meeting of the Toun Council on the 1 st of January last shall be taken into consideration on the first head Court and that the prayers of those Petitions should be either granted or the petitions returned to Mr Jobson and Mr Whittet the Gentlemen who presented them. Messers Roberts & Blair having returned, they reported that Provost Riddoch had informed them that the Toun Council had this day resolved not to admit the Guildry into the Guild hall tomorrow. The Committee directed the Clerk to obtain the use of the ancient operative lodge and to circulate handbills this afternoon to inform the members of the Guildry of the place of meeting. At a Meeting of the Guildry Incorporation of Dundee held on the second day of October Eighteen hundred and sixteen, within the Ancient Operative lodge; in consequence of the Magistrates and Toun council of Dundee having intimated their determination to prevent the Guildry from assembling in their own hall John Jobson Esq of Rosemount was called to the chair, in absence of Robert Jobson Esq who was elected Dean of Guild by this Incorporation at the last election. The Meeting were about to proceed to elect a Dean, Assessors, Collector and Clerk for the year ensuing when Mr Alexander Christie Writer in Dundee appeared with two witnesses and intimated that he held in his hand a bill of Suspension at the instance of the Magistrates and Toun Council of Dundee, on which the Lord Ordinary on the bills had in the meantime granted an interdict prohibiting and discharging the Guildry from electing a Dean of Guild, Assessors, Collector and Clerk. At the desire of the Meeting Mr Christie read the bill of Suspension and the Interlocutor off the Lord Ordinary. The Meeting thereupon unanimously adopted the following resolutions. 1. That the Meeting having heard read to them the interdict against their proceeding to the election of a dean, assessors, Collector and Clerk, are determined to do nothing which could 10
e construed into a contempt of the authority of the Supreme Court; and do therefore declare themselves to be a meeting of the individual members of the Guildry Incorporation. 2. That the proceedings of the Magistrates in applying for and obtaining this sist, after they had pledged themselves to restore the rights of the Guildry, render it more indispensable than ever that the members of the Guildry should meet and deliberate on the proper measures to be taken for obtaining a restoration of their privileges and opposing the incroachments of the Magistrates. 3. That the Meeting do not wish in face of the present interdict to interfere with the judicial or political duties of the dean of Guild elected by the Magistrates, but the are unanimously of opinion, that they have an undoubted right to constitute themselves into an assembly independent of that dean and for purposes unconnected with his functions. 4 th . That for this purpose the Meeting unanimously resolve to elect a chairman for the year ensuing to convene and preside at all General Meetings to be held by them as individual members of the Guildry Incorporation; and to assist him in obtaining a restoration of the privileges of the Guildry, and in conducting any prosecutions which the Guildry and Trade may think necessary to institute against the Magistrates & Council. William Roberts Esq Banker in Dundee then moved that Robert Jobson Esq be elected chairman of the Guildry meetings for the ensuing year. John Sturrock Merchant seconded the motion which was carried unanimously. The Meeting then unanimously elected the following Gentlemen to be a Committee for the purposes before mentioned: Mr David Jobson Mr William Roberts Mr John Croom Mr David Miln Mr John Sturrock Mr David Blair Junr Mr Thomas Mitchell Mr William Bisset Mr Henry Blyth Mr John Peter Mr Thomas Ivory Mr Henry Bell Mr William Ellet Mr Archibald Crichton Mr James Keiller Mr Thomas Watt Mr Andrew Garland Mr Thomas Neish Junr Mr John Watt Mr James Duncan Junr Mr James Scott Seven of whom constitute a quorum. The Meeting elected Mr William Ellet to be Treasurer and Mr James Saunders to be Clerk. David Blair Junior Esq moved the following resolutions: 1. That the Guildry and other burgesses of the Burgh of Dundee are by statute law, as well as by the practice of all well regulated burghs, entitled to attend the different head Courts held within the burgh of Dundee and to inspect the accounts of charge and discharge of the revenue of the burgh for the year preceding previous to those accounts being transmitted to the Exchequer. 11
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