1815 - 1817 Scroll Book - Nine Incorporated Trades of Dundee

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Captain Blair seconded the motion and the Resolutions were unanimously passed with this recommendation from the meeting that the Committee to be appointed should use every proper means to induce the Magistrates and Council to recall the resolutions of the twentieth Current and to go hand in hand with the Guildry in order to regain for that Incorporation their suspended rights and privileges, but that any negotiation with the Magistrates and Council for that purpose should not be allowed to retard the legal proceedings mentioned in this resolution. The Meeting unanimously appointed the following members to be a Committee for the purposes mentioned in the resolutions vizt: Robert Jobson Esq., William Roberts Esq., David Blair Junior Esq., David Miln Esq., William Lindsay Esq., John Sturrock Esq, John Peter Esq. And Wm Ellett & Mr Cathro. The Meeting unanimously appointed William Ellet Esq., to be Treasurer of the Subscription fund. The meeting further recommended to the Committee that they should not institute the action at Law until the opinions of eminent Counsel shall be obtained on Memorials stating the facts of the case. Dundee 2d April 1816 Present William Roberts, John Sturrock, David Blair Jun., David Miln, William Ellet, John Peter Mr Roberts Preses Mr Miln moved that Mr Saunders should lay his accounts before the Committee at next meeting. Mr Blair seconded the motion which was carried unanimously. The Committee requested the preses to transmit to the Convener and deacons of the nine Trades, the deacons of the three united Trades and to the deacon of the maltmen Copies of the Resolutions of the last general meeting of the Guildry and to request them to procure contributions from their respective bodies; also to request the Convener of the Nine Trades to get a few members of the Trades elected to Act along with the Committee of the Guildry in conducting the prosecution for malversation against the Magistrates. The Committee ordered the resolutions of the last general meeting to be published in the Dundee Advertiser. The Committee agreed that Mr Roberts and Mr Jobson shall accompany Mr Ellet to get collections on Wednesday first. Mt Blair and Mr Sturrock on Thursday and Mr Miln and Mr Peter on Saturday. The Committee agreed that the Maltmen should be requested to send one Member to act with the Committee in the process against the Magistrates. To Convener Whittet Dundee 3d April 1810 Sir I am desired to acknowledge receipt of your Letter of the 16 th November last. The Trades and he Guildry have only one object in view, namely to obtain such an opening in the sett of this Burgh as may lead to a more honourable management of the Public revenue of the Toun. Much has already been done by the exertions of the Trades and the Guildry, but there can be no security that the Toun Council will persevere in abolishing existing abuses or that they will not resort to the old mode of management unless the sett of the Burgh be opened. The Guildry were willing to believe that the Toun Council were sincere in their promise to restore the privileges of the Guildry. This would have been one important step in the opening of the Burgh and if a farther opening had afterwards been necessary the Toun Council might have been induced as they became more liberal in their notions to grant any farther reasonable request from the Trades or Guildry. This was the reason why the Guildry Committee delayed for a time answering your letter which proposed immediate prosecution. 6
The Toun Council having unequivocally revoked these promises and shut the door against all change in the present system there is no alternative but to seek redress in the Courts of Law and Parliament. The preceding resolutions will explain to you the determination of the Guildry on that subject. The Guildry Committee hope that the Nine Trades will appoint a Committee to act along with them in the prosecution agt the Toun council for malversation &c. Copy of a Letter sent to the nine Deacons with Copy Resolutions of Guildry Incorporation Sir Dundee 6 April 1816 Referring to a Letter which I have this day addressed to the Convener of the Nine Trades and which he will communicate to you I beg leave to send a Copy of the Resolutions of the Guildry and to request the aid of the (blank) Trade in defraying the expence of prosecuting the Toun Council for malversation. Dundee 14 May 1816 Present Robert Jobson, William Roberts, David Blair Jun, John Peter, John Sturrock. Mr Jobson Preses There was laid before the meeting a letter from the Convener of the Committee of the Trades as follows: Dundee 14 th May 1816 Sir I am directed by the Committee of the nine Trades to transmit to you the following minute of their Meeting last night. The Committee met on ye 13 th May and after considering the Guildrys resolutions appointed a sub Committee to meet with the sub committee of the Guildry to communicate from time to time with the Committee and to take on decisive steps without consulting the general Committee. The sub Committee consist of: Convener Whittet Convener Mitchell Deacon Ivory Deacon Thomson & Robert Mudie (Signed) John Whittet Jun. Will you lay this minute before the Guildry at their first meeting? The Committee directed the Clerk to intimate to the Trades Committee that they will meet them on Monday night the 20 Current at 7 o’clock in the ante room of the exchange Coffee room. As the Committee were directed by the general meeting of the Guildry to commune with the Magistrates before raising the action for recovery of the rights of the Guildry they directed the preses to transmit to the Provost the following Letter: Dundee 14 th May 1816 Before the Guildry Committee commence legal proceedings to regain the suspended rights of that Incorporation they direct me to request that you will call a meeting of the Toun Council to reconsider the claims of the Guildry that the Magistrates may have an opportunity of rescinding their resolutions of the 20 th March last and returning to the more just and honourable resolutions of the 9 th August preceding. It is needless to say that the Toun Council in conceding to the Guildry their rights would consult both the peace and prosperity of the Toun. If any answer is to be returned to this Letter I shall expect to receive it between and the 21 st Current. Dundee 20 May 1816 Present 7
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Mr David Blair Jr thereupon moved t
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