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22 BuxoFnce<br />

Cover<br />

"SPHERE" OF INFLUENCE<br />

Having a Ball With Dustin Hoffman<br />

in a meeting—but he'd like you to go in," Dustin Hoffman's<br />

He's<br />

assistant infomis BOXOFFICE with a slightiy puzzled tone in<br />

her voice. Sure, it's not the normal etiquette, but Hoffman soon<br />

makes it evident he's not one to stand on formalities. We're at Hoffman's<br />

Brentwood, Calif.-based Punch Productions offices, named for the<br />

famed oft-battered puppet. ("I always thought that I was like Punch,"<br />

explains Hoffman. "I've got a big nose, bad posture. Got whacked<br />

around when I was in school.")<br />

"Are you comfy-wumfy?" Hoffman queries as BOXOFFICE settles<br />

onto a couch. It's becoming more and more apparent that this isn't going<br />

to be your typical celebrity interview. Actor Adrien Brody, the person<br />

whose meeting is being interloped, is introduced.<br />

"Now he 's who you should be interviewing,"<br />

says Hoffman. As it turns out.<br />

that is exactiy what happens, as the young<br />

star of the upcoming Terrence Malickhelmed<br />

"The Thin Red Line" is invited to<br />

stay and take part in the proceedings.<br />

The intended topic at hand is the Hoffman<br />

starrer "Sphere," Warner's sci-fi<br />

thriller based on Michael Crichton's novel<br />

about a team of scientists investigating a<br />

spacecraft that's been submerged underwater<br />

for hundreds of years. Keeping on<br />

this subject, however, turns out to be nearly<br />

impossible. Hoffman's mile-a-minutc<br />

mind juggles multitudinous subjects, philosophies,<br />

book recommendations, and<br />

even hangover remedies with Tesla-caliber<br />

simultaneity, while BOXOFnCE and<br />

Brody race to keep up. ("I have to take<br />

notes!" Brody cries at one point.) We leam<br />

of Hoffman's past employment as a psychiatric<br />

hospital attendant (his job was to<br />

hold people down while they received<br />

shock treatment); we hear tell of his children and their exploits in acting,<br />

writing, music and painting; we're enlightened with scientific and<br />

esoteric musings; we're paternally admonished for not having read this<br />

book or seen that movie; and we're told a few unforgettably twisted<br />

jokes, all frequently punctuated with that quick, quirky Hoffman smile.<br />

An actor with one of the most renowned and diverse character<br />

repertoires in film history, Hoffman seems to be a culmination of his<br />

character studies, demonstrating a passion for analysis, an unquenchable<br />

thirst for knowledge and a mentor-like desire to share his knowledge<br />

with others. This unique interview scenario affords the opportunity to view<br />

the two-ti me Oscar winner in one ofhis most astounding roles—him.self<br />

The conversation begins before the tape recorder's even rolling.<br />

Hoffman is recoiling as he is offered a copy of BOXOFFICE's "Mad<br />

City" article. Before a single question can be asked, Hoffman's olTand<br />

running on the subject of the business side of filmmaking.<br />

HOFFMAN: It's alarming. It's not the first movie that didn't do well.<br />

But it's alarming because when I was his age | indicating Brody], it was<br />

a different business. Less of a business. Adricn's 24. So when I was 24,<br />

that was '61<br />

.<br />

I'm (i). In 1%I, there was no such thing as Number 1, 2, 3 at<br />

by Christine James<br />

the boxoffice. The public knows it now. [Before it was] never in the<br />

papers, what the grosses were. Only studio heads talked about those<br />

things. It was the inside. There's no inside anymore. ["Sphere" director<br />

Barry Levinson said], "When my mother in Boca Raton, Florida knows<br />

what something grossed, there's no inside." So if it's 1, 2, 3, and you<br />

don't make 1 , 2, 3, you don't make 4, you don't make 5. It's the first<br />

weekend. That didn't exist. That never existed before. If you don't open<br />

the first weekend, you're gone.<br />

BRODY: The problem for me is [choosing caieer-making roles or<br />

interesting roles].<br />

HOFTMAN: Here's the mb. Now you have a stronger puU than you<br />

had when I was your age. Now it's deciding<br />

between a career and a life of your work.<br />

BOXOFnCE: Yet you made some very<br />

interesting choices that would not necessarily<br />

have been career-makers, but<br />

that's what they turned out to be. For<br />

example, who would have thought a film<br />

like "Midnight Cowboy" would become<br />

such a success?<br />

HOFFMAN: People called me up, including<br />

['The Graduate" director] Mike<br />

Nichols, and .said "You're crazy. He's not<br />

an attractive guy, and it's a supporting role.<br />

You can't do it." You have to go after what<br />

brought you into it to begin with.<br />

BOXOFHCE: Is that what you're<br />

doing with your production company?<br />

HOFFMAN: One of the reasons I want<br />

10 produce now is, as 1 get older now and I<br />

see material, I say "Oop, too old to play that.<br />

Oop, can't do that." So, it hurts to realize<br />

that as you get older it becomes narrow. I<br />

could play older, I could play younger Now<br />

I can only play older! [laughs] I can't play<br />

younger. The parts narrow. Having a company that produces material<br />

you can no longer act in because you're too old is saying, "Don't tell<br />

me 1 can't do this movie!" [laughs] That's the philosophy, [laughs]<br />

BOXOFFICE: Though you of all people should know the powers<br />

of prosthetic makeup. I remember a quote of yours about how you<br />

wanted your tombstone to read...<br />

HOFFMAN: "1 knew this was going to happen."<br />

BRODY: That's good! Lighten the mood every time someone<br />

comes to visit.<br />

HOFFMAN: He knows. His re.spon.se is an actor's response. Because<br />

that's what we're put here for. To give you a kick.<br />

BRODY: Still invoke a reaction, even when you die. You want the<br />

right reaction. "Let's not visit Mom, let's visit Dustin!"<br />

BOXOFFICE: In "Sphere," you play a psychologist. Was it your<br />

predilection for examining people's minds and motivations that<br />

drew you to the project?<br />

HOFFMAN: No, not initially. Barry Levinson is the one director<br />

that I've done the most movies with. I've done four movies with him<br />

("Rain Man," "Sleepers," "Wag the Dog" and "Sphere"]. If he's directing,<br />

I<br />

automatically say "Is there a part for me?" Arthur Miller once

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