Herms William Interview 9 24 12 - California Resources Agency

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1 MR. PATTON: So you say, as part of 2 the executive team, you were there at biweekly 3 meetings -- 4 MR. HERMS: Um-hum. 5 MR. PATTON: -- where budget matters 6 are discussed. Tell me about those 7 discussions. 8 MR. HERMS: Well, the discussions, 9 especially as the Schwarzenegger 10 administration began signaling that they were 11 going to reduce our budget and then ultimately 12 when the Brown administration did reduce our 13 budget by twenty-two million, was how do we 14 deal with that, what are the impacts going to 15 be on the department. 16 There was a great deal of concern 17 about how the department would adjust in order 18 to be able to come up with twenty-two million 19 dollars in savings. And at no time do I 20 recall anybody being concerned that we were 21 going to have a surplus. The genuine honest 22 concern of everybody at the table was we've 23 got an ongoing reduction of twenty-two 24 million, and that's twenty-two million every 25 single year. There were -- Sarnoff, A VERITEXT COMPANY 877-955-3855 Page 12
1 MR. PATTON: Not cumulative -- not 2 an additional twenty-two more million -- 3 MR. HERMS: No. 4 MR. PATTON: -- cut the next year 5 we're going to have to live with twenty-two 6 million less each year -- 7 MR. HERMS: Right. 8 MR. PATTON: -- here on out. 9 MR. HERMS: Which means that the 10 department was going to have to reduce its 11 expenditures -- its annual expenditures by 12 twenty-two million and make them go away and 13 they can never come back. 14 MR. PATTON: Do you know how much 15 the Parks Department budget is total? 16 MR. HERMS: I was the leg guy, not 17 the budget guy, but it -- I'm guessing, I'm 18 guessing. It seems to me SPRF was somewhere 19 around ninety-something million or a hundred 20 million. Our General Fund came down to about 21 a hundred million, maybe a little under that. 22 Then we had some other funds that -- we'd get 23 some fed funds. That was the unusual thing 24 about State Parks is we had so many different 25 funding sources -- Sarnoff, A VERITEXT COMPANY 877-955-3855 Page 13
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