Herms William Interview 9 24 12 - California Resources Agency
Herms William Interview 9 24 12 - California Resources Agency
Herms William Interview 9 24 12 - California Resources Agency
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1 MR. PATTON: And what was the<br />
2 substance of that conversation?<br />
3 MR. HERMS: Well, a lot of it was<br />
4 about the job that I have because I have --<br />
5 I'm in a unique situation, so we talked about<br />
6 that. We talked about her job hunting because<br />
7 she's looking for jobs. We clearly sort of<br />
8 stated up front that we weren't going to talk<br />
9 about this because we knew we weren't supposed<br />
10 to. So we didn't talk about anything specific<br />
11 to this.<br />
<strong>12</strong> MR. PATTON: So she never said to<br />
13 you anything about whether this was all news<br />
14 to her or --<br />
15 MR. HERMS: Well, that -- I'm trying<br />
16 to think of the early days, you know, when<br />
17 this was all breaking.<br />
18 MR. PATTON: Um-hum.<br />
19 MR. HERMS: In the early days when<br />
20 this was all breaking, I don't -- I can't<br />
21 recall a specific conversation, but in general<br />
22 I believe that I had a conversation with Ruth<br />
23 where we both said this was utterly news to<br />
<strong>24</strong> us, that neither one of us had any idea that<br />
25 there was this twenty million dollar<br />
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