Herms William Interview 9 24 12 - California Resources Agency

1 trying to talk to you about the long list of
2 sort of uncertainties and the things that were
3 in front of us, it's quite possible that in
4 the context of a larger budget discussion that
5 this could have been brought up, but similarly
6 not recognized as a surplus because the
7 liability side seems so large that it would
8 not have shown up as a surplus. It's
9 certainly possible. All I know is that at no
10 time in any meeting did I ever come to hear
11 anything portrayed as, we got twenty million
12 dollar of unallocated money sitting here that
13 we can use any way that we want.
14 MR. PATTON: Okay.
15 MR. HERMS: At no time do I recall
16 ever hearing that.
17 MR. PATTON: Okay. With regard to
18 the OHV fund, had you ever heard -- had there
19 ever been, tell me -- and we started on --
20 early on and you talked about this a little
21 bit, and then I said I'd show you the
22 spreadsheets and we might try to identify what
23 was going on in a few years. We have a
24 Finance Department spreadsheet. The top
25 section is a SPRF account, and you'll probably
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