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1 issues that would come from that person. 2 MR. PATTON: Okay. So you must 3 have some background, I guess, prior to 4 diagnosis -- 5 MR. HERMS: Prior to working at 6 State Parks -- 7 MR. PATTON: Yeah. 8 MR. HERMS: -- I was the Chief of 9 Staff to a member in the building. I was also 10 a chief consultant to a policy committee. I 11 was also a chief consultant to an oversight 12 committee of the Joint Legislative Audit 13 Committee. 14 MR. PATTON: Do you mind telling me 15 which those were? You were Chief of Staff 16 previously to who? 17 MR. HERMS: Chief of Staff to 18 Assembly Member Parra, and I was chief 19 consultant to the Veterans Committee, which 20 was Assembly Member Dick Dickerson, and then 21 when I was chief consultant to the Joint 22 Legislative Audit Committee, that was also Ms. 23 Parra. 24 MR. PATTON: Joint Legislative Audit 25 Committee. That sounds -- so you've got -- Sarnoff, A VERITEXT COMPANY 877-955-3855 Page 4
1 how long were you consultant to them? 2 MR. HERMS: About a year, maybe a 3 little more. 4 MR. PATTON: Okay. 5 MR. HERMS: And I went from JLAC to 6 State Parks. 7 MR. PATTON: That just got my 8 attention because obviously audits are going 9 on now. 10 MR. HERMS: Obviously. 11 MR. PATTON: Obviously. All right. 12 So tell us -- you know, we'll just get 13 straight to the point. You've seen the news 14 reports. 15 MR. HERMS: I have. 16 MR. PATTON: And you may or may not 17 have seen some of the financial spreadsheets 18 at this point, the talk about a disparity in 19 fund reporting in the State Parks and 20 Recreation Fund. 21 MR. HERMS: Since I left before this 22 became an issue, I haven't seen any data or 23 spreadsheets at all. 24 MR. PATTON: Okay. 25 MR. HERMS: Really the only thing I Sarnoff, A VERITEXT COMPANY 877-955-3855 Page 5
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